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Start here => What's your crime? Basic Discussion => Topic started by: The_P on July 22, 2007, 11:12:14 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnylM1hI2jc
I like to know what you guys think of this short movie. Do you find it inspiring, or do simply find it to be a complete waste of time?
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i find it utterly amazing that anubend expresses herself so differently online and in real life. i have mixed feelings about it, relating to how people meeting her make assumptions about her intellectual abilities, given her "outward appreance", compared to the incredibly intelligent, articulate and thoughtful person i've seen online. it's almost scary, to me.
i think there's something very pure about her physical expression, but the communication aspects of it really freak me out - how frustrated must she be? of course, this could be pure projection on my part.
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What a brilliant P.R. victory to autism speaks, im sure they will use clips in their next video...
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i wasn't talking about PR, i was talking about a person's life.
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i wasn't talking about PR, i was talking about a person's life.
True, thats why i didnt quote you. This Ms Baggs really should have thought before she put out a video out like that, what a great way to persude NT's to do the opposite thing to what she wants them to do...
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You gotta love ED and their "hilarious" website: http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Amanda_Baggs
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You gotta love ED and their "hilarious" website: http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Amanda_Baggs
Shall we edit the article and add to it?
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You gotta love ED and their "hilarious" website: http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Amanda_Baggs
Shall we edit the article and add to it?
What, exactly, are you going to add? Just so you know that I agree with A.B. What I don't like are people who are misinterpreting what her actual intentions are concerning those two video links I've recently posted here.
And why do people make these assumptions that she has inherited "one of the purest communications from God"? Religious fuckwits... She is not glorifying her real-life behaviour.
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You gotta love ED and their "hilarious" website: http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Amanda_Baggs
Shall we edit the article and add to it?
What, exactly, are you going to add? Just so you know that I agree with A.B. What I don't like are people who are misinterpreting what her actual intentions are concerning those two video links I've recently posted here.
And why do people make these assumptions that she has inherited "one of the purest communications from God"? Religious fuckwits... She is not glorifying her real-life behaviour.
I dont give a rats arse what her intentions are, look at what she has done. Do you want every NT to think that we are bouncing idiots! I assume not. Why does she feel the need to make these idiotic videos that do nothing to further our cause, in fact they send it sky rocketing backwords.
As for editing the article, when i sober up i may have some fun with it, i should have some ideas by the morning...
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If that is what you think, then I have nothing more to add.
Do what you will.
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If that is what you think, then I have nothing more to add.
Do what you will.
Fair enough, i will do so unless you give me a reasoned arguement otherwise, i am young and still have a vaguely open mind..
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What's the point when you have recently stated that you don't give a fuck as to what her intentions were when making the vids?
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What's the point when you have recently stated that you don't give a fuck as to what her intentions were when making the vids?
The point is i look at peoples actions, not there supposed intentions behind them. If you can persuade me that her actions are helpful to the cause then I will do nothing, i promise. On the other hand, if you cant...
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You gotta love ED and their "hilarious" website: http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Amanda_Baggs
Shall we edit the article and add to it?
What, exactly, are you going to add? Just so you know that I agree with A.B. What I don't like are people who are misinterpreting what her actual intentions are concerning those two video links I've recently posted here.
And why do people make these assumptions that she has inherited "one of the purest communications from God"? Religious fuckwits... She is not glorifying her real-life behaviour.
I dont give a rats arse what her intentions are, look at what she has done. Do you want every NT to think that we are bouncing idiots! I assume not. Why does she feel the need to make these idiotic videos that do nothing to further our cause, in fact they send it sky rocketing backwords.
As for editing the article, when i sober up i may have some fun with it, i should have some ideas by the morning...
you supercilious little cunt. you have absolutely no idea about that woman's life - it's nothing to you but something to "have fun with".
no-one has to justify anything to you, and especially not when every time you open your pathetic mouth, all you can do is make yourself look more like what you are - someone who's been educated beyond their intelligence.
do youself a favour and fuck off until you've learned some basic manners, apart from anything else.
:minus:
edit: in fact, i'll go so far as to say, have a mirror, and may it all come back on you threefold. you are disgusting.
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You gotta love ED and their "hilarious" website: http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Amanda_Baggs
Shall we edit the article and add to it?
What, exactly, are you going to add? Just so you know that I agree with A.B. What I don't like are people who are misinterpreting what her actual intentions are concerning those two video links I've recently posted here.
And why do people make these assumptions that she has inherited "one of the purest communications from God"? Religious fuckwits... She is not glorifying her real-life behaviour.
I dont give a rats arse what her intentions are, look at what she has done. Do you want every NT to think that we are bouncing idiots! I assume not. Why does she feel the need to make these idiotic videos that do nothing to further our cause, in fact they send it sky rocketing backwords.
As for editing the article, when i sober up i may have some fun with it, i should have some ideas by the morning...
you supercilious little cunt. you have absolutely no idea about that woman's life - it's nothing to you but something to "have fun with".
no-one has to justify anything to you, and especially not when every time you open your pathetic mouth, all you can do is make yourself look more like what you are - someone who's been educated beyond their intelligence.
do youself a favour and fuck off until you've learned some basic manners, apart from anything else.
:minus:
edit: in fact, i'll go so far as to say, have a mirror, and may it all come back on you threefold. you are disgusting.
I am disgusting am i Lucifer, takes one to know one...
I have an idea about her life, the fact is unless she wants to be in the next video of Autism Speaks, she should gain a knowledge of PR. As we happen to share the same brand, i think she needs to be wiser with it. Think how the NT's are going to look at it, for christs sake. She has just provided them with a perfect oppotunity. You do understand PR Lucifer, she has just totally humilated herself, and us! As for me being educated beyond my intelligence, prove it. Why are you getting so offended by me being rational Lucifer.
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for someone who claims so much knowledge about everything, you are almost as oblivious as flo.
ordinarily, i'd try to facilitate your understanding of where you're going wrong, and offer support for you to sort things out and make things easier for you - it's my job, after all. because i'm so disgusted, i'd prefer to sit back and watch with joyful Schadenfreude, as you fuck up your life because you won't listen to anything but your own, over-inflated sense of self importance.
in fact, i'd go even further - you're not even worth my attention.
end of discussion.
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I don't feel offended nor disgusted by this "lesser individual" for her actions because she was making a strong statement as to what is regarded as intelligence, personhood, language, and communication, and what does not. And just because people are cognitively disabled, why should we deny their own humanity?
That's my interpretation of the film. Take it what you will.
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for someone who claims so much knowledge about everything, you are almost as oblivious as flo.
ordinarily, i'd try to facilitate your understanding of where you're going wrong, and offer support for you to sort things out and make things easier for you - it's my job, after all. because i'm so disgusted, i'd prefer to sit back and watch with joyful Schadenfreude, as you fuck up your life because you won't listen to anything but your own, over-inflated sense of self importance.
in fact, i'd go even further - you're not even worth my attention.
end of discussion.
Lucifer, I have a knowledge of politics and PR beyond yours. Go and showcase her video to a bunch of NT's and see what they think. If that video gets widely spread it becomes a problem, regardless of intentions. As for me being overinflated, i do listen to people, but in this case just accept it is seriously bad PR she has just released, and i am not entralled by her "representing us". Ideally she could stim all she likes all day long, but we live in reality unfortuantly and she cant, at least publically, without making all of us look fools.
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I don't feel offended nor disgusted by this "lesser individual" for her actions because she was making a strong statement as to what is regarded as intelligence, personhood, language, and communication, and what does not. And just because people are cognitively disabled, why should we deny their own humanity?
That's my interpretation of the film. Take it what you will.
I am not saying deny her of her humanity. I am saying she keeps her videos to her self. What I think is irrelevent in PR terms, its what NT's think unfortuantly.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnylM1hI2jc
I like to know what you guys think of this short movie. Do you find it inspiring, or do simply find it to be a complete waste of time?
I like the one with captions much better.
Hadron, if you think that Amanda Baggs is not a fit spokesmodel for our autistic community, then why don't you make your own video and put it out there like she has?
You can't, can you?
I think Amanda's video is a way for people to shed some of their stereotypes about others.
I think that it was incredibly brave of her to put herself out there like she has done and I have a great deal of respect for her.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnylM1hI2jc
I like to know what you guys think of this short movie. Do you find it inspiring, or do simply find it to be a complete waste of time?
I like the one with captions much better.
Hadron, if you think that Amanda Baggs is not a fit spokesmodel for our autistic community, then why don't you make your own video and put it out there like she has?
You can't, can you?
I think Amanda's video is a way for people to shed some of their stereotypes about others.
I think that it was incredibly brave of her to put herself out there like she has done and I have a great deal of respect for her.
On the spokesperson thing, I have the downside of being way to young, personally I think the spokesperson thing should be left to an Aspie who has succeeded in NT world.
The thing is I have time on my side, it isnt something I need to do immediately, and asides I have better plans than being a spokesperson.
As for her video it was a backward step, if that went out on national television all of us would have problems for months if we tried to explain autism. Do I need to revive Dr_Quark to prove it to you and show what NT's would think about it! Most of us do not roll around and stim all day, thank you very much, some of us actually try to achieve something believe it or not.
Yes she is brave for what she did, but it doesnt change what she did being rank stupidity at best. I have been on national television myself a time ago for my own merits, and yes I do know it can be an experience.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnylM1hI2jc
I like to know what you guys think of this short movie. Do you find it inspiring, or do simply find it to be a complete waste of time?
I like the one with captions much better.
Hadron, if you think that Amanda Baggs is not a fit spokesmodel for our autistic community, then why don't you make your own video and put it out there like she has?
You can't, can you?
I think Amanda's video is a way for people to shed some of their stereotypes about others.
I think that it was incredibly brave of her to put herself out there like she has done and I have a great deal of respect for her.
On the spokesperson thing, I have the downside of being way to young, personally I think the spokesperson thing should be left to an Aspie who has succeeded in NT world.
The thing is I have time on my side, it isnt something I need to do immediately, and asides I have better plans than being a spokesperson.
As for her video it was a backward step, if that went out on national television all of us would have problems for months if we tried to explain autism. Do I need to revive Dr_Quark to prove it to you and show what NT's would think about it! Most of us do not roll around and stim all day, thank you very much, some of us actually try to achieve something believe it or not.
Yes she is brave for what she did, but it doesnt change what she did being rank stupidity at best. I have been on national television myself a time ago for my own merits, and yes I do know it can be an experience.
That video not only made it to national TV, but she was also interviewed by CNN. --What problem is there? She is quite profoundly affected by Autism, yet she is one of the most articulate individuals I have seen. --I like reading her posts quite a bit.
So considering the fact that she is profoundly affected by autism, and we are less affected by it does that make her any less able of a spokesperson or are you playing the proverbial elitism card in favoring those who are less affected, and more 'normal' in behaviour as well as appearance?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnylM1hI2jc
I like to know what you guys think of this short movie. Do you find it inspiring, or do simply find it to be a complete waste of time?
I like the one with captions much better.
Hadron, if you think that Amanda Baggs is not a fit spokesmodel for our autistic community, then why don't you make your own video and put it out there like she has?
You can't, can you?
I think Amanda's video is a way for people to shed some of their stereotypes about others.
I think that it was incredibly brave of her to put herself out there like she has done and I have a great deal of respect for her.
On the spokesperson thing, I have the downside of being way to young, personally I think the spokesperson thing should be left to an Aspie who has succeeded in NT world.
The thing is I have time on my side, it isnt something I need to do immediately, and asides I have better plans than being a spokesperson.
As for her video it was a backward step, if that went out on national television all of us would have problems for months if we tried to explain autism. Do I need to revive Dr_Quark to prove it to you and show what NT's would think about it! Most of us do not roll around and stim all day, thank you very much, some of us actually try to achieve something believe it or not.
Yes she is brave for what she did, but it doesnt change what she did being rank stupidity at best. I have been on national television myself a time ago for my own merits, and yes I do know it can be an experience.
That video not only made it to national TV, but she was also interviewed by CNN. --What problem is there? She is quite profoundly affected by Autism, yet she is one of the most articulate individuals I have seen. --I like reading her posts quite a bit.
So considering the fact that she is profoundly affected by autism, and we are less affected by it does that make her any less able of a spokesperson or are you playing the proverbial elitism card in favoring those who are less affected, and more 'normal' in behaviour as well as appearance?
It depends what you mean by national TV, and who and how many people saw it. Put it like this, when you try to explain autism to someone, if they have that in their head then people are just going to assume you are bullshitting if you appear to be vaguely normal. Considering she wants to beat Autism Speaks in a PR war she has just handed them their first victory. What matters is how NT's see it, not how we see it, and from an NT perspective, what do you think they will think of her, and by extension us. There is a very simple way to test it, believe it or not, all I have to do is post it on a foruma and see the reaction...
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On the spokesperson thing, I have the downside of being way to young, personally I think the spokesperson thing should be left to an Aspie who has succeeded in NT world.
The thing is I have time on my side, it isnt something I need to do immediately, and asides I have better plans than being a spokesperson.
As for her video it was a backward step, if that went out on national television all of us would have problems for months if we tried to explain autism. Do I need to revive Dr_Quark to prove it to you and show what NT's would think about it! Most of us do not roll around and stim all day, thank you very much, some of us actually try to achieve something believe it or not.
Yes she is brave for what she did, but it doesnt change what she did being rank stupidity at best. I have been on national television myself a time ago for my own merits, and yes I do know it can be an experience.
That video not only made it to national TV, but she was also interviewed by CNN. --What problem is there? She is quite profoundly affected by Autism, yet she is one of the most articulate individuals I have seen. --I like reading her posts quite a bit.
So considering the fact that she is profoundly affected by autism, and we are less affected by it does that make her any less able of a spokesperson or are you playing the proverbial elitism card in favoring those who are less affected, and more 'normal' in behaviour as well as appearance?
It depends what you mean by national TV, and who and how many people saw it. Put it like this, when you try to explain autism to someone, if they have that in their head then people are just going to assume you are bullshitting if you appear to be vaguely normal. Considering she wants to beat Autism Speaks in a PR war she has just handed them their first victory. What matters is how NT's see it, not how we see it, and from an NT perspective, what do you think they will think of her, and by extension us. There is a very simple way to test it, believe it or not, all I have to do is post it on a foruma and see the reaction...
This one also appeared on National TV. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6laOv94VUU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6laOv94VUU)
Aside from the fact that he is a Nobel Laureate in Economics, and I'm more or less a generic loser, his interactions with other people, as well as the insights into his personality are quite similar to myself, as well as what other people say of me.
This one appeared on National TV in Ireland : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAfWfsop1e0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAfWfsop1e0)
Personally, I need nobody as a spokesperson for myself, and find it quite bewildering why somebody would look for a spokesperson.
How exactly is it that she handed Autism Speaks their first victory??? In spite of the fact that she niether looks or acts 'normal' , she has been more than able to make her opinion known and accessible via that video. She has certainly made me quite aware of the fact that even though she is quite outwardly 'differant' she is fully cognizant of her surroundings, and is able to communicate effectively, and make her opinions known. -- How does that play into the hands of organisations like Autism Speaks, as well as CAN???
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On the spokesperson thing, I have the downside of being way to young, personally I think the spokesperson thing should be left to an Aspie who has succeeded in NT world.
The thing is I have time on my side, it isnt something I need to do immediately, and asides I have better plans than being a spokesperson.
As for her video it was a backward step, if that went out on national television all of us would have problems for months if we tried to explain autism. Do I need to revive Dr_Quark to prove it to you and show what NT's would think about it! Most of us do not roll around and stim all day, thank you very much, some of us actually try to achieve something believe it or not.
Yes she is brave for what she did, but it doesnt change what she did being rank stupidity at best. I have been on national television myself a time ago for my own merits, and yes I do know it can be an experience.
That video not only made it to national TV, but she was also interviewed by CNN. --What problem is there? She is quite profoundly affected by Autism, yet she is one of the most articulate individuals I have seen. --I like reading her posts quite a bit.
So considering the fact that she is profoundly affected by autism, and we are less affected by it does that make her any less able of a spokesperson or are you playing the proverbial elitism card in favoring those who are less affected, and more 'normal' in behaviour as well as appearance?
It depends what you mean by national TV, and who and how many people saw it. Put it like this, when you try to explain autism to someone, if they have that in their head then people are just going to assume you are bullshitting if you appear to be vaguely normal. Considering she wants to beat Autism Speaks in a PR war she has just handed them their first victory. What matters is how NT's see it, not how we see it, and from an NT perspective, what do you think they will think of her, and by extension us. There is a very simple way to test it, believe it or not, all I have to do is post it on a foruma and see the reaction...
This one also appeared on National TV. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6laOv94VUU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6laOv94VUU)
Aside from the fact that he is a Nobel Laureate in Economics, and I'm more or less a generic loser, his interactions with other people, as well as the insights into his personality are quite similar to myself, as well as what other people say of me.
This one appeared on National TV in Ireland : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAfWfsop1e0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAfWfsop1e0)
Personally, I need nobody as a spokesperson for myself, and find it quite bewildering why somebody would look for a spokesperson.
Ill look at the videos in the morning, its very late for me. As for a spokesperson, no i dont need one, but we do need to represent our own intrests in a NT society. It is all about getting the maximum out of the NT social system, which currently we are being more like shat on from...
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I have always found abuned a fascinating person, ever since i first joined WP.
Regarding this debate, I think that what the public need to know is that there is wide variety. People like abuned exist, and so do the social aspies, and everyone in between.
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excellent point, mutate. and they also need to know that outward manifestation is not necessarily the be all and end all of communication skills, and does not preclude a sharp and intelligent, even intellectually advanced, mind.
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otherwise why does stephen hawking get the respect he does?
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bang on, bruv. :-*
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for someone who claims so much knowledge about everything, you are almost as oblivious as flo.
That's because he's suffering from his student-complex.
"Oh, I'm a university student, and I know everything."
This country is in good hands when you fuckers jumped off that bridge.
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I have always found abuned a fascinating person, ever since i first joined WP.
Regarding this debate, I think that what the public need to know is that there is wide variety. People like abuned exist, and so do the social aspies, and everyone in between.
Its not a matter of what the public needs to know. It is what we want the public to know and what we want them to do. Her bouncing around on TV helps us how, exactly, asides being a possible source of footage for Autism Speaks and CAN.
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we? i shouldn't claim to speak for anyone else, if i were you.
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we? i shouldn't claim to speak for anyone else, if i were you.
Neither should Amanda really, thought you would finally get round to shooting yourself in the foot like that...
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/shrugs
you can have that point, with my blessing, as you so obviously need it. i don't.
if you knew anything about amanda, as a person, you'd know she doesn't claim that video as something which speaks for anyone but herself.
try speaking from knowledge and experience rather than misguided arrogance for once, just the once. the novelty might be refreshing for you.
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/shrugs
you can have that point, with my blessing, as you so obviously need it. i don't.
if you knew anything about amanda, as a person, you'd know she doesn't claim that video as something which speaks for anyone but herself.
try speaking from knowledge and experience rather than misguided arrogance for once, just the once. the novelty might be refreshing for you.
Lucifer, I think I know a damn site more about the media, asides having studied it and been on national television.
I also know what impression her videos are going to leave on NT's, i dont think they will be nice. Do I have to revive Dr_Quark to prove it to you?
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we? i shouldn't claim to speak for anyone else, if i were you.
Neither should Amanda really, thought you would finally get round to shooting yourself in the foot like that...
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold it there.
Since when did she state that she speaks for everyone in the autistic community in her video? I thought it was mainly to do with taking disabled peoples' humanity for granted.
"Yay, he can't excel at Maths! Let's make fun of him, the spastic! He's a non-human, anyway, so it's all good."
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/shrugs
you can have that point, with my blessing, as you so obviously need it. i don't.
if you knew anything about amanda, as a person, you'd know she doesn't claim that video as something which speaks for anyone but herself.
try speaking from knowledge and experience rather than misguided arrogance for once, just the once. the novelty might be refreshing for you.
Lucifer, I think I know a damn site more about the media, asides having studied it and been on national television.
maybe you do. but you don't know that. you have no idea about me, none whatsoever - i could have worked in the media for longer than you've been born, or have a partner who has, or anything.
when are you going to learn that you do NOT know everything, and stop making wildly inaccurate assumptions?
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Hardon has 'undergrad syndrome' and he hasn't even got there yet. His tutors are going to have fun. :eyebrows:
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Hardon has 'undergrad syndrome' and he hasn't even got there yet. His tutors are going to have fun. :eyebrows:
yes, but i doubt very much he will.
still, he won't listen. no point in bashing one's head against a brick wall.
i do hope he comes back on here and whines about it though, dont you? MAJOR Schadenfreude. :eyebrows:
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we? i shouldn't claim to speak for anyone else, if i were you.
Neither should Amanda really, thought you would finally get round to shooting yourself in the foot like that...
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold it there.
Since when did she state that speaks for everyone in the autistic community in her video? I thought it was mainly to do with taking disabled peoples' humanity for granted.
