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Title: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 09, 2008, 05:31:43 PM
has anyone tried risperdal? other antipsychs? i've been thinking about it. i've been reading about it. i dunno about it. they scare the shit out of me. but i think i need something.

i know randy took abilify, i read summin about it. i can't remember.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 09, 2008, 05:34:59 PM
I think they're bad. Haven't tried Risperdal but Trilafon, and that sucked.  :( Better with good old Valium, if you can get hold of it.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Parts on December 09, 2008, 06:11:46 PM
I took seroquil but for sleep not in does they prescribe of antipsychotis and it fuck me up bad. Here is s forum that deal with this type of question all the time   http://www.crazyboards.org /forums/    and another on the way back machine that describes what they do  http://www.crazymeds.us/
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: renaeden on December 09, 2008, 06:45:01 PM
I have taken Seroquel, it made me feel weird and sleepy. I took Risperdal in hospital and I twitched so badly that the doctors stopped giving it to me. I was also put on haloperidol when I first went in because I was a bit psychotic or something and that stuff knocked me out and I liked it because of that but it would not be good to take regularly I think because it is so strong.

Every time I go to the doctor they suggest I take antipsychotics but I won't. I want to stay away from them.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: WolFish on December 09, 2008, 06:48:58 PM
they are all correct. i have worked with dozens of clients on anti-psychotics and they should only be taken as a last resort, not even in low doses for sleep.

having said that i admit to taking compazine which is an insanely low dose of an antipsychotic - its used for nausea. i don't know what effect it has had on me. if anything i am depressed and anxious and don't understand why, so maybe it has affected me. i was never like this before and while i was in the hospital i took compazine almost daily.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 09, 2008, 06:52:11 PM
I think they're bad. Haven't tried Risperdal but Trilafon, and that sucked.  :( Better with good old Valium, if you can get hold of it.

i wouldn't bother with aps if i had valium endlessly.

i forgot crazymeds, thanks PARTS.

i was thinking of haloperidol but i dunno if i could get that stuff. i wish. :)

at the moment i'm taking 4 tryptophan caps that have b-vitamin in them a day and trying to remember 3 st johns a day but currently managing only 2 as i forget. mom's getting me GABA. i will see how that goes. but sometimes i feel i need something stronger. supplements are meek.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 09, 2008, 06:53:52 PM
they are all correct. i have worked with dozens of clients on anti-psychotics and they should only be taken as a last resort, not even in low doses for sleep.

having said that i admit to taking compazine which is an insanely low dose of an antipsychotic - its used for nausea. i don't know what effect it has had on me. if anything i am depressed and anxious and don't understand why, so maybe it has affected me. i was never like this before and while i was in the hospital i took compazine almost daily.

but why are antipsychs bad? i just want to stop the fucked upness. antipsychs lower dopamine and if i have too much then why not?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: WolFish on December 09, 2008, 08:00:16 PM
there are other things that work on dopamine.
most anti-psychotics have bad side effects - the most common i've seen were weight gain, diabetes and tics or other movement disorders.

check this out:
side effects (http://www.rethink.org/living_with_mental_illness/treatment_and_therapy/medication/antipsychotics/side_effects_of.html)

clearly an antipsychotic is better than walking into a fire, jumping off a bridge or dancing naked in the parking lot of the local big food store (all the same client) because you think someone is going to kill you. if its this bad, then you could consider it. if not, consider something else that can reduce your dopamine levels.

and yuck - since i wanted to get my facts straight i did a little research and found an antipsychotic used to treat Aspergers. WTF.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: renaeden on December 09, 2008, 09:24:30 PM
Yes, I have read some stuff about that as well, even giving them to little kids.  :thumbdn:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 10, 2008, 01:11:37 AM
i definitely don't want weight gain. :( it's right up there with dancing naked in a parking lot. :zombiefuck:

didn't know they can cause diabetes. that's horrible.

yeah they apparently give aps for all kinds of crap, just to shut kids up. i dunno why i can't get some valium but a 5 year old is forced to take antipsychotics and that's supposed to be somehow in sync with the laws of the universe. just fucked up.

i'm tired of this medical battle. doctors don't give a fuck as long as they're not sued. cowards can't give anyone anything that works.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 10, 2008, 03:59:08 AM
they are all correct. i have worked with dozens of clients on anti-psychotics and they should only be taken as a last resort, not even in low doses for sleep.

having said that i admit to taking compazine which is an insanely low dose of an antipsychotic - its used for nausea. i don't know what effect it has had on me. if anything i am depressed and anxious and don't understand why, so maybe it has affected me. i was never like this before and while i was in the hospital i took compazine almost daily.

but why are antipsychs bad? i just want to stop the fucked upness. antipsychs lower dopamine and if i have too much then why not?

They fuck with your brain. I'd gladly take some of that upness, if it could be transfused as easily as blood.  :-\
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 10, 2008, 03:59:56 AM
i'm tired of this medical battle. doctors don't give a fuck as long as they're not sued. cowards can't give anyone anything that works.

 :agreed: Death to the cowards!  :arrr:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 10, 2008, 07:57:02 AM
:pirate:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 10, 2008, 08:09:32 AM
 :plus:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 10, 2008, 08:19:05 AM
 :zoinks:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 10, 2008, 08:21:28 AM
 8)
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on December 10, 2008, 05:03:06 PM
Respieradal caused weight gain for me.  My mom said people in the hospital looked like zombies, and I was one of them, when I was hospitalized.
I don't remember any of them working either.   Even Dr. Gordon, a noted psychiatrist, says meds for depression rarely work, and lifestyle is effective for what he estimates 80-90% of the population,  problem is no one does it.  They have to be motivated, and taught tricks of the trade that I came up with.  I also read about a few of them, alot of them.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 10, 2008, 06:47:38 PM
lifestyle change is not an option, neither is weight gain. oh well. sounds like aps aren't an option. can't risk weight gain. why are pharms such shit.

though apparently antihistamines or sumthing can fix the weight gain problem. crazymeds had something on that.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Phlexor on December 11, 2008, 07:57:51 AM
Yeah, those fuckers put me on anti-psyches once. Turned me into one of those drooling zombies that stare out of the window for no good reason. Got off that shit as soon as I could.

Plus yeah, the fact that after enough use it can fuck with your brain/mind on a permanent basis, is a little of a turn off.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 11, 2008, 10:28:30 AM
the thing is, i want to be a drooling zombie. kinda. the zombie i was on citalopram. i'm thinking about lexapro. if that would make me that kind of zombie... it's basically the same stuff.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 11, 2008, 11:04:57 AM
Use that recipe I gave you on MSN, Milla Vanilla.  ;) :autism:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: P7PSP on December 11, 2008, 11:38:09 AM
I tried getting high on Thorazine once thinking it would be similar to Seconal or Quaalude. That stuff sucked. :zombiefuck:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: duncvis on December 11, 2008, 11:39:52 AM
lexapro isn't an antipsychotic though, its an SSRI. (and both citalopram and escitalopram caused me weight gain)
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 11, 2008, 12:18:59 PM
Use that recipe I gave you on MSN, Milla Vanilla.  ;) :autism:

that was meth numbnuts :orly:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 11, 2008, 12:21:04 PM
lexapro isn't an antipsychotic though, its an SSRI. (and both citalopram and escitalopram caused me weight gain)

i know that's why i want to try it cuz ssris aren't that bad.

was the weight gain metabolic or that you ate more/didn't exercise?

citalopram actually made me eat less cuz i was so happy that i didn't need to mess around with food.

I tried getting high on Thorazine once thinking it would be similar to Seconal or Quaalude. That stuff sucked. :zombiefuck:

i don't expect it to be like a regular sedative but i wish it would be something like citalopram.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: duncvis on December 11, 2008, 12:33:53 PM
I suspect it was partly metabolic, as it made me very sluggish. my activity level/appetite was pretty much unchanged - I was slowly putting on weight anyway through inactivity and comfort eating due to depression, but the weight piled on each time I was on the meds. I ended up putting on seven stone over three and a half years, the overwhelming bulk of which was added during the two years I was taking citalopram or escitalopram. draw your own conclusions.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 11, 2008, 05:06:14 PM
i'm usually sluggish, but i am fat cuz of my crappy diet and drinking too much. if i was on medication i would cut out most of the food and all booze.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 11, 2008, 05:09:26 PM
Booze is brave!  8)
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 11, 2008, 05:10:31 PM
its fattning :eyebrow:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 11, 2008, 05:19:49 PM
Hey-ho and a bottle of rum!  :arrr: :pirate:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: renaeden on December 13, 2008, 08:31:51 PM
There are many different antidepressants. Lexapro stopped working for me recently, I think that was why I got depressed again. I was starting to metabolise it too quickly - if I forgot to take it in the morning, I would feel dizzy by the late afternoon and that isn't meant to happen. So I have switched to Cymbalta which is SNRI I think. I feel better already.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: El on December 14, 2008, 02:18:22 PM
I was on Zyprexa for years for no good reason whatsofuckingever (the closest to a sane justification I can backreason is it acted as a sleep aid).  Hella weight gain.  The withdrawal was agonizing.  I hate Eli Lilly with a passion.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 14, 2008, 08:47:13 PM
lexapro is the newer version of citalopram, prolly stops working similarly. but it's a good vacation while it actually works.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on December 14, 2008, 11:52:49 PM
A drooling zombie is like a drunk gal, need i say more? too easy as is as if i cant figure em out VISUAL IMAGERY, i dont get what is so tough, why is junkfood still selling? After a while its just as easy as eating junk but cheaper. You have no imagination or something? PRACTICE PRACTICE you controll your destiny. I believe you can do that.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: choccybiccy on December 15, 2008, 04:01:18 AM
Resperidone (Risperdal in the US) killed my sister, after a year of hell on them first. I was told she had become ill and then when I went to see her in the hospital it seemed obvious that she was ill because she was the opposite of herself and like a zombie. I didn't realise this was because of the medication.

