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Off to jail in cuffs, student who tweeted abuse about heart failure footballer Fabrice Muamba
Swansea University student pleaded guilty to a racially-aggravated public order offence to incite violence and will spend up to 56 days behind bars
21-year-old's initial message on Twitter was posted just moments after Muamba had collapsed
Biology undergraduate admitted to police he had sent the tweets after getting drunk watching Wales v France in the Six Nations rugby match
Bolton and Tottenham have replayed the FA Cup match that was called off when Muamba's heart stopped
By Luke Salkeld
PUBLISHED: 10:17, 27 March 2012 | UPDATED: 09:23, 28 March 2012
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A student who posted a series of racist comments on Twitter following footballer Fabrice Muamba’s cardiac arrest has begun a prison sentence of 56 days.
Liam Stacey, 21, caused widespread revulsion by reacting to Muamba’s mid-game collapse by writing: ‘LOL [laughing out loud], **** Muamba. He’s dead!!! #haha.’ He responded to criticism of that message with vile racist tweets.
The messages were forwarded to the police by several members of the social network, including former England striker Stan Collymore, himself a victim of abuse on Twitter.
Shame: Liam Stacey is led away in handcuffs outside Swansea Magistrates Court
Shame: Liam Stacey is led away in handcuffs outside Swansea Magistrates Court
Stacey initially claimed his account had been accessed by somebody else, but later pleaded guilty to racially aggravated harassment. He was sent to prison to ‘reflect the public outrage’ at his comments.
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As he spent his first night behind bars, the two teams most shaken by Muamba's collapse replayed the fixture that was called off when the midfielder came close to death.
Tottenham Hotspur and Bolton Wanderers met again at White Hart Lane, with the home team cruising to a 3-1 victory.
It means Muamba's club are now out of the FA Cup, but this hardly seemed to matter to the fans and players treating the match as a chance to pay tribute to him.
Stacey, seen arriving at the court earlier in the morning, posted a series of vile tweets about footballer Fabrice Muamba
Stacey, seen arriving at the court earlier in the morning, posted a series of vile tweets about footballer Fabrice Muamba
At the ground where the 23-year-old's heart stopped, his teammate Sam Ricketts was seen to wipe a tear from his eye before kick-off. It was a difficult return for the entire Bolton squad, and manager Owen Coyle commended them for their bravery.
Players from both sides wore T-shirts bearing messages of thanks to those who supported Muamba, while the whole of the Tottenham stadium erupted in applause for him.
Stacey, meanwhile, faces expulsion from Swansea University. The third-year biology student had hoped to become a forensic scientist. Describing his tweets, prosecutor Louise Barron told the court: ‘The offence is clearly racially aggravated.
‘There was sustained and gratuitous racism. These were unprovoked comments and persistent abuse. The recipients were disgusted.’
Jailing the student at Swansea Magistrates’ Court, District Judge John Charles said: ‘Not just the footballer’s family, not just the footballing world, but the whole world were literally praying for Muamba’s life. Your comments aggravated this situation.
‘I have no choice but to impose an immediate custodial sentence to reflect the public outrage at what you have done.’
Stacey made his comments about the Bolton Wanderers midfielder while celebrating the Welsh rugby team’s Six Nations grand slam victory earlier this month.
The judge added: ‘You committed this offence while you were drunk and it is clear you immediately regretted it.
'But you must learn how to handle your alcohol better.’
Stacey, from Pontypridd, South Wales, told police following his arrest at his student home in Swansea: ‘I was at the bar when I heard what had happened to Muamba.
'I don’t know why I posted [the comments]. I’m not racist and some of my friends are from different cultural backgrounds.’
He later sent a text message to a friend saying: ‘I said something about Muamba that I shouldn’t have and tweeted back to some people who abused me.
'Getting police on me now which isn’t good at all.’
Another read: ‘Been bawling my eyes out on the phone to my mother for the last hour, really can’t be dealing with this.’
Applause: Everybody clapped for Muamba at the start of the match (and below)
Applause: Everybody clapped for Muamba at the start of the match (and below)
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Gareth Jones, defending, said Stacey ‘does not bear [Muamba] any grudge and is glad he is making a good recovery’.
He continued: ‘My client simply lost his head and posted these disgusting comments to the bitter shame of himself and his parents.
'For a moment of madness, his career has now gone.’
Stacey’s father Neale, 49, and mother Hayley, 46, were visibly shocked when the details of his comments were read aloud yesterday.
Solidarity: Bolton's Nigel Reo-Coker (left) and Tottenham's Jermain Defoe shake hands
Solidarity: Bolton's Nigel Reo-Coker (left) and Tottenham's Jermain Defoe shake hands
Jim Brisbane, chief crown prosecutor for CPS Cymru-Wales, said: ‘Racist language is inappropriate in any setting and through any media.
'We hope this case will serve as a warning to anyone who may think that comments made online are somehow beyond the law.’
Muamba is said to be continuing to make good progress at the London Chest Hospital, where he was visited by his Bolton teammates ahead of their rescheduled match against Tottenham.
The game was abandoned on March 17 following Muamba’s collapse.
Upsetting: Fabrice Muamba's is treated by medical staff on Saturday after collapsing. A court heard that Liam Stacey, 21, posted mocking tweets as the midfielder was treated on the pitch
Upsetting: Fabrice Muamba is treated by medical staff after collapsing. Liam Stacey, 21, posted mocking tweets as the midfielder was treated on the pitch
'God is in control': Shauna Magunda, right, Fabrice Muamba's fiancee urged her Twitter followers to keep the Bolton player in their prayers as he fights for lifeHappier time: Shauna Magunda, right, Fabrice Muamba's fiancee, has urged fans to keep the Bolton player in their prayers as he continues to recover from a life-threatening condition
I think it is crazy. Lets jail anyone for saying nasty things - eh..the whole country would be behind bars. :facepalm2:
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Well, most people manage the 'free speech doesn't mean...' reasoning, so I don't know how you'd argue for proper 'free speech'. There never has been & never will be proper 'free speech', though. lols
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This is him, looks very mischeivous.
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01473/Liam-Stacey-21_mai_1473906a.jpg)
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I don't think this is just about free speech. I think it is just silly and lacks common sense to jail a student, who is doing very well in his degree, over some comments he made about a footballer who happens to be black when he was very drunk.
He could quite possibly lose his place at uni, and then what things is he going to learn in jail? What sort of person will he 'turn out' like?
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I think the whole thing of the media and politicians even noticing trolls is dumb as anything.
I saw Cameron in the Houses of P going on about how terrible facebook trolls who admired terrorists were and how he would stop it...the country's falling apart and he's got time to moderate facebook trolls? Lets have some priority. Most trolls are harmless in real life.
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I don't think this is just about free speech. I think it is just silly and lacks common sense to jail a student, who is doing very well in his degree, over some comments he made about a footballer who happens to be black when he was very drunk.
He could quite possibly lose his place at uni, and then what things is he going to learn in jail? What sort of person will he 'turn out' like?
I'm not arguing the other side, Bodie but he's unlikely to goto that bad a prison or learn anything 'useful' (in criminal terms) in there in 50 odd days. Sure, it seems OTT & all that; it's not up to me!
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One of my Lecturers went on about how stupid this is. At most the guy should've got a fine.
On a similar note, the whole recent "attack" on trolls etc. is only really a cover to bring in OTT internet laws, in my opinion. The recent BBC documentary comes into mind, despite all it's misinformation. Trolling according to the BBC is personally attacking others with your own views. Sadly that isn't true, trolling is PRETENDING to have the views in order to cause controversy, ie. pretending to be a hardcore christian in an athiest forum.
It's really ridiculous over in the UK, examples were trolling got people jailed for up to 18 weeks. The way they're going about it is almost if it's worse than rape, in a sense. I think people need to fucking grow up and not be such sensitive arseholes.
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I don't feel sorry for him. However I do think that the reason for the punishm,ent is more about being seen to do the "right thing". If teh target for his abuse was a local black kid there would not have been the jail time. It was someone famous and his notoriety in this fame and ifluence made the crime so much worse according to the public. Are we all equal under the law?
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It really needs to put the blame for violent actions where it belongs, entirely on the shoulders of the person doing such! Might as well throw that in here, too.
I don't feel sorry for him. However I do think that the reason for the punishm,ent is more about being seen to do the "right thing". If teh target for his abuse was a local black kid there would not have been the jail time. It was someone famous and his notoriety in this fame and ifluence made the crime so much worse according to the public. Are we all equal under the law?
Sorry, we never have been 'equal' under the law, Al, not like that; are you, down there? 8)
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It really needs to put the blame for violent actions where it belongs, entirely on the shoulders of the person doing such! Might as well throw that in here, too.
I don't feel sorry for him. However I do think that the reason for the punishm,ent is more about being seen to do the "right thing". If teh target for his abuse was a local black kid there would not have been the jail time. It was someone famous and his notoriety in this fame and ifluence made the crime so much worse according to the public. Are we all equal under the law?
Sorry, we never have been 'equal' under the law, Al, not like that; are you, down there? 8)
It is the theory vs practice. Here not at all.
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I was just about to launch into a slanderous attack on David Cameron, but, i better refrain.... in case they come and get me!
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Hit the nail on the head there Al, if it were a normal black kid we would not be talking about jail.
And where did 'violence' come into this? We are talking about words on twitter, there was no violence involved.
He didn't hurt anyone, only perhaps feelings. I think as more and more of the general population use the internet, we are going to have to now put up with OTT policing of it too.
I do feel somewhat sorry for the bloke - well, i will if he loses his uni place. It could affect him for the rest of his life. Just some silly drunk comment. Ridiculous.
Jail should only be used in the case of persistent offending. I would also argue the crime would have to be violent, and they would have to be deemed as a danger to the public.
This guy is just a kid. A silly drunk kid. The only danger he would represent to the public is puking on them outside the off licence.
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Replied to this more on zomg, but what annoys me most is the double standards and the way this is all being done because it was muamba and not just a regular guy. how many people online have been attacked and had really shit things said to/about them? would the people who attacked us end up in prison too? would they fuck. (not that I think they should do btw, I don't. but it shouldn't be one rule for famous people and another for everyone else)
I don't think being an asshole or making disgusting jokes should be illegal at all, nevermind end in a jail sentence.
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One of the reasons I'm glad to be American.
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jailed for something he said online? thats rediculous, the courts should be ashamed of themselves
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There should be harsh penalties for racist behavior. Maybe it will deter more violent racially motivated activity in real life. The guy looks like he could be a menace in real life as well. It's better they get him and send out a message to him now before he does something more serious.
It's funny too since I was partly banned from WP because I was offended by the terrible bashing of Whitney Houston after her death. Someone in her family should take up an action against WP for allowing something like that, in total contradiction to all the glorified rules they have...just shows the guy in charge doesn't know what he's doing, or even what he stands for IMO.
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You can't make shit opinions illegal
If action can be taken against people making comments like that on wp, who's to say people you've insulted here should'nt be able to take action against you?
Where do you ddraw the line and how do you decide what's ok to say and what isnt?