"Yay, he can't excel at Maths! Let's make fun of him, the spastic! He's a non-human, anyway, so it's all good."
Since she went on TV as an someone under the autistic spectrum, she used our label, end of. Thats how she defined herself. Her using a label that many other people share suddenly becomes everyone on the spectrums buisiness doesnt it?
Lucifer, you would have mentioned your media expertise in an earlier conversation if you had it, and you would have applied it to advocacy wouldnt you?
As for you having a partner I would bet the answer would be no wouldnt it?
When did I say I knew everything, you seem to be the patronising one dont you?
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Lucifer, you would have mentioned your media expertise in an earlier conversation if you had it
why? why do you assume i'd tell you? as has been pointed out, you know jack shit about me, sweetheart.
and you would have applied it to advocacy wouldnt you?
how do you know i haven't?
As for you having a partner I would bet the answer would be no wouldnt it?
ditto
When did I say I knew everything, you seem to be the patronising one dont you?
:laugh: if i were patronising you child, you'd know it, believe me.
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Lucifer, you would have mentioned your media expertise in an earlier conversation if you had it
why? why do you assume i'd tell you? as has been pointed out, you know jack shit about me, sweetheart.
and you would have applied it to advocacy wouldnt you?
how do you know i haven't?
As for you having a partner I would bet the answer would be no wouldnt it?
ditto
When did I say I knew everything, you seem to be the patronising one dont you?
:laugh: if i were patronising you child, you'd know it, believe me.
1. Simple, you would have not been doodling around as an unpaid representative for AS people at you uni. You would have done something bigger, unless you are a total coward?
2. If you had done something remotely big I would know about it, again you have an ego and would have mentioned it.
3. You strike me as miserable, and also the volume of time you spend on here combined with other commitments you wouldnt have time for one, or there is somewhere you have lied. And frequently.
4. Fire away, that would be intresting...
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Lucifer, you would have mentioned your media expertise in an earlier conversation if you had it
why? why do you assume i'd tell you? as has been pointed out, you know jack shit about me, sweetheart.
and you would have applied it to advocacy wouldnt you?
how do you know i haven't?
As for you having a partner I would bet the answer would be no wouldnt it?
ditto
When did I say I knew everything, you seem to be the patronising one dont you?
:laugh: if i were patronising you child, you'd know it, believe me.
1. Simple, you would have not been doodling around as an unpaid representative for AS people at you uni. You would have done something bigger, unless you are a total coward?
wrong. you have no idea what else i do.
2. If you had done something remotely big I would know about it, again you have an ego and would have mentioned it.
wrong again. i may well have saved your life, indirectly, at some point.
3. You strike me as miserable, and also the volume of time you spend on here combined with other commitments you wouldnt have time for one, or there is somewhere you have lied. And frequently.
you've really have a hair up your arse about me lying, don't you? why is it so important to you, hmm?
4. Fire away, that would be intresting...
for you, certainly. for me, it would be like playing chess with a gerbil.
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Lucifer, you would have mentioned your media expertise in an earlier conversation if you had it
why? why do you assume i'd tell you? as has been pointed out, you know jack shit about me, sweetheart.
and you would have applied it to advocacy wouldnt you?
how do you know i haven't?
As for you having a partner I would bet the answer would be no wouldnt it?
ditto
When did I say I knew everything, you seem to be the patronising one dont you?
:laugh: if i were patronising you child, you'd know it, believe me.
1. Simple, you would have not been doodling around as an unpaid representative for AS people at you uni. You would have done something bigger, unless you are a total coward?
wrong. you have no idea what else i do.
2. If you had done something remotely big I would know about it, again you have an ego and would have mentioned it.
wrong again. i may well have saved your life, indirectly, at some point.
3. You strike me as miserable, and also the volume of time you spend on here combined with other commitments you wouldnt have time for one, or there is somewhere you have lied. And frequently.
you've really have a hair up your arse about me lying, don't you? why is it so important to you, hmm?
4. Fire away, that would be intresting...
for you, certainly. for me, it would be like playing chess with a gerbil.
I would love to see how you may have indirectly saved my life, that would be amusing...
Why dont you enlighten me on some of this stuf you are doing, the reason you are dodging the questions is that I must be partially right somewhere. As for lying, i have made an assumption that you have not done so too frequently to make what I have more or less figured out invalid.
As for the playing chess with a gerbil thing, you would be surprised how good I am at arguing in person. I normally win in games of wits, unless you are trying to tell me you are some genius at it.
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as i said on the first or second day after your delightful appearance here, i don't reveal stuff about myself to people i don't know or trust. you really should pay attention, you know.
think you're right, if that gives you a hadron, oops, sorry, i meant hard on.
no i haven't lied - you just got it wrong, dear.
yep, i'm a genius at it. next?
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as i said on the first or second day after your delightful appearance here, i don't reveal stuff about myself to people i don't know or trust. you really should pay attention, you know.
think you're right, if that gives you a hadron, oops, sorry, i meant hard on.
no i haven't lied - you just got it wrong, dear.
yep, i'm a genius at it. next?
Right, I am going to assume the saving my life bit is false or an exageration...
The havent lied thing is totally meaningless...
As for the advocacy thing, if you have been successful and are so good at it, explain why the NAS is under almost total NT control. Wouldnt that be an obvious target if you actually had the ability to do so.
So which bits am i right about and which ones am I wrong about, go on correct me, i know it gets your ego high...
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Sing along with me, everybody! All in unison now!
"Anything you can do, I can do better. I have "undergrad syndrome" and I'm better than you! No, you're not. Yes, I am! No, you're not! YES, I AM! NO, YOU'RE NOT! YES, I AM! YES, I AAAAAMMMMM!!!"
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Sing along with me, everybody! All in unison now!
"Anything you can do, I can do better. I have "undergrad syndrome" and I'm better than you! No, you're not. Yes, I am! No, you're not! YES, I AM! NO, YOU'RE NOT! YES, I AM! YES, I AAAAAMMMMM!!!"
:LMAO: :plus:
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as i said on the first or second day after your delightful appearance here, i don't reveal stuff about myself to people i don't know or trust. you really should pay attention, you know.
think you're right, if that gives you a hadron, oops, sorry, i meant hard on.
no i haven't lied - you just got it wrong, dear.
yep, i'm a genius at it. next?
Right, I am going to assume the saving my life bit is false or an exageration...
The havent lied thing is totally meaningless...
As for the advocacy thing, if you have been successful and are so good at it, explain why the NAS is under almost total NT control. Wouldnt that be an obvious target if you actually had the ability to do so.
So which bits am i right about and which ones am I wrong about, go on correct me, i know it gets your ego high...
do you ever actually manage to retain information longer than a goldfish's attention span?
i'll cut and paste it, shall i, all the way from the top of this post:
i don't reveal stuff about myself to people i don't know or trust. you really should pay attention, you know.
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as i said on the first or second day after your delightful appearance here, i don't reveal stuff about myself to people i don't know or trust. you really should pay attention, you know.
think you're right, if that gives you a hadron, oops, sorry, i meant hard on.
no i haven't lied - you just got it wrong, dear.
yep, i'm a genius at it. next?
Right, I am going to assume the saving my life bit is false or an exageration...
The havent lied thing is totally meaningless...
As for the advocacy thing, if you have been successful and are so good at it, explain why the NAS is under almost total NT control. Wouldnt that be an obvious target if you actually had the ability to do so.
So which bits am i right about and which ones am I wrong about, go on correct me, i know it gets your ego high...
do you ever actually manage to retain information longer than a goldfish's attention span?
i'll cut and paste it, shall i, all the way from the top of this post:
i don't reveal stuff about myself to people i don't know or trust. you really should pay attention, you know.
Of course, what an ingenous way of saving face when you have lost an arguement... I suppose you could chuck anything under that label...
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let's have a vote, shall we? you start a thread, asking if i lost the argument, and we'll let everyone else decide.
and if they decide i lost, then i'll accede to your request, and patronise the bejaysus out of you. :-*
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let's have a vote, shall we? you start a thread, asking if i lost the argument, and we'll let everyone else decide.
and if they decide i lost, then i'll accede to your request, and patronise the bejaysus out of you. :-*
Yeah sure, ill revive Dr_Quark shall I...?
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OH NOES! UNDERGRAD! (http://www.mediafire.com/?4m0et9ytwgm)
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OH NOES! UNDERGAD! (http://www.mediafire.com/?4m0et9ytwgm)
Well they will be holding the vote... :green:
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OH NOES! UNDERGRAD! (http://www.mediafire.com/?4m0et9ytwgm)
Well they will be holding the vote... :green:
Shush. You're only funnah cuz you have undergrad.
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Hardon:
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Before i met abuned, I thought that autistic people like her were mindless, like babies, less than babies , because they cannot feel love or make any connection. Seeing her videos and reading her posts taught me i was wrong about that.
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Hardon:
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:LMAO:
pithy. utterly full of pith, that. :-*
:plus:
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Thank you dear.
Penn Jillette is the fucking man.
(What is your definition of pith? I looked it up and all I can find is references to botany.)
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short, precise, to the point, sharp, incisive, generall with a bit of a sting..
(incidentally, "dear" is often used as a bit of an insult over here - patronising, sort of thing).
:-*
(oooh, so can i pretend to be insulted, and you have to make it up to me? :eyebrows: )
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short, precise, to the point, sharp, incisive, generall with a bit of a sting..
(incidentally, "dear" is often used as a bit of an insult over here - patronising, sort of thing).
:-*
(oooh, so can i pretend to be insulted, and you have to make it up to me? :eyebrows: )
Is it? In that case, I must be punished for my faux pas.
I know you don't want to and that it is more punishment for you than it is for me... but I insist.
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er, hang on. i thought i was the one doing the insisting, seeing as how i've been insulted?
(gosh, those jeans look terribly uncomfortable. are you sure you wouldn't be better off loosening them a little? :eyelash: )
:-*
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They are indeed getting rather tight... tighter by the moment actually.
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They are indeed getting rather tight... tighter by the moment actually.
ker-CHING!
:drool:
oh, we can't be doing with that - anything i can do to help? :eyelash:
(http://planetsmilies.net/tongue-smiley-8854.gif)
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You're the reason for it, if anyone should do something about, it should be you. It's only fair.
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You're the reason for it, if anyone should do something about, it should be you. It's only fair.
oh, absolutely. i'm all for justice, you know.
mind you, they say you're either about justice or mercy. and i'm definitely about justice, so no mercy for you, young man... :whip:
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I have asked for none, and expect to receive it, in abundance.
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's not all you'll receive, hot stuff. :-*
(someone pass me a room, for fuck's sake!)
>:D
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's not all you'll receive, hot stuff. :-*
(someone pass me a room, for fuck's sake!)
>:D
I can't quite pick up a room physically to pass it to you, but I can try to for the sake of fucking.
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bless you, alex. you are a man with a perfectly proportioned sense of priority. (blimey - dig that alliteration!).
sadly, his lunch break is over, now... :'(
but stay tuned for later!
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Ok, back on topic.
Both Lucifer and Hadron raise valid points. And sniping each other because you disagree is not getting anyone anywhere. K? Good.
Amanda Baggs' videos poses an intriguing question, what is language and what is communication? Autistics know the hard way that communication isn't just verbal language, it's verbal, it's bodyn it's alot of other things. Communication can be both blunt and subtle at the same time. And indeed some people don't even use verbal language to communicate. We're now using a textual language it's visual in nature. Same with sign language.
I don't think Amanda Baggs' version of language is any less relevant than any other form of communication. But!
There's always a but. She complains that people don't make the effort to learn her language or her ways, which is a valid complaint, however she has made little effort to learn the languages of others except where it benefits her, such as typing. From what I heard in her video she seems like an incredibly lazy and selfish person, not learning to blow her nose til she was 25, but she seems quite capable of constructing this rather complex and provocative video; because it serves her purpose. And is not Autism essentially "of the self"?
Before we criticise others, be they Amanda, Lucifer or Hadron, take a few moments to learn where they're coming from and understand their point of view. That way you'll be far more equipped to rip their arguments to pieces :evillaugh:
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er, thanks, GA. for telling me how to do my job?
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er, thanks, GA. for telling me how to do my job?
No worries :) Glad I could help.
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Ok, back on topic.
Both Lucifer and Hadron raise valid points. And sniping each other because you disagree is not getting anyone anywhere. K? Good.
Amanda Baggs' videos poses an intriguing question, what is language and what is communication? Autistics know the hard way that communication isn't just verbal language, it's verbal, it's bodyn it's alot of other things. Communication can be both blunt and subtle at the same time. And indeed some people don't even use verbal language to communicate. We're now using a textual language it's visual in nature. Same with sign language.
I don't think Amanda Baggs' version of language is any less relevant than any other form of communication. But!
There's always a but. She complains that people don't make the effort to learn her language or her ways, which is a valid complaint, however she has made little effort to learn the languages of others except where it benefits her, such as typing. From what I heard in her video she seems like an incredibly lazy and selfish person, not learning to blow her nose til she was 25, but she seems quite capable of constructing this rather complex and provocative video; because it serves her purpose. And is not Autism essentially "of the self"?
Before we criticise others, be they Amanda, Lucifer or Hadron, take a few moments to learn where they're coming from and understand their point of view. That way you'll be far more equipped to rip their arguments to pieces :evillaugh:
*Begins long period of prayer and meditaition to try to find out where on earth Lucifer is coming from* GA, you should work for relate with that speech :laugh:
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"work for relate", what's that mean? :: assumes it's a good thing and smiles :: :)
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"to relate", you jackass.
Not GA, but Hadron -- for he is the only douchebag around here.
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"to relate", you jackass.
Not GA, Hadron -- for he is the only douchebag around here.
No Relate is a councelling organistion in the UK (and Aussie i think as well). You just spoiled the joke though...
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"to relate", you jackass.
Not GA, Hadron -- for he is the only douchebag around here.
No Relate is a councelling organistion in the UK (and Aussie i think as well). You just spoiled the joke though...
How the fuck am I supposed to know that when a) you didn't capitalise the noun, and b) you didn't give a brief description regarding Relate, a counselling organisation which is based in the UK, like I have done? Do I look like Mystic Meg to you?
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"to relate", you jackass.
Not GA, Hadron -- for he is the only douchebag around here.
No Relate is a councelling organistion in the UK (and Aussie i think as well). You just spoiled the joke though...
How the fuck am I supposed to know that when a) you didn't capitalise the noun, and b) you didn't give a brief description regarding Relate, a counselling organisation which is based in the UK, like I have done? Do I look like Mystic Meg to you?
No you look like Dear Dreary...
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hehe
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"to relate", you jackass.
Not GA, Hadron -- for he is the only douchebag around here.
No Relate is a councelling organistion in the UK (and Aussie i think as well). You just spoiled the joke though...
How the fuck am I supposed to know that when a) you didn't capitalise the noun, and b) you didn't give a brief description regarding Relate, a counselling organisation which is based in the UK, like I have done? Do I look like Mystic Meg to you?
No you look like Dear Dreary...
Insolent motherfucker.
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er, thanks, GA. for telling me how to do my job?
No worries :) Glad I could help.
:laugh:
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Careful, you'll embarrass them both.
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what is your position in these matters, pyraxis?
or have i missed it?
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I think that if Hadron is going to rail against negative representation of an "autistic brand", he would be better off to go after the mass of people who come off as whiners and fakers to NT's. I'm not saying they are whiners and fakers for asking for supports that NT's don't understand the need for. But if they could be taught better advocacy skills, their requests wouldn't be rejected so offhandedly.
Of course, if one is to invest energy in teaching better advocacy skills, there are better ways to do it than ranting about a woman who isn't even here to defend herself. Hadron would be more effective to approach Amanda Baggs in person and offer suggestions on how to improve her message. By simply saying she should shut up if she can't act more "normal", he's effectively taking on the position of the NT's he claims to be fighting.
One has only to read through a few pages of comments on Amanda Baggs' site to realize how many people her message is reaching, with some semblance of accuracy. While anyone in a media spotlight has both positive and negative effects, she has done more good than harm.
I think Lucifer is doing her usual routine of condescension and verbal maneouvering to cover her ass, being a sore loser even though it was just one point Hadron scored on her. Her criticism of Hadron is accurate. But "i don't reveal stuff about myself to people i don't know or trust" is immediately suspicious (not to mention a convenient "out" from the debate) and makes one wonder what she wants so badly to hide.
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thank you.
i didn't really have an opinion before.
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:laugh: That implies you've changed your mind.
What's your opinion?
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:laugh: That implies you've changed your mind.
What's your opinion?
no i didn't have a mind to change. i now have an opinion, yet one that i am not quite sold on yet.
i would answer in more detail, but :popcorn:
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I think that if Hadron is going to rail against negative representation of an "autistic brand", he would be better off to go after the mass of people who come off as whiners and fakers to NT's. I'm not saying they are whiners and fakers for asking for supports that NT's don't understand the need for. But if they could be taught better advocacy skills, their requests wouldn't be rejected so offhandedly.
Of course, if one is to invest energy in teaching better advocacy skills, there are better ways to do it than ranting about a woman who isn't even here to defend herself. Hadron would be more effective to approach Amanda Baggs in person and offer suggestions on how to improve her message. By simply saying she should shut up if she can't act more "normal", he's effectively taking on the position of the NT's he claims to be fighting.
One has only to read through a few pages of comments on Amanda Baggs' site to realize how many people her message is reaching, with some semblance of accuracy. While anyone in a media spotlight has both positive and negative effects, she has done more good than harm.
I think Lucifer is doing her usual routine of condescension and verbal maneouvering to cover her ass, being a sore loser even though it was just one point Hadron scored on her. Her criticism of Hadron is accurate. But "i don't reveal stuff about myself to people i don't know or trust" is immediately suspicious (not to mention a convenient "out" from the debate) and makes one wonder what she wants so badly to hide.
There are a glut of people who come off as whiners and fakers to NT's, but they dont often end up being aired on national television. If you want to invite Ms Baggs to come and debate with me here then I will happily oblige on this issue. Amanda may be reaching people in a positive light, but it is the ignorant masses that I am concerned about, after all they are the main problem, not the ones that can articulate a comment and write it on a website. The majority of NT's that see that video are going to come off with a very negative impression of us as a group of people, if you really want I can test and prove that with a little effort. I am sure Amanda has the best of intentions at heart, but that does not change the impression that average NT's are going to get off it.
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Hadron: your ignorant masses don't often get aired on national television either. Who's to say their knee-jerk opinions are more dangerous to an "autistic cause" than the mistaken impression the masses of so-called whiners and fakers are giving?
If you want to debate Amanda Baggs, approach her yourself. You're the one who's concerned with her message, not me. My main concern here is sharpening my teeth in debate, in order to prepare for a completely urelated advocacy phone call I have to make tomorrow.
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Hadron: your ignorant masses don't often get aired on national television either. Who's to say their knee-jerk opinions are more dangerous to an "autistic cause" than the mistaken impression the masses of so-called whiners and fakers are giving?
If you want to debate Amanda Baggs, approach her yourself. You're the one who's concerned with her message, not me. My main concern here is sharpening my teeth in debate, in order to prepare for a completely urelated advocacy phone call I have to make tomorrow.
I have no real idea who she is or how to find her, maybe she is too busy making more of these videos to be found anyway...?
The knee jerk opinions are a problem for the simple number of them, if some of the crackpot schemes autism rights activists got anywhere of the ground alot of us would get daily beating for just walking along the streets...
Anyway, how come you are making an advocasy call tommorow...?
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Her blog is here: http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/ (http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/). You can reach her by posting comments or by email, which takes the URL, removes the http://, and replaces the first dot with an @.
The knee jerk opinions are a problem for the simple number of them, if some of the crackpot schemes autism rights activists got anywhere of the ground alot of us would get daily beating for just walking along the streets...
I don't understand this. What do you mean by "the simple number of them"? The number of who?
I have to convince a health insurance company to provide interim coverage, or at the very least, expedite an application for acceptance of coverage, on behalf of a friend who will be in major trouble if there is an interruption in their health insurance.
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Her blog is here: http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/ (http://ballastexistenz.autistics.org/). You can reach her by posting comments or by email, which takes the URL, removes the http://, and replaces the first dot with an @.
The knee jerk opinions are a problem for the simple number of them, if some of the crackpot schemes autism rights activists got anywhere of the ground alot of us would get daily beating for just walking along the streets...
I don't understand this. What do you mean by "the simple number of them"? The number of who?
I have to convince a health insurance company to provide interim coverage, or at the very least, expedite an application for acceptance of coverage, on behalf of a friend who will be in major trouble if there is an interruption in their health insurance.
I could reach her like that but I tend to prefer public debate on an open forum, just my style.
How many ignorent NT's are there and how many Aspies are there, i kind of skewed that sentence.
You should move your friend to the UK. No insurence needed for healthcare at all...
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I could reach her like that but I tend to prefer public debate on an open forum, just my style.
::) If venue is that important to you, you could invite her here. I believe she already has an account, though I don't know how often she bothers to check it. But your protests are starting to sound like excuses.