I'm still not sure that she was ill, when she talked about stuff that was supposedly her illness, I understood her.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 15, 2008, 04:39:47 AM
Antipsychotics is Devil's invention. Don't take them.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 15, 2008, 01:54:47 PM
Resperidone (Risperdal in the US) killed my sister, after a year of hell on them first. I was told she had become ill and then when I went to see her in the hospital it seemed obvious that she was ill because she was the opposite of herself and like a zombie. I didn't realise this was because of the medication.

I'm still not sure that she was ill, when she talked about stuff that was supposedly her illness, I understood her.

that sucks. :(

it seems they overprescribe.

there is even an emo kid on hollyoaks who's on risperdal. i think that sets a bad example.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 15, 2008, 09:46:00 PM
has anyone tried risperdal? other antipsychs? i've been thinking about it. i've been reading about it. i dunno about it. they scare the shit out of me. but i think i need something.

i know randy took abilify, i read summin about it. i can't remember.
Why? Really this is something you need to be very clear on before going to see someone to talk about this.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 15, 2008, 09:46:58 PM
lifestyle change is not an option, neither is weight gain. oh well. sounds like aps aren't an option. can't risk weight gain. why are pharms such shit.

though apparently antihistamines or sumthing can fix the weight gain problem. crazymeds had something on that.
Because? You realise that's the first thing they are likely to ask you.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 16, 2008, 11:03:50 AM
i need something because my brain is not functioning. i need to numb myself and get energy or somekind of mental focus so i can do things. i just lie on my bed catatonic most days and the only thing i accomplish is turning the TV on and off and getting some beer so i can be numb again.

and i can't change my life because my mind isn't working. and i don't see the point as i only want to watch TV and survive this shit life as numb as i can til i die. i'd die now but it's not an option either. and there's no point to anything but TV cuz it's the only thing i find remotely interesting and have the energy to do. i just don't care about anything and i don't have energy to do anything. i think the right meds could help but they all have side effects.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 16, 2008, 11:14:41 AM
i need something because my brain is not functioning. i need to numb myself and get energy or somekind of mental focus so i can do things. i just lie on my bed catatonic most days and the only thing i accomplish is turning the TV on and off and getting some beer so i can be numb again.

and i can't change my life because my mind isn't working. and i don't see the point as i only want to watch TV and survive this shit life as numb as i can til i die. i'd die now but it's not an option either. and there's no point to anything but TV cuz it's the only thing i find remotely interesting and have the energy to do. i just don't care about anything and i don't have energy to do anything. i think the right meds could help but they all have side effects.
I am no expert, but to be honest, you sound pretty depressed to me. The first thing that the doctor is probably going to suggest myself is that you stay off the booze - especially if you want anti-psychotics. Though I take it they would prefer to give you a therapist or something first - unless you have tried that?

Have you tried leaving the house and finding something else to do? Or failing that something productive you can do via a computer, there is plenty of stuff you can do (e.g. continuing your education, formally or less formally). It might be a starting point. 
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 17, 2008, 10:06:01 PM
it can't be depression. i'm perfectly happy as long as my circumstances are good and stable. there are problems but i do my best to practice lots of escapism. :P isn't depression an internal condition and unpleasant? i get depressed because of PMS but other times i'm not depressed. i'm just not interested in the world besides TV. it feels pointless. and i'm tired of life in general, cuz there's no energy and no... inner spark. i feel dead inside. something's definitely died.

anyway sobriety is not an option either. and i can't leave the house. :P paranoid and agoraphobic.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Pyraxis on December 17, 2008, 10:18:55 PM
Dissociation?

/rank amateur

 :hide:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 17, 2008, 10:19:28 PM
It's brave to be paranoid!  :tinfoil: :arrr: :tantrum:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 17, 2008, 10:29:44 PM
Dissociation?

/rank amateur

 :hide:

 :laugh:

i've considered that. but i haven't found much info on it online. to my surprise. mostly just read about stuff about abuse victims and extreme stuff. i'm not really sure what it's about really. could be though, i've thought about it a lot.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 18, 2008, 07:11:07 AM
it can't be depression. i'm perfectly happy as long as my circumstances are good and stable.
You call your current circumstances "good and stable"? Despite not being able to leave the house and essentially look after yourself.
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there are problems but i do my best to practice lots of escapism. :P isn't depression an internal condition and unpleasant?
"Major depressive disorder (also known as clinical depression, major depression, unipolar depression, or unipolar disorder) is a mental disorder typically characterized by a pervasive low mood, low self-esteem, and loss of interest or pleasure in usual activities"
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i get depressed because of PMS but other times i'm not depressed.
Not depressed or relatively less depressed?
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i'm just not interested in the world besides TV.
Not even computer games or something more interactive?
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it feels pointless. and i'm tired of life in general, cuz there's no energy and no... inner spark. i feel dead inside. something's definitely died.
Sounds like depression to me.
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anyway sobriety is not an option either. and i can't leave the house. :P paranoid and agoraphobic.
So why is your mum enabling you then?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 18, 2008, 07:13:15 AM
SovaNu can't "sova nu" without booze.  :-\
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 18, 2008, 07:18:44 AM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Phlexor on December 18, 2008, 11:43:29 AM
Funny enough, a lot of this bullshit can be pinned down to lack of exercise, which leaves me screwed.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 18, 2008, 12:58:50 PM
yeah sure, it's lack of exercise. always the lazy fatasses have mental problems.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 18, 2008, 01:04:17 PM
Milla's brave!  :arrr:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 18, 2008, 01:13:56 PM
yeah sure, it's lack of exercise. always the lazy fatasses have mental problems.
No but exercise keeps depression at bay to an extent. Plus people who are not confident in their appearance are more likely to be depressed
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 18, 2008, 01:39:51 PM
i'm not depressed. i'm just lonely and hate myself. and depressed people can't be assed to exercise.

So why is your mum enabling you then?

she recognizes i need a certain amount of alcohol to calm down. :P but i'd rather have meds that help the same way but i don't have any except tryptophan and gaba and gaba makes my heart race. but she keeps me in check. i tend to stay within the recommended amounts.

if i live alone my drinking gets out of hand. and i'm too paranoid to open the door for anyone and start to imagine people breaking in. i guess i could try it again and go on disability if i move back to finland, which is a possibility now that mom wants to move there. but i really was doing badly there. living here with mom gives me some kind of a bubble away from my past problems. maybe that is enabling and maybe that is me being too dependent, but there are people who actually are dependent for a reason. i don't feel good about it. i just dunno what to do other than go on disability, which i admit maybe i should do. i'm just afraid of changes and living alone again and being dependent on the government. it's scary.

anyway after learning more about dissociation i realize it makes a lot of sense to me. apparently it can start with some trauma that you dissociate from and then it becomes an automatic response to everything. there was also stuff about identity alteration, i didn't know that was a condition. i mean a recognized one.

http://www.isst-d.org/education/faq-dissociation.htm

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More frequently, subtler forms of identity alteration can be observed when a person uses different voice tones, range of language, or facial expressions. These may be associated with a change in the patient’s world view. For example, during a discussion about fear, a client may initially feel young, vulnerable, and frightened, followed by a sudden shift to feeling hostile and callous. The person may express confusion about their feelings and perceptions, or may have difficulty remembering what they have just said, even though they do not claim to be a different person or have a different name. The patient may be able to confirm the experience of identity alteration, but often the part of the self that presents for therapy is not aware of the existence of dissociated self-states. If identity alteration is suspected, it may be confirmed by observation of amnesia for behavior and distinct changes in affect, speech patterns, demeanor and body language, and relationship to the therapist.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 18, 2008, 02:11:32 PM
i'm not depressed. i'm just lonely and hate myself. and depressed people can't be assed to exercise.
You sound anything but happy to me tbh. As for depressed people not bothering to exercise, totally not true.
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So why is your mum enabling you then?

she recognizes i need a certain amount of alcohol to calm down. :P but i'd rather have meds that help the same way but i don't have any except tryptophan and gaba and gaba makes my heart race. but she keeps me in check. i tend to stay within the recommended amounts.
What exactly has the doctor precribed all this for, and what is self-medicating on alcohol actually doing for you?
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if i live alone my drinking gets out of hand. and i'm too paranoid to open the door for anyone and start to imagine people breaking in. i guess i could try it again and go on disability if i move back to finland, which is a possibility now that mom wants to move there. but i really was doing badly there. living here with mom gives me some kind of a bubble away from my past problems. maybe that is enabling and maybe that is me being too dependent, but there are people who actually are dependent for a reason. i don't feel good about it. i just dunno what to do other than go on disability, which i admit maybe i should do. i'm just afraid of changes and living alone again and being dependent on the government. it's scary.
There are plenty of options - in an ideal world what would like to do. Many occupations you can actually do be teleworking, and you can certainly study for a degree by distance learning..
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anyway after learning more about dissociation i realize it makes a lot of sense to me. apparently it can start with some trauma that you dissociate from and then it becomes an automatic response to everything. there was also stuff about identity alteration, i didn't know that was a condition. i mean a recognized one.

http://www.isst-d.org/education/faq-dissociation.htm

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More frequently, subtler forms of identity alteration can be observed when a person uses different voice tones, range of language, or facial expressions. These may be associated with a change in the patient’s world view. For example, during a discussion about fear, a client may initially feel young, vulnerable, and frightened, followed by a sudden shift to feeling hostile and callous. The person may express confusion about their feelings and perceptions, or may have difficulty remembering what they have just said, even though they do not claim to be a different person or have a different name. The patient may be able to confirm the experience of identity alteration, but often the part of the self that presents for therapy is not aware of the existence of dissociated self-states. If identity alteration is suspected, it may be confirmed by observation of amnesia for behavior and distinct changes in affect, speech patterns, demeanor and body language, and relationship to the therapist.
Dissociation I assume is curable, correct me if I am wrong? Have you talked to a doctor about this?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 18, 2008, 02:34:12 PM
not all dissociatives can be cured cuz the dissociation is there for a reason. you have to actually accept the past traumas as real and i can't. so there's no way to fix it.

self medicating keeps me from going crazy and suffering. if i don't have that i turn to other coping mechanisms.

my ideal job would be bed tester. :P

i'm interested in sleep disorders and stuff like that. and psychology. but can't see how to make money with such a degree and have no confidence in learning things.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on December 18, 2008, 02:51:02 PM
not all dissociatives can be cured cuz the dissociation is there for a reason. you have to actually accept the past traumas as real and i can't. so there's no way to fix it.

self medicating keeps me from going crazy and suffering. if i don't have that i turn to other coping mechanisms.

my ideal job would be bed tester. :P

i'm interested in sleep disorders and stuff like that. and psychology. but can't see how to make money with such a degree and have no confidence in learning things.