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Racism is a major issue not to be treated lightly and I personally agree with taking action against it, including hate speech. Words are very powerful and can cause a lot of harm. Maybe penalties will make people realize their words have power to injure and to think a little more about the consequences on both sides.
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This is part of the New World Order, where you can be sent to prison or even be killed for "thoughtcrimes".
Believe it or not, but all the racism that's happening right now, the elites are causing most of it, and they are using it to their advantage, so that they can divide the people and suppress free speech more and more.
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Racism is a major issue not to be treated lightly and I personally agree with taking action against it, including hate speech. Words are very powerful and can cause a lot of harm. Maybe penalties will make people realize their words have power to injure and to think a little more about the consequences on both sides.
but where do you draw the line? just racism? homophobia? sexism? what forms of sexism? religiously fuelled homophobia? general hate spoeech directed at an individual person? in that case a lot of people here would end up in prison
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Yeah, it's weird, that. So, it's racism; how, exactly, is that so much worse than all the other stuff that doesn't have such a label? The abuse I got at school would have been 'racist', if I'd happened to have coloured skin & similarly for just about anybody on this site!
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This is part of the New World Order, where you can be sent to prison or even be killed for "thoughtcrimes".
Believe it or not, but all the racism that's happening right now, the elites are causing most of it, and they are using it to their advantage, so that they can divide the people and suppress free speech more and more.
I think this is paranoia producing propaganda driven by conservative republicans right now and directed largely to Christian populations who feed so well on it, but that's just my opinion.
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Racism is a major issue not to be treated lightly and I personally agree with taking action against it, including hate speech. Words are very powerful and can cause a lot of harm. Maybe penalties will make people realize their words have power to injure and to think a little more about the consequences on both sides.
but where do you draw the line? just racism? homophobia? sexism? what forms of sexism? religiously fuelled homophobia? general hate spoeech directed at an individual person? in that case a lot of people here would end up in prison
I draw the line at racism right now. People tend to think homosexuality is a choice and not a condition people are born with and maybe if/when that changes it might be looked at differently. Having many gay people as friends I have grown to believe they are born not made and until social consciousness catches up and gay issues are better understood it isn't going to be considered as equally relevant as racial issues. Maybe the line is...can a person help what color they are, what sex they are or what sexual orientation they are, etc..? Why do people want to hate others for things they can do nothing about? Why not explain that to me? I personally don't understand the desire in the first place.
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Racism is a major issue not to be treated lightly and I personally agree with taking action against it, including hate speech. Words are very powerful and can cause a lot of harm. Maybe penalties will make people realize their words have power to injure and to think a little more about the consequences on both sides.
Are you white?
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Racism is a major issue not to be treated lightly and I personally agree with taking action against it, including hate speech. Words are very powerful and can cause a lot of harm. Maybe penalties will make people realize their words have power to injure and to think a little more about the consequences on both sides.
Are you white?
very....what a stupid question
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Racism is a major issue not to be treated lightly and I personally agree with taking action against it, including hate speech. Words are very powerful and can cause a lot of harm. Maybe penalties will make people realize their words have power to injure and to think a little more about the consequences on both sides.
Are you white?
very....what a stupid question
Then what the fuck do you know about racism?
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What an idiot!
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What an idiot!
I know. You need to work on that sweetie :apondering:
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There should be harsh penalties for racist behavior. Maybe it will deter more violent racially motivated activity in real life. The guy looks like he could be a menace in real life as well. It's better they get him and send out a message to him now before he does something more serious.
It's funny too since I was partly banned from WP because I was offended by the terrible bashing of Whitney Houston after her death. Someone in her family should take up an action against WP for allowing something like that, in total contradiction to all the glorified rules they have...just shows the guy in charge doesn't know what he's doing, or even what he stands for IMO.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/27/article-2121003-125B3E83000005DC-922_634x588.jpg)I am puzzled why does he look like a menace in real life? Should we jail people simply because they look a certain way - is that not a classic case of prejudice?
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Yeah that's a ridiculous view. And strangely enough, if that was the case, then a lot of autistic people would probably end up getting locked up for looking dodgy and acting a bit weird, and hey, y'know, wasn't that virginia tech guy autistic? etc etc
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His ears are too big for him to look menacing
dumbo maybe, or a jug :hahaha:
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It isn't about the way he looks. A lot of criminals, for example, look perfectly normal. It's about inciting hatred, and yes he does have a menacing look...reminds me of a racist in Texas who chained a man to his pickup truck and drove him to his death. Racism is so ignorant and people who incite hatred should be dealt with. He's just being taught a lesson before he goes any further along that path.
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He doesn't look menacing to me! How he looks shouldn't really affect his sentence.
His sentence should be in line with other similar 'crimes'. It isn't. That is what is annoying. A first offence for an assault in this country is unlikely to get you a stretch, maybe a suspended, so this particular judgement is very unusual.
What i find ironic is the police are well known for being racist, just check their 'stop and search' figures. Check the Police Complaints figures. Check the ratio of black people in prison compared to white?
The fact is the comments were made about someone famous. As Al said earlier, if it had been directed at some black kid no one had heard of it wouldn't be a jail term.
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Racism is a manifestation of a particular trait of human nature, we naturally show fear/distrust (in some form or another) to what's different to us. This was quite handy back in the stone age, when it was considered an essential survival skill.
Nowadays there really isn't much room for racism, but we still hold onto that instinct. It doesn't just apply to races though, but the same instinct kicks in from loyalty of products (console fanboys) to differing opinions.
I do think racism won't go away at all, if anything it's just masked. However people act like it doesn't happen and mask their own racism with PC terminology and "battling" racism. Even funnier these people are often white and don't represent the races they're battling for. Put those same people in a black neighbourhood and I will bet you they'll feel uncomfortable, even if the blacks in the neighbourhood are quite friendly and never cause trouble.
The best way I think is for people to accept it does happen and thicken their skin. Learn to understand one another in an honest manner rather than throw it under a rug and pretend we're living in a happy multicultural society, because to be frank the very notion of "multiculturalism" does not work at all at this very moment. Too many double standards, unwillingless to intregrate and people willing to exploit various legal aspects by using the "race card".
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It has nothing to do with how he looks...Get over it! Rich people have more money and likewise can afford to file lawsuits and press charges. That's life! Get used to it!
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No, meadow, what i am saying is how he looks SHOULDN'T affect his sentence. This was not a private lawsuit. This was the police taking action about some words on a message board.
One minute you are saying the colour of someones skin is not something they can help, then on the other hand you are saying 'well he looks a menace anyway'.... he was born with his looks too, and can't really help it! :apondering:
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His looks aren't the issue. Yeesh!
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No, meadow, what i am saying is how he looks SHOULDN'T affect his sentence. This was not a private lawsuit. This was the police taking action about some words on a message board.
One minute you are saying the colour of someones skin is not something they can help, then on the other hand you are saying 'well he looks a menace anyway'.... he was born with his looks too, and can't really help it! :apondering:
I agree.
He shouldn't have said what he did and there's just no defending it, but I don't think he should be sent to prison for it. Maybe he should do some community service instead.
I also agree that if the person he had insulted had been an ordinary Joe, the police wouldn't have even pursued it.
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I agree on repeating what other people said.
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Racial hatred on the Internet shouldn't be tolerated. Maybe people will get the message.
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I do agree with Adam's post though. We all like to get rid of things we don't like, but censorship will lead to more censorship, up until the point that it's impossible to say anything about anyone. It undermines the very idea of freedom of speech/expression.
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"but the whole world were literally praying for Muamba’s life." Er, no we weren't. I didn't even know about it until the next day. Then I saw a tiny bit on the news about it.
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I may not agree with what you say,
but to the death I will defend your right to say it
Voltaire (allegedly)
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ren, who were u quoting there? about the whole world i mean
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Expect some news source? Sounds like their usual ridiculous exaggeration for such a thing!
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ren, who were u quoting there? about the whole world i mean
It is in bodaccea's original post, about halfway down, where the judge was talking about the sentencing.
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That was from The Daily Mail then
- that is Adam's favourite read :zoinks:
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It was pretty obviously from some news source! Though this thread was the 1st I'd heard of this Muamba chap, at all. 'The whole world praying...', given there'd be plenty of people who didn't hear about it, plenty of those who do couldn't care less, plenty don't believe in any God to pray to.... Typical media, what'd the term, hyperbole! lol
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One of the reasons I'm glad to be American.
Ironically. So is he probably
COPS Gone Wild (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5MSdORQI_U#)
Raw Video: Police Slam Wrong Man Into a Wall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9llvTQn8v-c#)
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It was pretty obviously from some news source! Though this thread was the 1st I'd heard of this Muamba chap, at all. 'The whole world praying...', given there'd be plenty of people who didn't hear about it, plenty of those who do couldn't care less, plenty don't believe in any God to pray to.... Typical media, what'd the term, hyperbole! lol
Judges say the most stupidest things sometimes and are often out of touch with reality. I believe the newspaper was just quoting what had been said in court.
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One of the reasons I'm glad to be American.
Ironically. So is he probably
Oh, I've had my share of shitty experiences with cops. They've never actually been violent with me, though they have threatened it. But at least I know they're not gonna come looking for me based on shit I say online.
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It's incredibly stupid. Can you imagine the amount of people being jailed for stuff like this? Anything more than a fine is idiotic. The UK is becoming a scary place.
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Lock 'em up!
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Well, I'd rather goto prison for something I did do than get beaten up by cops for something I didn't do, personally but that's just me. Just about all of us agree that that troll going to prison was, at least, OTT, though. lol
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I don't have any sympathy for internet trolls. Jail time sounds good to me. From what I read, he was released on bail anyway.
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Yep, we gathered that, Meadow! (U shouldn't need me to tell you that you're entirely entitled to absolutely any opinion at all about anything at all). lols
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Yep, we gathered that, Meadow! (U shouldn't need me to tell you that you're entirely entitled to absolutely any opinion at all about anything at all). herp derp
I hope you get jail time in the near future, too.
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What is trolling anyway? I have been accused of trolling when I wasn't trying to. A lot of people misinterpret things. Do you think it's fair for someone who is genuinely clueless to be jailed just because a few people agreed he's a "troll"?
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I'm not the judge in his case so I wouldn't worry about him on my account. I'm against racism and trolls who bash others on the internet don't have my sympathy.
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Yep, we gathered that, Meadow! (U shouldn't need me to tell you that you're entirely entitled to absolutely any opinion at all about anything at all). herp derp
@ bruce
Why do you continuously use the word 'we' instead of 'I'
You might ought quit speakin for us.
You do it because, you realise your words carry no weight.
So you wish to seem more important than you are.
Keep in mind you are the square peg trying to fit in the round hole, even in the world of Autists.
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The media have incorrectly labelled him as a troll. A troll is someone who expresses an opinion to stir up trouble. I think Schleed said it earlier, like an athiest on a religious site.
This guy just made a few tweets.
Bail is something granted while you await your trial. Once sentence has been passed there is no 'bail'.
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It's always the fault of alcohol, or something else. He'll be fine and probably capitalize on his publicity. Negative publicity works well that way and lots of sympathizers too. I don't feel sorry for him at all.