How many ignorent NT's are there and how many Aspies are there, i kind of skewed that sentence.
More ignorant NT's than aspies, sure, but keep in mind that the average ignorant NT doesn't give a flying fuck about autism. Sure, they might spend a few minutes sniggering at the "retard", but then they'll go on with their lives without exerting a major influence on society. Nothing an organized political campaign can't change. One of the things political figureheads have to accept is that not everybody is going to like or understand their message.
You should move your friend to the UK. No insurence needed for healthcare at all...
That's actually not a bad last-resort idea (though it would take long enough that the trouble couldn't be avoided anyway). Would they offer healthcare even to a non-citizen?
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I could reach her like that but I tend to prefer public debate on an open forum, just my style.
::) If venue is that important to you, you could invite her here. I believe she already has an account, though I don't know how often she bothers to check it. But your protests are starting to sound like excuses.
How many ignorent NT's are there and how many Aspies are there, i kind of skewed that sentence.
More ignorant NT's than aspies, sure, but keep in mind that the average ignorant NT doesn't give a flying fuck about autism. Sure, they might spend a few minutes sniggering at the "retard", but then they'll go on with their lives without exerting a major influence on society. Nothing an organized political campaign can't change. One of the things political figureheads have to accept is that not everybody is going to like or understand their message.
You should move your friend to the UK. No insurence needed for healthcare at all...
That's actually not a bad last-resort idea (though it would take long enough that the trouble couldn't be avoided anyway). Would they offer healthcare even to a non-citizen?
Sure, the downside is I dont know her so she is unlikely to come here if I ask her. Even less likely as I have a total desire to remain anonimous. If she were to turn up here then i would debate it with her...
That is the way it is at the minute, but if society is changed so NT's do give a fuck about autism then aspie bashing would become a sport. Thats obviously somewhere I would like to avoid happening. Also bare in mind that NT's make decisions about us, if they think we are all retards when making this decisions then HFA people are going to be totally ignored in any form of help / assistance.
As for your friends healthcare, the simple answer is I do not know. There does seem to be alot of outraged articles in the Daily Mail about foreigners milking our health system though...
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Sure, the downside is I dont know her so she is unlikely to come here if I ask her. Even less likely as I have a total desire to remain anonimous.
:laugh: You and Lucifer both, then. I can understand it, but it does limit one's power in defending a cause.
That is the way it is at the minute, but if society is changed so NT's do give a fuck about autism then aspie bashing would become a sport.
Hm. Last time I checked, aspie bashing was already a sport, people just don't know that the "losers" and "freaks" they're beating up have a diagnosable condition. I'm not sure that them adding the label to their retinue of insults would increase the number of people being fucked with.
Also bare in mind that NT's make decisions about us, if they think we are all retards when making this decisions then HFA people are going to be totally ignored in any form of help / assistance.
Valid concern, but it goes both ways. If only high-functioning people (and yes I know that term's debatable, but I don't have a better word for it) advocate, then the ones who have more trouble would be just as left out in the cold. I'm in favor of as many people speaking up as possible. Like you said, there are more NT's than autistics. We can't afford to silence our own.
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Sure, the downside is I dont know her so she is unlikely to come here if I ask her. Even less likely as I have a total desire to remain anonimous.
:laugh: You and Lucifer both, then. I can understand it, but it does limit one's power in defending a cause.
That is the way it is at the minute, but if society is changed so NT's do give a fuck about autism then aspie bashing would become a sport.
Hm. Last time I checked, aspie bashing was already a sport, people just don't know that the "losers" and "freaks" they're beating up have a diagnosable condition. I'm not sure that them adding the label to their retinue of insults would increase the number of people being fucked with.
Also bare in mind that NT's make decisions about us, if they think we are all retards when making this decisions then HFA people are going to be totally ignored in any form of help / assistance.
Valid concern, but it goes both ways. If only high-functioning people (and yes I know that term's debatable, but I don't have a better word for it) advocate, then the ones who have more trouble would be just as left out in the cold. I'm in favor of as many people speaking up as possible. Like you said, there are more NT's than autistics. We can't afford to silence our own.
1. True I like to remain private, but I dont pull anything into a debate that I cannot back up within the domains of my privacy. You are right, it constrains my arguement, but I am used to it really, when you pretend to be an NTconstantly then you get well versed in being able to do it.
2. Aspie bashing is a bit of a sport to some people as it is now, but it can always become a more popular one. Particuarly when aspies are given unwelcome publicity, most bullying in schools revolves around what is currently in the media.
3. Certain times it is helpful to silence our own. For example if dear Cho who shot up Virginia Tech was publised as an aspie, then we would have has a big problem on our hands. Same with a large amount of people who currently run things in the world, their are an awful lot of closet aspies in high up positions, many nations are run by them, often in a backdoor manner. If they were forced out of the closet I think people would start to get pretty scared of us, given how much we actually run things in the world, it would be the Jew thing all over again...
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:popcorn:
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:popcorn:
Can I have some?
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I think Lucifer is doing her usual routine of condescension and verbal maneouvering to cover her ass, being a sore loser even though it was just one point Hadron scored on her. Her criticism of Hadron is accurate. But "i don't reveal stuff about myself to people i don't know or trust" is immediately suspicious (not to mention a convenient "out" from the debate) and makes one wonder what she wants so badly to hide.
unfair, pyraxis, as you know full well how private a person i am, and have always been on whichever board i've posted on, and i know you feel the same way - at least in part - yourself. "a convenient out" etc. is point scoring, and , i thought, beneath you.
a shame, because other than that, i agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your comments, as you also already know.
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I think that if Hadron is going to rail against negative representation of an "autistic brand", he would be better off to go after the mass of people who come off as whiners and fakers to NT's. I'm not saying they are whiners and fakers for asking for supports that NT's don't understand the need for. But if they could be taught better advocacy skills, their requests wouldn't be rejected so offhandedly.
Of course, if one is to invest energy in teaching better advocacy skills, there are better ways to do it than ranting about a woman who isn't even here to defend herself. Hadron would be more effective to approach Amanda Baggs in person and offer suggestions on how to improve her message. By simply saying she should shut up if she can't act more "normal", he's effectively taking on the position of the NT's he claims to be fighting.
One has only to read through a few pages of comments on Amanda Baggs' site to realize how many people her message is reaching, with some semblance of accuracy. While anyone in a media spotlight has both positive and negative effects, she has done more good than harm.
Except for the Lucifer bit, I wholeheartedly agree with your post, Py.
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I think Lucifer is doing her usual routine of condescension and verbal maneouvering to cover her ass, being a sore loser even though it was just one point Hadron scored on her. Her criticism of Hadron is accurate. But "i don't reveal stuff about myself to people i don't know or trust" is immediately suspicious (not to mention a convenient "out" from the debate) and makes one wonder what she wants so badly to hide.
unfair, pyraxis, as you know full well how private a person i am, and have always been on whichever board i've posted on, and i know you feel the same way - at least in part - yourself. "a convenient out" etc. is point scoring, and , i thought, beneath you.
a shame, because other than that, i agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your comments, as you also already know.
Lucifer, there is nothing wrong with being a private person, but dont open lines of conversation that you are unwilling to follow through. It would be nice if you opened up a bit though to a degree.
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Lucifer, there is nothing wrong with being a private person,
how kind of you to allow me to be so. ::)
but dont open lines of conversation that you are unwilling to follow through.
bollocks. it's up to me where i draw the line between privacy and disclosure, with regard to myself. maybe you shoud think more about being a little less voracious in pursuing lines of enquiry which cross people's boundaries.
It would be nice if you opened up a bit though to a degree.
nice for whom? and i do, thank you, to those i know and/or trust.
i'm beginning to feel like a parrot, repeating myself to you so often.
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Lucifer, there is nothing wrong with being a private person,
how kind of you to allow me to be so. ::)
but dont open lines of conversation that you are unwilling to follow through.
bollocks. it's up to me where i draw the line between privacy and disclosure, with regard to myself. maybe you shoud think more about being a little less voracious in pursuing lines of enquiry which cross people's boundaries.
It would be nice if you opened up a bit though to a degree.
nice for whom? and i do, thank you, to those i know and/or trust.
i'm beginning to feel like a parrot, repeating myself to you so often.
Dont make claims that you are unwilling or unable to back up then. I seem to manage to avoid getting dragged down those lines, and i have the same privacy concerns. If you are going to argue with me then at least dont hide behind some artifical facade of imaginary lines, if i played the same game the way you did there would be no conversation whatsoever. As for knowing and trusting people, thats more or less impossible to do over a forum of this nature really...
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Where's the circular argument emoticon when you need it? :laugh:
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Sorry for being the hypocrite here, but can we all just shut the fuck up about Vivi and her need for privacy on the internet, and get back to the main topic at hand -- A.B. is a cunt, Hadron is an insensitive cunt?
Leave her alone, yeah?
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Where's the circular argument emoticon when you need it? :laugh:
:GA:
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Where's the circular argument emoticon when you need it? :laugh:
:GA:
Where's the "wobbly fat man circular argument" emoticon when you need it? :(
Oh shit, and I made that fucking post about not derailing because it gives you cancer.
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Sorry for being the hypocrite here, but can we all just shut the fuck up about Vivi and her need for privacy on the internet, and get back to the main topic at hand -- A.B. is a cunt, Hadron is an insensitive cunt?
Leave her alone, yeah?
Is vivi incapable of answering for herself? As for private conversations, and privacy on the internet, really there is no such thing, someone with a specialist milliatary/ mi5 search engine could tag us up to our real world selves by running a bot over this site very quickly.
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Where's the circular argument emoticon when you need it? :laugh:
:GA:
Where's the "wobbly fat man circular argument" emoticon when you need it? :(
Oh shit, and I made that fucking post about not derailing because it gives you cancer.
:finger:
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Sorry for being the hypocrite here, but can we all just shut the fuck up about Vivi and her need for privacy on the internet, and get back to the main topic at hand -- A.B. is a cunt, Hadron is an insensitive cunt?
Leave her alone, yeah?
:agreed: Its not really to do with the real discussion and since you've also claimed a need for privacy yourself Hadron it seems a little hypocritical of you to get at her about it.
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i haven't "spoken for myself" because i've been trying to post this fucking thing for ages, but everyone else seems to be exercised by it, and so i've had the new post warning about 6 times. this is my last attempt, as i'm getting utterly bored by it.
Lucifer, there is nothing wrong with being a private person,
how kind of you to allow me to be so. ::)
but dont open lines of conversation that you are unwilling to follow through.
bollocks. it's up to me where i draw the line between privacy and disclosure, with regard to myself. maybe you shoud think more about being a little less voracious in pursuing lines of enquiry which cross people's boundaries.
It would be nice if you opened up a bit though to a degree.
nice for whom? and i do, thank you, to those i know and/or trust.
i'm beginning to feel like a parrot, repeating myself to you so often.
Dont make claims that you are unwilling or unable to back up then. I seem to manage to avoid getting dragged down those lines, and i have the same privacy concerns. If you are going to argue with me then at least dont hide behind some artifical facade of imaginary lines,
stealing other people's lines? pathetic.
if i played the same game the way you did there would be no conversation whatsoever.
result!
As for knowing and trusting people, thats more or less impossible to do over a forum of this nature really...
if you say so. i'll discuss that with the number of people i consider my closest friends, whom i've met through these boards, and with whom i'm in contact outside of this board, and see what they think.
i'm not going to trust you, hardon - get over it.
as for your comment about search engines... a) i'm not in the least interesting enough for anyone to target me, and don't possess the delusional sense of self importance that i am, and
b) if there is a chance that these conspiracy-theory-paranoia-fuelled bots are interested, i don't need to give them any more ammunition.
shot in foot.
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Sorry for being the hypocrite here, but can we all just shut the fuck up about Vivi and her need for privacy on the internet, and get back to the main topic at hand -- A.B. is a cunt, Hadron is an insensitive cunt?
Leave her alone, yeah?
:agreed: Its not really to do with the real discussion and since you've also claimed a need for privacy yourself Hadron it seems a little hypocritical of you to get at her about it.
Yes but the difference is i dont hide behind it, i dont start a line of conversation that can lead to my lines being crossed.
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Sorry for being the hypocrite here, but can we all just shut the fuck up about Vivi and her need for privacy on the internet, and get back to the main topic at hand -- A.B. is a cunt, Hadron is an insensitive cunt?
Leave her alone, yeah?
:agreed: Its not really to do with the real discussion and since you've also claimed a need for privacy yourself Hadron it seems a little hypocritical of you to get at her about it.
Yes but the difference is i dont hide behind it, i dont start a line of conversation that can lead to my lines being crossed.
But you did- you claimed that you'd love to discuss the issue with Amanda herself, but when told she was a member it was part of your excuse for not inviting her to the debate : 'Sure, the downside is I dont know her so she is unlikely to come here if I ask her. Even less likely as I have a total desire to remain anonimous. If she were to turn up here then i would debate it with her...'
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i haven't "spoken for myself" because i've been trying to post this fucking thing for ages, but everyone else seems to be exercised by it, and so i've had the new post warning about 6 times. this is my last attempt, as i'm getting utterly bored by it.
Lucifer, there is nothing wrong with being a private person,
how kind of you to allow me to be so. ::)
Luci
but dont open lines of conversation that you are unwilling to follow through.
bollocks. it's up to me where i draw the line between privacy and disclosure, with regard to myself. maybe you shoud think more about being a little less voracious in pursuing lines of enquiry which cross people's boundaries.
It would be nice if you opened up a bit though to a degree.
nice for whom? and i do, thank you, to those i know and/or trust.
i'm beginning to feel like a parrot, repeating myself to you so often.
Dont make claims that you are unwilling or unable to back up then. I seem to manage to avoid getting dragged down those lines, and i have the same privacy concerns. If you are going to argue with me then at least dont hide behind some artifical facade of imaginary lines,
stealing other people's lines? pathetic.
if i played the same game the way you did there would be no conversation whatsoever.
result!
As for knowing and trusting people, thats more or less impossible to do over a forum of this nature really...
if you say so. i'll discuss that with the number of people i consider my closest friends, whom i've met through these boards, and with whom i'm in contact outside of this board, and see what they think.
i'm not going to trust you, hardon - get over it.
as for your comment about search engines... a) i'm not in the least interesting enough for anyone to target me, and don't possess the delusional sense of self importance that i am, and
b) if there is a chance that these conspiracy-theory-paranoia-fuelled bots are interested, i don't need to give them any more ammunition.
shot in foot.
Lucifer, is that you bei ng a sore loser for me scoring a few points off you...
As for you having friends outside of this board, exactly you know them external to this.
As for you thinking I care about you trusting me, surprisingly i dont care. What i do care is that you are so weak you seem to have to raise this little card whenever you cant argue.
On the search engines, if you piss someone off that has access to them, basically any millatary person or exceptional computer scientist, they can have so much fun at your expense. Seriously privacy always wears down over time. As for how I know of these search engines, all you have to do is have some computer science background and read between the lines in the news. Have you heard of Echelon and GCHQ. The fact all these systems exist, means they are going to get abused at some point. As for you not being intresting enough, we have got to the point which you are hiding really, havent we. You have less depth then you attempt to project.
I wonder who is going to reply first to this one, you or your lapdog...
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Sorry for being the hypocrite here, but can we all just shut the fuck up about Vivi and her need for privacy on the internet, and get back to the main topic at hand -- A.B. is a cunt, Hadron is an insensitive cunt?
Leave her alone, yeah?
:agreed: Its not really to do with the real discussion and since you've also claimed a need for privacy yourself Hadron it seems a little hypocritical of you to get at her about it.
Yes but the difference is i dont hide behind it, i dont start a line of conversation that can lead to my lines being crossed.
But you did- you claimed that you'd love to discuss the issue with Amanda herself, but when told she was a member it was part of your excuse for not inviting her to the debate : 'Sure, the downside is I dont know her so she is unlikely to come here if I ask her. Even less likely as I have a total desire to remain anonimous. If she were to turn up here then i would debate it with her...'
If you invite her here I will debate with her, it isnt my style to invite random people I dont know onto forums. If I made the invite all you would get is a nasty flame war most likely.
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can somebody please kill the thread by questioning Hardon's diagnosis? I rexckon he's got Twat's Syndrome meself...
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can somebody please kill the thread by questioning Hardon's diagnosis? I rexckon he's got Twat's Syndrome meself...
Lol, i dont think the questioning diagnosis one thing works, surprisingly i care very little what others think...
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Its a Law. From this point we can ignore you. :P
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can somebody please kill the thread by questioning Hardon's diagnosis? I rexckon he's got Twat's Syndrome meself...
i think he has FVS
forever virginitis syndrome.
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can somebody please kill the thread by questioning Hardon's diagnosis? I rexckon he's got Twat's Syndrome meself...
i think he has FVS
forever virginitis syndrome.
Fuck you.
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*whispers to Dunc*
I think it's working.
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*whispers to Dunc*
I think it's working.
:evillaugh:
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can somebody please kill the thread by questioning Hardon's diagnosis? I rexckon he's got Twat's Syndrome meself...
i think he has FVS
forever virginitis syndrome.
Fuck you.
a declaration, pea?
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unfair, pyraxis, as you know full well how private a person i am, and have always been on whichever board i've posted on, and i know you feel the same way - at least in part - yourself. "a convenient out" etc. is point scoring, and , i thought, beneath you.
It's both point scoring and valid. I really do think it hurts your argument to make vague grandiose claims about yourself ("I may well have saved your life at some point" etc.) and then clam up when asked to elaborate.
As for whether it's beneath me, I made my intentions clear (and at the moment it looks like the insurance mess isn't going to be as bad as I'd feared). I was practising both how to talk down an unreasonable person (Hadron) and challenge somebody I'd normally be wary of (you). I don't have enough practice in debate yet to know whether I'm more effective with attacks like going after your need for privacy, or with flies-and-honey like granting inconsequential points and then illustrating the clarity of my position anyway. Trial run. :)
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This thread is boring now.
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::) So fix it or quit bitching.
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/me fixes it by un-notifying the thread.
Done :)
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unfair, pyraxis, as you know full well how private a person i am, and have always been on whichever board i've posted on, and i know you feel the same way - at least in part - yourself. "a convenient out" etc. is point scoring, and , i thought, beneath you.
It's both point scoring and valid. I really do think it hurts your argument to make vague grandiose claims about yourself ("I may well have saved your life at some point" etc.) and then clam up when asked to elaborate.
As for whether it's beneath me, I made my intentions clear (and at the moment it looks like the insurance mess isn't going to be as bad as I'd feared). I was practising both how to talk down an unreasonable person (Hadron) and challenge somebody I'd normally be wary of (you). I don't have enough practice in debate yet to know whether I'm more effective with attacks like going after your need for privacy, or with flies-and-honey like granting inconsequential points and then illustrating the clarity of my position anyway. Trial run. :)
You calling me unreasonable, go ahead and explain where...
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/me fixes it by un-notifying the thread.
Done :)
:LMAO: :plus:
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/me fixes it by un-notifying the thread.
Done :)
:LMAO: :plus:
:LMAO:
GA - a man of means, by all means!!
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unfair, pyraxis, as you know full well how private a person i am, and have always been on whichever board i've posted on, and i know you feel the same way - at least in part - yourself. "a convenient out" etc. is point scoring, and , i thought, beneath you.
It's both point scoring and valid. I really do think it hurts your argument to make vague grandiose claims about yourself ("I may well have saved your life at some point" etc.) and then clam up when asked to elaborate.
As for whether it's beneath me, I made my intentions clear (and at the moment it looks like the insurance mess isn't going to be as bad as I'd feared). I was practising both how to talk down an unreasonable person (Hadron) and challenge somebody I'd normally be wary of (you). I don't have enough practice in debate yet to know whether I'm more effective with attacks like going after your need for privacy, or with flies-and-honey like granting inconsequential points and then illustrating the clarity of my position anyway. Trial run. :)
So, once again, you are treating the people here like lab rats, Pyraxis?
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unfair, pyraxis, as you know full well how private a person i am, and have always been on whichever board i've posted on, and i know you feel the same way - at least in part - yourself. "a convenient out" etc. is point scoring, and , i thought, beneath you.
It's both point scoring and valid. I really do think it hurts your argument to make vague grandiose claims about yourself ("I may well have saved your life at some point" etc.) and then clam up when asked to elaborate.
As for whether it's beneath me, I made my intentions clear (and at the moment it looks like the insurance mess isn't going to be as bad as I'd feared). I was practising both how to talk down an unreasonable person (Hadron) and challenge somebody I'd normally be wary of (you). I don't have enough practice in debate yet to know whether I'm more effective with attacks like going after your need for privacy, or with flies-and-honey like granting inconsequential points and then illustrating the clarity of my position anyway. Trial run. :)
So, once again, you are treating the people here like lab rats, Pyraxis?
Pyraxis isnt the only one who does it, i have a small habit of doing it...
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unfair, pyraxis, as you know full well how private a person i am, and have always been on whichever board i've posted on, and i know you feel the same way - at least in part - yourself. "a convenient out" etc. is point scoring, and , i thought, beneath you.