Cough cough :laugh:  Ah choo
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: duncvis on December 18, 2008, 03:03:09 PM
As for depressed people not bothering to exercise, totally not true.

Have you ever had clinical depression, Hadron? Getting out of bed is an effort. Eating is an effort. Dressing is an effort. Being bothered to do pretty much ANYTHING is an effort, never mind going for a run. When you're at the bottom of the spiral, finding the energy, motivation and willpower to exercise is likely to be beyond most people. On the road to recovery, exercise can help enormously - I know it benefited me. But when the walls close in, going to the gym is pretty unlikely to be top of your list of priorities, don't you think?.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 18, 2008, 03:57:31 PM
Have you ever had clinical depression, Hadron? Getting out of bed is an effort. Eating is an effort. Dressing is an effort. Being bothered to do pretty much ANYTHING is an effort, never mind going for a run. When you're at the bottom of the spiral, finding the energy, motivation and willpower to exercise is likely to be beyond most people. On the road to recovery, exercise can help enormously - I know it benefited me. But when the walls close in, going to the gym is pretty unlikely to be top of your list of priorities, don't you think?.

QFT
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 18, 2008, 03:59:10 PM
not all dissociatives can be cured cuz the dissociation is there for a reason. you have to actually accept the past traumas as real and i can't. so there's no way to fix it.
A therapist might be able to help - have you considered going for counselling?
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self medicating keeps me from going crazy and suffering. if i don't have that i turn to other coping mechanisms.
There might be better coping mechanisms out there, have you talked to a doctor.
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my ideal job would be bed tester. :P
:D
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i'm interested in sleep disorders and stuff like that. and psychology. but can't see how to make money with such a degree and have no confidence in learning things.
Have a read:
http://www.psych.lancs.ac.uk/ug/careers.html
Also bear in mind with a degree you can do combined honours taking up two or more subjects, and that you don't neccesarily have to have a career in either of them - degrees are now more focused on skills than facts learnt. Plus you can do a masters and convert to another subject.

Really the important thing here is to start somewhere. Have you looked at the Open University for example?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 18, 2008, 04:03:15 PM
As for depressed people not bothering to exercise, totally not true.

Have you ever had clinical depression, Hadron? Getting out of bed is an effort. Eating is an effort. Dressing is an effort. Being bothered to do pretty much ANYTHING is an effort, never mind going for a run.
Yes - on more than one occasion. Also I have friends and family going through / having gone through it.
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When you're at the bottom of the spiral, finding the energy, motivation and willpower to exercise is likely to be beyond most people.
Probably not for most people - but some certainly do. It also depends on their set of circumstances.
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On the road to recovery, exercise can help enormously - I know it benefited me. But when the walls close in, going to the gym is pretty unlikely to be top of your list of priorities, don't you think?.
A person on the road to recovery still has clinical depression - and therefore is a depressed person.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 18, 2008, 04:39:36 PM
Have you ever had clinical depression, Hadron? Getting out of bed is an effort. Eating is an effort. Dressing is an effort. Being bothered to do pretty much ANYTHING is an effort, never mind going for a run. When you're at the bottom of the spiral, finding the energy, motivation and willpower to exercise is likely to be beyond most people. On the road to recovery, exercise can help enormously - I know it benefited me. But when the walls close in, going to the gym is pretty unlikely to be top of your list of priorities, don't you think?.

QFT

ditto.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: DirtDawg on December 18, 2008, 05:13:47 PM
Have you ever had clinical depression, Hadron? Getting out of bed is an effort. Eating is an effort. Dressing is an effort. Being bothered to do pretty much ANYTHING is an effort, never mind going for a run. When you're at the bottom of the spiral, finding the energy, motivation and willpower to exercise is likely to be beyond most people. On the road to recovery, exercise can help enormously - I know it benefited me. But when the walls close in, going to the gym is pretty unlikely to be top of your list of priorities, don't you think?.

QFT

ditto.



Tretto!

What in the puking puckered pink Phuck was he talking about, anyway?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Pyraxis on December 18, 2008, 06:30:53 PM
I suspect he's at a point in his own life where it's helping to not be enabled, to stop self-medicating, to get out of the house, and to accept the fact that he's depressed - and so he thinks it must apply to everyone.  :P
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 18, 2008, 06:33:38 PM
You should stay in your house, be brave, hate NTs and the whole world, etc etc.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 18, 2008, 06:49:42 PM
if i live alone my drinking gets out of hand. and i'm too paranoid to open the door for anyone and start to imagine people breaking in. i guess i could try it again and go on disability if i move back to finland, which is a possibility now that mom wants to move there. but i really was doing badly there. living here with mom gives me some kind of a bubble away from my past problems. maybe that is enabling and maybe that is me being too dependent, but there are people who actually are dependent for a reason. i don't feel good about it. i just dunno what to do other than go on disability, which i admit maybe i should do. i'm just afraid of changes and living alone again and being dependent on the government. it's scary.

Finland is brave. Be sure to get a gun if you move there.  :)
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: P7PSP on December 18, 2008, 07:38:40 PM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 18, 2008, 07:41:54 PM
There are a few good NTs, yes.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: DirtDawg on December 18, 2008, 07:47:30 PM
I suspect he's at a point in his own life where it's helping to not be enabled, to stop self-medicating, to get out of the house, and to accept the fact that he's depressed - and so he thinks it must apply to everyone.  :P

You know, you're probably right.

ToM is a bitch!
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 18, 2008, 07:52:47 PM
Really the important thing here is to start somewhere. Have you looked at the Open University for example?

i can't concentrate. i can't even read a book. i'm reading this dream book and i can barely do a page at a time even though it's really interesting. and that's something i picked for myself and read when i feel like it. i read bits and pieces. and it's a really short book. schools and deadlines don't work for me. i spent like 4 years in high school learning nothing until i dropped out. i'm not smart like you and driven as pure snow. :P or maybe i just can't do it alone. but i have no friends to do stuff with and without friends i don't really exist. and i can't get friends because they don't deserve a shit like me. i already feel bad about my online friends.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 18, 2008, 07:55:28 PM
Little Milla.  :-\
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 18, 2008, 08:03:43 PM
I suspect he's at a point in his own life where it's helping to not be enabled, to stop self-medicating, to get out of the house, and to accept the fact that he's depressed - and so he thinks it must apply to everyone.  :P
Not quite. Keep guessing though.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 18, 2008, 08:07:17 PM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 18, 2008, 08:14:26 PM
Down with the NTs!  :arrr:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: P7PSP on December 18, 2008, 08:30:00 PM
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.
The world is what it is and mentoring happens with non As people as well. You can choose to bang your head on the wall or deal with the way things are. If you choose to only learn from people on the spectrum that will limit your options to a significant extent.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 18, 2008, 08:31:31 PM
Really the important thing here is to start somewhere. Have you looked at the Open University for example?

i can't concentrate. i can't even read a book. i'm reading this dream book and i can barely do a page at a time even though it's really interesting. and that's something i picked for myself and read when i feel like it.
Maybe you could go for an audio book or something - I find them easier when I can't concentrate on stuff.
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i read bits and pieces. and it's a really short book. schools and deadlines don't work for me.
Deadlines never really work for me either - but I normally find some way of getting around them. Like requesting an extension.
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i spent like 4 years in high school learning nothing until i dropped out. i'm not smart like you and driven as pure snow. :P
I tend to take easy courses and avoid working a lot. Tbh I havent even gone to the majority of my lectures this term.
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or maybe i just can't do it alone.
The amount of help you can have access to at a university is amazing, if I had needed to I could have had a salarised employee as a minder for my whole time. Seriously. But as I like my independence and can do without I haven't got one. You can get pretty much all the help you need if you apply for it.
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but i have no friends to do stuff with and without friends i don't really exist. and i can't get friends because they don't deserve a shit like me. i already feel bad about my online friends.
My depressed friend says this quite often. It really is a classic sign of depression. Seriously Milla, get your mum to take you to the doctor and tell them all this. Write down everything about how you feel, live your life and so on and get an appointment. There is nothing wrong with asking for help.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 18, 2008, 08:32:52 PM
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.
The world is what it is and mentoring happens with non As people as well. You can choose to bang your head on the wall or deal with the way things are. If you choose to only learn from people on the spectrum that will limit your options to a significant extent.
I am a realist, obviously I don't choose to listen to people only on the spectrum. Do I like the reality? Of course not.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 18, 2008, 08:34:35 PM
Reality is bad.  :(
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 18, 2008, 09:01:04 PM
Milla check your PMs :)
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: renaeden on December 18, 2008, 09:28:13 PM
Milla, I don't think your mum has done you any favours.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 18, 2008, 09:32:03 PM
She's on mumability.  :-\ If she moves to Finland she'd get disability.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 18, 2008, 09:34:05 PM
She's on mumability.  :-\ If she moves to Finland she'd get disability.
Is Finnish disability any better than the Swedish system?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 18, 2008, 09:36:45 PM
She's on mumability.  :-\ If she moves to Finland she'd get disability.
Is Finnish disability any better than the Swedish system?