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It's always the fault of alcohol, or something else. He'll be fine and probably capitalize on his publicity. Negative publicity works well that way and lots of sympathizers too. I don't feel sorry for him at all.
I don't feel sorry for him either, but I still think that jail time for nothing more than words is a bit ridiculous.
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It's always the fault of alcohol, or something else. He'll be fine and probably capitalize on his publicity. Negative publicity works well that way and lots of sympathizers too. I don't feel sorry for him at all.
I don't feel sorry for him either, but I still think that jail time for nothing more than words is a bit ridiculous.
The relatives who thought they were losing their child during all that think it's fair, undoubtedly. A few days in jail isn't going to hurt him and I personally think it's fair under the circumstances.
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It's always the fault of alcohol, or something else. He'll be fine and probably capitalize on his publicity. Negative publicity works well that way and lots of sympathizers too. I don't feel sorry for him at all.
I don't feel sorry for him either, but I still think that jail time for nothing more than words is a bit ridiculous.
The relatives who thought they were losing their child during all that think it's fair, undoubtedly. A few days in jail isn't going to hurt him and I personally think it's fair under the circumstances.
What happened wasn't his fault. And what the family thought was fair isn't relevant. Go by what "victims" think is fair, and they'll be executing people for cutting them off on the freeway.
It's not about whether the prison time will do him harm, but about the fact that this sentence will convince others with unpopular opinions to keep their mouths shut. The whole idea of free speech is to protect unpopular (and yes, even outright offensive) speech. If we are only allowed to express popular, gov't approved, opinions then speech isn't free at all.
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It's always the fault of alcohol, or something else. He'll be fine and probably capitalize on his publicity. Negative publicity works well that way and lots of sympathizers too. I don't feel sorry for him at all.
I don't feel sorry for him either, but I still think that jail time for nothing more than words is a bit ridiculous.
The relatives who thought they were losing their child during all that think it's fair, undoubtedly. A few days in jail isn't going to hurt him and I personally think it's fair under the circumstances.
What happened wasn't his fault. And what the family thought was fair isn't relevant. Go by what "victims" think is fair, and they'll be executing people for cutting them off on the freeway.
It's not about whether the prison time will do him harm, but about the fact that this sentence will convince others with unpopular opinions to keep their mouths shut. The whole idea of free speech is to protect unpopular (and yes, even outright offensive) speech. If we are only allowed to express popular, gov't approved, opinions then speech isn't free at all.
Quite. Although, well, just :CanofWorms:
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I find it interesting, Meadow, that you have no sympathy for people who shoot their mouths and say 'unpopular things'
Since you have been here you have called me a slut, wished death on everyone, wanted to see someone raped with a broom, implied odeon is a rapist, and said countless vile and nasty other things - all which are on a par with what this student said that landed him in jail.
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I find it interesting, Meadow, that you have no sympathy for people who shoot their mouths and say 'unpopular things'
Since you have been here you have called me a slut, wished death on everyone, wanted to see someone raped with a broom, implied odeon is a rapist, and said countless vile and nasty other things - all which are on a par with what this student said that landed him in jail.
It is very interesting and also ironic. If people should be jailed for saying unkind things on the internet then Meadow is hoist with her own petard.
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Since you have been here you have called me a slut, wished death on everyone, wanted to see someone raped with a broom, implied odeon is a rapist, and said countless vile and nasty other things - all which are on a par with what this student said that landed him in jail.
She sounds charming.
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Well, I'm not sure I'd expect U to mind being called a slut, Bodie? >:D But raped with a broom & (effectively) calling Odeon a rapist, I do agree & was sure somebody would point that out to Meadow! I expect she'll find some 'differences' to excuse/ justify herself, the same anybody else would do. 8)
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Well i would mind actually. If it were somebody with any credibility saying it.
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Aww! It probably also depends how it comes across, though; that could be meant/ taken as a compliment. Anyway, it'll be interesting to read Meadow's reply to your post (if she does one, of course). Besides, my asshole hurts!
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Oh i don't think anyone needs to be Sherlock Holmes to anticipate what her response is likely to be.
I suppose the only important thing is how i view myself to be, and i would not say a 'slut'. Saying that, in my time here i have come to value certain individuals opinions. Fortunately, Meadow isn't one of them.
:fun dance:
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Well, I've predicted her likely response, if any, already! Where's that dancing smiley here, btw? 8)
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Oh i don't think anyone needs to be Sherlock Holmes to anticipate what her response is likely to be.
I suppose the only important thing is how i view myself to be, and i would not say a 'slut'. Saying that, in my time here i have come to value certain individuals opinions. Fortunately, Meadow isn't one of them.
:fun dance:
If she knew you, I don't see how she could possibly call you a slut. I'm glad that you don't value her opinion of you since it's based on nothing but her imagination.
Bruce, if you type :fun dance: that should produce the smiley for you, or you could click on more smileys. If you are curious about a smiley's shortcut, you could always quote the person's post to see it even if it's a hidden one.
:fun dance:
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OK, thanks; I prefer the GUI version, never learned much of the codey stuff. Couldn't find it here, should have just right clicked image, copy URL & pasted, with the 'image' thing, like:
(http://www.intensitysquared.com/Smileys/default/sFun_dancing.gif)
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You guys are a joke! When people group together and bash someone just because a group of people think it's fun then you get what you deserve. Giving long nasty descriptive paragraphs disparaging me warrants a minor insult of slut. Get over it, Twat!
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You guys are a joke! When people group together and bash someone just because a group of people think it's fun then you get what you deserve. Giving long nasty descriptive paragraphs disparaging me warrants a minor insult of slut. Get over it, Twat!
So, what if someone calls you a slut or a twat over your nasty paragraphs disparaging other people? Would you figure that it's just a minor insult compared to what you have dished out yourself and you are just getting back what you deserve or would you cry over your spaghetti?
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Chill, Meadow! :police: You're not doing yourself any favors with that language, honestly! Take some long deep breaths & post a more thought out & calmer version, huh? (Sure, I'm 1 to talk, with all my 'spam', huh?) :squiddy:
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Ho's can dish it out but Ho's can't take it. :hahaha:
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Yay, Sybill is back :zoinks:
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Ho's can dish it out but Ho's can't take it. :hahaha:
Why not quote whatever Bodie called you, then? I missed those posts! :squiddy:
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Yay, Sybill is back :zoinks:
Wasn't Sybill a fraud cooked up by her psychiatrist feeding her lots of drugs like sodium pentothal? I remember her writing a letter saying that she was just acting out the different personalities.
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Ho's can dish it out but Ho's can't take it. :hahaha:
Is that what you keep telling yourself?
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It's always the fault of alcohol, or something else. He'll be fine and probably capitalize on his publicity. Negative publicity works well that way and lots of sympathizers too. I don't feel sorry for him at all.
I don't feel sorry for him either, but I still think that jail time for nothing more than words is a bit ridiculous.
The relatives who thought they were losing their child during all that think it's fair, undoubtedly. A few days in jail isn't going to hurt him and I personally think it's fair under the circumstances.
What the relatives think is fair should make no difference. And a month in jail definitely could "hurt" someone
I sure as hell wouldn't want to spend one night in jail
I've had some pretty awful things said to me on the internet before (just as bad as what this guy said, and said directly to me, repeeatedly). Should those people be sent to prison for that too? Should EVERYONE who posts shit like that online be put in prison, or just the racist ones?
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It's always the fault of alcohol, or something else. He'll be fine and probably capitalize on his publicity. Negative publicity works well that way and lots of sympathizers too. I don't feel sorry for him at all.
I don't feel sorry for him either, but I still think that jail time for nothing more than words is a bit ridiculous.
The relatives who thought they were losing their child during all that think it's fair, undoubtedly. A few days in jail isn't going to hurt him and I personally think it's fair under the circumstances.
What happened wasn't his fault. And what the family thought was fair isn't relevant. Go by what "victims" think is fair, and they'll be executing people for cutting them off on the freeway.
It's not about whether the prison time will do him harm, but about the fact that this sentence will convince others with unpopular opinions to keep their mouths shut. The whole idea of free speech is to protect unpopular (and yes, even outright offensive) speech. If we are only allowed to express popular, gov't approved, opinions then speech isn't free at all.
Read any law book and you'll see a straight line can't be drawn through anything. There are numerous and sometimes countless shades of gray between black and white. My only suggestion to you is screw on your thinking cap and get busy, and good luck because it looks like you're going to need it.
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Adam, you have to be able to know where the lines are for yourself, and when we get it wrong sometimes we have to pay the consequence.
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Meadow, out of your plethora of personalities, do you have any funnier than that one...cus that one is starting to get a bit...stale?
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Meadow, out of your plethora of personalities, do you have any funnier than that one...cus that one is starting to get a bit...stale?
Oooh? Miaow? :mischief:
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It's always the fault of alcohol, or something else. He'll be fine and probably capitalize on his publicity. Negative publicity works well that way and lots of sympathizers too. I don't feel sorry for him at all.
I don't feel sorry for him either, but I still think that jail time for nothing more than words is a bit ridiculous.
The relatives who thought they were losing their child during all that think it's fair, undoubtedly. A few days in jail isn't going to hurt him and I personally think it's fair under the circumstances.
What happened wasn't his fault. And what the family thought was fair isn't relevant. Go by what "victims" think is fair, and they'll be executing people for cutting them off on the freeway.
It's not about whether the prison time will do him harm, but about the fact that this sentence will convince others with unpopular opinions to keep their mouths shut. The whole idea of free speech is to protect unpopular (and yes, even outright offensive) speech. If we are only allowed to express popular, gov't approved, opinions then speech isn't free at all.
Read any law book and you'll see a straight line can't be drawn through anything. There are numerous and sometimes countless shades of gray between black and white. My only suggestion to you is screw on your thinking cap and get busy, and good luck because it looks like you're going to need it.
Cute. Name a "law book" please :)
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What a dope!
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He studies law, at the highest level. In other words 'he knows his stuff' and is not a 'dope'.
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I said honestly that your art is nice, but I'll be honest about this too.
You insult people yet you can't take it when people insult you. So what if Bodie is in your eyes a "slut"? You can't just say that without at least expecting a nasty response, after all as the biblical saying goes: "an eye for an eye".
I don't hate you as a person, I'm aware you have issues and personal problems. I can also somewhat relate since I too don't like the majority of humans. But life will get harder if you act like this towards people and not expect consequences. If you want love from people, you need to show a little back.
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If Brodie want's to call me a nut case in too many words, she can handle being called a Ho. Too fuckin' bad. You have a problem Schleed because I didn't reply to your PM. Everyone has a bone to pick. Enjoy!
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Erm, I don't really have a problem, after all if you don't want to talk to me on a personal manner than that's okay. I'm not the kind of person who gets offended. :P
If you have a problem with people then don't put petrol onto the flames, it'll only get worse. Unless you want to, but to me it's obvious that you want people to leave you alone.
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Erm, I don't really have a problem, after all if you don't want to talk to me on a personal manner than that's okay. I'm not the kind of person who gets offended. :P
If you have a problem with people then don't put petrol onto the flames, it'll only get worse. Unless you want to, but to me it's obvious that you want people to leave you alone.