It's both point scoring and valid. I really do think it hurts your argument to make vague grandiose claims about yourself ("I may well have saved your life at some point" etc.) and then clam up when asked to elaborate.
As for whether it's beneath me, I made my intentions clear (and at the moment it looks like the insurance mess isn't going to be as bad as I'd feared). I was practising both how to talk down an unreasonable person (Hadron) and challenge somebody I'd normally be wary of (you). I don't have enough practice in debate yet to know whether I'm more effective with attacks like going after your need for privacy, or with flies-and-honey like granting inconsequential points and then illustrating the clarity of my position anyway. Trial run. :)
So, once again, you are treating the people here like lab rats, Pyraxis?
Pyraxis isnt the only one who does it, i have a small habit of doing it...
Someone is doing the same thing to you too. Hahaha.
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unfair, pyraxis, as you know full well how private a person i am, and have always been on whichever board i've posted on, and i know you feel the same way - at least in part - yourself. "a convenient out" etc. is point scoring, and , i thought, beneath you.
It's both point scoring and valid. I really do think it hurts your argument to make vague grandiose claims about yourself ("I may well have saved your life at some point" etc.) and then clam up when asked to elaborate.
As for whether it's beneath me, I made my intentions clear (and at the moment it looks like the insurance mess isn't going to be as bad as I'd feared). I was practising both how to talk down an unreasonable person (Hadron) and challenge somebody I'd normally be wary of (you). I don't have enough practice in debate yet to know whether I'm more effective with attacks like going after your need for privacy, or with flies-and-honey like granting inconsequential points and then illustrating the clarity of my position anyway. Trial run. :)
So, once again, you are treating the people here like lab rats, Pyraxis?
Pyraxis isnt the only one who does it, i have a small habit of doing it...
Someone is doing the same thing to you too. Hahaha.
The difference is that i have a bigger collection of lab rats...
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unfair, pyraxis, as you know full well how private a person i am, and have always been on whichever board i've posted on, and i know you feel the same way - at least in part - yourself. "a convenient out" etc. is point scoring, and , i thought, beneath you.
It's both point scoring and valid. I really do think it hurts your argument to make vague grandiose claims about yourself ("I may well have saved your life at some point" etc.) and then clam up when asked to elaborate.
As for whether it's beneath me, I made my intentions clear (and at the moment it looks like the insurance mess isn't going to be as bad as I'd feared). I was practising both how to talk down an unreasonable person (Hadron) and challenge somebody I'd normally be wary of (you). I don't have enough practice in debate yet to know whether I'm more effective with attacks like going after your need for privacy, or with flies-and-honey like granting inconsequential points and then illustrating the clarity of my position anyway. Trial run. :)
So, once again, you are treating the people here like lab rats, Pyraxis?
Pyraxis isnt the only one who does it, i have a small habit of doing it...
Someone is doing the same thing to you too. Hahaha.
The difference is that i have a bigger collection of lab rats...
How do you know for sure? Full of bullshit, just like your username.
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/me fixes it by un-notifying the thread.
Done :)
:LMAO: :plus:
:LMAO:
GA - a man of means, by all means!!
What's the opposite of the king of the road?
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Beggar of the streets, like yourself.
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So, once again, you are treating the people here like lab rats, Pyraxis?
Is there something wrong with that?
'tis always fun to try and decipher another's
game. Much more so when the endeavor is
not trite.
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unfair, pyraxis, as you know full well how private a person i am, and have always been on whichever board i've posted on, and i know you feel the same way - at least in part - yourself. "a convenient out" etc. is point scoring, and , i thought, beneath you.
It's both point scoring and valid. I really do think it hurts your argument to make vague grandiose claims about yourself ("I may well have saved your life at some point" etc.) and then clam up when asked to elaborate.
As for whether it's beneath me, I made my intentions clear (and at the moment it looks like the insurance mess isn't going to be as bad as I'd feared). I was practising both how to talk down an unreasonable person (Hadron) and challenge somebody I'd normally be wary of (you). I don't have enough practice in debate yet to know whether I'm more effective with attacks like going after your need for privacy, or with flies-and-honey like granting inconsequential points and then illustrating the clarity of my position anyway. Trial run. :)
So, once again, you are treating the people here like lab rats, Pyraxis?
Pyraxis isnt the only one who does it, i have a small habit of doing it...
Someone is doing the same thing to you too. Hahaha.
The difference is that i have a bigger collection of lab rats...
How do you know for sure? Full of bullshit, just like your username.
Moi, full of bullshit. I am offended that you could ever say such a thing peegai...
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Cry me a river, Your Royal Fucking Autistic Spasticated Highness. Please.
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Cry me a river, Your Royal Fucking Autistic Spasticated Highness. Please.
Ask an emo, not me...my tear ducts just dont have the capacity.
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I just did. Perhaps you're too fucking warped in your own world, sucking your widdle thumb while crying out for your mother's warmth, to pay any attention.
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You open your mouth a good deal Hadron. Tons of posts that seem to do nothing but make people think you are an arrogant jerkoff. Peegai obviously sees the majority of your posts as bullshit.
I just think you want people to know you are intelligent, which makes it too much of an endeavour for people to actually like you. The people who like you appreciate arrogant jerks, or are jerks themselves and relate to you. Then there are your fellow arrogant jerkoffs who are probably hypocritical in their hatred of you.
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/me fixes it by un-notifying the thread.
Done :)
:LMAO: :plus:
:LMAO:
GA - a man of means, by all means!!
What's the opposite of the king of the road?
Sorry, I'm all out of Roger Miller references. You'll have to tell me.
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I just did. Perhaps you're too fucking warped in your own world, sucking your widdle thumb while crying out for your mother's warmth, to pay any attention.
Reread my post more carefully...
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You open your mouth a good deal Hadron. Tons of posts that seem to do nothing but make people think you are an arrogant jerkoff. Peegai obviously sees the majority of your posts as bullshit.
I just think you want people to know you are intelligent, which makes it too much of an endeavour for people to actually like you. The people who like you appreciate arrogant jerks, or are jerks themselves and relate to you. Then there are your fellow arrogant jerkoffs who are probably hypocritical in their hatred of you.
Peegai is lucifers little lapdog, and he is in a mardy because her master has gone. As for being intelligent, yes I sometimes like to apply it, but i dont massively need everyone to know it. What matters is I know how intelligent i am, you would be surprised how helpful being underestimated can be.
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I just did. Perhaps you're too fucking warped in your own world, sucking your widdle thumb while crying out for your mother's warmth, to pay any attention.
Reread my post more carefully...
No thanks; I have better things to do with my time than to unravel the hidden intentions of some egocentric.
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I just did. Perhaps you're too fucking warped in your own world, sucking your widdle thumb while crying out for your mother's warmth, to pay any attention.
Reread my post more carefully...
No thanks; I have better things to do with my time than to unravel the hidden intentions of some egocentric.
Like contemplating why I'm interested in
how thongs and diapers interact? :laugh:
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I just did. Perhaps you're too fucking warped in your own world, sucking your widdle thumb while crying out for your mother's warmth, to pay any attention.
Reread my post more carefully...
No thanks; I have better things to do with my time than to unravel the hidden intentions of some egocentric.
How is your freedom form Lucifer been going so far peegai...?
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I just did. Perhaps you're too fucking warped in your own world, sucking your widdle thumb while crying out for your mother's warmth, to pay any attention.
Reread my post more carefully...
No thanks; I have better things to do with my time than to unravel the hidden intentions of some egocentric.
Like contemplating why I'm interested in
how thongs and diapers interact? :laugh:
You're an egocentric? Don't flatter yourself: you're just a measly bum.
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I just did. Perhaps you're too fucking warped in your own world, sucking your widdle thumb while crying out for your mother's warmth, to pay any attention.
Reread my post more carefully...
No thanks; I have better things to do with my time than to unravel the hidden intentions of some egocentric.
How is your freedom form Lucifer been going so far peegai...?
Why do you seem to have such a problem with people being friends? Just because he knows her and likes her it doesn't make him her lapdog.
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Freedom form? What the fuck are you on, Hadron?
"I abstain from using the standard syntax of the modern version of the English language for I am the almighty :penis:!"
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I just did. Perhaps you're too fucking warped in your own world, sucking your widdle thumb while crying out for your mother's warmth, to pay any attention.
Reread my post more carefully...
No thanks; I have better things to do with my time than to unravel the hidden intentions of some egocentric.
How is your freedom form Lucifer been going so far peegai...?
Why do you seem to have such a problem with people being friends? Just because he knows her and likes her it doesn't make him her lapdog.
I dont have an opposition whatsoever to people being friends, but Peegai just bums Lucifer to hell, and she pampered him for it.
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Freedom form? What the fuck are you on, Hadron?
"I abstain from using the standard syntax of the modern version of the English language for I am :penis:!"
Its called a transpostion error when typing, because I couldnt really be bothered to pay special attention when typing a reply about you.
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I just did. Perhaps you're too fucking warped in your own world, sucking your widdle thumb while crying out for your mother's warmth, to pay any attention.
Reread my post more carefully...
No thanks; I have better things to do with my time than to unravel the hidden intentions of some egocentric.
How is your freedom form Lucifer been going so far peegai...?
Why do you seem to have such a problem with people being friends? Just because he knows her and likes her it doesn't make him her lapdog.
I'm waiting for him to close this place down. However, it seems that I'm placing too much faith on an egocentric fuckwit sprouting his false bravado on the interweb.
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Peegai is lucifers little lapdog, and he is in a mardy because her master has gone. As for being intelligent, yes I sometimes like to apply it, but i dont massively need everyone to know it. What matters is I know how intelligent i am, you would be surprised how helpful being underestimated can be.
Eh you try to say it all the damn time, not apply it. By telling people in not so obvious ways that you are intelligent, you basically debunk your own intelligence in a way. The way you post doesn't make people underestimate you at all, it makes them think you are full of yourself.
I am sometimes underestimated in real life, it comes easily when you don't even talk to people. It depends on the person and whether they assume the worst or best about a person without even knowing them. They have very little to go on to decide whether I am intelligent or anything else they could estimate about me. You can underestimate more than just a person's intelligence of course. It has helped me in the few serious physical fights I have been in much more than any argument on the internet could.
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Peegai is lucifers little lapdog, and he is in a mardy because her master has gone. As for being intelligent, yes I sometimes like to apply it, but i dont massively need everyone to know it. What matters is I know how intelligent i am, you would be surprised how helpful being underestimated can be.
Eh you try to say it all the damn time, not apply it. By telling people in not so obvious ways that you are intelligent, you basically debunk your own intelligence in a way. The way you post doesn't make people underestimate you at all, it makes them think you are full of yourself.
I am sometimes underestimated in real life, it comes easily when you don't even talk to people. It depends on the person and whether they assume the worst or best about a person without even knowing them. They have very little to go on to decide whether I am intelligent or anything else they could estimate about me. You can underestimate more than just a person's intelligence of course. It has helped me in the few serious physical fights I have been in much more than any argument on the internet could.
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Maybe the way i appear to debunk my intelligence has purpose. Think about it. As for people underestimating me, it can be a spectacular mistake on their part...
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I dont have an opposition whatsoever to people being friends, but Peegai just bums Lucifer to hell, and she pampered him for it.
mummy's gone, little one. and jealousy will get you nowhere.
here, have this :-*. feel better now?
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You open your mouth a good deal Hadron. Tons of posts that seem to do nothing but make people think you are an arrogant jerkoff. Peegai obviously sees the majority of your posts as bullshit.
I just think you want people to know you are intelligent, which makes it too much of an endeavour for people to actually like you. The people who like you appreciate arrogant jerks, or are jerks themselves and relate to you. Then there are your fellow arrogant jerkoffs who are probably hypocritical in their hatred of you.
Peegai is lucifers little lapdog, and he is in a mardy because her master has gone. As for being intelligent, yes I sometimes like to apply it, but i dont massively need everyone to know it. What matters is I know how intelligent i am, you would be surprised how helpful being underestimated can be.
That is not true. Being friends with someone does not make either of them the other's lapdog.
I understand well the positives and negatives of having one's intelligence underestimated.
This is what I don't understand. You value your privacy and I completely respect this. Why do you not understand why other people would value their privacy just as much as you do?
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Because he's a hypocrite. Though most of all he's an ASS.
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I just did. Perhaps you're too fucking warped in your own world, sucking your widdle thumb while crying out for your mother's warmth, to pay any attention.
Reread my post more carefully...
No thanks; I have better things to do with my time than to unravel the hidden intentions of some egocentric.
Like contemplating why I'm interested in
how thongs and diapers interact? :laugh:
You're an egocentric? Don't flatter yourself: you're just a measly bum.
Not at all. That would imply that the world did NOT revolve around
me. Plus, I take what guise I desire.
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I just did. Perhaps you're too fucking warped in your own world, sucking your widdle thumb while crying out for your mother's warmth, to pay any attention.
Reread my post more carefully...
No thanks; I have better things to do with my time than to unravel the hidden intentions of some egocentric.
Like contemplating why I'm interested in
how thongs and diapers interact? :laugh:
You're an egocentric? Don't flatter yourself: you're just a measly bum.
Not at all. That would imply that the world did NOT revolve around
me. Plus, I take what guise I desire.
I suppose it helps to distract you from the harsh reality that you're a fool and you live under the shadow of your father, who's an acclaimed teacher, for the rest of your golden years, old man.
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I dont have an opposition whatsoever to people being friends, but Peegai just bums Lucifer to hell, and she pampered him for it.
mummy's gone, little one. and jealousy will get you nowhere.
here, have this :-*. feel better now?
lol, you think I am jealous of peegai....? have you lost it lucifer!?
You open your mouth a good deal Hadron. Tons of posts that seem to do nothing but make people think you are an arrogant jerkoff. Peegai obviously sees the majority of your posts as bullshit.
I just think you want people to know you are intelligent, which makes it too much of an endeavour for people to actually like you. The people who like you appreciate arrogant jerks, or are jerks themselves and relate to you. Then there are your fellow arrogant jerkoffs who are probably hypocritical in their hatred of you.
Peegai is lucifers little lapdog, and he is in a mardy because her master has gone. As for being intelligent, yes I sometimes like to apply it, but i dont massively need everyone to know it. What matters is I know how intelligent i am, you would be surprised how helpful being underestimated can be.
That is not true. Being friends with someone does not make either of them the other's lapdog.
I understand well the positives and negatives of having one's intelligence underestimated.
This is what I don't understand. You value your privacy and I completely respect this. Why do you not understand why other people would value their privacy just as much as you do?
True being friends with people doesnt make lapdogging occur, but if you look at the way peegai unswervingly sticks up for lucifer all the time it makes you wonder..
I do value my privacy, but then i dont taunt people with little things and then clam up when it crosses invisible lines.
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I suppose it helps to distract you from the harsh reality that you're a fool and you live under the shadow of your father, who's an acclaimed teacher, for the rest of your golden years, old man.
less of the old, junior. :P
:laugh:
I dont have an opposition whatsoever to people being friends, but Peegai just bums Lucifer to hell, and she pampered him for it.
mummy's gone, little one. and jealousy will get you nowhere.
here, have this :-*. feel better now?
lol, you think I am jealous of peegai....? have you lost it lucifer!?
er, no. it's something known as A Joke. ::)
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Ja, Lucifer, mein fuhrer.
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I suppose it helps to distract you from the harsh reality that you're a fool and you live under the shadow of your father, who's an acclaimed teacher, for the rest of your golden years, old man.
I don't need distraction from the fact that I am a fool.
As to the shadow of my father, I wouldn't trade my
life for his. He is certainly not a particularly good
teacher (though better than I). But, he's lived
less, in some ways, I think. We make our choices.
My FEAR is that I'll end up having to live such a
life.
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I just did. Perhaps you're too fucking warped in your own world, sucking your widdle thumb while crying out for your mother's warmth, to pay any attention.
Reread my post more carefully...
No thanks; I have better things to do with my time than to unravel the hidden intentions of some egocentric.
Like contemplating why I'm interested in
how thongs and diapers interact? :laugh:
You're an egocentric? Don't flatter yourself: you're just a measly bum.
Not at all. That would imply that the world did NOT revolve around
me. Plus, I take what guise I desire.
I suppose it helps to distract you from the harsh reality that you're a fool and you live under the shadow of your father, who's an acclaimed teacher, for the rest of your golden years, old man.
That was just an uncalled for low blow peegai. I wonder what you have amounted to so far...
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You do know you can always comment on her video Hadron on the site. Just write in your comment how you feel about her video and your concern on what impression it give NTs about autism.
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Not much, Hardon. But don't worry on my account. I'm sure that my humble ways beats living a life of pure arrogance; it is they who always fall the hardest.
I love being a nobody.
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i dont taunt people with little things and then clam up when it crosses invisible lines.
sigh... seeing as how you seem to have some sort of hard on to find out all about me... ::)
the comment about "saving your life" was to do with the fact that i helped develop the test used to screen blood donors for HIV antibodies. if you've been given blood or blood products, then they're free from the risk of HIV infection, due, in part, to my work. if you haven't, then that's why i said "possibly".
i do so hope that's relieved your obsession, and you can ejaculate in peace and get rid of your obvious blue balls over the subject. ::)
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You do know you can always comment on her video Hadron on the site. Just write in your comment how you feel about her video and your concern on what impression it give NTs about autism.
That would be the obvious thing to do I agree- but I get the feeling he has far more fun nit picking with people on here ::)
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Not much, Hardon. But don't worry on my account. I'm sure that my humble ways beats living a life of pure arrogance -- it is they who fall the hardest.
I love being a nobody.
But, one CAN be an arrogant nobody.
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Not much, Hardon. But don't worry on my account. I'm sure that my humble ways beats living a life of pure arrogance -- it is they who fall the hardest.
I love being a nobody.
But, one CAN be an arrogant nobody.
Wife beaters, drunkards, your boss, psychology students, premature "undergrad syndrome" sufferers? Why, certainly.
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I dont have an opposition whatsoever to people being friends, but Peegai just bums Lucifer to hell, and she pampered him for it.
mummy's gone, little one. and jealousy will get you nowhere.
here, have this :-*. feel better now?
lol, you think I am jealous of peegai....? have you lost it lucifer!?
You open your mouth a good deal Hadron. Tons of posts that seem to do nothing but make people think you are an arrogant jerkoff. Peegai obviously sees the majority of your posts as bullshit.
I just think you want people to know you are intelligent, which makes it too much of an endeavour for people to actually like you. The people who like you appreciate arrogant jerks, or are jerks themselves and relate to you. Then there are your fellow arrogant jerkoffs who are probably hypocritical in their hatred of you.
Peegai is lucifers little lapdog, and he is in a mardy because her master has gone. As for being intelligent, yes I sometimes like to apply it, but i dont massively need everyone to know it. What matters is I know how intelligent i am, you would be surprised how helpful being underestimated can be.
That is not true. Being friends with someone does not make either of them the other's lapdog.
I understand well the positives and negatives of having one's intelligence underestimated.
This is what I don't understand. You value your privacy and I completely respect this. Why do you not understand why other people would value their privacy just as much as you do?
True being friends with people doesnt make lapdogging occur, but if you look at the way peegai unswervingly sticks up for lucifer all the time it makes you wonder..
I do value my privacy, but then i dont taunt people with little things and then clam up when it crosses invisible lines.
But you probably do, from some people's points-of-view. I probably do too, even though I don't intend to. I have certain things about myself I feel the need to keep private, and I feel very uncomfortable talking about them.
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Ja, Lucifer, mein fuhrer.
:laugh:
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Not much, Hardon. But don't worry on my account. I'm sure that my humble ways beats living a life of pure arrogance; it is they who always fall the hardest.
I love being a nobody.
Which is why I am very careful, and the chances of me falling are slim. At least I have somewhere to fall from.
i dont taunt people with little things and then clam up when it crosses invisible lines.
sigh... seeing as how you seem to have some sort of hard on to find out all about me... ::)
the comment about "saving your life" was to do with the fact that i helped develop the test used to screen blood donors for HIV antibodies. if you've been given blood or blood products, then they're free from the risk of HIV infection, due, in part, to my work. if you haven't, then that's why i said "possibly".
i do so hope that's relieved your obsession, and you can ejaculate in peace and get rid of your obvious blue balls over the subject. ::)
I wouldnt say there was any obssesion whatsoever on my part, I just dont like your arguement style, if you cant evidence something then please avoid it. You do seem like one of those academics who like to flick around the different areas though....
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Not much, Hardon. But don't worry on my account. I'm sure that my humble ways beats living a life of pure arrogance; it is they who always fall the hardest.
I love being a nobody.
Which is why I am very careful, and the chances of me falling are slim. At least I have somewhere to fall from.
Woo, yay, Maths. I'm really at shit creek now.
Ask me that again when you're successful at 30. Right now, you're a nobody with a complex.
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Not much, Hardon. But don't worry on my account. I'm sure that my humble ways beats living a life of pure arrogance; it is they who always fall the hardest.