I'm not into the details, but I think it's about the same.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: DirtDawg on December 18, 2008, 09:47:47 PM

... an ass fucker not into details?


That's rich!!


:LMAO:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 18, 2008, 09:50:51 PM
 ???
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 01:40:12 AM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 01:42:22 AM
She's on mumability.  :-\ If she moves to Finland she'd get disability.
Is Finnish disability any better than the Swedish system?

It's a bit more difficult to get it but money-wise it's pretty much the same, AFAIK. The Finnish health care in general is more efficient, however, so things don't take as long there.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 19, 2008, 02:03:20 AM
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.
The world is what it is and mentoring happens with non As people as well. You can choose to bang your head on the wall or deal with the way things are. If you choose to only learn from people on the spectrum that will limit your options to a significant extent.

well said.   :plus:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 19, 2008, 04:22:02 AM
She's on mumability.  :-\ If she moves to Finland she'd get disability.
Is Finnish disability any better than the Swedish system?

It's a bit more difficult to get it but money-wise it's pretty much the same, AFAIK. The Finnish health care in general is more efficient, however, so things don't take as long there.

that's what i love about finland, things work. :green: ireland healthcare is shit.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 19, 2008, 04:22:44 AM
Finland is brave!  :arrr:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 06:04:54 AM
Well, yes it is.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: DirtDawg on December 19, 2008, 07:28:49 AM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.

I think that is how we arrived at the definition of neurotypical, after defining the majority, first.  Unfortunately for the pursuit of the science involved, as I have mentioned recently, the vast margins surrounding the "mapped points"  may approach infinity. 
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 19, 2008, 07:43:54 AM
We still have no reason to go to NTs for advice or anything. They should pay us compensation, IMHO, for bullying and shit that we have suffered and then leave us alone.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Pyraxis on December 19, 2008, 07:45:36 AM
Depends what kind of advice. NT's have been very useful in giving me advice on how to manipulate other NT's.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Pyraxis on December 19, 2008, 07:47:56 AM
I suspect he's at a point in his own life where it's helping to not be enabled, to stop self-medicating, to get out of the house, and to accept the fact that he's depressed - and so he thinks it must apply to everyone.  :P
Not quite. Keep guessing though.

The reality's even uglier?  :ner:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 19, 2008, 07:49:55 AM
I'm pretty good at manipulating NTs myself by now.

They call us predictable; if you once have learned the narrow-minded NT thinking, you can manipulate most of them easily. Their "social" lies, for instance, make them very easily manipulated. The fact that one "should" act in a certain way in a certain situation makes it easy to get them to act that way.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 19, 2008, 09:43:24 AM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.
I certainly can blame them for how they have defined their social structure and society - and then force it upon us.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 02:20:53 PM
We still have no reason to go to NTs for advice or anything. They should pay us compensation, IMHO, for bullying and shit that we have suffered and then leave us alone.

They do pay you--you live on disability, don't you?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 02:22:32 PM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.
I certainly can blame them for how they have defined their social structure and society - and then force it upon us.

You can, but it will make you look silly.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 19, 2008, 02:32:14 PM
We still have no reason to go to NTs for advice or anything. They should pay us compensation, IMHO, for bullying and shit that we have suffered and then leave us alone.

They do pay you--you live on disability, don't you?

That's not what I call compensation. I should have the same per day as I have per month, which I would have had if I could work with something where I could you most of my potential.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 02:34:05 PM
We still have no reason to go to NTs for advice or anything. They should pay us compensation, IMHO, for bullying and shit that we have suffered and then leave us alone.

They do pay you--you live on disability, don't you?

That's not what I call compensation. I should have the same per day as I have per month, which I would have had if I could work with something where I could you most of my potential.

English teacher? :zoinks:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Parts on December 19, 2008, 02:36:55 PM
We still have no reason to go to NTs for advice or anything. They should pay us compensation, IMHO, for bullying and shit that we have suffered and then leave us alone.

They do pay you--you live on disability, don't you?

That's not what I call compensation. I should have the same per day as I have per month, which I would have had if I could work with something where I could you most of my potential.

English teacher? :zoinks:

Maybe History :zoinks: :zoinks:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 19, 2008, 02:43:53 PM
Damned,  I don't misspell, but I mistype.  :-\

I've actually gotten a reward from the German consulate in Gothenburg for my German skills in elementary school. I was also "official" the best at history in my high school.  8)
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 19, 2008, 02:47:53 PM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.
I certainly can blame them for how they have defined their social structure and society - and then force it upon us.

You can, but it will make you look silly.
Not at all - especially when we reform their society.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 19, 2008, 02:51:27 PM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.
I certainly can blame them for how they have defined their social structure and society - and then force it upon us.

You can, but it will make you look silly.
Not at all - especially when we reform their society.

 :agreed:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 19, 2008, 02:52:54 PM
Damned,  I don't misspell, but I mistype.  :-\

I've actually gotten a reward from the German consulate in Gothenburg for my German skills in elementary school. I was also "official" the best at history in my high school.  8)
I got a few awards too at school - including most likely to a be a dictator :D
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 19, 2008, 02:53:36 PM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.
I certainly can blame them for how they have defined their social structure and society - and then force it upon us.

are you completely oblivious, or what?  don't you realise that most people haven't even heard of AS?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 19, 2008, 02:54:18 PM
Damned,  I don't misspell, but I mistype.  :-\

I've actually gotten a reward from the German consulate in Gothenburg for my German skills in elementary school. I was also "official" the best at history in my high school.  8)
I got a few awards too at school - including most likely to a be a dictator :D

That's because you have leader material in you.  :)
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 19, 2008, 02:55:32 PM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.
I certainly can blame them for how they have defined their social structure and society - and then force it upon us.

are you completely oblivious, or what?  don't you realise that most people haven't even heard of AS?

Because they're ignorant jerks. Another reason why they shouldn't be in a position to tell us anything or make us do anything.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 19, 2008, 02:58:49 PM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.
I certainly can blame them for how they have defined their social structure and society - and then force it upon us.

are you completely oblivious, or what?  don't you realise that most people haven't even heard of AS?
Oh - but they have bullied the quiet kid in the corner for being too bright haven't they, or shunned the old eccentric for being slightly "odd". Just because they don't use the label, doesn't mean they don't know who we are!
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 19, 2008, 03:00:19 PM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.
I certainly can blame them for how they have defined their social structure and society - and then force it upon us.

are you completely oblivious, or what?  don't you realise that most people haven't even heard of AS?
Oh - but they have bullied the quiet kid in the corner for being too bright haven't they, or shunned the old eccentric for being slightly "odd". Just because they don't use the label, doesn't mean they don't know who we are!

 :plus:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 19, 2008, 03:01:34 PM
do you know about ankylosing spondylitis?  or lupus?  or macular degneration?  or vascular dementia?

does not knowing make you an ignorant jerk?  no (although you are one, anyway, for other reasons).

:hahaha:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 19, 2008, 03:05:33 PM
do you know about ankylosing spondylitis?  or lupus?  or macular degneration?  or vascular dementia?

does not knowing make you an ignorant jerk?  
Actually I do know about all of them - but lets say you did manage to pull out an example here :)

But what I do know is that I havent beaten up or shunned anyone for having any of those conditions, or any other condition for that matter.
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no (although you are one, anyway, for other reasons).

:hahaha:
Go for it...
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: DirtDawg on December 19, 2008, 03:06:22 PM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.
I certainly can blame them for how they have defined their social structure and society - and then force it upon us.

are you completely oblivious, or what?  don't you realise that most people haven't even heard of AS?
Oh - but they have bullied the quiet kid in the corner for being too bright haven't they, or shunned the old eccentric for being slightly "odd". Just because they don't use the label, doesn't mean they don't know who we are!



See if this makes you feel better.

(http://www.twinstoquints.com/Pacifier.jpg)
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 19, 2008, 03:06:53 PM
I have beaten up other kids for being bullied - and they moved me from that school for it.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 19, 2008, 03:07:24 PM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.
I certainly can blame them for how they have defined their social structure and society - and then force it upon us.

are you completely oblivious, or what?  don't you realise that most people haven't even heard of AS?
Oh - but they have bullied the quiet kid in the corner for being too bright haven't they, or shunned the old eccentric for being slightly "odd". Just because they don't use the label, doesn't mean they don't know who we are!



See if this makes you feel better.

(http://www.twinstoquints.com/Pacifier.jpg)

Oh, an argument on odeon-level.  ::)
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: DirtDawg on December 19, 2008, 03:11:00 PM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.
I certainly can blame them for how they have defined their social structure and society - and then force it upon us.

are you completely oblivious, or what?  don't you realise that most people haven't even heard of AS?
Oh - but they have bullied the quiet kid in the corner for being too bright haven't they, or shunned the old eccentric for being slightly "odd". Just because they don't use the label, doesn't mean they don't know who we are!



See if this makes you feel better.

(http://www.twinstoquints.com/Pacifier.jpg)

Oh, an argument on odeon-level.  ::)

Oh, so I'm supposed to argue on some juvenile level about a bunch of whining, instead of make a single photo comment?