Shove it up your quagmire ass. :tard:
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Read any law book and you'll see a straight line can't be drawn through anything. There are numerous and sometimes countless shades of gray between black and white. My only suggestion to you is screw on your thinking cap and get busy, and good luck because it looks like you're going to need it.
And what, exactly, does this have to do with what I said?
Are you condemning black and white thinking?
I mean, you're the one shouting "lock up all the racists!" while I condemn his actions but realize that legal action is not the way to go. So which one of us is having trouble seeing the shades of gray.
I pulled the "I know you are but what am I?" defence from those "law books."
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I don't know how I'm going to put 1s and 0s up my bumhole. Perhaps I can shove the LAN cable into it. :apondering:
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That's a good thought Schleed, and I can't otherwise talk to idiots. It never ends with that set.
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Well, I'd rather goto prison for something I did do than get beaten up by cops for something I didn't do, personally but that's just me. Just about all of us agree that that troll going to prison was, at least, OTT, though. herp derp
Personally, I'd rather take a beating and get it over with. At least while I'm recuperating I'll be free.
Still, would you rather go to prison for something you did that shouldn't have been illegal in the first place? 'cause I don't see a big practical distinction between that and being punished for something you didn't do.
Emphasis on the practical, obviously I realize there is a difference.
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That's a good thought Schleed, and I can't otherwise talk to idiots. It never ends with that set.
I'm an idiot, but I don't think disagreeing with you constitutes as idiocy. People disagree all the time, even close friends and couples. Just part of life, if you expect compliance in every level then it'll just make things harder for yourself.
I am an honest person, I already have stated that quite a few times. I will honestly like your art, but if you insult people then I'll be honest about that too. To pretend to be nice for the latter is not honesty and is actually being two-faced - you don't like two-faced people right?
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That's a good thought Schleed, and I can't otherwise talk to idiots. It never ends with that set.
I'm an idiot, but I don't think disagreeing with you constitutes as idiocy. People disagree all the time, even close friends and couples. Just part of life, if you expect compliance in every level then it'll just make things harder for yourself.
I am an honest person, I already have stated that quite a few times. I will honestly like your art, but if you insult people then I'll be honest about that too. To pretend to be nice for the latter is not honesty and is actually being two-faced - you don't like two-faced people right?
You're talking out your ass, Schleed.
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I beg to differ.
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I'd rather take a beating than go to prison, assuming the beating wasn't bad enough to put me in some kinda vegetative state or something
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What a fuckin' dope! I've been over it already and not going over it again because I doubt the fourth time would make any difference to a dunce.
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I don't really have a problem with her being doolally at certain times. She started the ho/ slut thing immediately after i told her she was a bit low to pull out the old 'rapist' card. Since then i have been labelled as a rampant sexual deviant. Hmm :eyelash:
I am hardly likely to go following her around the site, or commenting on her posts. She just showed up in this thread banging on about how nasty comments on the internet warrant a prison term. So rich coming from her. She is the most venomous, vile mouthed, toxic mo fo i have encountered on the internet. Pot, kettle and black come to mind. :apondering:
@ Meadow. If i have made comments implying you are a nut case, that is because you behave like one.
You say i am a slut / ho, what draws you to that conclusion?
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Didn't Meadow used to have sex for money (rent, gifts, etc)? Doesn't that make her a confirmed prostitute?
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There are no IF's about it, and guess the truth hurts a Ho something fierce. Too fuckin' bad. If you dish it out, then you can take it too.
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There are no IF's about it, and guess the truth hurts a Ho something fierce. Too fuckin' bad. If you dish it out, then you can take it too.
This is the Meadow I enjoy the most. :autism:
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I notice how she puts a capital H for ho. It makes me feel kind of special. :zoinks:
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There are no IF's about it, and guess the truth hurts a Ho something fierce. Too fuckin' bad. If you dish it out, then you can take it too.
This is the Meadow I enjoy the most. :autism:
:agreed:
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Didn't Meadow used to have sex for money (rent, gifts, etc)? Doesn't that make her a confirmed prostitute?
Being a prostitute is defined as having sex for money, rent, gifts, etc.
So yes, I think that would make her a confirmed prostitute, or possibly a former prostitute, assuming she's not still having sex for money, rent, gifts, etc.
Given her answer to your post about the truth hurting a Ho something fierce and dishing it out and taking it, maybe she hasn't stopped.
Meadow, have you stopped having sex for money?
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Dunno about 'Delicate Flower...'
perhaps should be 'Venus Fly Trap of the Aspie Elite' :hahaha:
When did she say she used to screw for gifts, rent etc? Oh my! At least i dish it out for free :hahaha:
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Didn't Meadow used to have sex for money (rent, gifts, etc)? Doesn't that make her a confirmed prostitute?
Being a prostitute is defined as having sex for money, rent, gifts, etc.
So yes, I think that would make her a confirmed prostitute, or possibly a former prostitute, assuming she's not still having sex for money, rent, gifts, etc.
Given her answer to your post about the truth hurting a Ho something fierce and dishing it out and taking it, maybe she hasn't stopped.
Meadow, have you stopped having sex for money?
That's what I thought. So she can call people "Ho" and have it mean nothing. We can call her a "Whore" and it's just the truth.
Floozy
Tramp
Hustler
Harlot
Hooker
Hussy
Strumpet
Streetwalker
Slut
Skank
Loving it already
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I'm asexual, fuckwit, and always have been. Just because you are Ho's doesn't mean everyone is. Some of us have skills and don't have to resort to selling ass.
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So, you claim to live in a big house. If it ain't your art that's paying for it, what do you do for a living?
I have said it before. I am loved.
Hooker :hahaha:
I was in child protective custody by the time I was 14 because of VD.
Skank :hahaha:
I was gang raped when I was thirteen.
Whore :hahaha:
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I'm asexual, fuckwit, and always have been. Just because you are Ho's doesn't mean everyone is. Some of us have skills and don't have to resort to selling ass.
Are you black or something?
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Well, I'd rather goto prison for something I did do than get beaten up by cops for something I didn't do, personally but that's just me. Just about all of us agree that that troll going to prison was, at least, OTT, though. herp derp
Personally, I'd rather take a beating and get it over with. At least while I'm recuperating I'll be free.
Still, would you rather go to prison for something you did that shouldn't have been illegal in the first place? 'cause I don't see a big practical distinction between that and being punished for something you didn't do.
Emphasis on the practical, obviously I realize there is a difference.
What was it, 50 days? Sure, I did a lot longer than that for 'aggravated assault' & I don't agree with there being such a crime, at all. Obviously, I'd rather there weren't crimes I disagree with but, practically, I can't fight the system. Overall, we have it very good in England; there's always room for improvements & progress. Mostly due to not being able to fix the underlying problems of 'human nature' including all sorts of things. Then, they keep trying to 'fix' it with, like, plasters & bandages, which doesn't work too well but is better than nothing. ::)
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Fact that I don't get along well with you people is only good for me. I can better spend my time more productively where I need to instead of waste it on tard-face fucks like you. Low-life abusing fucktards is all this forum is about. It was inevitable I wouldn't last. I hope I gave you a taste of your own medicine, tardface fuckwits.
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Fact that I don't get along well with you people is only good for me. I can better spend my time more productively where I need to instead of waste it on tard-face fucks like you. Low-life abusing fucktards is all this forum is about. It was inevitable I wouldn't last. I hope I gave you a taste of your own medicine, tardface fuckwits.
Well, go & spend your time more productively, Meadow? I think you'd get on better in, say, AFF, than here. If you really are going, now, of course...?
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Yes, please, go, back, to, AFF, please... okay?
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I'm not going to AFF. It's the same there or worse, fucktards.
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I can't even believe you're telling me to go there. How stupid. I'm allergic to you.
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You've never seen me actually trying to troll you. Be lucky you haven't had that honour.
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It's mostly power-mongering, fuckface Odeon and his sick scumrats. I'm not interested in AFF either. I've had enough of the so called aspie elite.
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Arrested for trolling? Well fuck, might as imprison the entire population. Everyone is guilty of some form of trolling or saying highly inappropriate remarks. How do they define incitement to cause violence from saying a few words? Was he advocating a flash mob or call to arms? If not it's ridiculous.
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You've never seen me actually trying to troll you. Be lucky you haven't had that honour.
Oh bless you high and mighty tardface. That is so laughable
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Arrested for trolling? Well fuck, might as imprison the entire population. Everyone is guilty of some form of trolling or saying highly inappropriate remarks. How do they define incitement to cause violence from saying a few words? Was he advocating a flash mob or call to arms? If not it's ridiculous.
On Facebook they are real persons directing it at real life people. Doh!
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It's mostly power-mongering, fuckface Odeon and his sick scumrats. I'm not interested in AFF either. I've had enough of the so called aspie elite.
Well if you got up from your lazy fat arse, maybe one day you'd be liked. Perhaps getting raped by daddy (as he called you stoopid Ho) hasn't helped, after all you do need food for comfort right? :orly:
You've never seen me actually trying to troll you. Be lucky you haven't had that honour.
Oh bless you high and mighty tardface. That is so laughable
Laughable? The only person who's laughable is you. You're a trogdolyte bint with no purpose of life and despite shitting out artwork you can't even hold onto a conversation without smearing the screen with your greasy, fishy fingers. Fucking hell I can smell them fingers all the way from here, 3000+ miles away.
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:facepalm:
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Arrested for trolling? Well fuck, might as imprison the entire population. Everyone is guilty of some form of trolling or saying highly inappropriate remarks. How do they define incitement to cause violence from saying a few words? Was he advocating a flash mob or call to arms? If not it's ridiculous.
On Facebook they are real persons directing it at real life people. Doh!
Facebook eh? Well can't help they're idiots for having a public profile in the first place. :zoinks:
Use any social networking medium and you inherit the risks. It's the equivalent to going to a pub and hearing some drunks mouth off at you obscenely. I don't see cops clearing out entire pubs after a few exchanges of terrible words.
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I'm not the judge in his case so I wouldn't worry about him on my account. I'm against racism and trolls who bash others on the internet don't have my sympathy.
Some people think you're a troll. How would you feel if enough people got together and decided you were a troll and convinced law enforcement you were a menace and had you arrested for your posts here? It is a scary thought because words can be misunderstood and people like BruceCM have a posting style that is very hard to understand. What makes you think if there was such a law that you wouldn't be in trouble for some of the mean things you say?
Everyone is equally guilty of throwing feces in the monkey house.
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You have a real talent there schleed, no doubt about it. It could take you far, if not for the shit staring you back in the mirror everyday. Good luck with it. The best you can do is just that, fuckface.
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I don't rely on people for my confidence, so anything you're going to do is just not going to work on me. At all.
Remember how it felt as daddy forced his cock into you? I bet you secretly liked it.
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I'm not the judge in his case so I wouldn't worry about him on my account. I'm against racism and trolls who bash others on the internet don't have my sympathy.
Some people think you're a troll. How would you feel if enough people got together and decided you were a troll and convinced law enforcement you were a menace and had you arrested for your posts here? It is a scary thought because words can be misunderstood and people like BruceCM have a posting style that is very hard to understand. What makes you think if there was such a law that you wouldn't be in trouble for some of the mean things you say?