I love being a nobody.
Which is why I am very careful, and the chances of me falling are slim. At least I have somewhere to fall from.
Woo, yay, Maths. I'm really at shit creek now.
Ask me that again when you're successful at 30. Right now, you're a nobody with a complex.
We shall see, in fact i intend to succeed before that in some way. As for me being nobody with a complex, i think I could probably argue that I have achieved more than you.
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Not much, Hardon. But don't worry on my account. I'm sure that my humble ways beats living a life of pure arrogance; it is they who always fall the hardest.
I love being a nobody.
Which is why I am very careful, and the chances of me falling are slim. At least I have somewhere to fall from.
Woo, yay, Maths. I'm really at shit creek now.
Ask me that again when you're successful at 30. Right now, you're a nobody with a complex.
We shall see, in fact i intend to succeed before that in some way. As for me being nobody with a complex, i think I could probably argue that I have achieved more than you.
Like what? Something that interests me? Something that I actually give a damn about? I'm content with my own personal successes, and I don't need some snot-nosed whelp like yourself to suggest to me otherwise.
How do you deal with the harsh reality that there are always going to be people far better than you such as the residents dwelling on this 'ere board?
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Not much, Hardon. But don't worry on my account. I'm sure that my humble ways beats living a life of pure arrogance; it is they who always fall the hardest.
I love being a nobody.
Which is why I am very careful, and the chances of me falling are slim. At least I have somewhere to fall from.
Woo, yay, Maths. I'm really at shit creek now.
Ask me that again when you're successful at 30. Right now, you're a nobody with a complex.
We shall see, in fact i intend to succeed before that in some way. As for me being nobody with a complex, i think I could probably argue that I have achieved more than you.
Like what? Something that interests me? Something that I actually give a damn about? I'm content with my own personal successes, and I don't need some snot-nosed whelp like yourself to suggest to me otherwise.
How do you deal with the harsh reality that there are always going to be people far better than you such as the residents dwelling on this 'ere board?
Very simple, your harsh reality doesnt really exist. It depends how you look at better. And dont tell me you are happy with your personal successes, that just makes you a liar.
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How do you know? Can you read my mind via the computer screen? Oh my! Can you do an ollie with your imaginary skateboard? Doubt that.
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People can be content with even the most mediocre of existences. I know sometimes I feel that I have no goals or aspirations myself. Everything in life becomes meaningless but the here and now.
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How do you know? Can you read my mind via the computer screen? Oh my! Can you do an ollie with your imaginary skateboard? Doubt that.
Spent enough time reading about psychology to have most people figured out to a reasonable degree. You would be surprised how much what can be figured from what you say and your style of posting.
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Armchair psychology. Go figure.
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How do you deal with the harsh reality that there are always going to be people far better than you such as the residents dwelling on this 'ere board?
Though not for me, I like this question,
and wish to answer it. Because it was
a terrible realization when the time came
that I saw I'd not be anything all that impressive.
One lowers their hopes. That's why I went to
grad school.
As to those on this board, I've not seen any signs
that there is anything fundamentally that impressive
about any of us. Kinda makes sense. Someone doing
something REALLY impressive simply wouldn't have the
time to postwhore.
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People can be content with even the most mediocre of existences. I know sometimes I feel that I have no goals or aspirations myself. Everything in life becomes meaningless but the here and now.
Humans, maybe. I can't. Makes me sick.
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Armchair psychology. Go figure.
Believe it or not it is surprisingly successful.
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Armchair psychology. Go figure.
Believe it or not it is surprisingly successful.
obviously not, in your case - you've missed me by a light year or two.
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Armchair psychology. Go figure.
Believe it or not it is surprisingly successful.
obviously not, in your case - you've missed me by a light year or two.
Or maybe I know, and was just testing ideas. I have enough information to find all about you with a short trawl of the internet, surprisingly i cannot be bothered to do so.
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People can be content with even the most mediocre of existences. I know sometimes I feel that I have no goals or aspirations myself. Everything in life becomes meaningless but the here and now.
Humans, maybe. I can't. Makes me sick.
I can't either, being content with my life sucking would get me more depressed. Me being too lazy to do something significant enough to change things is a different subject entirely. I have dreams and aspirations, but they go away when I am really depressed due to examining how I live my life.
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Armchair psychology. Go figure.
Believe it or not it is surprisingly successful.
obviously not, in your case - you've missed me by a light year or two.
Or maybe I know, and was just testing ideas. I have enough information to find all about you with a short trawl of the internet, surprisingly i cannot be bothered to do so.
bollocks, have you. a case of what you accused me of doing, n'est-ce pas? as in, making grandiose claims. if you could have done so, you would - you've already shown you fucked up, by suggesting i'm at Bristol. the southwest doesn't end at bristol, dur, in case that helps.
put your money where your arse mouth is, and find out, then PM me with the info. if you're right, i'll tell you.
oh, but you'd better clarify exactly what you're suggesting you can find out - are we talking names? addresses? positions at uni? previous research history? publications? academic record? employment history? inside leg measurement? date of last period? what?
but don't worry - if you want to bottle out, i won't think any the less of you.
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Armchair psychology. Go figure.
Believe it or not it is surprisingly successful.
obviously not, in your case - you've missed me by a light year or two.
Or maybe I know, and was just testing ideas. I have enough information to find all about you with a short trawl of the internet, surprisingly i cannot be bothered to do so.
bollocks, have you. a case of what you accused me of doing, n'est-ce pas? as in, making grandiose claims. if you could have done so, you would - you've already shown you fucked up, by suggesting i'm at Bristol. the southwest doesn't end at bristol, dur, in case that helps.
put your money where your arse mouth is, and find out, then PM me with the info. if you're right, i'll tell you.
oh, but you'd better clarify exactly what you're suggesting you can find out - are we talking names? addresses? positions at uni? previous research history? publications? academic record? employment history? inside leg measurement? date of last period? what?
but don't worry - if you want to bottle out, i won't think any the less of you.
No, actaully i was trying to find out the lifestyles of academic aspies. Just as i might end up on that track, so i wanted to see future problems and avoid them before they happen. I have the answers I am looking for. If i get really bored i could track you down, but i think that would just freak you out. And I dont really want to know.
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yay! just as i suspected - bottle job!
you're so predictable, young 'un.
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yay! just as i suspected - bottle job!
you're so predictable, young 'un.
Seriously, what would you do if i actually found you. My guess is you would utterly shit yourself, and probably lie even if i get the right answer. Wouldnt me actually doing it be a step too far. You didnt figure out my reason for playing games though, did you?
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You have Insufferable Knowitall Syndrome?
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yay! just as i suspected - bottle job!
you're so predictable, young 'un.
Seriously, what would you do if i actually found you.
i'd be impressed. i've tried to do it, and i can't find myself.
My guess is you would utterly shit yourself, and probably lie even if i get the right answer.
wrong and wrong. why would i want to do either?
Wouldnt me actually doing it be a step too far.
why suggest it, then? bottle job.
You didnt figure out my reason for playing games though, did you?
procrastination. bottle job.
i'll just add "coward" to your list of "attributes", shall i?
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You have Insufferable Knowitall Syndrome?
ooooh, careful, dunc - you wouldn't want to start questioning his dx and killing the thread, not now it's started to get interesting. :laugh:
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yay! just as i suspected - bottle job!
you're so predictable, young 'un.
Seriously, what would you do if i actually found you.
i'd be impressed. i've tried to do it, and i can't find myself.
My guess is you would utterly shit yourself, and probably lie even if i get the right answer.
wrong and wrong. why would i want to do either?
Wouldnt me actually doing it be a step too far.
why suggest it, then? bottle job.
You didnt figure out my reason for playing games though, did you?
procrastination. bottle job.
i'll just add "coward" to your list of "attributes", shall i?
If you think so little of me why do you try to pan me in arguements. Surely you would like to have a fair fight with someone. Either you secretly respect me a little or you are an out and out bully. Which is it going to be?
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You have Insufferable Knowitall Syndrome?
ooooh, careful, dunc - you wouldn't want to start questioning his dx and killing the thread, not now it's started to get interesting. :laugh:
I must have blinked and missed the interesting bit. :P
I tried to kill it a few pages back, but it rose from the dead.
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yay! just as i suspected - bottle job!
you're so predictable, young 'un.
Seriously, what would you do if i actually found you.
i'd be impressed. i've tried to do it, and i can't find myself.
My guess is you would utterly shit yourself, and probably lie even if i get the right answer.
wrong and wrong. why would i want to do either?
Wouldnt me actually doing it be a step too far.
why suggest it, then? bottle job.
You didnt figure out my reason for playing games though, did you?
procrastination. bottle job.
i'll just add "coward" to your list of "attributes", shall i?
If you think so little of me why do you try to pan me in arguements. Surely you would like to have a fair fight with someone. Either you secretly respect me a little or you are an out and out bully. Which is it going to be?
neither. this is Intensity. you get called on your words. get used to it, noob.
and you're still trying to squirm out of your bottle job. nice try, but no cigar.
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yay! just as i suspected - bottle job!
you're so predictable, young 'un.
Seriously, what would you do if i actually found you.
i'd be impressed. i've tried to do it, and i can't find myself.
My guess is you would utterly shit yourself, and probably lie even if i get the right answer.
wrong and wrong. why would i want to do either?
Wouldnt me actually doing it be a step too far.
why suggest it, then? bottle job.
You didnt figure out my reason for playing games though, did you?
procrastination. bottle job.
i'll just add "coward" to your list of "attributes", shall i?
If you think so little of me why do you try to pan me in arguements. Surely you would like to have a fair fight with someone. Either you secretly respect me a little or you are an out and out bully. Which is it going to be?
neither. this is Intensity. you get called on your words. get used to it, noob.
and you're still trying to squirm out of your bottle job. nice try, but no cigar.
Of course i get called on my words, but it seems to be you and your lapdog percisitently doing it. You have another motive, and you seem to get off on beating 18 year olds in arguements. I am going to assume you are a bully unless you give me an alterior motive.
As for the bottle job, i could find you, it takes lots of effort, and then of course then there are legal risks in me doing so. It would be possible however.
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So, once again, you are treating the people here like lab rats, Pyraxis?
Yes.
And sometimes I honestly don't understand why it would bother people. Doesn't it feel better to know what my intentions are instead of having to guess whether I'm playing some kind of hidden meanings game? I genuinely like people here, or I wouldn't hang around. To me it seems like a sign of respect to explain myself instead of leaving the people I've argued with to think I have some kind of personal grudge against them.
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You have Insufferable Knowitall Syndrome?
Don't they offer Humility Suppositories for that, somewhere?
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So, once again, you are treating the people here like lab rats, Pyraxis?
Yes.
And sometimes I honestly don't understand why it would bother people. Doesn't it feel better to know what my intentions are instead of having to guess whether I'm playing some kind of hidden meanings game? I genuinely like people here, or I wouldn't hang around. To me it seems like a sign of respect to explain myself instead of leaving the people I've argued with to think I have some kind of personal grudge against them.
Not really, but the biggest problem I see, is that the wholessale knowledge alters your findings.
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You have Insufferable Knowitall Syndrome?
Don't they offer Humility Suppositories for that, somewhere?
:evillaugh: :plus:
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yay! just as i suspected - bottle job!
you're so predictable, young 'un.
Seriously, what would you do if i actually found you.
i'd be impressed. i've tried to do it, and i can't find myself.
My guess is you would utterly shit yourself, and probably lie even if i get the right answer.
wrong and wrong. why would i want to do either?
Wouldnt me actually doing it be a step too far.
why suggest it, then? bottle job.
You didnt figure out my reason for playing games though, did you?
procrastination. bottle job.
i'll just add "coward" to your list of "attributes", shall i?
If you think so little of me why do you try to pan me in arguements. Surely you would like to have a fair fight with someone. Either you secretly respect me a little or you are an out and out bully. Which is it going to be?
neither. this is Intensity. you get called on your words. get used to it, noob.
and you're still trying to squirm out of your bottle job. nice try, but no cigar.
Of course i get called on my words, but it seems to be you and your lapdog percisitently doing it. You have another motive, and you seem to get off on beating 18 year olds in arguements. I am going to assume you are a bully unless you give me an alterior motive.
As for the bottle job, i could find you, it takes lots of effort, and then of course then there are legal risks in me doing so. It would be possible however.
why are you playing the age card, when you were so scathing about what you saw as me doing that?
the word is "Ulterior".
it'd take lots of effort? i quote:
Or maybe I know, and was just testing ideas. I have enough information to find all about you with a short trawl of the internet
from about an hour and 20 mins ago. (ref: http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?topic=4757.msg219706#msg219706 )
legal risks? :LMAO: oh, the excuses are coming thick and fast, now. bottle job.
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just gheyed me, eh? pathetic. ::)
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To me it seems like a sign of respect to explain myself instead of leaving the people I've argued with to think I have some kind of personal grudge against them.
Not really, but the biggest problem I see, is that the wholessale knowledge alters your findings.
Fair point. I guess my hope (apparently as many light-years off target as Hadron's analysis of Lucifer) was that people would respond well to it and it would help my cause. But instead I'm doing a good job of alienating the people who believe in honesty.
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yay! just as i suspected - bottle job!
you're so predictable, young 'un.
Seriously, what would you do if i actually found you.
i'd be impressed. i've tried to do it, and i can't find myself.
My guess is you would utterly shit yourself, and probably lie even if i get the right answer.
wrong and wrong. why would i want to do either?
Wouldnt me actually doing it be a step too far.
why suggest it, then? bottle job.
You didnt figure out my reason for playing games though, did you?
procrastination. bottle job.
i'll just add "coward" to your list of "attributes", shall i?
If you think so little of me why do you try to pan me in arguements. Surely you would like to have a fair fight with someone. Either you secretly respect me a little or you are an out and out bully. Which is it going to be?
neither. this is Intensity. you get called on your words. get used to it, noob.
and you're still trying to squirm out of your bottle job. nice try, but no cigar.
Of course i get called on my words, but it seems to be you and your lapdog percisitently doing it. You have another motive, and you seem to get off on beating 18 year olds in arguements. I am going to assume you are a bully unless you give me an alterior motive.
As for the bottle job, i could find you, it takes lots of effort, and then of course then there are legal risks in me doing so. It would be possible however.
why are you playing the age card, when you were so scathing about what you saw as me doing that?
the word is "Ulterior".
it'd take lots of effort? i quote:
Or maybe I know, and was just testing ideas. I have enough information to find all about you with a short trawl of the internet
from about an hour and 20 mins ago. (ref: http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?topic=4757.msg219706#msg219706 )
legal risks? :LMAO: oh, the excuses are coming thick and fast, now. bottle job.
Apart from you could technically do me for harrassment if i found you out to the level of depth you are expecting me to do, i would be safe legally
As for the age card, i am just arguing from your perspective, if thats how you view me then it is an important part of the arguement dont you think.
On the matter of the quote, it takes a quick trawl if you have the right tools, but i dont have anything specialist to hand. So it would take longer for me to do some of the stuff by hand, that a specialist bit of a equipment could do for me.
And you are still a bully, i see you couldnt counter that one. Your post misses the post. And again, it wasnt me who gheyed you.
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You have Insufferable Knowitall Syndrome?
Don't they offer Humility Suppositories for that, somewhere?
:evillaugh: :plus:
Thanks, but you're the funniest man alive. I just skip rocks across your pond.
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Apart from you could technically do me for harrassment if i found you out to the level of depth you are expecting me to do, i would be safe legally
then why bring up the legal reasons as an excuse? bottle job.
As for the age card, i am just arguing from your perspective, if thats how you view me then it is an important part of the arguement dont you think.
nope. there are plenty of people your age who can put together an argument without bottling out.
On the matter of the quote, it takes a quick trawl if you have the right tools, but i dont have anything specialist to hand. So it would take longer for me to do some of the stuff by hand, that a specialist bit of a equipment could do for me.
fuckme - can you backpedal any faster? your legs must be a blur.
And you are still a bully, i see you couldnt counter that one. Your post misses the post. And again, it wasnt me who gheyed you.
you feel bullied? shame - i haven't even tried to bully you yet. calling for mummy again?
bottle job.
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Apart from you could technically do me for harrassment if i found you out to the level of depth you are expecting me to do, i would be safe legally
then why bring up the legal reasons as an excuse? bottle job.
As for the age card, i am just arguing from your perspective, if thats how you view me then it is an important part of the arguement dont you think.
nope. there are plenty of people your age who can put together an argument without bottling out.
On the matter of the quote, it takes a quick trawl if you have the right tools, but i dont have anything specialist to hand. So it would take longer for me to do some of the stuff by hand, that a specialist bit of a equipment could do for me.
fuckme - can you backpedal any faster? your legs must be a blur.
And you are still a bully, i see you couldnt counter that one. Your post misses the post. And again, it wasnt me who gheyed you.
you feel bullied? shame - i haven't even tried to bully you yet. calling for mummy again?
bottle job.
Oh i dont feel bullied, surprisingly i havent turned my tail and ran yet. But what you seem to do to others on this forum is pretty low, like attacking someone like richard in that way. if you want a fair fight with someone why dont you just challenge myself or calandale in open one on one debate. The point is you seem to think so low of me, but yet you are taking me on. That technically makes you a bully. Unless you address that, then i am going to have to assume you are a bully. End of unless you properly adress my point.
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yay! just as i suspected - bottle job!
you're so predictable, young 'un.
Seriously, what would you do if i actually found you.
i'd be impressed. i've tried to do it, and i can't find myself.
My guess is you would utterly shit yourself, and probably lie even if i get the right answer.
wrong and wrong. why would i want to do either?
Wouldnt me actually doing it be a step too far.
why suggest it, then? bottle job.
You didnt figure out my reason for playing games though, did you?
procrastination. bottle job.
i'll just add "coward" to your list of "attributes", shall i?
If you think so little of me why do you try to pan me in arguements. Surely you would like to have a fair fight with someone. Either you secretly respect me a little or you are an out and out bully. Which is it going to be?
neither. this is Intensity. you get called on your words. get used to it, noob.
and you're still trying to squirm out of your bottle job. nice try, but no cigar.
Of course i get called on my words, but it seems to be you and your lapdog percisitently doing it. You have another motive, and you seem to get off on beating 18 year olds in arguements. I am going to assume you are a bully unless you give me an alterior motive.
As for the bottle job, i could find you, it takes lots of effort, and then of course then there are legal risks in me doing so. It would be possible however.
why are you playing the age card, when you were so scathing about what you saw as me doing that?
the word is "Ulterior".
it'd take lots of effort? i quote:
Or maybe I know, and was just testing ideas. I have enough information to find all about you with a short trawl of the internet
from about an hour and 20 mins ago. (ref: http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?topic=4757.msg219706#msg219706 )
legal risks? :LMAO: oh, the excuses are coming thick and fast, now. bottle job.
Apart from you could technically do me for harrassment if i found you out to the level of depth you are expecting me to do, i would be safe legally
As for the age card, i am just arguing from your perspective, if thats how you view me then it is an important part of the arguement dont you think.
On the matter of the quote, it takes a quick trawl if you have the right tools, but i dont have anything specialist to hand. So it would take longer for me to do some of the stuff by hand, that a specialist bit of a equipment could do for me.
And you are still a bully, i see you couldnt counter that one. Your post misses the post. And again, it wasnt me who gheyed you.
Let me give it a shot. Why do you consistently bring her or her name up. She has done nothing but tell you to leave her the fuck alone but you can't let that be.
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Oh i dont feel bullied,
what tosh - you're calling me a bully, and bringing in richard at this point is utterly pathetic, as well as irrelevant. he goaded me, i responded, he legged it like a bastard. hardly me being a bully, if he (or you) can't take what he dishes out. ::)
surprisingly i havent turned my tail and ran yet.
why surprisingly?
if you want a fair fight with someone why dont you just challenge myself or calandale in open one on one debate.
i don't. i'm responding to you. and what's calandale got to do with it?
The point is you seem to think so low of me, but yet you are taking me on. That technically makes you a bully.
er, care to share your convoluted logic, there?
Unless you address that, then i am going to have to assume you are a bully. End of unless you properly adress my point.
assume what you want. you seem to think i'd care, although fuck knows why, as i've been very clear about that. you want me to refute your accusation of my being a bully? read my posts, then. ::)
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Let me give it a shot. Why do you consistently bring her or her name up. She has done nothing but tell you to leave her the fuck alone but you can't let that be.
i'm glad someone else noticed, cos hardon doesn't seem to have. i started to wonder if i'd imagined saying that (several times...) ::)
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Oh i dont feel bullied,
what tosh - you're calling me a bully, and bringing in richard at this point is utterly pathetic, as well as irrelevant. he goaded me, i responded, he legged it like a bastard. hardly me being a bully, if he (or you) can't take what he dishes out. ::)
surprisingly i havent turned my tail and ran yet.
why surprisingly?
if you want a fair fight with someone why dont you just challenge myself or calandale in open one on one debate.
i don't. i'm responding to you. and what's calandale got to do with it?
The point is you seem to think so low of me, but yet you are taking me on. That technically makes you a bully.
er, care to share your convoluted logic, there?
Unless you address that, then i am going to have to assume you are a bully. End of unless you properly adress my point.
assume what you want. you seem to think i'd care, although fuck knows why, as i've been very clear about that. you want me to refute your accusation of my being a bully? read my posts, then. ::)
Oh, taking on someone who claims to have an IQ of around 85 is not pathetic (i skimmed a few threads before i came here), then i really dont know what is. There was very different ways you could have handled the situation. Why do that to him.
Calandale would be a fair fight, as would be myself if you dont keep playing guerilla with your arguements.
I would say your behavior fits this definition nicely "In colloquial speech, bullying often describes a form of harassment perpetrated by an abuser who possesses more physical and/or social power and dominance than the victim. The victim of bullying is sometimes referred to as a target. The harassment can be verbal, physical and/or emotional." You certianly believe you are better than your targets dont you. As for reading my posts, they seem to be well presented absences of answers, rather than something meaningful.
As for you wanting me to go away, as tesla raised, why turn up and attack me on a thread if you dont want to deal with me. Which way are you going to have it?
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Oh i dont feel bullied,
what tosh - you're calling me a bully, and bringing in richard at this point is utterly pathetic, as well as irrelevant. he goaded me, i responded, he legged it like a bastard. hardly me being a bully, if he (or you) can't take what he dishes out. ::)
surprisingly i havent turned my tail and ran yet.
why surprisingly?
if you want a fair fight with someone why dont you just challenge myself or calandale in open one on one debate.
i don't. i'm responding to you. and what's calandale got to do with it?
The point is you seem to think so low of me, but yet you are taking me on. That technically makes you a bully.
er, care to share your convoluted logic, there?
Unless you address that, then i am going to have to assume you are a bully. End of unless you properly adress my point.
assume what you want. you seem to think i'd care, although fuck knows why, as i've been very clear about that. you want me to refute your accusation of my being a bully? read my posts, then. ::)
Oh, taking on someone who claims to have an IQ of around 85 is not pathetic (i skimmed a few threads before i came here), then i really dont know what is. There was very different ways you could have handled the situation. Why do that to him.
Calandale would be a fair fight, as would be myself if you dont keep playing guerilla with your arguements.
I would say your behavior fits this definition nicely "In colloquial speech, bullying often describes a form of harassment perpetrated by an abuser who possesses more physical and/or social power and dominance than the victim. The victim of bullying is sometimes referred to as a target. The harassment can be verbal, physical and/or emotional." You certianly believe you are better than your targets dont you. As for reading my posts, they seem to be well presented absences of answers, rather than something meaningful.
As for you wanting me to go away, as tesla raised, why turn up and attack me on a thread if you dont want to deal with me. Which way are you going to have it?
a) i was brought up not to be impolite. sadly, it's a habit i have difficulty shaking off.
b) again, sadly, i have this thing about trying to support people who are obviously going to make a complete bollocks up of their life, due to inappropriate behaviour, and i don't give up easily.
c) it's marginally better tham watching paint dry - if there was any excitement somewhere else on the board, you wouldn't get a look in.
so now i DO have more "social power/dominance" than you? sorry - i thought you said you were better than me, knew more about PR and politics than me, was superior in intelligence, etc., etc. shifting the goalposts is a sign of lack of argument. clever, but weak.
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Oh i dont feel bullied,
what tosh - you're calling me a bully, and bringing in richard at this point is utterly pathetic, as well as irrelevant. he goaded me, i responded, he legged it like a bastard. hardly me being a bully, if he (or you) can't take what he dishes out. ::)
surprisingly i havent turned my tail and ran yet.
why surprisingly?
if you want a fair fight with someone why dont you just challenge myself or calandale in open one on one debate.
i don't. i'm responding to you. and what's calandale got to do with it?
The point is you seem to think so low of me, but yet you are taking me on. That technically makes you a bully.
er, care to share your convoluted logic, there?
Unless you address that, then i am going to have to assume you are a bully. End of unless you properly adress my point.
assume what you want. you seem to think i'd care, although fuck knows why, as i've been very clear about that. you want me to refute your accusation of my being a bully? read my posts, then. ::)
Oh, taking on someone who claims to have an IQ of around 85 is not pathetic (i skimmed a few threads before i came here), then i really dont know what is. There was very different ways you could have handled the situation. Why do that to him.
Calandale would be a fair fight, as would be myself if you dont keep playing guerilla with your arguements.
I would say your behavior fits this definition nicely "In colloquial speech, bullying often describes a form of harassment perpetrated by an abuser who possesses more physical and/or social power and dominance than the victim. The victim of bullying is sometimes referred to as a target. The harassment can be verbal, physical and/or emotional." You certianly believe you are better than your targets dont you. As for reading my posts, they seem to be well presented absences of answers, rather than something meaningful.
As for you wanting me to go away, as tesla raised, why turn up and attack me on a thread if you dont want to deal with me. Which way are you going to have it?
a) i was brought up not to be impolite. sadly, it's a habit i have difficulty shaking off.
b) again, sadly, i have this thing about trying to support people who are obviously going to make a complete bollocks up of their life, due to inappropriate behaviour, and i don't give up easily.
c) it's marginally better tham watching paint dry - if there was any excitement somewhere else on the board, you wouldn't get a look in.
so now i DO have more "social power/dominance" than you? sorry - i thought you said you were better than me, knew more about PR and politics than me, was superior in intelligence, etc., etc. shifting the goalposts is a sign of lack of argument. clever, but weak.
You were brought up with a strange set of manners Lucifer. I hope they get you far.
Oh, who is this you are supporting. I thought you liked to demolish people. Supporting people on a bed of sharp thorns doesnt count.
If you were to take me on like this in person you would have absolutely no chance, i have a certain style that i cant convey on this board, but you would get whooped. Under the bully definition, on here you have more social power than me, and seem to like applying it. That makes you fit my definition without moving the goal posts at all. Nice try to avoid this. What does it say about you though if i am the best source of entertainment on the forum. I do love the way you take a load of stuff i have said out of context though...
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If you were to take me on like this in person you would have absolutely no chance, i have a certain style that i cant convey on this board, but you would get whooped.
you're on - try me. come and pay me a visit, why don't you?
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If you were to take me on like this in person you would have absolutely no chance, i have a certain style that i cant convey on this board, but you would get whooped.
you're on - try me. come and pay me a visit, why don't you?
i dont think your intresting enough to merit the journey...
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Oh i dont feel bullied,
what tosh - you're calling me a bully, and bringing in richard at this point is utterly pathetic, as well as irrelevant. he goaded me, i responded, he legged it like a bastard. hardly me being a bully, if he (or you) can't take what he dishes out. ::)
surprisingly i havent turned my tail and ran yet.
why surprisingly?
if you want a fair fight with someone why dont you just challenge myself or calandale in open one on one debate.
i don't. i'm responding to you. and what's calandale got to do with it?
The point is you seem to think so low of me, but yet you are taking me on. That technically makes you a bully.
er, care to share your convoluted logic, there?
Unless you address that, then i am going to have to assume you are a bully. End of unless you properly adress my point.
assume what you want. you seem to think i'd care, although fuck knows why, as i've been very clear about that. you want me to refute your accusation of my being a bully? read my posts, then. ::)
Oh, taking on someone who claims to have an IQ of around 85 is not pathetic (i skimmed a few threads before i came here), then i really dont know what is. There was very different ways you could have handled the situation. Why do that to him.
Calandale would be a fair fight, as would be myself if you dont keep playing guerilla with your arguements.
I would say your behavior fits this definition nicely "In colloquial speech, bullying often describes a form of harassment perpetrated by an abuser who possesses more physical and/or social power and dominance than the victim. The victim of bullying is sometimes referred to as a target. The harassment can be verbal, physical and/or emotional." You certianly believe you are better than your targets dont you. As for reading my posts, they seem to be well presented absences of answers, rather than something meaningful.
As for you wanting me to go away, as tesla raised, why turn up and attack me on a thread if you dont want to deal with me. Which way are you going to have it?
a) i was brought up not to be impolite. sadly, it's a habit i have difficulty shaking off.
b) again, sadly, i have this thing about trying to support people who are obviously going to make a complete bollocks up of their life, due to inappropriate behaviour, and i don't give up easily.
c) it's marginally better tham watching paint dry - if there was any excitement somewhere else on the board, you wouldn't get a look in.
so now i DO have more "social power/dominance" than you? sorry - i thought you said you were better than me, knew more about PR and politics than me, was superior in intelligence, etc., etc. shifting the goalposts is a sign of lack of argument. clever, but weak.
You were brought up with a strange set of manners Lucifer. I hope they get you far.
Oh, who is this you are supporting. I thought you liked to demolish people. Supporting people on a bed of sharp thorns doesnt count.
If you were to take me on like this in person you would have absolutely no chance, i have a certain style that i cant convey on this board, but you would get whooped. Under the bully definition, on here you have more social power than me, and seem to like applying it. That makes you fit my definition without moving the goal posts at all. Nice try to avoid this. What does it say about you though if i am the best source of entertainment on the forum. I do love the way you take a load of stuff i have said out of context though...
You say this ad nauseam. I have a suggestion, why don't you get off the computer and use your superpower of charisma elsewhere.
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Oh i dont feel bullied,
what tosh - you're calling me a bully, and bringing in richard at this point is utterly pathetic, as well as irrelevant. he goaded me, i responded, he legged it like a bastard. hardly me being a bully, if he (or you) can't take what he dishes out. ::)
surprisingly i havent turned my tail and ran yet.
why surprisingly?
if you want a fair fight with someone why dont you just challenge myself or calandale in open one on one debate.
i don't. i'm responding to you. and what's calandale got to do with it?
The point is you seem to think so low of me, but yet you are taking me on. That technically makes you a bully.
er, care to share your convoluted logic, there?
Unless you address that, then i am going to have to assume you are a bully. End of unless you properly adress my point.
assume what you want. you seem to think i'd care, although fuck knows why, as i've been very clear about that. you want me to refute your accusation of my being a bully? read my posts, then. ::)
Oh, taking on someone who claims to have an IQ of around 85 is not pathetic (i skimmed a few threads before i came here), then i really dont know what is. There was very different ways you could have handled the situation. Why do that to him.
Calandale would be a fair fight, as would be myself if you dont keep playing guerilla with your arguements.
I would say your behavior fits this definition nicely "In colloquial speech, bullying often describes a form of harassment perpetrated by an abuser who possesses more physical and/or social power and dominance than the victim. The victim of bullying is sometimes referred to as a target. The harassment can be verbal, physical and/or emotional." You certianly believe you are better than your targets dont you. As for reading my posts, they seem to be well presented absences of answers, rather than something meaningful.
As for you wanting me to go away, as tesla raised, why turn up and attack me on a thread if you dont want to deal with me. Which way are you going to have it?
a) i was brought up not to be impolite. sadly, it's a habit i have difficulty shaking off.
b) again, sadly, i have this thing about trying to support people who are obviously going to make a complete bollocks up of their life, due to inappropriate behaviour, and i don't give up easily.
c) it's marginally better tham watching paint dry - if there was any excitement somewhere else on the board, you wouldn't get a look in.
so now i DO have more "social power/dominance" than you? sorry - i thought you said you were better than me, knew more about PR and politics than me, was superior in intelligence, etc., etc. shifting the goalposts is a sign of lack of argument. clever, but weak.
You were brought up with a strange set of manners Lucifer. I hope they get you far.
Oh, who is this you are supporting. I thought you liked to demolish people. Supporting people on a bed of sharp thorns doesnt count.
If you were to take me on like this in person you would have absolutely no chance, i have a certain style that i cant convey on this board, but you would get whooped. Under the bully definition, on here you have more social power than me, and seem to like applying it. That makes you fit my definition without moving the goal posts at all. Nice try to avoid this. What does it say about you though if i am the best source of entertainment on the forum. I do love the way you take a load of stuff i have said out of context though...
You say this ad nauseam. I have a suggestion, why don't you get off the computer and use your superpower of charisma elsewhere.
Simple I dont enjoy using it. But i wouldnt complain if you followed your own advice about getting off the computer.
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I don't have superpowers.
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If you were to take me on like this in person you would have absolutely no chance, i have a certain style that i cant convey on this board, but you would get whooped.
you're on - try me. come and pay me a visit, why don't you?
i dont think your intresting enough to merit the journey...
complete bottle job! :LMAO:
i called your bluff, love, and you really bricked it. i do believe the expression is "PWNED!".
oh, and thanks for gheying me again - there's no-one else on here who would, so you just carry on showing your pettiness - it suits you.
now fuck off like a good little boy and find someone who gives a toss to play with. :-*
move right along, folks - nothing to see on here anymore.
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I did the gheying.
You use some annoying tactics,
which don't impress me. Such
as carrying a term over again and
again, without good reason.
Especially when you crank about colloquialisms,
and then inflict them.
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thanks for being honest, cal.
better to call me on it by saying it, rather than just using the ghey button, though, i think.
i thought more people would notice the colloquialisms thing, though. no fun, unless someone does. :eyelash:
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I'm snoozy, and like pushing
buttons. I often don't note
the reason.
Eh, just assume any random movement
is my fault.
Maybe I'll manage to make a race for the negatives.
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If you were to take me on like this in person you would have absolutely no chance, i have a certain style that i cant convey on this board, but you would get whooped.
you're on - try me. come and pay me a visit, why don't you?
i dont think your intresting enough to merit the journey...
complete bottle job! :LMAO:
i called your bluff, love, and you really bricked it. i do believe the expression is "PWNED!".
oh, and thanks for gheying me again - there's no-one else on here who would, so you just carry on showing your pettiness - it suits you.
now fuck off like a good little boy and find someone who gives a toss to play with. :-*
move right along, folks - nothing to see on here anymore.
Dear dear, is dear lucifer getting paranoid about being gheyed, it wasnt me.
If I did find this out, then you are royally screwed arent you lucifer. One thing, if i do find you, it goes on public forum. But if you are so sure that i cant, then that wont be a problem, right?
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You really are a prize twat aren't you?
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You really are a prize twat aren't you?
Nope. And i am sure lucifer will come up with a more witty response than you PI. Dont intervine.
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You really are a prize twat aren't you?
Nope. And i am sure lucifer will come up with a more witty response than you PI. Dont intervine.
I'm not intervening I'm expressing an opinion about what comes across as threatening, bullying behaviour.
I just find it distasteful that you'd threaten someone with publicly sharing anything you can find out about them. Yes she challenged you to back up your claims but she also said to send the information privately with her.
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You really are a prize twat aren't you?
Nope. And i am sure lucifer will come up with a more witty response than you PI. Dont intervine.
I'm not intervening I'm expressing an opinion about what comes across as threatening, bullying behaviour.
I just find it distasteful that you'd threaten someone with publicly sharing anything you can find out about them. Yes she challenged you to back up your claims but she also said to send the information privately with her.
Fair enough, i am just wiping the smirk off her face, and underscoring her arrogance.
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The only wiping going on is her wiping the floor, with you.
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The only wiping going on is her wiping the floor, with you.
Are you some lame sock puppet of lucifer or something? You could be overating her.
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If you were to take me on like this in person you would have absolutely no chance, i have a certain style that i cant convey on this board, but you would get whooped.
you're on - try me. come and pay me a visit, why don't you?
i dont think your intresting enough to merit the journey...
complete bottle job! :LMAO:
i called your bluff, love, and you really bricked it. i do believe the expression is "PWNED!".
oh, and thanks for gheying me again - there's no-one else on here who would, so you just carry on showing your pettiness - it suits you.
now fuck off like a good little boy and find someone who gives a toss to play with. :-*
move right along, folks - nothing to see on here anymore.
Dear dear, is dear lucifer getting paranoid about being gheyed, it wasnt me.
If I did find this out, then you are royally screwed arent you lucifer. One thing, if i do find you, it goes on public forum. But if you are so sure that i cant, then that wont be a problem, right?
You know, that is a really nasty thing to say, Hadron.
How would you feel if Lucifer said that if she found out any personal information about you, then she would post it on a public forum?
Her privacy is just as important to her as your privacy is to you. Don't you understand this?
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hadron, you are making it increasingly difficult for me to defend you.
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If you were to take me on like this in person you would have absolutely no chance, i have a certain style that i cant convey on this board, but you would get whooped.
you're on - try me. come and pay me a visit, why don't you?
i dont think your intresting enough to merit the journey...
complete bottle job! :LMAO:
i called your bluff, love, and you really bricked it. i do believe the expression is "PWNED!".
oh, and thanks for gheying me again - there's no-one else on here who would, so you just carry on showing your pettiness - it suits you.
now fuck off like a good little boy and find someone who gives a toss to play with. :-*
move right along, folks - nothing to see on here anymore.
Dear dear, is dear lucifer getting paranoid about being gheyed, it wasnt me.
If I did find this out, then you are royally screwed arent you lucifer. One thing, if i do find you, it goes on public forum. But if you are so sure that i cant, then that wont be a problem, right?
You know, that is a really nasty thing to say, Hadron.
How would you feel if Lucifer said that if she found out any personal information about you, then she would post it on a public forum?
Her privacy is just as important to her as your privacy is to you. Don't you understand this?
Its a challenge to her, think about it. Do you think I would follow it through?
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If you were to take me on like this in person you would have absolutely no chance, i have a certain style that i cant convey on this board, but you would get whooped.
you're on - try me. come and pay me a visit, why don't you?
i dont think your intresting enough to merit the journey...
complete bottle job! :LMAO:
i called your bluff, love, and you really bricked it. i do believe the expression is "PWNED!".
oh, and thanks for gheying me again - there's no-one else on here who would, so you just carry on showing your pettiness - it suits you.
now fuck off like a good little boy and find someone who gives a toss to play with. :-*
move right along, folks - nothing to see on here anymore.
Dear dear, is dear lucifer getting paranoid about being gheyed, it wasnt me.
If I did find this out, then you are royally screwed arent you lucifer. One thing, if i do find you, it goes on public forum. But if you are so sure that i cant, then that wont be a problem, right?
You know, that is a really nasty thing to say, Hadron.
How would you feel if Lucifer said that if she found out any personal information about you, then she would post it on a public forum?
Her privacy is just as important to her as your privacy is to you. Don't you understand this?
Its a challenge to her, think about it. Do you think I would follow it through?
Honestly, I have no idea whether you would actually do it or not, but you said you would and this bothers me.
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You really are a prize twat aren't you?
Nope. And i am sure lucifer will come up with a more witty response than you PI. Dont intervine.
If you wish that kind of protection,
do a call out. We can bloody well
piss on your arguments however
we like, here.
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You really are a prize twat aren't you?
Nope. And i am sure lucifer will come up with a more witty response than you PI. Dont intervine.
If you wish that kind of protection,
do a call out. We can bloody well
piss on your arguments however
we like, here.
I will do, the next time I get anything patronising or guerilla arguement. Are you still gheying her, Calandale...?
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More Hardon bullshit, it seems. Not worth the bother.
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More Hardon bullshit, it seems. Not worth the bother.
Peegai, if i took you on one on one then I would whoop your skanky arse. Has Lucifer shagged you yet?
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More Hardon bullshit, it seems. Not worth the bother.
Peegai, if i took you on one on one then I would whoop your skanky arse. Has Lucifer shagged you yet?
You serious? You want to challenge me to a physical duel? :-\
No. Vivi and I have never had sex, and we don't intend to in future. The relationship we got is based on mutual respect and trust, nothing more.
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More Hardon bullshit, it seems. Not worth the bother.
Peegai, if i took you on one on one then I would whoop your skanky arse. Has Lucifer shagged you yet?
You serious? You want to challenge me to a physical duel? :-\
No. Vivi and I have never had sex, and we don't intend to in future. The relationship we got is based on mutual respect and trust, nothing more.
I was looking at a more intellectual duel halfwit. Make a call out, i dare you.
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More Hardon bullshit, it seems. Not worth the bother.
Peegai, if i took you on one on one then I would whoop your skanky arse. Has Lucifer shagged you yet?
You serious? You want to challenge me to a physical duel? :-\
No. Vivi and I have never had sex, and we don't intend to in future. The relationship we got is based on mutual respect and trust, nothing more.
I was looking at a more intellectual duel halfwit. Make a call out, i dare you.
:yawn:
And I was hoping you were going to whoop my skanky arse in person. Shame.
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More Hardon bullshit, it seems. Not worth the bother.
Peegai, if i took you on one on one then I would whoop your skanky arse. Has Lucifer shagged you yet?
You serious? You want to challenge me to a physical duel? :-\
No. Vivi and I have never had sex, and we don't intend to in future. The relationship we got is based on mutual respect and trust, nothing more.
I was looking at a more intellectual duel halfwit. Make a call out, i dare you.
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And I was hoping you were going to whoop my skanky arse in person. Shame.
You think that I would take the personal approach... Your not worth it. See that thread isnt up yet...
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Why have you decide to keep attacking Lucifer and anyone who tries to stick up for her? You're not even adding anything to the debate now, you're just making yourself look petty and childish. I know you must have more to offer than this.
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More Hardon bullshit, it seems. Not worth the bother.
Peegai, if i took you on one on one then I would whoop your skanky arse. Has Lucifer shagged you yet?
You serious? You want to challenge me to a physical duel? :-\
No. Vivi and I have never had sex, and we don't intend to in future. The relationship we got is based on mutual respect and trust, nothing more.
I was looking at a more intellectual duel halfwit. Make a call out, i dare you.
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And I was hoping you were going to whoop my skanky arse in person. Shame.
You think that I would take the personal approach... Your not worth it. See that thread isnt up yet...
Are you off your medication or summat? What the fuck are you going on about? Well, whatever it was, it's boring me to tears.
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Why have you decide to keep attacking Lucifer and anyone who tries to stick up for her? You're not even adding anything to the debate now, you're just making yourself look petty and childish. I know you must have more to offer than this.
If you read through more carelfully, Lucifer begins by attacking me. And then Peegai joins in. Ask them.
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Why have you decide to keep attacking Lucifer and anyone who tries to stick up for her? You're not even adding anything to the debate now, you're just making yourself look petty and childish. I know you must have more to offer than this.
If you read through more carelfully, Lucifer begins by attacking me. And then Peegai joins in. Ask them.
Yeah, because of your insensitive post regarding Amanda Baggs.
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Why have you decide to keep attacking Lucifer and anyone who tries to stick up for her? You're not even adding anything to the debate now, you're just making yourself look petty and childish. I know you must have more to offer than this.
If you read through more carelfully, Lucifer begins by attacking me. And then Peegai joins in. Ask them.
When did she last post on this thread? Last night- yet you're still making bitchy comments about her every chance you get.
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Why have you decide to keep attacking Lucifer and anyone who tries to stick up for her? You're not even adding anything to the debate now, you're just making yourself look petty and childish. I know you must have more to offer than this.
If you read through more carelfully, Lucifer begins by attacking me. And then Peegai joins in. Ask them.
Yeah, because of your insensitive post regarding Amanda Baggs.
Oh, is she some kind of taboo we are not allowed to criticise or something?
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Why have you decide to keep attacking Lucifer and anyone who tries to stick up for her? You're not even adding anything to the debate now, you're just making yourself look petty and childish. I know you must have more to offer than this.
If you read through more carelfully, Lucifer begins by attacking me. And then Peegai joins in. Ask them.
Yeah, because of your insensitive post regarding Amanda Baggs.
Oh, is she some kind of taboo we are not allowed to criticise or something?
Her lapdog only posted recently though. Its not my problem she has ran away with her tail between her legs. Perhaps tell her she has unfinished business in this thread.
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Maybe she just got bored of the circular argument.
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Why have you decide to keep attacking Lucifer and anyone who tries to stick up for her? You're not even adding anything to the debate now, you're just making yourself look petty and childish. I know you must have more to offer than this.
If you read through more carelfully, Lucifer begins by attacking me. And then Peegai joins in. Ask them.
Yeah, because of your insensitive post regarding Amanda Baggs.
Oh, is she some kind of taboo we are not allowed to criticise or something?
Where did I say you weren't allowed to criticise Amanda Baggs? All I noted was the reason behind the hostility you seem to be getting. Get outta the kitchen if you can't take the heat, and all that crap.
(I'm just not bothered with I2 today. Seriously.)
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cockmaster.
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Maybe she just got bored of the circular argument.
Possible explaination, then she should have started it then if its true.
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I will do, the next time I get anything patronising or guerilla arguement. Are you still gheying her, Calandale...?
I wasn't making a huge habit of it.
I think I hit her twice.
Might have done a yay too though.
I don't pay attention to what I do.
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I will do, the next time I get anything patronising or guerilla arguement. Are you still gheying her, Calandale...?
I wasn't making a huge habit of it.
I think I hit her twice.
Might have done a yay too though.
I don't pay attention to what I do.
Oh you and your randomness...
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unfair, pyraxis, as you know full well how private a person i am, and have always been on whichever board i've posted on, and i know you feel the same way - at least in part - yourself. "a convenient out" etc. is point scoring, and , i thought, beneath you.
It's both point scoring and valid. I really do think it hurts your argument to make vague grandiose claims about yourself ("I may well have saved your life at some point" etc.) and then clam up when asked to elaborate.
fair point.
As for whether it's beneath me, I made my intentions clear (and at the moment it looks like the insurance mess isn't going to be as bad as I'd feared). I was practising both how to talk down an unreasonable person (Hadron) and challenge somebody I'd normally be wary of (you). I don't have enough practice in debate yet to know whether I'm more effective with attacks like going after your need for privacy, or with flies-and-honey like granting inconsequential points and then illustrating the clarity of my position anyway. Trial run. :)
bollocks. why do you always back down, or find clever (but unconvincing) excuses when challenged? instead of your usual underhand methods, why don't you actually engage someone in an upfront debate?
as for the "oh, i make my intentions clear about using people as guinea pigs" twaddle, no, you don't. especially not to people with AS.
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What exactly are you challenging me on?
Whether it's beneath me or not?
Obviously it's not beneath me, because I did it.
Whether I make my intentions clear?
I thought I had - what part is unclear? What might be clearer for a person with AS?
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i'm challenging you on three points:
1. why you back down when you call someone (me, often) on something, and then retreat when they (i) respond assertively, as opposed to defensively.
2. why you claim to be transparent in your motives, when you're anything but (until after the event), and a lot of people with AS (sometimes including manipulative headfuckites like myself) wouldn't know your intentions unless you state them clearly, before, not afterwards.
3. why do you not actually engage people in an upfront debate, rather than guerilla tactics, and "mea cupla, that's all i was doing" tactics when your challenge is responded to.
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i'm challenging you on three points:
1. why you back down when you call someone (me, often) on something, and then retreat when they (i) respond assertively, as opposed to defensively.
2. why you claim to be transparent in your motives, when you're anything but (until after the event), and a lot of people with AS (sometimes including manipulative headfuckites like myself) wouldn't know your intentions unless you state them clearly, before, not afterwards.
3. why do you not actually engage people in an upfront debate, rather than guerilla tactics, and "mea cupla, that's all i was doing" tactics when your challenge is responded to.
Lucifer, that pretty much sums up how I see you, asides number 2. Smells of hyporcisy, if you dont mind me saying so.
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1. why you back down when you call someone (me, often) on something, and then retreat when they (i) respond assertively, as opposed to defensively.
Cause it's much more fun to go after people acting like posturing pricks than people defending themselves well over potentially valid points. I'll attack someone acting assertive if their point is something I seriously disagree with, but that takes it out of the realm of entertaining sparring match and into real debate. For real debate, I'm be much more interested in the information exchange than the petty insults, so I try to cut through the bullshit. Besides, I like assertiveness and want to encourage it.
2. why you claim to be transparent in your motives, when you're anything but (until after the event), and a lot of people with AS (sometimes including manipulative headfuckites like myself) wouldn't know your intentions unless you state them clearly, before, not afterwards.
It's situational. In this particular case of the guinea pigs, I was being transparent. That doesn't mean I'm always transparent. Most of the time I have more than one motivation for the things I do, and it would take way too much time to explain them all (not to mention I'd bore people to tears).
Besides, Dawg had a good point - if I had explained everything beforehand, I wouldn't have been able to get the debate practice.
3. why do you not actually engage people in an upfront debate, rather than guerilla tactics, and "mea cupla, that's all i was doing" tactics when your challenge is responded to.
I do, over things I care about (which has included plenty of site policy decisions in the past; haven't you seen that?) - unless it's some sensitive personal issue, where I'd get too emotional if I were direct.
Hadron - #2 applies to Lucifer too, the way she presents herself on other sites.
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Lol, pyraxis could you link me please, then I can see the entire post is vivis reflection...
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I'm banned from WP, but if you really felt like hunting through the archives there, it's all about caring-and-supportive mentor Vetivert, not manipulative mindfuck Lucifer. There's probably some stuff on On the Spectrum as well. The contradiction can be hard to spot, because I've never heard her come out and say directly that her motivations are transparent, it's more of an overall tone. Whatever the online equivalent of body language and voice intonation is.
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I'm banned from WP, but if you really felt like hunting through the archives there, it's all about caring-and-supportive mentor Vetivert, not manipulative mindfuck Lucifer. There's probably some stuff on On the Spectrum as well. The contradiction can be hard to spot, because I've never heard her come out and say directly that her motivations are transparent, it's more of an overall tone. Whatever the online equivalent of body language and voice intonation is.
Hmm, i could search for her, i have a duff acc that I never posted with there. You do know she is an utterly miserable person, otherwise she wouldnt get a kick out of trying to beat me in an arguement (someone who she considers utterly inferior to herself). Did she use nails or thorns to support people?
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Vetivert was lucifer?
Who was her pet?
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Vetivert was lucifer?
Who was her pet?
I have no idea. Searching for her posts made my skin crawl though, they sound so different to what she says on here. I think I am going to have to back Pyraxis on point 2 as well being accurate for dear Lucifer.
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I don't think you're in much of a position to make a character assessment of her, considering you don't actually know her. You really are a fucktard sometimes. :wanker:
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I don't think you're in much of a position to make a character assessment of her, considering you don't actually know her. You really are a fucktard sometimes. :wanker:
I assume that was referring to both parties antagonising Lucifer?
Anyhow, I think my experience with her in public speaks more volumes than the assumptions permitted by the naysayers of this site.
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I don't think you're in much of a position to make a character assessment of her, considering you don't actually know her. You really are a fucktard sometimes. :wanker:
I am skilled at character assessments, condering when I apply them they dont usually blow up in my face. People put on facades in person as well Peegai, (speaking as someone who does himself), you must always be careful. Dont trust anyone, unless you have something on them.
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old news, pyraxis: it's all been said before - and a lot better mind you - by the likes of McJ, eammon, and the rest of the (then) lynch mob. (apologies, chaps, as we've managed to get over it now).
it didn't work. try again.
and nice to see your sweetie on here this afternoon, to give you advice on what to say. at least i don't go running off crying to mummy when i'm challenged.
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I don't think you're in much of a position to make a character assessment of her, considering you don't actually know her. You really are a fucktard sometimes. :wanker:
I am skilled at character assessments, condering when I apply them they dont usually blow up in my face. People put on facades in person as well Peegai, (speaking as someone who does himself), you must always be careful. Dont trust anyone, unless you have something on them.
Speak for yourself, child.
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I don't think you're in much of a position to make a character assessment of her, considering you don't actually know her. You really are a fucktard sometimes. :wanker:
I am skilled at character assessments, condering when I apply them they dont usually blow up in my face. People put on facades in person as well Peegai, (speaking as someone who does himself), you must always be careful. Dont trust anyone, unless you have something on them.
You are an overconfident teenage fuckwit. I consider Lucifer a close personal friend and have known her for several years. I think that trumps your halfwitted assumptions.
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I don't think you're in much of a position to make a character assessment of her, considering you don't actually know her. You really are a fucktard sometimes. :wanker:
I am skilled at character assessments, condering when I apply them they dont usually blow up in my face. People put on facades in person as well Peegai, (speaking as someone who does himself), you must always be careful. Dont trust anyone, unless you have something on them.
You are an overconfident teenage fuckwit. I consider Lucifer a close personal friend and have known her for several years. I think that trumps your halfwitted assumptions.
Ditto- if you were so great at character assessments you'd know that Pyraxis has a vested interest in getting involved with this Lucifer bashing.
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I don't think you're in much of a position to make a character assessment of her, considering you don't actually know her. You really are a fucktard sometimes. :wanker:
I am skilled at character assessments, condering when I apply them they dont usually blow up in my face. People put on facades in person as well Peegai, (speaking as someone who does himself), you must always be careful. Dont trust anyone, unless you have something on them.
You are an overconfident teenage fuckwit. I consider Lucifer a close personal friend and have known her for several years. I think that trumps your halfwitted assumptions.
Which facet. She seems to display different ones in different forums, or has she just changed over the years. You are capable of making your own judgements though, just as I am capable of making mine.
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I don't think you're in much of a position to make a character assessment of her, considering you don't actually know her. You really are a fucktard sometimes. :wanker:
I am skilled at character assessments, condering when I apply them they dont usually blow up in my face. People put on facades in person as well Peegai, (speaking as someone who does himself), you must always be careful. Dont trust anyone, unless you have something on them.
You are an overconfident teenage fuckwit. I consider Lucifer a close personal friend and have known her for several years. I think that trumps your halfwitted assumptions.
Ditto- if you were so great at character assessments you'd know that Pyraxis has a vested interest in getting involved with this Lucifer bashing.
Surprisingly i dont care about motives, and again Lucifer bashed her first on this thread i think you will find. I was merely defending Pyraxis.
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Does it not occur to you that people only allow a very limited part of themselves to be seen publicly online, yet with close friends they allow more of themselves to show? Do you know anything about all the shit that was happening at WP when many of us were members?
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I don't think you're in much of a position to make a character assessment of her, considering you don't actually know her. You really are a fucktard sometimes. :wanker:
I am skilled at character assessments, condering when I apply them they dont usually blow up in my face. People put on facades in person as well Peegai, (speaking as someone who does himself), you must always be careful. Dont trust anyone, unless you have something on them.
You are an overconfident teenage fuckwit. I consider Lucifer a close personal friend and have known her for several years. I think that trumps your halfwitted assumptions.
Which facet. She seems to display different ones in different forums, or has she just changed over the years. You are capable of making your own judgements though, just as I am capable of making mine.
Exactly. The difference being that I and a number of others here have far more information available with which to form that opinion. People are more complex than you seem to appreciate and it is perfectly possible to behave in different ways in different settings - its called appropriate behaviour. I would not respond to my children in the same way I would to an alleged adult, or to a vulnerable person seeking advice. Context is also important.
Either way, you're arguing from a position of ignorance. So shut the fuck up.
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Does it not occur to you that people only allow a very limited part of themselves to be seen publicly online, yet with close friends they allow more of themselves to show? Do you know anything about all the shit that was happening at WP when many of us were members?
Surprisingly I kept an eye on wrong planet for quite a while, i just did not post there because of the fact that too many people were utterly suicidal for my liking. I am sure she has a different persona in person, but the persona i get to see is the online one, and thats the one i have to deal with.
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i wouldn't mind if it weren't just hadron spitting out his dummy cos i called his bluff and he's a poor loser. what a waste of his energy. he could be solving the Goldbach conjecture, or something.
oh no, sorry, he couldn't - kosmo pointed that out a couple of days ago. but then, that's what an Oxford education does for you.
get over it, hadron. i'm quite willing to engage with you, as you obviously have a brain, if only you'd just stop having to be so bloody superior (and admit your limitations - a sign of maturity) the whole time.
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Does it not occur to you that people only allow a very limited part of themselves to be seen publicly online, yet with close friends they allow more of themselves to show? Do you know anything about all the shit that was happening at WP when many of us were members?
Surprisingly I kept an eye on wrong planet for quite a while, i just did not post there because of the fact that too many people were utterly suicidal for my liking. I am sure she has a different persona in person, but the persona i get to see is the online one, and thats the one i have to deal with.
So you've had this amazing ability to see people's real character and even to read what was going on in a private admin forum, on IM, email, etc for the past 3 years have you?
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i wouldn't mind if it weren't just hadron spitting out his dummy cos i called his bluff and he's a poor loser. what a waste of his energy. he could be solving the Goldbach conjecture, or something.
oh no, sorry, he couldn't - kosmo pointed that out a couple of days ago. but then, that's what an Oxford education does for you.
get over it, hadron. i'm quite willing to engage with you, as you obviously have a brain, if only you'd just stop having to be so bloody superior (and admit your limitations - a sign of maturity) the whole time.
Fine, we can drop it, if you are willing to engage with me in a non-patronisng manner then I can get on with you. As for the Oxford story there is well more to it then me getting rejected, if you are really intrested then PM me. I have a feeling you would have been as equally pissed off with them as I am with them if you were there.
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Does it not occur to you that people only allow a very limited part of themselves to be seen publicly online, yet with close friends they allow more of themselves to show? Do you know anything about all the shit that was happening at WP when many of us were members?
Surprisingly I kept an eye on wrong planet for quite a while, i just did not post there because of the fact that too many people were utterly suicidal for my liking. I am sure she has a different persona in person, but the persona i get to see is the online one, and thats the one i have to deal with.
So you've had this amazing ability to see people's real character and even to read what was going on in a private admin forum, on IM, email, etc for the past 3 years have you?
I could infer most of it from the forums, or what I read of them. It didnt seem very pleasent, hence I chose not to post there. My ability to read character has worked very well on NT's largely over the years, put it like this any that shit on me from too high got what was coming to them, and i used character assessments to plan and then implement.
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i wouldn't mind if it weren't just hadron spitting out his dummy cos i called his bluff and he's a poor loser. what a waste of his energy. he could be solving the Goldbach conjecture, or something.
oh no, sorry, he couldn't - kosmo pointed that out a couple of days ago. but then, that's what an Oxford education does for you.
get over it, hadron. i'm quite willing to engage with you, as you obviously have a brain, if only you'd just stop having to be so bloody superior (and admit your limitations - a sign of maturity) the whole time.
Fine, we can drop it, if you are willing to engage with me in a non-patronisng manner then I can get on with you. As for the Oxford story there is well more to it then me getting rejected, if you are really intrested then PM me. I have a feeling you would have been as equally pissed off with them as I am with them if you were there.
i've already dropped it, hon - i'm not the one zooming round the board carrying it all over the place into other threads. nor have i been post stalking (and don't deny it, cos i've been watching you do it).
you've already told me the Oxford story, i believe - you admitted to having AS on your application form, etc. i do read your posts. well, i did, at that point.
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Thank fuck for that. Does that mean we can drop all the bitchy comments, character assassination, etc and either get back to the real debate or just agree to disagree?
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/me questions everyone's diagnosis hopefully :arrr:
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:laugh:
Thank fuck for that. Does that mean we can drop all the bitchy comments, character assassination, etc and either get back to the real debate or just agree to disagree?
amen to that, sister. ::)
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i wouldn't mind if it weren't just hadron spitting out his dummy cos i called his bluff and he's a poor loser. what a waste of his energy. he could be solving the Goldbach conjecture, or something.
oh no, sorry, he couldn't - kosmo pointed that out a couple of days ago. but then, that's what an Oxford education does for you.
get over it, hadron. i'm quite willing to engage with you, as you obviously have a brain, if only you'd just stop having to be so bloody superior (and admit your limitations - a sign of maturity) the whole time.
Fine, we can drop it, if you are willing to engage with me in a non-patronisng manner then I can get on with you. As for the Oxford story there is well more to it then me getting rejected, if you are really intrested then PM me. I have a feeling you would have been as equally pissed off with them as I am with them if you were there.
i've already dropped it, hon - i'm not the one zooming round the board carrying it all over the place into other threads. nor have i been post stalking (and don't deny it, cos i've been watching you do it).
you've already told me the Oxford story, i believe - you admitted to having AS on your application form, etc. i do read your posts. well, i did, at that point.
There is way more to what I put on the application form, if i said it on public forum I would be in shit as you could narrow me down to one person with a call to Oxford. As for post stalking, what do you mean by that? You now see why my IP isnt handed out dont you?
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There's a who is online page where you can see what people are doing- although only admins can see IP addresses on there.
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There's a who is online page where you can see what people are doing- although only admins can see IP addresses on there.
Can you link me to that please, sounds intresting. May I ask Lucifer why were you spying on me?
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There is way more to what I put on the application form, if i said it on public forum I would be in shit as you could narrow me down to one person with a call to Oxford. As for post stalking, what do you mean by that? You now see why my IP isnt handed out dont you?
i wouldn't ask you to post it publicly - you know how i feel about that sort of thing. if you want to offload, then do so - you know how to PM.
as for the ISP thing: posting directly after someone, regularly and frequently, is a bit of a giveaway, especially in threads you're not engaged in, or haven't been, before.
i'm not going to stalk you or "out" you or anything like that, hadron, don't worry. why would i want to?
EDIT: hit "post" before i'd read the new posts. i'm not and haven't been spying on you, oh paranoid one - read the second para above.
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I assume that was referring to both parties antagonising Lucifer?
Sounded like it was aimed more at Hadron than me, but Dunc can correct me if I'm wrong.
old news, pyraxis: it's all been said before - and a lot better mind you - by the likes of McJ, eammon, and the rest of the (then) lynch mob. (apologies, chaps, as we've managed to get over it now).
Do you mean the mess when Intensity 1 went down and people blamed it on you? I don't know what connections you're trying to make here, but I hadn't said anything about that. Aside from the bit to Hadron, all I'd said about you was that unsubstantiated claims were poor argument, and I thought we resolved that pages ago. Defensive much? You're not quite as over it as you'd like to pretend, if you're seeing it everywhere.