I'm not arguing, anyway, but I don't see the point in whining about all that shit, still.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 19, 2008, 03:12:18 PM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.
I certainly can blame them for how they have defined their social structure and society - and then force it upon us.

are you completely oblivious, or what?  don't you realise that most people haven't even heard of AS?
Oh - but they have bullied the quiet kid in the corner for being too bright haven't they, or shunned the old eccentric for being slightly "odd". Just because they don't use the label, doesn't mean they don't know who we are!



See if this makes you feel better.

(http://www.twinstoquints.com/Pacifier.jpg)
:yawn:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 03:18:54 PM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.
I certainly can blame them for how they have defined their social structure and society - and then force it upon us.

You can, but it will make you look silly.
Not at all - especially when we reform their society.

Let's see... Is it likely that 0.5% of the population is allowed to reorganise the society now defined by the other 95.5%?

You will look extremely silly.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 03:19:37 PM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.
I certainly can blame them for how they have defined their social structure and society - and then force it upon us.

are you completely oblivious, or what?  don't you realise that most people haven't even heard of AS?

The short answer, obviously, is "yes".
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 03:20:01 PM
Damned,  I don't misspell, but I mistype.  :-\

I've actually gotten a reward from the German consulate in Gothenburg for my German skills in elementary school. I was also "official" the best at history in my high school.  8)
I got a few awards too at school - including most likely to a be a dictator :D

That's because you have leader material in you.  :)

:LMAO: :rofl: :LMAO:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 03:21:40 PM
I have beaten up other kids for being bullied - and they moved me from that school for it.

They were bullied and you beat them up? No wonder you had to move. :P
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 19, 2008, 03:23:01 PM
I must cut down on tramadol.  :-[

Considering their stupidity, I should have been allowed to bully them.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 03:23:57 PM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.
I certainly can blame them for how they have defined their social structure and society - and then force it upon us.

are you completely oblivious, or what?  don't you realise that most people haven't even heard of AS?
Oh - but they have bullied the quiet kid in the corner for being too bright haven't they, or shunned the old eccentric for being slightly "odd". Just because they don't use the label, doesn't mean they don't know who we are!



See if this makes you feel better.

(http://www.twinstoquints.com/Pacifier.jpg)

Oh, an argument on odeon-level.  ::)

You wouldn't know an actual argument even if it bit you (which mine often do, btw), because your reading comprehension is even worse than your ability to actually come up with one. :smarty:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 19, 2008, 03:27:20 PM
OK. Were there more crimes with guns in Sweden in 1926 than in 2008?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 03:30:57 PM
OK. Were there more crimes with guns in Sweden in 1926 than in 2008?

Wrong thread. As I said in that *other* thread, you need to work on your reading comprehension.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 19, 2008, 03:36:11 PM
So there were more crimes in 1926?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 19, 2008, 03:39:24 PM
See if this makes you feel better.

(http://www.twinstoquints.com/Pacifier.jpg)

:LMAO:

 :plus:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: DirtDawg on December 19, 2008, 03:40:00 PM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.
I certainly can blame them for how they have defined their social structure and society - and then force it upon us.

You can, but it will make you look silly.
Not at all - especially when we reform their society.

Let's see... Is it likely that 0.5% of the population is allowed to reorganise the society now defined by the other 95.5%?

You will look extremely silly.


The only argument I would make so far is that you are using a future tense, here.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 03:40:33 PM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.
I certainly can blame them for how they have defined their social structure and society - and then force it upon us.

You can, but it will make you look silly.
Not at all - especially when we reform their society.

Let's see... Is it likely that 0.5% of the population is allowed to reorganise the society now defined by the other 95.5%?

You will look extremely silly.


The only argument I would make so far is that you are using a future tense, here?

I was trying to be charitable.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 19, 2008, 03:40:58 PM
why?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 03:42:29 PM
why?

Because that's the kind of person I am? :P
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 19, 2008, 03:43:49 PM
why?

Because that's the kind of person I am? :P

blimey - you *can* teach an old dog new tricks.  :smarty:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 03:45:07 PM
why?

Because that's the kind of person I am? :P

blimey - you *can* teach an old dog new tricks.  :smarty:

:angel:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 19, 2008, 03:46:35 PM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.
I certainly can blame them for how they have defined their social structure and society - and then force it upon us.

You can, but it will make you look silly.
Not at all - especially when we reform their society.

Let's see... Is it likely that 0.5% of the population is allowed to reorganise the society now defined by the other 95.5%?

You will look extremely silly.
Your maths is shockingly bad - percentages add up to 100

As for the 0.5%, think bigger and also think that if we were half wise, we wouldn't explicitly tell them our full aims. We would instead dress them up.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 19, 2008, 03:48:27 PM
As for the 0.5%, think bigger and also think that if we were half wise, we wouldn't explicitly tell them our full aims. We would instead dress them up.

which is an "NT" skill.  next?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 19, 2008, 03:51:03 PM
As for the 0.5%, think bigger and also think that if we were half wise, we wouldn't explicitly tell them our full aims. We would instead dress them up.

which is an "NT" skill.  next?
We would use their own tricks against them, yes. Do you have a problem with that?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 19, 2008, 03:53:24 PM
As for the 0.5%, think bigger and also think that if we were half wise, we wouldn't explicitly tell them our full aims. We would instead dress them up.

which is an "NT" skill.  next?
We would use their own tricks against them, yes. Do you have a problem with that?

yes, i have.

you castigate "NTs" for their "tricks", and then use those same "tricks" yourself.  hypocritical, much?

::)
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 03:56:51 PM
Though I also mostly don't give a fuck about the NT infested piece-of-shit world outside my house or at least outside my village.
:minusevil: I disagree with the term NT infested TheoK. Through out my time in the military, college and the work force there have been non Autist people who have provided help and advice when I needed it just because it was their nature to do so. Danny Thomas is about as neurotypical as they come and he founded St. Jude's Childrens Hospital without the benefit of autism.   
The fact is that we should not have to go to them for advice - or need nice NT's to help us out. Society should not be structured in such a way that we are dependent on NT's to teach us how to play by their rules.

Reality check: the majority of people are neurotypical. Don't blame them for your shortcomings.
I certainly can blame them for how they have defined their social structure and society - and then force it upon us.

You can, but it will make you look silly.
Not at all - especially when we reform their society.

Let's see... Is it likely that 0.5% of the population is allowed to reorganise the society now defined by the other 95.5%?

You will look extremely silly.
Your maths is shockingly bad - percentages add up to 100

As for the 0.5%, think bigger and also think that if we were half wise, we wouldn't explicitly tell them our full aims. We would instead dress them up.

:laugh: I *knew* I would do something like that. I really need to read what I wrote before hitting "Send".
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 19, 2008, 03:58:44 PM
As for the 0.5%, think bigger and also think that if we were half wise, we wouldn't explicitly tell them our full aims. We would instead dress them up.

which is an "NT" skill.  next?
We would use their own tricks against them, yes. Do you have a problem with that?

yes, i have.

you castigate "NTs" for their "tricks", and then use those same "tricks" yourself.  hypocritical, much?

::)

Not at all. In wars the soldiers often pick up guns from dead soldiers on the enemy side.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 19, 2008, 03:59:03 PM
As for the 0.5%, think bigger and also think that if we were half wise, we wouldn't explicitly tell them our full aims. We would instead dress them up.

which is an "NT" skill.  next?
We would use their own tricks against them, yes. Do you have a problem with that?

yes, i have.

you castigate "NTs" for their "tricks", and then use those same "tricks" yourself.  hypocritical, much?

::)
Well I am a realist, not an idealist. In order to correct society, certain things have to be done, that might be against the rules of a future society.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 04:00:56 PM
So, tell me, what is your ideal world like, and how are you proposing to get there?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 19, 2008, 04:02:48 PM
As for the 0.5%, think bigger and also think that if we were half wise, we wouldn't explicitly tell them our full aims. We would instead dress them up.

which is an "NT" skill.  next?
We would use their own tricks against them, yes. Do you have a problem with that?

yes, i have.

you castigate "NTs" for their "tricks", and then use those same "tricks" yourself.  hypocritical, much?

::)
Well I am a realist, not an idealist. In order to correct society, certain things have to be done, that might be against the rules of a future society.

so, basically, you'll change your tune about everything when it suits you.

funnily enough, that's been clear for a long time, and why i don't hold much credance for any of your opinions.

a real shame, cos you do have a brain.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 19, 2008, 04:05:46 PM
So, tell me, what is your ideal world like, and how are you proposing to get there?
My ideal world would be an intellectual meritocracy in short. How we get there would depend on the political situation - but there are options. Personally I feel waiting to see how Obama is going to pan out before we make any moves.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 04:06:58 PM
So, tell me, what is your ideal world like, and how are you proposing to get there?
My ideal world would be an intellectual meritocracy in short. How we get there would depend on the political situation - but there are options. Personally I feel waiting to see how Obama is going to pan out before we make any moves.

And what might those moves be?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 19, 2008, 04:10:09 PM
As for the 0.5%, think bigger and also think that if we were half wise, we wouldn't explicitly tell them our full aims. We would instead dress them up.

which is an "NT" skill.  next?
We would use their own tricks against them, yes. Do you have a problem with that?

yes, i have.

you castigate "NTs" for their "tricks", and then use those same "tricks" yourself.  hypocritical, much?

::)
Well I am a realist, not an idealist. In order to correct society, certain things have to be done, that might be against the rules of a future society.

so, basically, you'll change your tune about everything when it suits you.

funnily enough, that's been clear for a long time, and why i don't hold much credance for any of your opinions.

a real shame, cos you do have a brain.
You always seem to miss the subtleties here really...
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 19, 2008, 04:13:40 PM
So, tell me, what is your ideal world like, and how are you proposing to get there?
My ideal world would be an intellectual meritocracy in short. How we get there would depend on the political situation - but there are options. Personally I feel waiting to see how Obama is going to pan out before we make any moves.