I give people back exactly what they give me, as anyone with half a brain would recognize. I'm not the least bit concerned. I've been treated like dirt by those people here and they deserve every bit I've given back to them.
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I'm not the judge in his case so I wouldn't worry about him on my account. I'm against racism and trolls who bash others on the internet don't have my sympathy.
Some people think you're a troll. How would you feel if enough people got together and decided you were a troll and convinced law enforcement you were a menace and had you arrested for your posts here? It is a scary thought because words can be misunderstood and people like BruceCM have a posting style that is very hard to understand. What makes you think if there was such a law that you wouldn't be in trouble for some of the mean things you say?
I give people back exactly what they give me, as anyone with half a brain would recognize. I'm not the least bit concerned. I've been treated like dirt by those people here and they deserve every bit I've given back to them.
Boo fucking hoo. You're a sad waste of semen so it's only natural. :hahaha:
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I'm not the judge in his case so I wouldn't worry about him on my account. I'm against racism and trolls who bash others on the internet don't have my sympathy.
Some people think you're a troll. How would you feel if enough people got together and decided you were a troll and convinced law enforcement you were a menace and had you arrested for your posts here? It is a scary thought because words can be misunderstood and people like BruceCM have a posting style that is very hard to understand. What makes you think if there was such a law that you wouldn't be in trouble for some of the mean things you say?
I give people back exactly what they give me, as anyone with half a brain would recognize. I'm not the least bit concerned. I've been treated like dirt by those people here and they deserve every bit I've given back to them.
So what did Bruce do to warrant you attacking him? I saw him defending you.
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I don't rely on people for my confidence, so anything you're going to do is just not going to work on me. At all.
Remember how it felt as daddy forced his cock into you? I bet you secretly liked it.
You're an evil retard...no surprise there, Ugly Bastard.
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I'm not the judge in his case so I wouldn't worry about him on my account. I'm against racism and trolls who bash others on the internet don't have my sympathy.
Some people think you're a troll. How would you feel if enough people got together and decided you were a troll and convinced law enforcement you were a menace and had you arrested for your posts here? It is a scary thought because words can be misunderstood and people like BruceCM have a posting style that is very hard to understand. What makes you think if there was such a law that you wouldn't be in trouble for some of the mean things you say?
I give people back exactly what they give me, as anyone with half a brain would recognize. I'm not the least bit concerned. I've been treated like dirt by those people here and they deserve every bit I've given back to them.
So what did Bruce do to warrant you attacking him? I saw him defending you.
He was fucking with me throughout, as if you're oblivious to it.
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I don't rely on people for my confidence, so anything you're going to do is just not going to work on me. At all.
Remember how it felt as daddy forced his cock into you? I bet you secretly liked it.
You're an evil retard...no surprise there, Ugly Bastard.
I may be an ugly bastard, but at least I am not some overly-narcissistic cunt who thinks everyone should kiss my arse and agree with everything I say. As a misathrophe I despise people like you, IRL at least.
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^ It's people like you who make people like me, Ugly Evil Bastard.
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It's people like me who make you alright, you are correct. We get drunk and accidentally fuck the local diseased whore and the likes of you are born. KILL ME, EVERY MOMENT I LIVE IS AGONY are your first words.
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^ It's people like you who make people like me, Ugly Evil Bastard.
And it's people like you who provide glorious lulz to the world for people to laugh at. Thanks for playing. :toporly:
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It's people like me who make you alright, you are correct. We get drunk and accidentally fuck the local diseased whore and the likes of you are born. KILL ME, EVERY MOMENT I LIVE IS AGONY are your first words.
Those are not my words, they're your words...the words of a mentally retarded sack of good for nothing Ugly Bastard shit for brains dim witted asshole of the lowest form, Retard. They will off you soon enough.
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I'm sorry, I couldn't understand a word you just said there. Is it the fabled retardish language that I've often heard about in rumours?
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Long sentences are hard for you I know, dumb fuck. Just watch your back because fucktards like you are just a menace to society and you will get what's coming to you.
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Note taken. What you'll get coming is daddy's jizz all over your face.
Actually, were you raped or almost raped?
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Fucking with you, Meadow, babes? Nope & I see you're still here & still hissing & spitting & all that. You do know where to post about, say, being raped? As long as you're having fun here!
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It was my mother's live in, not my father. With that guy it went on for three years. He was allowed to routinely take me to motels and was allowed a two week honeymoon as he called it with me alone. I was out on the highway hitchhiking with him alone after the car broke down. He broke my nose when I was 12 for saying no on thanksgiving day. I had a sexually transmitted disease by the time I was in child protective custody and hospitalized for that then when I was 14. I couldn't talk or tell what had happened to me and they basically treated me like a teenage whore who was sleeping with my mother's lover which my mother contributed to them believing at that time. He was allowed to drag me into the bushes at rest areas along the highway as my mother was transient and constantly moving and very abusive in every possible way herself. That doesn't begin to say what I went through.
You're an evil bastard fuckface and I hope you get yours.
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lolz
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It isn't funny. I was a very small child. It's not something to laugh about.
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I don't know why you needed to bother me in the first place.
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I guess I won this one. :autism:
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Right, you win schleed.
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I'm just going to leave it. I hate that low life people like you exist.
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http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/board,48.0.html, (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/board,48.0.html,) Meadow.
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It was my mother's live in, not my father. With that guy it went on for three years. He was allowed to routinely take me to motels and was allowed a two week honeymoon as he called it with me alone. I was out on the highway hitchhiking with him alone after the car broke down. He broke my nose when I was 12 for saying no on thanksgiving day. I had a sexually transmitted disease by the time I was in child protective custody and hospitalized for that then when I was 14. I couldn't talk or tell what had happened to me and they basically treated me like a teenage whore who was sleeping with my mother's lover which my mother contributed to them believing at that time. He was allowed to drag me into the bushes at rest areas along the highway as my mother was transient and constantly moving and very abusive in every possible way herself. That doesn't begin to say what I went through.
You're an evil bastard fuckface and I hope you get yours.
That is horrible, indeed. But why do you think it is our fault?
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Hey, Bodie! Btw, thank you very much for sticking up for me when you thought/ felt that Meadow was attacking me. I don't see her 'blaming' us for the horrible experience but she's being accused of lying about it. Maybe? that has caused multiple personality wotsit, seems enough trauma to have done so to me. If so & she hasn't had any proper therapy, etc.....? :(
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I think it is her excuse. For being mean and twisted to everyone on here.
I could have much sympathy for one with a story like that, but she is toxic to anyone who disagrees, then when she gets some insults thrown back at her, she pulls this story out the bag...like as if we are responsible for her shitty childhood.
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Oh, Bodie! I'm not going to try explaining (in a thesis length post) to you. :GA: Hey, I looked up Katoptronaphiliac, btw - goes very well with Reflective! This wouldn't be the thread to ask you about that, though. :angel: >:D
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Katoptronaphiliac
It speaks for itself really. What did you want to ask?
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Oooh, just all the juicy details, Bodie! (Ideally, with photos.....) ::) ;)
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details....well i like to screw in front of mirrors. can't be any more clearer than that. not a 'lights out' sort of person, just like to watch the event :smarty:
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Well, no, Bodie; you could describe it in a lot more depth & detail, as well as post photos but that's fine! Worth asking, it's interesting! (Am I 'spamming' this thread, yet?)
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No. Straight questions are good. Equally straight answers are too. :hahaha:
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Worth trying, Bodie! Not too sure how you go about being a 'closet exhibitionist', either, though?
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It was my mother's live in, not my father. With that guy it went on for three years. He was allowed to routinely take me to motels and was allowed a two week honeymoon as he called it with me alone. I was out on the highway hitchhiking with him alone after the car broke down. He broke my nose when I was 12 for saying no on thanksgiving day. I had a sexually transmitted disease by the time I was in child protective custody and hospitalized for that then when I was 14. I couldn't talk or tell what had happened to me and they basically treated me like a teenage whore who was sleeping with my mother's lover which my mother contributed to them believing at that time. He was allowed to drag me into the bushes at rest areas along the highway as my mother was transient and constantly moving and very abusive in every possible way herself. That doesn't begin to say what I went through.
That is terrible. :( People like that don't deserve kids and should be locked up. I am sorry this happened to you.
But the people here are ok. It is a shame you don't see that, I was hoping you would in time.
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it's a silly play on words. obviously a closet exhibitionist is a contradiction in terms. :hahaha:
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It sure seemed so, Bodie, but.... :laugh:
It was my mother's live in, not my father. With that guy it went on for three years. He was allowed to routinely take me to motels and was allowed a two week honeymoon as he called it with me alone. I was out on the highway hitchhiking with him alone after the car broke down. He broke my nose when I was 12 for saying no on thanksgiving day. I had a sexually transmitted disease by the time I was in child protective custody and hospitalized for that then when I was 14. I couldn't talk or tell what had happened to me and they basically treated me like a teenage whore who was sleeping with my mother's lover which my mother contributed to them believing at that time. He was allowed to drag me into the bushes at rest areas along the highway as my mother was transient and constantly moving and very abusive in every possible way herself. That doesn't b?egin to say what I went through.
That is terrible. :( People like that don't deserve kids and should be locked up. I am sorry this happened to you.
But the people here are ok. It is a shame you don't see that, I was hoping you would in time.
I'd say, doesn't deserve to live or deserves to be tortured to death, tbh.... If Meadow really doesn't see enough people here as 'OK', it is a shame but isn't there anything we can do, or try, at least, before she does go? :apondering: :dunno:
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I could put incessant jerks like Bodie on ignore. It's Odeon turning on me and so doing turns even those I though liked me okay against me. I'm tired of getting hassled by ms Ho. She's a regular idiot and psycho, clearly. Gross bitch.
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You seemed to be settling in, though? Maybe another forum would suit you better, though, as I did say before, Meadow?
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Don't pull the nice guy act, you and Odeon are two peas in a pod. What a fucking fake you are! The only people I had on ignore is you, Hubert and bitch Callaway. Calloway's the only person I really dislike. Passive-aggressive Ho's I absolutely hate.
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Whatever you wish to think about me, Meadow. I did try to intervene, on your behalf, in your 'fight' with Odeon &, really, with the others, when I could post something. I did notice the -karma from you & the post about me as a whatever it was, you know. OK, so you wish me to leave you alone; from now, I'll do my best to do so, then. Best wishes with your life, though!
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You did not intervene with Odeon, who are you kidding? You had a good stab at me when the going was good. You're so full of shit it reeks.
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Are you saying Callaway is a Ho too? Aw, thats just too bad, as i thought i was speshull.
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Ignore her, Bodie. :yawn:
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Don't pull the nice guy act, you and Odeon are two peas in a pod. What a fucking fake you are! The only people I had on ignore is you, Hubert and bitch Callaway. Calloway's the only person I really dislike. Passive-aggressive Ho's I absolutely hate.
He wasn't being fake. He was really trying to help. You are lashing out at the wrong person. Your rage is misplaced. He has offended me before. He uses (!) a lot and I thought he was yelling at me. He is also very blunt and offends people online and irl which makes friendship difficult for him. :bigcry:
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Are you saying Callaway is a Ho too? Aw, thats just too bad, as i thought i was speshull.