I said to Hadron that you acted differently on WP/OTS than here, I didn't say that it was news to everyone. Hadron, just like Dunc pointed out, doesn't know you from Adam.
and nice to see your sweetie on here this afternoon, to give you advice on what to say. at least i don't go running off crying to mummy when i'm challenged.
No, you just go running off period.
Actually, he hasn't even read this thread. I haven't asked for any advice from him about this argument, and he hasn't offered any. I imagine that he would find your assumptions as entertaining as I do, though.
I was merely defending Pyraxis.
Thanks, but not necessary. At the rate you're antagonizing most other people on this site, supporting me will hinder me more than it will help me.
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There's a who is online page where you can see what people are doing- although only admins can see IP addresses on there.
Can you link me to that please, sounds intresting. May I ask Lucifer why were you spying on me?
The link to it is at the bottom of the index page- right above the names of the members online.
http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?action=who (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?action=who)
BTW- many of us are addicted to that page waiting to see if people are posting yet :laugh:
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There is way more to what I put on the application form, if i said it on public forum I would be in shit as you could narrow me down to one person with a call to Oxford. As for post stalking, what do you mean by that? You now see why my IP isnt handed out dont you?
i wouldn't ask you to post it publicly - you know how i feel about that sort of thing. if you want to offload, then do so - you know how to PM.
as for the ISP thing: posting directly after someone, regularly and frequently, is a bit of a giveaway, especially in threads you're not engaged in, or haven't been, before.
i'm not going to stalk you or "out" you or anything like that, hadron, don't worry. why would i want to?
EDIT: hit "post" before i'd read the new posts. i'm not and haven't been spying on you, oh paranoid one - read the second para above.
Oh, I use the top menus with unread posts/ replies so i can flit in and out, so it searches for posts for me automatically, hence the apparent fliting around and spying. Ill send you a PM asking if you really want the story, and asking if you wont blab it etc. As for being paranoid, i am a wannabe politician, and i dont want convos being dragged from intensity when i am in a position of power.
Cheers PI, ill take a peek.
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Thank fuck for that. Does that mean we can drop all the bitchy comments, character assassination, etc and either get back to the real debate or just agree to disagree?
amen to that, sister. ::)
I'd be happy to split this off elsewhere. It's been bugging me that the video debate got derailed too.
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Do you mean the mess when Intensity 1 went down and people blamed it on you?
nope. nice try, though.
No, you just go running off period.
do i? care to explain?
Actually, he hasn't even read this thread. I haven't asked for any advice from him about this argument, and he hasn't offered any.
if you say so. just coincidence that the first time he's here in ages happens to be when you've spent 10 minutes reading this thread and then disappearing, is it? twice. tut, tut, pyraxis.
I imagine that he would find your assumptions as entertaining as I do, though.
naturally.
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You do know you can always comment on her video Hadron on the site. Just write in your comment how you feel about her video and your concern on what impression it give NTs about autism.
Good idea but it's not Hadron's style. He likes to whine about things, not actually do anything about them. ::)
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You do know you can always comment on her video Hadron on the site. Just write in your comment how you feel about her video and your concern on what impression it give NTs about autism.
Good idea but it's not Hadron's style. He likes to whine about things, not actually do anything about them. ::)
I will make a comment on Youtube at some point, where it is public. I need to speed up my connection before i can make the acc to do so though.
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More Hardon bullshit, it seems. Not worth the bother.
Peegai, if i took you on one on one then I would whoop your skanky arse. Has Lucifer shagged you yet?
You serious? You want to challenge me to a physical duel? :-\
No. Vivi and I have never had sex, and we don't intend to in future. The relationship we got is based on mutual respect and trust, nothing more.
I was looking at a more intellectual duel halfwit. Make a call out, i dare you.
Why don't you make that call-out? You don't carry anything through, do you?
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More Hardon bullshit, it seems. Not worth the bother.
Peegai, if i took you on one on one then I would whoop your skanky arse. Has Lucifer shagged you yet?
You serious? You want to challenge me to a physical duel? :-\
No. Vivi and I have never had sex, and we don't intend to in future. The relationship we got is based on mutual respect and trust, nothing more.
I was looking at a more intellectual duel halfwit. Make a call out, i dare you.
Why don't you make that call-out? You don't carry anything through, do you?
I am going to give him time to repent in a fashion first. He may well do so.
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I am imagining things or as this argument just be resurrected?? :wallbutt:
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sigh... please, no...
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We could get back to the actual video, if anyone has any more points to add. Or if someone who knows the star of the show can invite her here.
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Amanda has an account here, but hasn't visited for some time.
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Amanda has an account here, but hasn't visited for some time.
Hmm, did she get scared off or did she just leave?
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didn't feel like bantering much I guess. she's welcome to come and post if she has anything to say though, hanging out and talking about wanking isnt everyone's idea of entertainment. :P
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didn't feel like bantering much I guess. she's welcome to come and post if she has anything to say though, hanging out and talking about wanking isnt everyone's idea of entertainment. :P
:laugh: We do do more than talk about wanking here dont we?
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*thinks hard*
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I am imagining things or as this argument just be resurrected?? :wallbutt:
oops. sorry. i hadn't read this thread through so i was replying as i read on. :laugh:
i'll let it be, then. ;D
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you're a very
bad good boy. and so you deserve a reward. what would you like? :eyelash:
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I'm so glad you asked. I have a few ideas that I wanted to discuss... :;D
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best get back to the PM foom, then. :eyebrows:
:-*
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...etc...
I've split our conversation off here (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?topic=5064.0). See you there.
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We could get back to the actual video, if anyone has any more points to add. Or if someone who knows the star of the show can invite her here.
Someone from here has made a comment on the youtube page. Have you made a comment there, hadron?
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We could get back to the actual video, if anyone has any more points to add. Or if someone who knows the star of the show can invite her here.
Someone from here has made a comment on the youtube page. Have you made a comment there, hadron?
Not yet, ill get round to it soon though.
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You gotta love ED and their "hilarious" website: http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Amanda_Baggs
Shall we edit the article and add to it?
What, exactly, are you going to add? Just so you know that I agree with A.B. What I don't like are people who are misinterpreting what her actual intentions are concerning those two video links I've recently posted here.
And why do people make these assumptions that she has inherited "one of the purest communications from God"? Religious fuckwits... She is not glorifying her real-life behaviour.
I dont give a rats arse what her intentions are, look at what she has done. Do you want every NT to think that we are bouncing idiots! I assume not. Why does she feel the need to make these idiotic videos that do nothing to further our cause, in fact they send it sky rocketing backwords.
As for editing the article, when i sober up i may have some fun with it, i should have some ideas by the morning...
you supercilious little cunt. you have absolutely no idea about that woman's life - it's nothing to you but something to "have fun with".
no-one has to justify anything to you, and especially not when every time you open your pathetic mouth, all you can do is make yourself look more like what you are - someone who's been educated beyond their intelligence.
do youself a favour and fuck off until you've learned some basic manners, apart from anything else.
:minus:
edit: in fact, i'll go so far as to say, have a mirror, and may it all come back on you threefold. you are disgusting.
I am disgusting am i Lucifer, takes one to know one...
I have an idea about her life, the fact is unless she wants to be in the next video of Autism Speaks, she should gain a knowledge of PR. As we happen to share the same brand, i think she needs to be wiser with it. Think how the NT's are going to look at it, for christs sake. She has just provided them with a perfect oppotunity. You do understand PR Lucifer, she has just totally humilated herself, and us! As for me being educated beyond my intelligence, prove it. Why are you getting so offended by me being rational Lucifer.
if it took her 25 yrs to learn to blow her nose... i think youre gonna have to wait for her video summing up the PR agenda
you are just proving her point on how people expect you to think like (and for) people as a group in whole... and when you dont... you get shat on be people like you
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You gotta love ED and their "hilarious" website: http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Amanda_Baggs
Shall we edit the article and add to it?
What, exactly, are you going to add? Just so you know that I agree with A.B. What I don't like are people who are misinterpreting what her actual intentions are concerning those two video links I've recently posted here.
And why do people make these assumptions that she has inherited "one of the purest communications from God"? Religious fuckwits... She is not glorifying her real-life behaviour.
I dont give a rats arse what her intentions are, look at what she has done. Do you want every NT to think that we are bouncing idiots! I assume not. Why does she feel the need to make these idiotic videos that do nothing to further our cause, in fact they send it sky rocketing backwords.
As for editing the article, when i sober up i may have some fun with it, i should have some ideas by the morning...
you supercilious little cunt. you have absolutely no idea about that woman's life - it's nothing to you but something to "have fun with".
no-one has to justify anything to you, and especially not when every time you open your pathetic mouth, all you can do is make yourself look more like what you are - someone who's been educated beyond their intelligence.
do youself a favour and fuck off until you've learned some basic manners, apart from anything else.
:minus:
edit: in fact, i'll go so far as to say, have a mirror, and may it all come back on you threefold. you are disgusting.
I am disgusting am i Lucifer, takes one to know one...
I have an idea about her life, the fact is unless she wants to be in the next video of Autism Speaks, she should gain a knowledge of PR. As we happen to share the same brand, i think she needs to be wiser with it. Think how the NT's are going to look at it, for christs sake. She has just provided them with a perfect oppotunity. You do understand PR Lucifer, she has just totally humilated herself, and us! As for me being educated beyond my intelligence, prove it. Why are you getting so offended by me being rational Lucifer.
if it took her 25 yrs to learn to blow her nose... i think youre gonna have to wait for her video summing up the PR agenda
you are just proving her point on how people expect you to think like (and for) people as a group in whole... and when you dont... you get shat on be people like you
Have you read the whole thread, before dragging up something from 20 pages ago?
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Why would she make a comment if she hasn't?
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This thread inspired me (if that’s the right word) to look at the video itself. Sadly, the excruciatingly slow, expensive connection wasn’t up to loading more than a minute-or-so, but I did read the comment, every one of them (995, last time I looked) and those comments convinced me that she’s actually done a brilliant PR job for autistics, whether or not she intended it as such.
Yeah, a handful of idiots made some really insulting comments, of course; and they received such thoughtful and patient answers that one of them did a U-turn., on the spot.. Here are some quotes:
MGthemes
OMG why don't you just talk.. You can talk, why are you superior to normal humans? You are normal, run a treadmill, get a life, and stop being retarded, i used to make fun of people like you at school.
silentmiaow:
You say, "i used to make fun of people like you at school."
Yeah, it shows. It's not something to be proud of. And being able to physically create words with my mouth is not the same as being able to make them mean what I want them to mean, or else, yes, I'd talk. And I'm not superior to anyone. Not that you actually care about my answer.
MGthemes:
Yea, i care about your replay, and i just dont understand hwo your so smart, and you cant talk. You can type, and comprehend normally, and you can humm meaningless stuff, and finger a stream of water, but you cant talk?
silentmiaow:
Intelligence and speech aren't particularly related, that's how. In fact, when I recently demonstrated for a researcher exactly which things I can and can't do in that regard, she actually knew the exact parts of my brain that must be working differently (apparently this pattern is a known thing).
MGthemes:
Sorry. I am starting to feel self concious about my actions. So theres never gunna be a way for you to talk? Except a voice machine?
silentmiaow:
I used to talk better than I do now, it's possible I might again, but I'm not really holding my breath (and given that I have a better means of communicating than even my best speech I don't really mind).
MGthemes:
Yea, you just gotta hang in there, and just think, at least your not retarded. You have the ability to think, and you are smarter than your average person
silentmiaow:
I don't really tend to hang around being grateful I'm not someone else, because it's kind of insulting to the someone else. You underestimate people with intellectual disabilities.
Sneech2:
"at least you're not retarded"? I think you missed the greater point of this video. The whole point is that all kinds of minds are legitimate, and all ways of thinking are legitimate. Yes, this includes "retarded" minds.
FYI, Hadron, a lot of the people who commented, came to YouTube, after seing a clip of the video on national TV, so I think that blows your theory, doesn’t it? The girl’s had a whole more coverage than you thought.
I don’t think it’s at all safe to assume that all those who lack the intelligence or what-have-you to frame a response to video will have a negative perception of it. If you can provide some convincing evidence of that, please provide it. But if you’re forced to back up your theory by retreating into the realms of the unknown, then guessing that those realms would yield contradictory results…well, heck, do you really expect us to take it seriously on that “evidence� And, no, I really don’t believe that the option of the inarticulate counts for more than the opinion of the articulate, or else that’s millenia of political oratory wasted, isn’t it?
The fact is that articulate people have a whole lot more influence than inarticulate people (which is another thing that Amanda Baggs demonstrated with this video, btw). They might mis-use their influence, but they certainly have it. And yeah, some of the curebies might mis-use this video, if they’re desperate. But it’s not as of they’re short of ammunitio, is it? More significantly, it might actually make some of those people think twice.
Btw, here’s another of my favourite parts:
“I hope you will be autistic some day , let's see if you think the same as you do now
You have to realise that the people with autism are the most genuine, sweetest and honest people on the planet, those are the real humans
The rest (like me and you) are just monsters who argue about everything, and how do you start a war ? yes it starts with argueâ€
silentmiaow:
I don't think we're all that idealized versions of people either, at least I wouldn't think so after hanging out around enough of us. ;-)
Yeah, she’s obviously been over here, huh? :evillaugh:
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Walkie's here!
Hi Walkie!
I did not read all the comments for this video, but I saw another video where Amanda talks about people in school physically jumping on her hard as she lay on the floor because they knew that she would not respond. It made me wonder why the teachers would permit this to happen. Maybe they thought her lack of communication meant that she didn't feel it?
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Walkie's here!
Hi Walkie!
I did not read all the comments for this video, but I saw another video where Amanda talks about people in school physically jumping on her hard as she lay on the floor because they knew that she would not respond. It made me wonder why the teachers would permit this to happen. Maybe they thought her lack of communication meant that she didn't feel it?
Hiya Callaway!
They probably did it when the teachers weren't looking. Interestingly, a group of girls at my school physically bullied me for the same reason- i was friustratingly unresponsive (actually, i was scared that i'd hurt people if i did respond, 'cause the things they were doing really made me see red. also ; also i was trying to figure out where they were coming from, 'cause they weren't your typical bullying types at all) When i finally let fly at them (a conscious decision) they were relieved to discover i was "human" after all, and they were nice to me ever after. Crazy fricking neurotypicals, huh? If i'd only known that they were after a response i'd have dug my nails into the ringleaders neck right away.
But this off-topic really isn't it?
Anyway, (to get even further off-topic.)Don't mention to the guys on Fractalus that you saw me here , huh? I'm planning yet another grand return, as soon as I get a decent internet connection sorted (which should be any time now,though i'm losing faith). Right now I'm just being self-indulgent, for a change (erm...irony). Can't afford to even look at Fractalus, in case it sucks me in.
*grin*
see ya soon,
Walkie
(Ooh my karma just went up! Thanks! Not that i care, of course. )
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Don't worry, Walkie. I won't say a word. I'm just so excited to see you. I hope you can get better internet service soon.
I was bullied in school when the teacher wasn't looking too. I think that the bullies were looking for me to hit back too, because it got better after I did.
But Amanda's bullying was so much worse, I wonder how the teachers could not have noticed it.
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What I thought was run-of-the mill everyone-gets-bullied-like-this bullying was actually not, as I found out years later. So this is why I think more people get bullied like Amanda did but because their story is not told, no-one knows.
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Have you read the whole thread, before dragging up something from 20 pages ago?
yeah
sorry... i didnt see how long it was when i started.... it was the "..." i didnt see
sorry lol
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Why would she make a comment if she hasn't?
i was just responding as i bagen to read through... but i hadnt realized just how long it was.... lol
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Have you read the whole thread, before dragging up something from 20 pages ago?
yeah
sorry... i didnt see how long it was when i started.... it was the "..." i didnt see
sorry lol
Fair enough, i was just checking your were not trying to reignite the flame war...
Peegai, it was 20 pages, most people dont spend an hour reading before making a post. And I could tell from her comment that she hadnt.
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Have you read the whole thread, before dragging up something from 20 pages ago?
yeah
sorry... i didnt see how long it was when i started.... it was the "..." i didnt see
sorry lol
Fair enough, i was just checking your were not trying to reignite the flame war...
Peegai, it was 20 pages, most people dont spend an hour reading before making a post. And I could tell from her comment that she hadnt.
we don't have flame wars here. only heated discussions.
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Have you read the whole thread, before dragging up something from 20 pages ago?
yeah
sorry... i didnt see how long it was when i started.... it was the "..." i didnt see
sorry lol
Fair enough, i was just checking your were not trying to reignite the flame war...
Peegai, it was 20 pages, most people dont spend an hour reading before making a post. And I could tell from her comment that she hadnt.
we don't have flame wars here. only heated discussions.
Thats one way of looking at it...
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Have you read the whole thread, before dragging up something from 20 pages ago?
yeah
sorry... i didnt see how long it was when i started.... it was the "..." i didnt see
sorry lol
Fair enough, i was just checking your were not trying to reignite the flame war...
Peegai, it was 20 pages, most people dont spend an hour reading before making a post. And I could tell from her comment that she hadnt.
we don't have flame wars here. only heated discussions.
Thats one way of looking at it...
the thing is that some good can come from an unmoderated debate. dalling it a flame war is implying that it is bad, or wrong. it isn't here. it does not violate any TOS, and it is encouraged.
though, senseless flaming will probably be returned, tenfold.
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unless his opinion changed during the 20 pgs... it's still kinda valid at least lol
i thought she did good with her video
i know some can manipulate it but it represents a valid view
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Have you read the whole thread, before dragging up something from 20 pages ago?
yeah
sorry... i didnt see how long it was when i started.... it was the "..." i didnt see
sorry lol
Fair enough, i was just checking your were not trying to reignite the flame war...
Peegai, it was 20 pages, most people dont spend an hour reading before making a post. And I could tell from her comment that she hadnt.
we don't have flame wars here. only heated discussions.
Thats one way of looking at it...
the thing is that some good can come from an unmoderated debate. dalling it a flame war is implying that it is bad, or wrong. it isn't here. it does not violate any TOS, and it is encouraged.
though, senseless flaming will probably be returned, tenfold.
Oh true good can come out of it otherwise i would not be here. I suppose flame war is the wrong terminology then.
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Have you read the whole thread, before dragging up something from 20 pages ago?
yeah
sorry... i didnt see how long it was when i started.... it was the "..." i didnt see
sorry lol
Fair enough, i was just checking your were not trying to reignite the flame war...
Peegai, it was 20 pages, most people dont spend an hour reading before making a post. And I could tell from her comment that she hadnt.
we don't have flame wars here. only heated discussions.
Thats one way of looking at it...
the thing is that some good can come from an unmoderated debate. dalling it a flame war is implying that it is bad, or wrong. it isn't here. it does not violate any TOS, and it is encouraged.
though, senseless flaming will probably be returned, tenfold.
Oh true good can come out of it otherwise i would not be here. I suppose flame war is the wrong terminology then.
are you willing to admit that you are ghey, then?
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Have you read the whole thread, before dragging up something from 20 pages ago?
yeah
sorry... i didnt see how long it was when i started.... it was the "..." i didnt see
sorry lol
Fair enough, i was just checking your were not trying to reignite the flame war...
Peegai, it was 20 pages, most people dont spend an hour reading before making a post. And I could tell from her comment that she hadnt.
we don't have flame wars here. only heated discussions.
Thats one way of looking at it...
the thing is that some good can come from an unmoderated debate. dalling it a flame war is implying that it is bad, or wrong. it isn't here. it does not violate any TOS, and it is encouraged.
though, senseless flaming will probably be returned, tenfold.
Oh true good can come out of it otherwise i would not be here. I suppose flame war is the wrong terminology then.
are you willing to admit that you are ghey, then?
For the umpteemth and one time, I AM NOT GHEY. Sorry McJ, i know you want me, but too bad...
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:ghey:
yes you are!
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:ghey:
yes you are!
Stop masterbated over your fantasies of me, McJ.
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:ghey:
yes you are!
Stop masterbated over your fantasies of me, McJ.
:squit:
finished!
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:ghey:
yes you are!
Stop masterbated over your fantasies of me, McJ.
:squit:
finished!
Can I eject the contents of my stomach then now?
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:ghey:
yes you are!
Stop masterbated over your fantasies of me, McJ.
:squit:
finished!
Can I eject the contents of my stomach then now?
how did you know that you were the yellow one?
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:LMAO:
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:ghey:
yes you are!
Stop masterbated over your fantasies of me, McJ.
:squit:
finished!
Can I eject the contents of my stomach then now?
how did you know that you were the yellow one?
I was guessing your fantasy. Sorry but fantising doesnt make things real, no matter how much you want them to be.
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:ghey:
yes you are!
Stop masterbated over your fantasies of me, McJ.
:squit:
finished!
Can I eject the contents of my stomach then now?
how did you know that you were the yellow one?
I was guessing your fantasy. Sorry but fantising doesnt make things real, no matter how much you want them to be.
yeah, well, i came didn't i. what more is there?
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i came didn't i?
what else is there?
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Are you talking to yourself... *runs away when mcj is busy indulging himself*