And what might those moves be?
Political or otherwise. These could include hijacking top political positions for our own ends, campaigns targeted against certain organisations or institutions. However before we think about strategy we would need an organisation of some kind. Fortunately there are few out there that might be subvertable. What is key is to avoid any association with Autism for as long as possible.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 04:15:30 PM
So, tell me, what is your ideal world like, and how are you proposing to get there?
My ideal world would be an intellectual meritocracy in short. How we get there would depend on the political situation - but there are options. Personally I feel waiting to see how Obama is going to pan out before we make any moves.

And what might those moves be?
Political or otherwise. These could include hijacking top political positions for our own ends, campaigns targeted against certain organisations or institutions. However before we think about strategy we would need an organisation of some kind. Fortunately there are few out there that might be subvertable. What is key is to avoid any association with Autism for as long as possible.

Not being autistic?

There's no chance that you'd be able to hijack any political position of any importance whatsoever. Read the DSM and see why.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 19, 2008, 04:16:47 PM
So, tell me, what is your ideal world like, and how are you proposing to get there?
My ideal world would be an intellectual meritocracy in short. How we get there would depend on the political situation - but there are options. Personally I feel waiting to see how Obama is going to pan out before we make any moves.

And what might those moves be?
Political or otherwise. These could include hijacking top political positions for our own ends, campaigns targeted against certain organisations or institutions. However before we think about strategy we would need an organisation of some kind. Fortunately there are few out there that might be subvertable. What is key is to avoid any association with Autism for as long as possible.

Not being autistic?

There's no chance that you'd be able to hijack any political position of any importance whatsoever. Read the DSM and see why.

Hitler might have been an Aspie. He hijacked half of Europe.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 04:17:48 PM
So, tell me, what is your ideal world like, and how are you proposing to get there?
My ideal world would be an intellectual meritocracy in short. How we get there would depend on the political situation - but there are options. Personally I feel waiting to see how Obama is going to pan out before we make any moves.

And what might those moves be?
Political or otherwise. These could include hijacking top political positions for our own ends, campaigns targeted against certain organisations or institutions. However before we think about strategy we would need an organisation of some kind. Fortunately there are few out there that might be subvertable. What is key is to avoid any association with Autism for as long as possible.

Not being autistic?

There's no chance that you'd be able to hijack any political position of any importance whatsoever. Read the DSM and see why.

Hitler might have been an Aspie. He hijacked half of Europe.

He wasn't. He was a very sick puppy, but not a spazz.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 19, 2008, 04:20:16 PM
So, tell me, what is your ideal world like, and how are you proposing to get there?
My ideal world would be an intellectual meritocracy in short. How we get there would depend on the political situation - but there are options. Personally I feel waiting to see how Obama is going to pan out before we make any moves.

And what might those moves be?
Political or otherwise. These could include hijacking top political positions for our own ends, campaigns targeted against certain organisations or institutions. However before we think about strategy we would need an organisation of some kind. Fortunately there are few out there that might be subvertable. What is key is to avoid any association with Autism for as long as possible.

Not being autistic?

There's no chance that you'd be able to hijack any political position of any importance whatsoever. Read the DSM and see why.
You should probably take a closer look at modern politics, there are some blatently autistic people either in the positions or more often as the power behind such a throne. Bear in mind I would not need to hold the position to subvert it - there are other ways of influencing people.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 19, 2008, 04:21:03 PM
So, tell me, what is your ideal world like, and how are you proposing to get there?
My ideal world would be an intellectual meritocracy in short. How we get there would depend on the political situation - but there are options. Personally I feel waiting to see how Obama is going to pan out before we make any moves.

And what might those moves be?
Political or otherwise. These could include hijacking top political positions for our own ends, campaigns targeted against certain organisations or institutions. However before we think about strategy we would need an organisation of some kind. Fortunately there are few out there that might be subvertable. What is key is to avoid any association with Autism for as long as possible.

Not being autistic?

There's no chance that you'd be able to hijack any political position of any importance whatsoever. Read the DSM and see why.

Hitler might have been an Aspie. He hijacked half of Europe.

He wasn't. He was a very sick puppy, but not a spazz.

Are you a psychiatrist? My first shrink was a chief psychiatrist and he told me that Hitler might have been an Aspie. I didn't ask or anything, he was the one who came up with it.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 04:27:52 PM
So, tell me, what is your ideal world like, and how are you proposing to get there?
My ideal world would be an intellectual meritocracy in short. How we get there would depend on the political situation - but there are options. Personally I feel waiting to see how Obama is going to pan out before we make any moves.

And what might those moves be?
Political or otherwise. These could include hijacking top political positions for our own ends, campaigns targeted against certain organisations or institutions. However before we think about strategy we would need an organisation of some kind. Fortunately there are few out there that might be subvertable. What is key is to avoid any association with Autism for as long as possible.

Not being autistic?

There's no chance that you'd be able to hijack any political position of any importance whatsoever. Read the DSM and see why.
You should probably take a closer look at modern politics, there are some blatently autistic people either in the positions or more often as the power behind such a throne. Bear in mind I would not need to hold the position to subvert it - there are other ways of influencing people.

I have had several close looks over the years. Not one of the politicians with any discernible autistic traits also possessed your absurdly naive views. Not one.

The one rumoured to actually have a dx, Al Gore, is your exact opposite.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 19, 2008, 04:33:43 PM
So, tell me, what is your ideal world like, and how are you proposing to get there?
My ideal world would be an intellectual meritocracy in short. How we get there would depend on the political situation - but there are options. Personally I feel waiting to see how Obama is going to pan out before we make any moves.

And what might those moves be?
Political or otherwise. These could include hijacking top political positions for our own ends, campaigns targeted against certain organisations or institutions. However before we think about strategy we would need an organisation of some kind. Fortunately there are few out there that might be subvertable. What is key is to avoid any association with Autism for as long as possible.

Not being autistic?

There's no chance that you'd be able to hijack any political position of any importance whatsoever. Read the DSM and see why.

Hitler might have been an Aspie. He hijacked half of Europe.

He wasn't. He was a very sick puppy, but not a spazz.

Are you a psychiatrist? My first shrink was a chief psychiatrist and he told me that Hitler might have been an Aspie. I didn't ask or anything, he was the one who came up with it.

You had an overdose of Wrong Planet lately? All those "diagnosing famous dead people" threads must have gone to your head.

Face it--if it had been a generally accepted opinion, the public would have been all over us. There is no way something like that would not have been used.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 19, 2008, 04:43:57 PM
So, tell me, what is your ideal world like, and how are you proposing to get there?
My ideal world would be an intellectual meritocracy in short. How we get there would depend on the political situation - but there are options. Personally I feel waiting to see how Obama is going to pan out before we make any moves.

And what might those moves be?
Political or otherwise. These could include hijacking top political positions for our own ends, campaigns targeted against certain organisations or institutions. However before we think about strategy we would need an organisation of some kind. Fortunately there are few out there that might be subvertable. What is key is to avoid any association with Autism for as long as possible.

Not being autistic?

There's no chance that you'd be able to hijack any political position of any importance whatsoever. Read the DSM and see why.
You should probably take a closer look at modern politics, there are some blatently autistic people either in the positions or more often as the power behind such a throne. Bear in mind I would not need to hold the position to subvert it - there are other ways of influencing people.

I have had several close looks over the years. Not one of the politicians with any discernible autistic traits also possessed your absurdly naive views. Not one.

The one rumoured to actually have a dx, Al Gore, is your exact opposite.
I have no idea about Al Gore - not looked closely enough. Though there are some British politicians who are almost certainly on the spectrum, I would begin by naming Boris and Gordon. The key difference here btw - is that these people don't know that they are on the spectrum. The next generation might.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 19, 2008, 04:45:36 PM
So, tell me, what is your ideal world like, and how are you proposing to get there?
My ideal world would be an intellectual meritocracy in short. How we get there would depend on the political situation - but there are options. Personally I feel waiting to see how Obama is going to pan out before we make any moves.

And what might those moves be?
Political or otherwise. These could include hijacking top political positions for our own ends, campaigns targeted against certain organisations or institutions. However before we think about strategy we would need an organisation of some kind. Fortunately there are few out there that might be subvertable. What is key is to avoid any association with Autism for as long as possible.

Not being autistic?

There's no chance that you'd be able to hijack any political position of any importance whatsoever. Read the DSM and see why.

Hitler might have been an Aspie. He hijacked half of Europe.

He wasn't. He was a very sick puppy, but not a spazz.

Are you a psychiatrist? My first shrink was a chief psychiatrist and he told me that Hitler might have been an Aspie. I didn't ask or anything, he was the one who came up with it.

You had an overdose of Wrong Planet lately? All those "diagnosing famous dead people" threads must have gone to your head.

Face it--if it had been a generally accepted opinion, the public would have been all over us. There is no way something like that would not have been used.

I haven't visited WP for over 2 years and I was told that before I even had heard of the Internet.

It's not a generally accepted opinion, but it's a posibility.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 19, 2008, 05:03:52 PM
You always seem to miss the subtleties here really...

you have an very strange definition of "subtleties".  would you please point out what "subtleties" you're referring to here?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 19, 2008, 05:05:41 PM
I have no idea about Al Gore - not looked closely enough. Though there are some British politicians who are almost certainly on the spectrum, I would begin by naming Boris and Gordon. The key difference here btw - is that these people don't know that they are on the spectrum. The next generation might.

why do you think boris and gordon are on the specturm?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 19, 2008, 05:13:54 PM
You always seem to miss the subtleties here really...

you have an very strange definition of "subtleties".  would you please point out what "subtleties" you're referring to here?
The difference between disliking something and being forced to apply them. For example I might hate clothes, but if I go out without them I get arrested.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 19, 2008, 05:14:18 PM
I have no idea about Al Gore - not looked closely enough. Though there are some British politicians who are almost certainly on the spectrum, I would begin by naming Boris and Gordon. The key difference here btw - is that these people don't know that they are on the spectrum. The next generation might.

why do you think boris and gordon are on the specturm?