You are speshull, Bodaccea. I am honored to be gifted with the same name Meadow had reserved for you. However, I think that in Meadow-speak, Ho doesn't have its usual meaning and just means a female she dislikes.
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It was my mother's live in, not my father. With that guy it went on for three years. He was allowed to routinely take me to motels and was allowed a two week honeymoon as he called it with me alone. I was out on the highway hitchhiking with him alone after the car broke down. He broke my nose when I was 12 for saying no on thanksgiving day. I had a sexually transmitted disease by the time I was in child protective custody and hospitalized for that then when I was 14. I couldn't talk or tell what had happened to me and they basically treated me like a teenage whore who was sleeping with my mother's lover which my mother contributed to them believing at that time. He was allowed to drag me into the bushes at rest areas along the highway as my mother was transient and constantly moving and very abusive in every possible way herself. That doesn't begin to say what I went through.
You're an evil bastard fuckface and I hope you get yours.
Slut
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How does being raped make someone a whore or a slut? Isn't that blaming the victim?
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How does being raped make someone a whore or a slut? Isn't that blaming the victim?
You're right that being raped doesn't make someone a whore or a slut, no more than being a female that Meadow dislikes makes someone a Ho.
It's having sex with men for money that makes someone a whore.
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How does being raped make someone a whore or a slut? Isn't that blaming the victim?
He's being a bully as usual.
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Yes. I am being a bully. As usual. :M
I'm a bully, and poor Meadow is an innocent victim.
And a whore
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Are you saying Callaway is a Ho too? Aw, thats just too bad, as i thought i was speshull.
You are speshull, Bodaccea. I am honored to be gifted with the same name Meadow had reserved for you. However, I think that in Meadow-speak, Ho doesn't have its usual meaning and just means a female she dislikes.
Oh i c, thanks Callaway :thumbup: although i did get the extra tag of 'slutty' once or twice :hahaha:
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How does being raped make someone a whore or a slut? Isn't that blaming the victim?
You're right that being raped doesn't make someone a whore or a slut, no more than being a female that Meadow dislikes makes someone a Ho.
It's having sex with men for money that makes someone a whore.
Don't speak for me. Being female and dislike have nothing to do with it. I've already said what my issue with you is and won't waste anymore time on it. Your type are a lost cause and I have no regard for it.
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Your type are a lost cause and I have no regard for it.
:tard:
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How does being raped make someone a whore or a slut? Isn't that blaming the victim?
You're right that being raped doesn't make someone a whore or a slut, no more than being a female that Meadow dislikes makes someone a Ho.
It's having sex with men for money that makes someone a whore.
Don't speak for me. Being female and dislike have nothing to do with it. I've already said what my issue with you is and won't waste anymore time on it. Your type are a lost cause and I have no regard for it.
So, if you meant the standard definition of Ho, you claim to have some special knowledge of mine and Bodaccea's sex lives?
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How does being raped make someone a whore or a slut? Isn't that blaming the victim?
You're right that being raped doesn't make someone a whore or a slut, no more than being a female that Meadow dislikes makes someone a Ho.
It's having sex with men for money that makes someone a whore.
I don't remember her making that post TBH. Either you have the wrong person or I missed it.
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We don't know what story to believe anyway. She says things one minute then its something else. In her mind she goes around raping people with broomsticks!
If her story is true then sure, she is a victim. It doesn't give her a lifetime pass to attack anyone that disagrees with her.
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Your type are a lost cause and I have no regard for it.
:tard:
Meadow (26) Hubert (600) - Woody-wood Pecker Bitch
I have no idea what that means, but I love that you are bothered :)
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How does being raped make someone a whore or a slut? Isn't that blaming the victim?
You're right that being raped doesn't make someone a whore or a slut, no more than being a female that Meadow dislikes makes someone a Ho.
It's having sex with men for money that makes someone a whore.
I don't remember her making that post TBH. Either you have the wrong person or I missed it.
Kit missed something? Has that ever happened before?
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How does being raped make someone a whore or a slut? Isn't that blaming the victim?
You're right that being raped doesn't make someone a whore or a slut, no more than being a female that Meadow dislikes makes someone a Ho.
It's having sex with men for money that makes someone a whore.
Don't speak for me. Being female and dislike have nothing to do with it. I've already said what my issue with you is and won't waste anymore time on it. Your type are a lost cause and I have no regard for it.
So, if you meant the standard definition of Ho, you claim to have some special knowledge of mine and Bodaccea's sex lives?
Sucking cock is your problem.
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How does being raped make someone a whore or a slut? Isn't that blaming the victim?
You're right that being raped doesn't make someone a whore or a slut, no more than being a female that Meadow dislikes makes someone a Ho.
It's having sex with men for money that makes someone a whore.
Don't speak for me. Being female and dislike have nothing to do with it. I've already said what my issue with you is and won't waste anymore time on it. Your type are a lost cause and I have no regard for it.
So, if you meant the standard definition of Ho, you claim to have some special knowledge of mine and Bodaccea's sex lives?
Sucking cock is your problem.
Sucking cock is a problem? Sounds like a fucking gift to me.
I heard your Mommy's boyfriend said you were great at it.
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How does being raped make someone a whore or a slut? Isn't that blaming the victim?
You're right that being raped doesn't make someone a whore or a slut, no more than being a female that Meadow dislikes makes someone a Ho.
It's having sex with men for money that makes someone a whore.
I don't remember her making that post TBH. Either you have the wrong person or I missed it.
Bodie called me every kind of nutcase and I finally called her a slut and Callaway and she have been at it ever since. I keep saying Ho because it seems to piss them off a lot.
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Yes. I am being a bully. As usual. :M
I'm a bully, and poor Meadow is an innocent victim.
And a whore
I never said Meadow was blameless. That doesn't justify your disgusting attack on her childhood. You are a massive hypocrite. Just wait till YOUR kids get bullied. What goes around comes around. You like to play the internet tough guy but you are just a keyboard warrior. If you are so brave , why don't you give me your full name, address and phone number. I'd love to see how "tough" you are in person. I feel sorry for your children having an evil, nasty, vindictive immature father.
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How does being raped make someone a whore or a slut? Isn't that blaming the victim?
You're right that being raped doesn't make someone a whore or a slut, no more than being a female that Meadow dislikes makes someone a Ho.
It's having sex with men for money that makes someone a whore.
I don't remember her making that post TBH. Either you have the wrong person or I missed it.
Would you like for me to find all the posts where she has called Bodaccea a Ho or slut?
She called me a Ho a few posts back in this thread.
Don't pull the nice guy act, you and Odeon are two peas in a pod. What a fucking fake you are! The only people I had on ignore is you, Hubert and bitch Callaway. Calloway's the only person I really dislike. Passive-aggressive Ho's I absolutely hate.
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We don't know what story to believe anyway. She says things one minute then its something else. In her mind she goes around raping people with broomsticks!
If her story is true then sure, she is a victim. It doesn't give her a lifetime pass to attack anyone that disagrees with her.
No. Not anymore than her attacks on people warrant Hubert using her childhood trauma as a weapon against her.
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How does being raped make someone a whore or a slut? Isn't that blaming the victim?
You're right that being raped doesn't make someone a whore or a slut, no more than being a female that Meadow dislikes makes someone a Ho.
It's having sex with men for money that makes someone a whore.
I don't remember her making that post TBH. Either you have the wrong person or I missed it.
Bodie called me every kind of nutcase and I finally called her a slut and Callaway and she have been at it ever since. I keep saying Ho because it seems to piss them off a lot.
(fucking hell - add memory loss to your list of dysfunctions) No you decided i was a slut because i disagreed with something you said. Silly.
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I never said Meadow was blameless. That doesn't justify your disgusting attack on her childhood. You are a massive hypocrite. Just wait till YOUR kids get bullied. What goes around comes around. You like to play the internet tough guy but you are just a keyboard warrior. If you are so brave , why don't you give me your full name, address and phone number. I'd love to see how "tough" you are in person. I feel sorry for your children having an evil, nasty, vindictive immature father.
Uh oh. Someone is sensitive, just like Meadow was sensitive as a little girl.
Having kids isn't enough to make me a hypocrite darling. Maybe I am a keyboard warrior. That sounds pretty cool. I wonder if I can get a custom license plate :)
You want my name and address to come and fight me? Really? :GA:
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We don't know what story to believe anyway. She says things one minute then its something else. In her mind she goes around raping people with broomsticks!
If her story is true then sure, she is a victim. It doesn't give her a lifetime pass to attack anyone that disagrees with her.
No. Not anymore than her attacks on people warrant Hubert using her childhood trauma as a weapon against her.
This sensitivity must have come from somewhere. Did your Daddy touch you Duckie? Did you like it? It's okay you know, you were just a kid. Just because he still makes you wet to think about doesn't make you dirty.
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How does being raped make someone a whore or a slut? Isn't that blaming the victim?
You're right that being raped doesn't make someone a whore or a slut, no more than being a female that Meadow dislikes makes someone a Ho.
It's having sex with men for money that makes someone a whore.
I don't remember her making that post TBH. Either you have the wrong person or I missed it.
Bodie called me every kind of nutcase and I finally called her a slut and Callaway and she have been at it ever since. I keep saying Ho because it seems to piss them off a lot.
(fucking hell - add memory loss to your list of dysfunctions) No you decided i was a slut because i disagreed with something you said. Silly.
You were calling me a psycho in too many words and posting straight jacket photo....dipstick and I finally hit you with "slutty". get over yourself. You'll just be a wanker from now on and a waste of time to even respond to....fucking liar. "IF I've said anything" ... bullshit. You're a fuck, what else.
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We don't know what story to believe anyway. She says things one minute then its something else. In her mind she goes around raping people with broomsticks!
If her story is true then sure, she is a victim. It doesn't give her a lifetime pass to attack anyone that disagrees with her.
No. Not anymore than her attacks on people warrant Hubert using her childhood trauma as a weapon against her.
This sensitivity must have come from somewhere. Did your Daddy touch you Duckie? Did you like it? It's okay you know, you were just a kid. Just because he still makes you wet to think about doesn't make you dirty.
:tard:
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We don't know what story to believe anyway. She says things one minute then its something else. In her mind she goes around raping people with broomsticks!
If her story is true then sure, she is a victim. It doesn't give her a lifetime pass to attack anyone that disagrees with her.
No. Not anymore than her attacks on people warrant Hubert using her childhood trauma as a weapon against her.
This sensitivity must have come from somewhere. Did your Daddy touch you Duckie? Did you like it? It's okay you know, you were just a kid. Just because he still makes you wet to think about doesn't make you dirty.
You're on permanent ignore scumbag.
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We don't know what story to believe anyway. She says things one minute then its something else. In her mind she goes around raping people with broomsticks!
If her story is true then sure, she is a victim. It doesn't give her a lifetime pass to attack anyone that disagrees with her.
No. Not anymore than her attacks on people warrant Hubert using her childhood trauma as a weapon against her.