Oh, I forgot. My shrink told me about one living person who is an Aspie. He's a minister in the current government.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 19, 2008, 05:15:44 PM
I have no idea about Al Gore - not looked closely enough. Though there are some British politicians who are almost certainly on the spectrum, I would begin by naming Boris and Gordon. The key difference here btw - is that these people don't know that they are on the spectrum. The next generation might.

why do you think boris and gordon are on the specturm?
Gordon - I read his lifestory (a really good book by Tom Bower) which pretty much describes him having all the character traits. Boris - just watch him closely.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 19, 2008, 07:59:56 PM
i thought gordon was an asshole.

can you summarize his lifestory for us ADDs? :P
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 19, 2008, 08:11:44 PM
i thought gordon was an asshole.

can you summarize his lifestory for us ADDs? :P
I quite like him - really he is old Labour and if re-elected would be quite fun. As in what he might do to private schools...

As for a life summary - wiki might be good:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Brown
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 20, 2008, 03:33:19 AM
You always seem to miss the subtleties here really...

you have an very strange definition of "subtleties".  would you please point out what "subtleties" you're referring to here?
The difference between disliking something and being forced to apply them. For example I might hate clothes, but if I go out without them I get arrested.

doesn't wash - if you're intent on taking over society, why aren't you working towards changing that society by doing things differently.  you'll just end up as the same old, same old, otherwise - you keep banging on about politics, have another look at political history and see how that very thing happens, even with those with the noblest of intentions.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 20, 2008, 03:34:06 AM
I have no idea about Al Gore - not looked closely enough. Though there are some British politicians who are almost certainly on the spectrum, I would begin by naming Boris and Gordon. The key difference here btw - is that these people don't know that they are on the spectrum. The next generation might.

why do you think boris and gordon are on the specturm?
Gordon - I read his lifestory (a really good book by Tom Bower) which pretty much describes him having all the character traits. Boris - just watch him closely.

that's not enough of an answer: what specifically about these two are characteristic of having AS?

back up what you're saying.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: DirtDawg on December 20, 2008, 12:57:28 PM
I have no idea about Al Gore - not looked closely enough. Though there are some British politicians who are almost certainly on the spectrum, I would begin by naming Boris and Gordon. The key difference here btw - is that these people don't know that they are on the spectrum. The next generation might.

why do you think boris and gordon are on the specturm?
Gordon - I read his lifestory (a really good book by Tom Bower) which pretty much describes him having all the character traits. Boris - just watch him closely.

that's not enough of an answer: what specifically about these two are characteristic of having AS?

back up what you're saying.

Why should he start now?

???


He's mostly gotten a bye, because his resources are limited and he is barely of age. You are pressing a wrinkle that will remain after pressing, despite the vinegar we throw on it.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 20, 2008, 01:08:53 PM
He's not a hypocrite sticking his head in the sand at least, like most "adults" here.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 20, 2008, 01:14:40 PM
I have no idea about Al Gore - not looked closely enough. Though there are some British politicians who are almost certainly on the spectrum, I would begin by naming Boris and Gordon. The key difference here btw - is that these people don't know that they are on the spectrum. The next generation might.

why do you think boris and gordon are on the specturm?

Oh, I forgot. My shrink told me about one living person who is an Aspie. He's a minister in the current government.

Who?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: DirtDawg on December 20, 2008, 01:16:05 PM
He's not a hypocrite sticking his head in the sand at least, like most "adults" here.

Of course he is. Read back a bit.

Sticking your head in the sand and choosing to fight a "winnable" battle are slightly different.

Are you calling me an ostrich?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 20, 2008, 01:23:30 PM
I have no idea about Al Gore - not looked closely enough. Though there are some British politicians who are almost certainly on the spectrum, I would begin by naming Boris and Gordon. The key difference here btw - is that these people don't know that they are on the spectrum. The next generation might.

why do you think boris and gordon are on the specturm?

Oh, I forgot. My shrink told me about one living person who is an Aspie. He's a minister in the current government.

Who?

One of the best known of them all. Not the egg head, though.  8)
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 20, 2008, 01:45:02 PM
I have no idea about Al Gore - not looked closely enough. Though there are some British politicians who are almost certainly on the spectrum, I would begin by naming Boris and Gordon. The key difference here btw - is that these people don't know that they are on the spectrum. The next generation might.

why do you think boris and gordon are on the specturm?

Oh, I forgot. My shrink told me about one living person who is an Aspie. He's a minister in the current government.

Who?

One of the best known of them all. Not the egg head, though.  8)

/shrugs

Either tell us or don't. Your credibility won't suffer much because you don't have any.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 20, 2008, 01:47:12 PM
He isn't even in the highest position he ever was in at the moment.

But according to you, an Aspie could never get such a position.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on December 20, 2008, 02:01:47 PM
Your dibilating, everyone copying someone disrupts the mental health of everyone.  People on the spectrum already have enough trouble with that when they have not learned not to.  Everyone needs stimulation and breaks.  Attempting to immitate what you think is bisexual is folly to,  I am not, nor will I ever will.   I would COMMIT SUICIDE before I do anything with a man, and I could come up with ways to getting around issues I have with suicide.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 20, 2008, 02:26:21 PM
He isn't even in the highest position he ever was in at the moment.

how exciting... not.

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But according to you, an Aspie could never get such a position.

Where did I say that? I said *Hadron* couldn't hijack any position of power.

You do need to do something about your poor reading comprehension. Do you suppose antipsychotics would help?

Notice how cleverly I'm bringing back this thread on topic.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 20, 2008, 02:28:00 PM
I have given all the clues needed to figure out who it is.  8)

Why wouldn't Hadron get in that position? Because he's too honest?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 20, 2008, 02:46:01 PM
I have no idea about Al Gore - not looked closely enough. Though there are some British politicians who are almost certainly on the spectrum, I would begin by naming Boris and Gordon. The key difference here btw - is that these people don't know that they are on the spectrum. The next generation might.

why do you think boris and gordon are on the specturm?
Gordon - I read his lifestory (a really good book by Tom Bower) which pretty much describes him having all the character traits. Boris - just watch him closely.

that's not enough of an answer: what specifically about these two are characteristic of having AS?

back up what you're saying.

Why should he start now?

???


He's mostly gotten a bye, because his resources are limited and he is barely of age. You are pressing a wrinkle that will remain after pressing, despite the vinegar we throw on it.

excellent point - i'll stop wasting my breath.   :thumbup:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 20, 2008, 03:08:31 PM
I have given all the clues needed to figure out who it is.  8)

Why wouldn't Hadron get in that position? Because he's too honest?

Because he's too naive and too unwilling to take responsibility for his actions? Because while he does have a brain, he rarely seems to use it these days?

I'll give him the benefit of a doubt but I'm fairly sure the future will prove me right.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 20, 2008, 04:34:12 PM
You always seem to miss the subtleties here really...

you have an very strange definition of "subtleties".  would you please point out what "subtleties" you're referring to here?
The difference between disliking something and being forced to apply them. For example I might hate clothes, but if I go out without them I get arrested.

doesn't wash - if you're intent on taking over society, why aren't you working towards changing that society by doing things differently. 
Time, or lack of it. Asides in the next 20 years a very major opportunity will be coming up, we may as well exploit it.
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you'll just end up as the same old, same old, otherwise - you keep banging on about politics, have another look at political history and see how that very thing happens, even with those with the noblest of intentions.
I intend not to wield any direct power myself, largely because its better to have flunkies in such positions.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 20, 2008, 04:43:43 PM
I have given all the clues needed to figure out who it is.  8)

Why wouldn't Hadron get in that position? Because he's too honest?

Because he's too naive and too unwilling to take responsibility for his actions?
Thats quite funny you say "naive", this week a friend of mine was complaining about my lack of optimism - rather than naivety. As for responsibility, I never said I wanted to fill a position myself. Much more fun letting others take the rap...
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Because while he does have a brain, he rarely seems to use it these days?
Bush wiill probably go down as the most influential person in a long period of history - my strategy isn't a bad one.
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I'll give him the benefit of a doubt but I'm fairly sure the future will prove me right.
Wait and see...
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 20, 2008, 05:19:04 PM
I have given all the clues needed to figure out who it is.  8)

Why wouldn't Hadron get in that position? Because he's too honest?

Because he's too naive and too unwilling to take responsibility for his actions?
Thats quite funny you say "naive", this week a friend of mine was complaining about my lack of optimism - rather than naivety. As for responsibility, I never said I wanted to fill a position myself. Much more fun letting others take the rap...

I'm referring to what's been all too apparent here, Hadron. It is conceivable that you come off as less naive in real life, but the odds are against you.

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Because while he does have a brain, he rarely seems to use it these days?
Bush wiill probably go down as the most influential person in a long period of history - my strategy isn't a bad one.

This is how you choose your role models? :o

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I'll give him the benefit of a doubt but I'm fairly sure the future will prove me right.
Wait and see...

I hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 20, 2008, 05:41:43 PM
i like gordon now. he likes jews and is against corruption. :headbang2:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 20, 2008, 05:46:32 PM
You always seem to miss the subtleties here really...

you have an very strange definition of "subtleties".  would you please point out what "subtleties" you're referring to here?
The difference between disliking something and being forced to apply them. For example I might hate clothes, but if I go out without them I get arrested.

doesn't wash - if you're intent on taking over society, why aren't you working towards changing that society by doing things differently. 
Time, or lack of it. Asides in the next 20 years a very major opportunity will be coming up, we may as well exploit it.
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you'll just end up as the same old, same old, otherwise - you keep banging on about politics, have another look at political history and see how that very thing happens, even with those with the noblest of intentions.
I intend not to wield any direct power myself, largely because its better to have flunkies in such positions.

more cop outs.

dawg's right - i'll stop wasting my breath.  ::)
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: El on December 20, 2008, 06:02:06 PM
I have no idea about Al Gore - not looked closely enough. Though there are some British politicians who are almost certainly on the spectrum, I would begin by naming Boris and Gordon. The key difference here btw - is that these people don't know that they are on the spectrum. The next generation might.

why do you think boris and gordon are on the specturm?

Oh, I forgot. My shrink told me about one living person who is an Aspie. He's a minister in the current government.
And if a psychiatrist said it, it HAS to be right.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 20, 2008, 06:19:11 PM
I have no idea about Al Gore - not looked closely enough. Though there are some British politicians who are almost certainly on the spectrum, I would begin by naming Boris and Gordon. The key difference here btw - is that these people don't know that they are on the spectrum. The next generation might.

why do you think boris and gordon are on the specturm?

Oh, I forgot. My shrink told me about one living person who is an Aspie. He's a minister in the current government.
And if a psychiatrist said it, it HAS to be right.

If he has seen his journals and the diagnosis isn't wrong: yes.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Pyraxis on December 20, 2008, 06:25:10 PM
Didn't you get locked up by equally qualified people?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 20, 2008, 07:05:01 PM
I have given all the clues needed to figure out who it is.  8)

Why wouldn't Hadron get in that position? Because he's too honest?

Because he's too naive and too unwilling to take responsibility for his actions?
Thats quite funny you say "naive", this week a friend of mine was complaining about my lack of optimism - rather than naivety. As for responsibility, I never said I wanted to fill a position myself. Much more fun letting others take the rap...

I'm referring to what's been all too apparent here, Hadron. It is conceivable that you come off as less naive in real life, but the odds are against you.
Thankfully I am not the only person who is on my wavelength, and even if I directly do nothing myself - chances are one of use will sort it.
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Because while he does have a brain, he rarely seems to use it these days?
Bush wiill probably go down as the most influential person in a long period of history - my strategy isn't a bad one.

This is how you choose your role models? :o
No - but the acting dim strategy really works. In a way, although Bush has done a lot of evil things, 20-25 years on everyone will see how much of an effect he really has had.
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I'll give him the benefit of a doubt but I'm fairly sure the future will prove me right.
Wait and see...

I hope I'm wrong.
Hope or lack of hope rarely have too much of an impact..
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: El on December 21, 2008, 02:23:13 PM
I have no idea about Al Gore - not looked closely enough. Though there are some British politicians who are almost certainly on the spectrum, I would begin by naming Boris and Gordon. The key difference here btw - is that these people don't know that they are on the spectrum. The next generation might.

why do you think boris and gordon are on the specturm?

Oh, I forgot. My shrink told me about one living person who is an Aspie. He's a minister in the current government.
And if a psychiatrist said it, it HAS to be right.

If he has seen his journals and the diagnosis isn't wrong: yes.
So what is your opinion on psychiatry and the diagnostic system and its implimentation and origins as it relates to NTs, again, mr. Evil-NT-Consipracy-theorist?  Do you think it's for aspies, by aspies, and the only reason AS is listed as a 'disorder' is because they don't want the people in power to realize it's a way for people on the spectrum to recognize one another, like a secret fucking handshake or something?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 21, 2008, 02:25:45 PM
No - but the acting dim strategy really works.

It doesn't work for you. You both come off as dim, but in your case you're still a spazz while Bush was President of the United States for eight years.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 21, 2008, 02:35:44 PM
No - but the acting dim strategy really works.

It doesn't work for you. You both come off as dim, but in your case you're still a spazz while Bush was President of the United States for eight years.

haddy is cuter.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 21, 2008, 02:37:31 PM
No - but the acting dim strategy really works.

It doesn't work for you. You both come off as dim, but in your case you're still a spazz while Bush was President of the United States for eight years.

haddy is cuter.

OK. Haddy wins. Tell him to leave Iraq. Now! :P
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 21, 2008, 05:27:25 PM
No - but the acting dim strategy really works.

It doesn't work for you. You both come off as dim, but in your case you're still a spazz while Bush was President of the United States for eight years.
I want to come off as dim - you miss the point here. I have always played my hand in such a manner that people never notice until I have hit them, and very often they dont blame me.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Pyraxis on December 21, 2008, 05:42:52 PM
Have you ever actually hit anybody on here?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 21, 2008, 05:52:41 PM
Have you ever actually hit anybody on here?
I hope not - not that I really need to. Not a week goes by without someone attempting to chat me up whilst at uni...
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Pyraxis on December 21, 2008, 05:53:30 PM
Er, read my post again.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 21, 2008, 05:56:32 PM
No - but the acting dim strategy really works.

It doesn't work for you. You both come off as dim, but in your case you're still a spazz while Bush was President of the United States for eight years.
I want to come off as dim - you miss the point here. I have always played my hand in such a manner that people never notice until I have hit them, and very often they dont blame me.

:LMAO:

You like to paint that image of yourself, I know, but so far the part you've had any luck with is that first part.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 21, 2008, 06:23:47 PM
Er, read my post again.
Hit is such a subjective word - try a more precise question.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Pyraxis on December 21, 2008, 06:26:39 PM
Er, read my post again.
Hit is such a subjective word - try a more precise question.

 :laugh:

You're the one who used it. Use your own definition.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 21, 2008, 07:37:28 PM
 :laugh:

OK. Haddy wins. Tell him to leave Iraq. Now! :P

he does what i say? i'll tell him to post some pics of his butt first. then we will see about that iraq. :P
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 21, 2008, 10:52:09 PM
Er, read my post again.
Hit is such a subjective word - try a more precise question.

 :laugh:

You're the one who used it. Use your own definition.
I think the question was one you asked - and I drunkenly replied to...
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: duncvis on December 22, 2008, 03:26:37 AM
aaah, I see. 'In case of LOGIC FAIL, blame alcohol'.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 22, 2008, 04:05:32 AM
 :headbang2:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 22, 2008, 06:06:23 AM
aaah, I see. 'In case of LOGIC FAIL, blame alcohol'.

:laugh:

no change there, then.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Pyraxis on December 22, 2008, 07:28:03 AM
I think the question was one you asked - and I drunkenly replied to...

Grow up.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 22, 2008, 08:16:09 AM
aaah, I see. 'In case of LOGIC FAIL, blame alcohol'.

I blame tramadol.  8)
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: The_Chosen_One on December 22, 2008, 09:14:57 AM
Have you ever actually hit anybody on here?
I hope not - not that I really need to. Not a week goes by without someone attempting to chat me up whilst at uni...
:orly: dream on, dreamer.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 22, 2008, 03:45:03 PM
Er, read my post again.
Hit is such a subjective word - try a more precise question.

 :laugh:

You're the one who used it. Use your own definition.
I think the question was one you asked - and I drunkenly replied to...

Are you sure someone didn't hijack your account?
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 22, 2008, 04:06:59 PM
I think the question was one you asked - and I drunkenly replied to...

Grow up.


:indeed:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 22, 2008, 04:08:31 PM
I think the question was one you asked - and I drunkenly replied to...

Grow up.


:indeed:

We're just jealous, you know. :P
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 22, 2008, 04:13:07 PM
I think the question was one you asked - and I drunkenly replied to...

Grow up.


:indeed:

We're just jealous, you know. :P

oh, as fuck.  i'm desperate to be a hormonal 19 year old student again, me.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 22, 2008, 04:35:23 PM
I think the question was one you asked - and I drunkenly replied to...

Grow up.


:indeed:

We're just jealous, you know. :P

oh, as fuck.  i'm desperate to be a hormonal 19 year old student again, me.

Obviously. :laugh:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 22, 2008, 04:36:12 PM
He's honest and has good ideas, unlike you two.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 22, 2008, 04:39:13 PM
He's cute as fuck, and agrees with me, unlike you two.

fixed.

Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: odeon on December 22, 2008, 04:44:49 PM
He's cute as fuck, and agrees with me, but I'm really too shy to admit it.

fixed.



Fixed squared
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 22, 2008, 04:45:39 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: El on December 23, 2008, 06:29:08 AM
i'm desperate to be a hormonal 19 year old student again, me.
I thought you were a hormonal 19 year old student.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: TheoK on December 23, 2008, 06:47:04 AM
Ditto.  :green:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 23, 2008, 10:41:29 AM
He's cute as fuck, and agrees with me, unlike you two.

fixed.


This method of proof is good enough for me:
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Proof#Proof_by_Coolness_.28ad_coolidum.29
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: SovaNu on December 23, 2008, 11:40:25 PM
He's cute as fuck, and agrees with me, unlike you two.

fixed.



 :indeed:
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: Lucifer on December 24, 2008, 01:02:07 PM
i'm desperate to be a hormonal 19 year old student again, me.
I thought you were a hormonal 19 year old student.

only on tuesdays.
Title: Re: antipsychotics
Post by: renaeden on June 20, 2016, 05:06:26 AM
I have taken Seroquel, it made me feel weird and sleepy. I took Risperdal in hospital and I twitched so badly that the doctors stopped giving it to me. I was also put on haloperidol when I first went in because I was a bit psychotic or something and that stuff knocked me out and I liked it because of that but it would not be good to take regularly I think because it is so strong.

Every time I go to the doctor they suggest I take antipsychotics but I won't. I want to stay away from them.
I didn't know what I was talking about, really.

Now I am on a lowish dose of haloperidol. And when I took Seroquel XR I gained 30 kgs. Never ever take that again.