I am not buying her 'victim' story. I have been reading her posts. SBi was quite correct when he said she gives a different story every time. One post of hers said she couldn't talk at all. Another one said she didn't learn to talk until she was an adult. Makes everything she says quite ambiguous.
I take this into account when she says she was raped and wonder if it was in her head. Or maybe someone said something about fucking her, but they probably meant over a cliff.
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We don't know what story to believe anyway. She says things one minute then its something else. In her mind she goes around raping people with broomsticks!
If her story is true then sure, she is a victim. It doesn't give her a lifetime pass to attack anyone that disagrees with her.
No. Not anymore than her attacks on people warrant Hubert using her childhood trauma as a weapon against her.
This sensitivity must have come from somewhere. Did your Daddy touch you Duckie? Did you like it? It's okay you know, you were just a kid. Just because he still makes you wet to think about doesn't make you dirty.
You're on permanent ignore scumbag.
Oh Noes. However will you fight me then?
You miss an important point here. When I was a little kid I was touched inappropriately by the family dog. It was awful, and I am traumatized. Most of you would have just died, but I am a survivor. Therefore, I am not responsible for anything I say.
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I never said Meadow was blameless. That doesn't justify your disgusting attack on her childhood. You are a massive hypocrite. Just wait till YOUR kids get bullied. What goes around comes around. You like to play the internet tough guy but you are just a keyboard warrior. If you are so brave , why don't you give me your full name, address and phone number. I'd love to see how "tough" you are in person. I feel sorry for your children having an evil, nasty, vindictive immature father.
Uh oh. Someone is sensitive, just like Meadow was sensitive as a little girl.
Having kids isn't enough to make me a hypocrite darling. Maybe I am a keyboard warrior. That sounds pretty cool. I wonder if I can get a custom license plate :)
You want my name and address to come and fight me? Really? :GA:
It was never a big secret I am sensitive. And I honestly don't care what you say about me. I think it is beyond low to use the fact someone was raped to call them a slut. It shows what kind of person you are. It isn't the first time I've seen you acting like a cunt.
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How does being raped make someone a whore or a slut? Isn't that blaming the victim?
You're right that being raped doesn't make someone a whore or a slut, no more than being a female that Meadow dislikes makes someone a Ho.
It's having sex with men for money that makes someone a whore.
I don't remember her making that post TBH. Either you have the wrong person or I missed it.
Kit missed something? Has that ever happened before?
Yes.
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You bitch... Being able to say yes and no and memorized material or mimick is not the same as being able to talk. I can't talk in real life even today on the everyday. Shows how much you know about autism. You're an incredible fuckwit to be sure.
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How does being raped make someone a whore or a slut? Isn't that blaming the victim?
You're right that being raped doesn't make someone a whore or a slut, no more than being a female that Meadow dislikes makes someone a Ho.
It's having sex with men for money that makes someone a whore.
I don't remember her making that post TBH. Either you have the wrong person or I missed it.
Kit missed something? Has that ever happened before?
Yes.
When?
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How does being raped make someone a whore or a slut? Isn't that blaming the victim?
You're right that being raped doesn't make someone a whore or a slut, no more than being a female that Meadow dislikes makes someone a Ho.
It's having sex with men for money that makes someone a whore.
I don't remember her making that post TBH. Either you have the wrong person or I missed it.
Would you like for me to find all the posts where she has called Bodaccea a Ho or slut?
She called me a Ho a few posts back in this thread.
Don't pull the nice guy act, you and Odeon are two peas in a pod. What a fucking fake you are! The only people I had on ignore is you, Hubert and bitch Callaway. Calloway's the only person I really dislike. Passive-aggressive Ho's I absolutely hate.
I meant where she said she was a prostitute. I looked back in this thread and it was Hubert that asked if she ever was one, not you.
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You bitch... Being able to say yes and no and memorized material or mimick is not the same as being able to talk. I can't talk in real life even today on the everyday. Shows how much you know about autism. You're an incredible fuckwit to be sure.
Autistic people can't talk. Didn't you know that Bodie? :M
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We don't know what story to believe anyway. She says things one minute then its something else. In her mind she goes around raping people with broomsticks!
If her story is true then sure, she is a victim. It doesn't give her a lifetime pass to attack anyone that disagrees with her.
No. Not anymore than her attacks on people warrant Hubert using her childhood trauma as a weapon against her.
I am not buying her 'victim' story. I have been reading her posts. SBi was quite correct when he said she gives a different story every time. One post of hers said she couldn't talk at all. Another one said she didn't learn to talk until she was an adult. Makes everything she says quite ambiguous.
I take this into account when she says she was raped and wonder if it was in her head. Or maybe someone said something about fucking her, but they probably meant over a cliff.
So it's perfectly ok in your book to call her a slut for being raped , yet when she said she felt raped by odeon that was unforgivable. Hypocrisy at its finest.
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Callaway suggested I was a prostitute. I've never been a prostitute or a Ho. And even if I was destitute I wouldn't suck cock.
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We don't know what story to believe anyway. She says things one minute then its something else. In her mind she goes around raping people with broomsticks!
If her story is true then sure, she is a victim. It doesn't give her a lifetime pass to attack anyone that disagrees with her.
No. Not anymore than her attacks on people warrant Hubert using her childhood trauma as a weapon against her.
I am not buying her 'victim' story. I have been reading her posts. SBi was quite correct when he said she gives a different story every time. One post of hers said she couldn't talk at all. Another one said she didn't learn to talk until she was an adult. Makes everything she says quite ambiguous.
I take this into account when she says she was raped and wonder if it was in her head. Or maybe someone said something about fucking her, but they probably meant over a cliff.
So it's perfectly ok in your book to call her a slut for being raped , yet when she said she felt raped by odeon that was unforgivable. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Bodie never called her a slut for being raped. She may have called her a whore for selling her body for money, but that's just a fact.
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Callaway suggested I was a prostitute. I've never been a prostitute or a Ho. And even if I was destitute I wouldn't suck cock.
Bragging about being a kept woman, or having a sugar daddy, is bragging about being a prostitute. Just because he didn't leave a twenty on the nightstand doesn't mean you weren't having sex in exchange for money.
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We don't know what story to believe anyway. She says things one minute then its something else. In her mind she goes around raping people with broomsticks!
If her story is true then sure, she is a victim. It doesn't give her a lifetime pass to attack anyone that disagrees with her.
No. Not anymore than her attacks on people warrant Hubert using her childhood trauma as a weapon against her.
I am not buying her 'victim' story. I have been reading her posts. SBi was quite correct when he said she gives a different story every time. One post of hers said she couldn't talk at all. Another one said she didn't learn to talk until she was an adult. Makes everything she says quite ambiguous.
I take this into account when she says she was raped and wonder if it was in her head. Or maybe someone said something about fucking her, but they probably meant over a cliff.
So it's perfectly ok in your book to call her a slut for being raped , yet when she said she felt raped by odeon that was unforgivable. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Bodie never called her a slut for being raped. She may have called her a whore for selling her body for money, but that's just a fact.
You called her a whore for being raped.
So, you claim to live in a big house. If it ain't your art that's paying for it, what do you do for a living?
I have said it before. I am loved.
Hooker :hahaha:
I was in child protective custody by the time I was 14 because of VD.
Skank :hahaha:
I was gang raped when I was thirteen.
Whore :hahaha:
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We don't know what story to believe anyway. She says things one minute then its something else. In her mind she goes around raping people with broomsticks!
If her story is true then sure, she is a victim. It doesn't give her a lifetime pass to attack anyone that disagrees with her.
No. Not anymore than her attacks on people warrant Hubert using her childhood trauma as a weapon against her.
I am not buying her 'victim' story. I have been reading her posts. SBi was quite correct when he said she gives a different story every time. One post of hers said she couldn't talk at all. Another one said she didn't learn to talk until she was an adult. Makes everything she says quite ambiguous.
I take this into account when she says she was raped and wonder if it was in her head. Or maybe someone said something about fucking her, but they probably meant over a cliff.
So it's perfectly ok in your book to call her a slut for being raped , yet when she said she felt raped by odeon that was unforgivable. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Bodie never called her a slut for being raped. She may have called her a whore for selling her body for money, but that's just a fact.
You called her a whore for being raped.
So, you claim to live in a big house. If it ain't your art that's paying for it, what do you do for a living?
I have said it before. I am loved.
Hooker :hahaha:
I was in child protective custody by the time I was 14 because of VD.
Skank :hahaha:
I was gang raped when I was thirteen.
Whore :hahaha:
What does that have to do with Bodie?
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We don't know what story to believe anyway. She says things one minute then its something else. In her mind she goes around raping people with broomsticks!
If her story is true then sure, she is a victim. It doesn't give her a lifetime pass to attack anyone that disagrees with her.
No. Not anymore than her attacks on people warrant Hubert using her childhood trauma as a weapon against her.
I am not buying her 'victim' story. I have been reading her posts. SBi was quite correct when he said she gives a different story every time. One post of hers said she couldn't talk at all. Another one said she didn't learn to talk until she was an adult. Makes everything she says quite ambiguous.
I take this into account when she says she was raped and wonder if it was in her head. Or maybe someone said something about fucking her, but they probably meant over a cliff.
So it's perfectly ok in your book to call her a slut for being raped , yet when she said she felt raped by odeon that was unforgivable. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Bodie never called her a slut for being raped. She may have called her a whore for selling her body for money, but that's just a fact.
You called her a whore for being raped.
So, you claim to live in a big house. If it ain't your art that's paying for it, what do you do for a living?
I have said it before. I am loved.
Hooker :hahaha:
I was in child protective custody by the time I was 14 because of VD.
Skank :hahaha:
I was gang raped when I was thirteen.
Whore :hahaha:
What does that have to do with Bodie?
Because she chose to call out Meadow for saying the rape comment about odeon, yet says nothing about you calling Meadow a whore for being gang raped. It is hypocrisy.
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We don't know what story to believe anyway. She says things one minute then its something else. In her mind she goes around raping people with broomsticks!
If her story is true then sure, she is a victim. It doesn't give her a lifetime pass to attack anyone that disagrees with her.
No. Not anymore than her attacks on people warrant Hubert using her childhood trauma as a weapon against her.
I am not buying her 'victim' story. I have been reading her posts. SBi was quite correct when he said she gives a different story every time. One post of hers said she couldn't talk at all. Another one said she didn't learn to talk until she was an adult. Makes everything she says quite ambiguous.
I take this into account when she says she was raped and wonder if it was in her head. Or maybe someone said something about fucking her, but they probably meant over a cliff.
So it's perfectly ok in your book to call her a slut for being raped , yet when she said she felt raped by odeon that was unforgivable. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Erm...when did i say that? ? Exactly why am i a hypocrite?
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Because she chose to call out Meadow for saying the rape comment about odeon, yet says nothing about you calling Meadow a whore for being gang raped. It is hypocrisy.
Bodie knows I said it for effect, she knows that Meadow actually has earned money as a prostitute, and I don't think she fancies herself the internet police.
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Because she chose to call out Meadow for saying the rape comment about odeon, yet says nothing about you calling Meadow a whore for being gang raped. It is hypocrisy.
Bodie knows I said it for effect, she knows that Meadow actually has earned money as a prostitute, and I don't think she fancies herself the internet police.
Yet none of the posts you quoted, had anything to do with prostitution. And Bodie certainly took upon herself internet policing in behalf of odeon.
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We don't know what story to believe anyway. She says things one minute then its something else. In her mind she goes around raping people with broomsticks!
If her story is true then sure, she is a victim. It doesn't give her a lifetime pass to attack anyone that disagrees with her.
No. Not anymore than her attacks on people warrant Hubert using her childhood trauma as a weapon against her.
I am not buying her 'victim' story. I have been reading her posts. SBi was quite correct when he said she gives a different story every time. One post of hers said she couldn't talk at all. Another one said she didn't learn to talk until she was an adult. Makes everything she says quite ambiguous.
I take this into account when she says she was raped and wonder if it was in her head. Or maybe someone said something about fucking her, but they probably meant over a cliff.
So it's perfectly ok in your book to call her a slut for being raped , yet when she said she felt raped by odeon that was unforgivable. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Bodie never called her a slut for being raped. She may have called her a whore for selling her body for money, but that's just a fact.
I have never sold my body for money and that is not a fact. WTF is wrong with you. I have a close friend who lives in another state who works for IBM but it isn't a sexual relationship. You're an absolute moron and the shit you put out is beyond disgusting.
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You're on permanent ignore scumbag.
I have never sold my body for money and that is not a fact. WTF is wrong with you. I have a close friend who lives in another state who works for IBM but it isn't a sexual relationship. You're an absolute moron and the shit you put out is beyond disgusting.
What does "permanent ignore" mean? I get "ignore", but is "permanent" a fancy word for 33 minutes?
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We don't know what story to believe anyway. She says things one minute then its something else. In her mind she goes around raping people with broomsticks!
If her story is true then sure, she is a victim. It doesn't give her a lifetime pass to attack anyone that disagrees with her.
No. Not anymore than her attacks on people warrant Hubert using her childhood trauma as a weapon against her.
I am not buying her 'victim' story. I have been reading her posts. SBi was quite correct when he said she gives a different story every time. One post of hers said she couldn't talk at all. Another one said she didn't learn to talk until she was an adult. Makes everything she says quite ambiguous.
I take this into account when she says she was raped and wonder if it was in her head. Or maybe someone said something about fucking her, but they probably meant over a cliff.
So it's perfectly ok in your book to call her a slut for being raped , yet when she said she felt raped by odeon that was unforgivable. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Bodie never called her a slut for being raped. She may have called her a whore for selling her body for money, but that's just a fact.
You called her a whore for being raped.
So, you claim to live in a big house. If it ain't your art that's paying for it, what do you do for a living?
I have said it before. I am loved.
Hooker :hahaha:
I was in child protective custody by the time I was 14 because of VD.
Skank :hahaha:
I was gang raped when I was thirteen.
Whore :hahaha:
What does that have to do with Bodie?
Because she chose to call out Meadow for saying the rape comment about odeon, yet says nothing about you calling Meadow a whore for being gang raped. It is hypocrisy.
Odeon and Hubert are friends of mine. I didn't call her out but i told her what she said to odeon was below the belt. She has called me allsorts of shit since then. I am not a hypocrite, i simply don't care if Hubert has said something that hurts Meadow.
Why would i have a pop at Hubert in defence of a woman who insults me every five minutes?
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Because she chose to call out Meadow for saying the rape comment about odeon, yet says nothing about you calling Meadow a whore for being gang raped. It is hypocrisy.
Bodie knows I said it for effect, she knows that Meadow actually has earned money as a prostitute, and I don't think she fancies herself the internet police.
Show your proof.
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Because she chose to call out Meadow for saying the rape comment about odeon, yet says nothing about you calling Meadow a whore for being gang raped. It is hypocrisy.
Bodie knows I said it for effect, she knows that Meadow actually has earned money as a prostitute, and I don't think she fancies herself the internet police.
Yet none of the posts you quoted, had anything to do with prostitution. And Bodie certainly took upon herself internet policing in behalf of odeon.
What are you doing now? ner ner ner ner
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Because she chose to call out Meadow for saying the rape comment about odeon, yet says nothing about you calling Meadow a whore for being gang raped. It is hypocrisy.
Bodie knows I said it for effect, she knows that Meadow actually has earned money as a prostitute, and I don't think she fancies herself the internet police.
Show your proof.
I flushed the proof. Might still be some on my sheets.
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Actually the proof is right here in this thread. Meadows last post says
I have never sold my body for money and that is not a fact.
not a fact? eh.... oh well reasonable doubt and all that! :hahaha:
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Meadow (26) Hubert (600) - Totally sick scumbag!!
I'm in there now baby. Just like Mommy's boyfriend, balls deep in yer head ;)
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We don't know what story to believe anyway. She says things one minute then its something else. In her mind she goes around raping people with broomsticks!
If her story is true then sure, she is a victim. It doesn't give her a lifetime pass to attack anyone that disagrees with her.
No. Not anymore than her attacks on people warrant Hubert using her childhood trauma as a weapon against her.
I am not buying her 'victim' story. I have been reading her posts. SBi was quite correct when he said she gives a different story every time. One post of hers said she couldn't talk at all. Another one said she didn't learn to talk until she was an adult. Makes everything she says quite ambiguous.
I take this into account when she says she was raped and wonder if it was in her head. Or maybe someone said something about fucking her, but they probably meant over a cliff.
So it's perfectly ok in your book to call her a slut for being raped , yet when she said she felt raped by odeon that was unforgivable. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Bodie never called her a slut for being raped. She may have called her a whore for selling her body for money, but that's just a fact.
You called her a whore for being raped.
So, you claim to live in a big house. If it ain't your art that's paying for it, what do you do for a living?
I have said it before. I am loved.
Hooker :hahaha:
I was in child protective custody by the time I was 14 because of VD.
Skank :hahaha:
I was gang raped when I was thirteen.
Whore :hahaha:
What does that have to do with Bodie?
Because she chose to call out Meadow for saying the rape comment about odeon, yet says nothing about you calling Meadow a whore for being gang raped. It is hypocrisy.
Odeon and Hubert are friends of mine. I didn't call her out but i told her what she said to odeon was below the belt. She has called me allsorts of shit since then. I am not a hypocrite, i simply don't care if Hubert has said something that hurts Meadow.
Why would i have a pop at Hubert in defence of a woman who insults me every five minutes?
I honestly don't know. But Meadow strikes me as someone who has been abused. I don't think she is lying about it. What Hubert says is also below the belt and he says it over and over again. And his being your friend doesn't make it any less wrong.
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Actually the proof is right here in this thread. Meadows last post says
I have never sold my body for money and that is not a fact.
not a fact? eh.... oh well reasonable doubt and all that! :hahaha:
You are a fucking imbecile. Read Hubert's post...you stupid fucking Ho!
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I honestly don't know. But Meadow strikes me as someone who has been abused. I don't think she is lying about it. What Hubert says is also below the belt and he says it over and over again. And his being your friend doesn't make it any less wrong.
This place isn't about right and wrong, and it isn't Bodie's job to make those determinations. If justice is what you are looking for, you have come to the wrong place.
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We don't know what story to believe anyway. She says things one minute then its something else. In her mind she goes around raping people with broomsticks!
If her story is true then sure, she is a victim. It doesn't give her a lifetime pass to attack anyone that disagrees with her.
No. Not anymore than her attacks on people warrant Hubert using her childhood trauma as a weapon against her.
I am not buying her 'victim' story. I have been reading her posts. SBi was quite correct when he said she gives a different story every time. One post of hers said she couldn't talk at all. Another one said she didn't learn to talk until she was an adult. Makes everything she says quite ambiguous.
I take this into account when she says she was raped and wonder if it was in her head. Or maybe someone said something about fucking her, but they probably meant over a cliff.
So it's perfectly ok in your book to call her a slut for being raped , yet when she said she felt raped by odeon that was unforgivable. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Bodie never called her a slut for being raped. She may have called her a whore for selling her body for money, but that's just a fact.
You called her a whore for being raped.
So, you claim to live in a big house. If it ain't your art that's paying for it, what do you do for a living?
I have said it before. I am loved.
Hooker :hahaha:
I was in child protective custody by the time I was 14 because of VD.
Skank :hahaha:
I was gang raped when I was thirteen.
Whore :hahaha:
What does that have to do with Bodie?
Because she chose to call out Meadow for saying the rape comment about odeon, yet says nothing about you calling Meadow a whore for being gang raped. It is hypocrisy.
Odeon and Hubert are friends of mine. I didn't call her out but i told her what she said to odeon was below the belt. She has called me allsorts of shit since then. I am not a hypocrite, i simply don't care if Hubert has said something that hurts Meadow.
Why would i have a pop at Hubert in defence of a woman who insults me every five minutes?
I honestly don't know. But Meadow strikes me as someone who has been abused. I don't think she is lying about it. What Hubert says is also below the belt and he says it over and over again. And his being your friend doesn't make it any less wrong.
:agreed: still doesn't make me a likely candidate to jump at her defence?
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Don't defend people if you think they're not like that, rather than actually knowing they're not like that. People can spout all the sympathetic bullshit they want on the internet, but it doesn't nesscessarily mean it's true.
On a curious note though, were does it say that Meadow claimed to sell herself? Not defending her (she pissed me off despite me actually trying to be honest to her), just curious. If she denies it despite it being there, then it shows she's a liar and thus can't be trusted on this whole "rape" thing she mentions.
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^ You're just a pathetic asswipe.
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I really wish that is true. Sadly for once in my life, I can easily say I'm better than you. :zoinks:
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Because she chose to call out Meadow for saying the rape comment about odeon, yet says nothing about you calling Meadow a whore for being gang raped. It is hypocrisy.
Bodie knows I said it for effect, she knows that Meadow actually has earned money as a prostitute, and I don't think she fancies herself the internet police.
Show your proof.
I flushed the proof. Might still be some on my sheets.
You just flushed your credibility. :tard: And I thought maybe you'd post a link to back up your words, but instead you make some lame joke. Now I know you're lying.
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I really wish that is true. Sadly for once in my life, I can easily say I'm better than you. :zoinks:
L O L ...You wish!
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Nope. It's true. :P
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Meadow (26) Hubert (600) - Totally sick scumbag!!
I'm in there now baby. Just like Mommy's boyfriend, balls deep in yer head ;)
Quoted for posterity.
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Yes. I am being a bully. As usual. :M
I'm a bully, and poor Meadow is an innocent victim.
And a whore
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Because she chose to call out Meadow for saying the rape comment about odeon, yet says nothing about you calling Meadow a whore for being gang raped. It is hypocrisy.
Bodie knows I said it for effect, she knows that Meadow actually has earned money as a prostitute, and I don't think she fancies herself the internet police.
Show your proof.
I flushed the proof. Might still be some on my sheets.
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So, you claim to live in a big house. If it ain't your art that's paying for it, what do you do for a living?
I have said it before. I am loved.
Hooker :hahaha:
I was in child protective custody by the time I was 14 because of VD.
Skank :hahaha:
I was gang raped when I was thirteen.
Whore :hahaha:
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MLA doesn't live here anymore. :zoinks: