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Start here => What's your crime? Basic Discussion => Topic started by: Yuri Bezmenov on July 05, 2015, 11:02:50 AM
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I don't get all of this backlash against the Stars & Bars. :dunno:
It was the battle standard of the Army of Northern Virginia, NOT the flag that flew on the capital building in Richmond.
Just how is it a symbol of oppression?? :dunno:
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Political bullshit
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Just how is it a symbol of oppression?? :dunno:
I dunno... maybe the fact that it was flown by the fucking Confederates? The guys who wanted to keep slavery!? :facepalm2:
I didn't realize slavery wasn't oppression. My mistake. :dunno:
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Just how is it a symbol of oppression?? :dunno:
I dunno... maybe the fact that it was flown by the fucking Confederates? The guys who wanted to keep slavery!? :facepalm2:
I didn't realize slavery wasn't oppression. My mistake. :dunno:
That's not true. That's the "official" story we've been spoon fed too goddamn lazy to elaborate maybe Rage can if he gets his hairy ass back.
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Just how is it a symbol of oppression?? :dunno:
I dunno... maybe the fact that it was flown by the fucking Confederates? The guys who wanted to keep slavery!? :facepalm2:
I didn't realize slavery wasn't oppression. My mistake. :dunno:
That's not true. That's the "official" story we've been spoon fed too goddamn lazy to elaborate maybe Rage can if he gets his hairy ass back.
No it isn't. Idiot.
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Just how is it a symbol of oppression?? :dunno:
I dunno... maybe the fact that it was flown by the fucking Confederates? The guys who wanted to keep slavery!? :facepalm2:
I didn't realize slavery wasn't oppression. My mistake. :dunno:
That's not true. That's the "official" story we've been spoon fed too goddamn lazy to elaborate maybe Rage can if he gets his hairy ass back.
No it isn't. Idiot.
Zegh is on the rag :hahaha:
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Nothing's more charming that people who're like "boo politics, boring n shit :0" and whenever they do care, their only source is a person.
On the internet.
And yet, in this, they think themselves educated and learned - after all, you've chatted w people on the internet! That's how people lern, rite? RITE!? U LERN GUDE RITE!? :O
Nono, it's cool, I get it, you're kindov an anarchist! A not-give-a-shit-er! That's cool. Very hard core of you! Might almost forget that you're a plump little autist, almost!
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Nothing's more charming that people who're like "boo politics, boring n shit :0" and whenever they do care, their only source is a person.
On the internet.
And yet, in this, they think themselves educated and learned - after all, you've chatted w people on the internet! That's how people lern, rite? RITE!? U LERN GUDE RITE!? :O
Nono, it's cool, I get it, you're kindov an anarchist! A not-give-a-shit-er! That's cool. Very hard core of you! Might almost forget that you're a plump little autist, almost!
You really are upset. My source was an actual southerner. From the south. A biracial girl who had a confederate flag in her bedrrom and knows a lot more than you do. But keep "trolling" hoping it will replace your depleted weed source.
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Nothing's more charming that people who're like "boo politics, boring n shit :0" and whenever they do care, their only source is a person.
On the internet.
And yet, in this, they think themselves educated and learned - after all, you've chatted w people on the internet! That's how people lern, rite? RITE!? U LERN GUDE RITE!? :O
Nono, it's cool, I get it, you're kindov an anarchist! A not-give-a-shit-er! That's cool. Very hard core of you! Might almost forget that you're a plump little autist, almost!
You really are upset. My source was an actual southerner. From the south. A biracial girl who had a confederate flag in her bedrrom and knows a lot more than you do. But keep "trolling" hoping it will replace your depleted weed source.
HAHA - and in science, we call that "Anecdotal evidence" and it's worth: FUCKALL.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence
It is COMMON KNOWLEDGE for anyone with more than half a brain, but you didn't know that, did you! You didn't know! :D
Man, what a little sissy... don't mind me though, I mean, what, I called you an "idiot", call me an "idiot" back, idiot :D
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Nothing's more charming that people who're like "boo politics, boring n shit :0" and whenever they do care, their only source is a person.
On the internet.
And yet, in this, they think themselves educated and learned - after all, you've chatted w people on the internet! That's how people lern, rite? RITE!? U LERN GUDE RITE!? :O
Nono, it's cool, I get it, you're kindov an anarchist! A not-give-a-shit-er! That's cool. Very hard core of you! Might almost forget that you're a plump little autist, almost!
You really are upset. My source was an actual southerner. From the south. A biracial girl who had a confederate flag in her bedrrom and knows a lot more than you do. But keep "trolling" hoping it will replace your depleted weed source.
HAHA - and in science, we call that "Anecdotal evidence" and it's worth: FUCKALL.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence
It is COMMON KNOWLEDGE for anyone with more than half a brain, but you didn't know that, did you! You didn't know! :D
Man, what a little sissy... don't mind me though, I mean, what, I called you an "idiot", call me an "idiot" back, idiot :D
Oh look someone wants attenshun. And Wikipedia is not a reliable source. :tard:
:santa:
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Nothing's more charming that people who're like "boo politics, boring n shit :0" and whenever they do care, their only source is a person.
On the internet.
And yet, in this, they think themselves educated and learned - after all, you've chatted w people on the internet! That's how people lern, rite? RITE!? U LERN GUDE RITE!? :O
Nono, it's cool, I get it, you're kindov an anarchist! A not-give-a-shit-er! That's cool. Very hard core of you! Might almost forget that you're a plump little autist, almost!
You really are upset. My source was an actual southerner. From the south. A biracial girl who had a confederate flag in her bedrrom and knows a lot more than you do. But keep "trolling" hoping it will replace your depleted weed source.
HAHA - and in science, we call that "Anecdotal evidence" and it's worth: FUCKALL.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence
It is COMMON KNOWLEDGE for anyone with more than half a brain, but you didn't know that, did you! You didn't know! :D
Man, what a little sissy... don't mind me though, I mean, what, I called you an "idiot", call me an "idiot" back, idiot :D
Oh look someone wants attenshun. And Wikipedia is not a reliable source. :tard:
:santa:
more reliable than some dumb friend of yours MY GOD YOU CANNOT BE THIS STUPID?
Is it an act :D
Seriously, try to tell me something genuinely insightful, just as a test! :D
Anyway, "Sociopolitical bullshit" would have been more appropriate.
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Nothing's more charming that people who're like "boo politics, boring n shit :0" and whenever they do care, their only source is a person.
On the internet.
And yet, in this, they think themselves educated and learned - after all, you've chatted w people on the internet! That's how people lern, rite? RITE!? U LERN GUDE RITE!? :O
Nono, it's cool, I get it, you're kindov an anarchist! A not-give-a-shit-er! That's cool. Very hard core of you! Might almost forget that you're a plump little autist, almost!
You really are upset. My source was an actual southerner. From the south. A biracial girl who had a confederate flag in her bedrrom and knows a lot more than you do. But keep "trolling" hoping it will replace your depleted weed source.
HAHA - and in science, we call that "Anecdotal evidence" and it's worth: FUCKALL.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence
It is COMMON KNOWLEDGE for anyone with more than half a brain, but you didn't know that, did you! You didn't know! :D
Man, what a little sissy... don't mind me though, I mean, what, I called you an "idiot", call me an "idiot" back, idiot :D
Oh look someone wants attenshun. And Wikipedia is not a reliable source. :tard:
:santa:
more reliable than some dumb friend of yours MY GOD YOU CANNOT BE THIS STUPID?
Is it an act :D
Seriously, try to tell me something genuinely insightful, just as a test! :D
Anyway, "Sociopolitical bullshit" would have been more appropriate.
MYTH: The Confederate Battle Flag represents racism today.
FACT: The Confederate Battle Flag today finds itself in the center of much controversy and hoopla going on in several states. The cry to take this flag down is unjustified. It is very important to keep in mind that the Confederate Battle Flag was simply just that. A battle flag. It was never even a National flag, so how could it have flown over a slave nation or represented slavery or racism? This myth is continued by lack of education and ignorance. Those that vilify the Confederate Battle Flag are very confused about history and have jumped upon a bandwagon with loose wheels.
MYTH: The Confederate Flags are an authorized symbol of Aryan, KKK and hate groups.
FACT: Quite the contrary. These despicable organizations such as the KKK and Aryans have taken a hallowed piece of history, and have plagued good Southern folks and the memories of fine Confederate Soldiers that fought under the flag with their perverse agenda. IN NO WAY does the Confederate Flag represent hate or violence. Heritage groups such as the [Sons of Confederate Veterans] battle daily the damage done to a proud nation by these hate groups. The SCV denounces all hate groups, and pridefully boast HERITAGE – NOT HATE.
Read more at http://m.snopes.com/2015/06/28/confederate-flag-history/#OfofjcSGdpER2Pfu.99
Read more at http://m.snopes.com/2015/06/28/confederate-flag-history/#OfofjcSGdpER2Pfu.99
http://m.snopes.com/2015/06/28/confederate-flag-history/
#rekt
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And since I know you're a racist Social Justice Warrior I know coming from a black person it would count more your tiny little idealogue radlib brain.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dlcHciIKfq0
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Another black man
He did his research in college btw or are you going to oppress him, shitlord?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jadmjn3ebs
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Christ... "the truth about", you DO realize that all that is allready on Wikipedia, right?
Also, I knew about the history of the confederate flag. Mindboggling, right? I knew about it for years. I know things! You don't. You think these things are new and intriguing.
"MYTH: The Confederate Flags are an authorized symbol of Aryan, KKK and hate groups."
Those who think that are simply stupid, and should read some Wikipedia.
The problem was never about people believing the flag is an OFFICIAL AUTHORIZED Flag Of Niggerhate. What you are using there, is a simple trick of deflection.
The problem is that the flag reminds people of racism, emotionally. Yes, laugh all you like, badass, anarchistic, unruly you, laugh at the emotional people - but THAT is the issue. It is an issue of emotion (social) and politics (political), in combination.
You are fully entitled to call it "bullshit", if you genuinely believe that people can go fuck themselves with their emotions, that is all legit.
But don't try this skinhead bullshit tactic like deflection, didn't Rage teach you that?
And didn't I tell you that anecdotal evidence is worth fuckall?
Since you were too ignorant to even Google-definition it (how stupid can you possibly be?) I will explain what it means:
"I met a guy who - "
"Once, a woman told me that - "
"I saw it with my own eyes!"
"Here, an interview with a Jew who agrees with Hitler - "
^ anecdotal evidence = not worth shit. That one black guy won't un-do the thousands of blacks who disagree with him.
"Yes he will! He neutralizes them with his ethnicness!"
No he doesn't...
in fact, in all of the "business of knowledge", the fewer sources, the more unreliable the source. But many people, especially idiots, are tempted to believe the opposite - that ONE person is more likely to hold "The hidden ultimate secret", while everyone are misled sheep.
Does that seem like something you agree with?
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So basically...
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So basically...
Yes. Basically. I'm not the one who's emotional about it, but half of America is. You might have noticed. Maybe not...
Do you actually understand, or are you now TOTALLY occupied by being as anarcho-badass as possible? Cus you're not fooling anybody.
When an entire population gets emotional, that is when wars begin (I bet this baffles you)
Sociopolitical = "emotional-people-political"
See? You learn something new every day.
Oh, and stay away from anecdotal evidence, that is honest advice I'm giving you.
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So basically...
Yes. Basically. I'm not the one who's emotional about it, but half of America is. You might have noticed. Maybe not...
Do you actually understand, or are you now TOTALLY occupied by being as anarcho-badass as possible? Cus you're not fooling anybody.
When an entire population gets emotional, that is when wars begin (I bet this baffles you)
Sociopolitical = "emotional-people-political"
See? You learn something new every day.
Oh, and stay away from anecdotal evidence, that is honest advice I'm giving you.
That's a stupid reason to do anything because feelings. My god. Because your feels count more than the guys in the videos I posted. Let's ban water drinking because plankton gets murdered innocent plankton! It hurts my feeeeeeliiiiiiiiiings.
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So basically...
Yes. Basically. I'm not the one who's emotional about it, but half of America is. You might have noticed. Maybe not...
Do you actually understand, or are you now TOTALLY occupied by being as anarcho-badass as possible? Cus you're not fooling anybody.
When an entire population gets emotional, that is when wars begin (I bet this baffles you)
Sociopolitical = "emotional-people-political"
See? You learn something new every day.
Oh, and stay away from anecdotal evidence, that is honest advice I'm giving you.
That's a stupid reason to do anything because feelings. My god. Because your feels count more than the guys in the videos I posted. Let's ban water drinking because plankton gets murdered innocent plankton! It hurts my feeeeeeliiiiiiiiiings.
It is stupid, sure.
I can look at a nazi flag, and not flip my lid, you're right.
Some can't, and here is the problem: If those people who can't deal with it, are willing to start a civil war over it - what do we prefer most? To laugh at emotional people, or to avoid civil war?
I know I've exaggerated the example a bit here, but look at what's happening in the news - because of feelings. Feelings matter. Feelings cause economic crashes, because the stock market is directly connected to feelings.
Feelings are important to human psyche, and political stability, it's not just about babies crying, but about maintaining a functioning society.
I would also like you to provide a comparison between people protesting about plankton, versus people protesting the confederate flag, and the cost, so far, of the anti-water protests you are refering to. What, nobody protests water because of plankton? Well now... just so happens a lot of people ARE protesting the confederate flag - making it relevant - and in the long run - costly.
I am saying - many people's feelings are hurt by it - and those people are numerous enough to destabilize your society.
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If you cannot understand those words, you probably should just quit.
So, do you at least understand it - in theory?
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Should or shouldn't makes no difference in politics. Germany shouldn't have invaded Poland, but they did.
People shouldn't impose abortion-bans on others - but they do.
And you might insist that people should not interrupt the daily flow of a city, to protest a flag, every day, slowing down local economy - should not, should not, should not - but that does not equal that there exists no problem, and exists no racial tension or racial association.
There's millions of people who know in their minds, not yours, not mine, but their - that the flag is a symbol of racism.
"They shouldn't!" well, how astute. But they do.
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While it may be seen as unfortunate by some, the connection between the rebel flag and white supremacy can't be discounted. The issue appears to be based, not completely in the flag, but the practice of the flag being flown by state organizations. That should be left to public vote if considered a public issue of public property. As for the citizenship; this is America and people can wave whatever piece of fabric around they wish.
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So basically...
Yes. Basically. I'm not the one who's emotional about it, but half of America is. You might have noticed. Maybe not...
Do you actually understand, or are you now TOTALLY occupied by being as anarcho-badass as possible? Cus you're not fooling anybody.
When an entire population gets emotional, that is when wars begin (I bet this baffles you)
Sociopolitical = "emotional-people-political"
See? You learn something new every day.
Oh, and stay away from anecdotal evidence, that is honest advice I'm giving you.
That's a stupid reason to do anything because feelings. My god. Because your feels count more than the guys in the videos I posted. Let's ban water drinking because plankton gets murdered innocent plankton! It hurts my feeeeeeliiiiiiiiiings.
It is stupid, sure.
I can look at a nazi flag, and not flip my lid, you're right.
Some can't, and here is the problem: If those people who can't deal with it, are willing to start a civil war over it - what do we prefer most? To laugh at emotional people, or to avoid civil war?
I know I've exaggerated the example a bit here, but look at what's happening in the news - because of feelings. Feelings matter. Feelings cause economic crashes, because the stock market is directly connected to feelings.
Feelings are important to human psyche, and political stability, it's not just about babies crying, but about maintaining a functioning society.
I would also like you to provide a comparison between people protesting about plankton, versus people protesting the confederate flag, and the cost, so far, of the anti-water protests you are refering to. What, nobody protests water because of plankton? Well now... just so happens a lot of people ARE protesting the confederate flag - making it relevant - and in the long run - costly.
I am saying - many people's feelings are hurt by it - and those people are numerous enough to destabilize your society.
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If you cannot understand those words, you probably should just quit.
So, do you at least understand it - in theory?
I find it comical you try to preach to my the etiquette of how to debate after insulting me and using ad homs like a pretentious pseudo intellectual stupid redneck looking hippie stoner piece of trash. Shut the fuck up. You lost your credibility. You have no room to talk. Wars are started because of money and greed. Eat a dick for more weed like the whiny bitch you are, princess. :D
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So basically...
Yes. Basically. I'm not the one who's emotional about it, but half of America is. You might have noticed. Maybe not...
Do you actually understand, or are you now TOTALLY occupied by being as anarcho-badass as possible? Cus you're not fooling anybody.
When an entire population gets emotional, that is when wars begin (I bet this baffles you)
Sociopolitical = "emotional-people-political"
See? You learn something new every day.
Oh, and stay away from anecdotal evidence, that is honest advice I'm giving you.
That's a stupid reason to do anything because feelings. My god. Because your feels count more than the guys in the videos I posted. Let's ban water drinking because plankton gets murdered innocent plankton! It hurts my feeeeeeliiiiiiiiiings.
It is stupid, sure.
I can look at a nazi flag, and not flip my lid, you're right.
Some can't, and here is the problem: If those people who can't deal with it, are willing to start a civil war over it - what do we prefer most? To laugh at emotional people, or to avoid civil war?
I know I've exaggerated the example a bit here, but look at what's happening in the news - because of feelings. Feelings matter. Feelings cause economic crashes, because the stock market is directly connected to feelings.
Feelings are important to human psyche, and political stability, it's not just about babies crying, but about maintaining a functioning society.
I would also like you to provide a comparison between people protesting about plankton, versus people protesting the confederate flag, and the cost, so far, of the anti-water protests you are refering to. What, nobody protests water because of plankton? Well now... just so happens a lot of people ARE protesting the confederate flag - making it relevant - and in the long run - costly.
I am saying - many people's feelings are hurt by it - and those people are numerous enough to destabilize your society.
^
If you cannot understand those words, you probably should just quit.
So, do you at least understand it - in theory?
I find it comical you try to preach to my the etiquette of how to debate after insulting me and using ad homs like a pretentious pseudo intellectual stupid redneck looking hippie stoner piece of trash. Shut the fuck up. You lost your credibility. You have no room to talk. Wars are started because of money and greed. Eat a dick for more weed like the whiny bitch you are, princess. :D
Of course I use ad hominems, what else are they for? You are ignorant, I'm informing you that you are. You start off being attitudey with a glimmer of racism - meaning you are - potentially - pure scum. I know from before that you have posted other racist threads before, such as how bad it is in Sweden - further proving your desire to provoke, while also showing absolutely no real understanding of the world, just cherry picking from conspiracy and racist websites.
So, yes, I try to educate you (out of the goodness of my heart) as well as chastise you for having wasted all this time trying to be a "badass", when you could have tried to learn something.
On top of that you arrive with a "step aside - I know this shit!"-attitude, which you immediately follow up by not knowing a goddamn thing.
So... yeah, plenty more ad hominems for you, all you have to do is say something retarded or racist.
Oh, and just TRY to say "but I'm not racist" ::)
You're welcome by the way, now you know what "anecdotal evidence" means, and you can say it like you say "ad hominem", and sound very clever. No problem!
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^lol
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^lol
What? You should ask a grown-up for some suggestions as to what to say back at me. Moron
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You miss this don't you?
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Sigh... :D
You know - let me inform you: You are plagiarizing Al, the old idiot.
See? I told you something you didn't know.
Another thing: Plagiarism shows a lack of creativity, and a lack of intelligence.
You didn't know that, or you would have varied it a bit
Yet another thing: Me being a weed smoker isn't some dark secret that I'm ashamed of or anything, weed is just weed, what, you think it's dangerous, or ruins families or something? It doesn't :D Ignoramus. Also, for a badass, you really should know some basic badassries like how much of a disaster weed really is...
So many facts for you!!! :D
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Oh, and "Intellectually bankrupt" was also allready said by Al.
I have to tell you about everything, don't I?
Hmmm, what else... Oh, I have autism, you COULD use that against me, but 1. It wouldn't really hurt me, cus I'm not opposed or ashamed of having autism, and 2. you have autism as well.
What else... you could find some way of making fun of me being Norwegian, but I can't think of any examples. Also, it wouldn't really offend me. Add that to the list of things you probably don't know!
My mustache is less than optimal, you could always use that
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You're just upset I saw through your "trolling" that I said you were pissed off and it's true. Your threw a hissy fit at al and made absolutely no sense btw on the thread before baiting the callout like the bitch you are. You are a fucking tard. You are still upset. I speak the truth tour opinion=/=fact suck my clit you're just butthurt. :)
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You're just upset I saw through your "trolling" that I said you were pissed off and it's true. Your threw a hissy fit at al and made absolutely no sense btw on the thread before baiting the callout like the bitch you are. You are a fucking tard. You are still upset. I speak the truth tour opinion=/=fact suck my clit you're just butthurt. :)
The whole "you are upset! because I say so" is really old, aaaand you didn't know!!!
Also, you aren't really giving me anything real here. You saw through what exactly?
Me explaining to you how social issues have real implications?
Me explaining to you that a real population of real people will have a real impact in reality regardless of your dumb little theories?
Was that what you saw through?
Well congratulations! You GOT me! There is no racism, and nobody really believes there's a connection between racism and that flag - it's all just "bullshit", as you so eloquently put it. The anarchist! The bad-girl with the "I don't need books"-two word reply!
Also, learn what opinion means
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothesis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory
You're welcome.
And if you think that articles on technical definitions will be marred by "partialism", then you truly are a complete idiot. "Then" :D
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You're just upset I saw through your "trolling" that I said you were pissed off and it's true. Your threw a hissy fit at al and made absolutely no sense btw on the thread before baiting the callout like the bitch you are. You are a fucking tard. You are still upset. I speak the truth tour opinion=/=fact suck my clit you're just butthurt. :)
The whole "you are upset! because I say so" is really old, aaaand you didn't know!!!
Also, you aren't really giving me anything real here. You saw through what exactly?
Me explaining to you how social issues have real implications?
Me explaining to you that a real population of real people will have a real impact in reality regardless of your dumb little theories?
Was that what you saw through?
Well congratulations! You GOT me! There is no racism, and nobody really believes there's a connection between racism and that flag - it's all just "bullshit", as you so eloquently put it. The anarchist! The bad-girl with the "I don't need books"-two word reply!
Also, learn what opinion means
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothesis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory
You're welcome.
And if you think that articles on technical definitions will be marred by "partialism", then you truly are a complete idiot. "Then" :D
Lol do you know the definition of racist, ignoramus? How does it apply to me? Go!
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Lol do you know the definition of racist, ignoramus? How does it apply to me? Go!
Deliberately posting inflammatory racist posts from known racist websites.
You can choose between racist - and complete ignoramus, in case you had NO idea it was a racist post from a racist website.
And in this very thread, you immediately shot down the entire flag-issue as "bullshit", when you know very well that the history of slavery in America is everything but. It was important to you, to stamp it as "bullshit" - you outted yourself. Nazi swine, as we call your type, over here :]
Come on, you are giving yourself to me here, is this some kind of trick?
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Lol do you know the definition of racist, ignoramus? How does it apply to me? Go!
Deliberately posting inflammatory racist posts from known racist websites.
You can choose between racist - and complete ignoramus, in case you had NO idea it was a racist post from a racist website.
And in this very thread, you immediately shot down the entire flag-issue as "bullshit", when you know very well that the history of slavery in America is everything but. It was important to you, to stamp it as "bullshit" - you outted yourself. Nazi swine, as we call your type, over here :]
Come on, you are giving yourself to me here, is this some kind of trick?
Bullshit. Slavery happened but not the way it has been sensationalized. The Irish were fucked over with indentured servitude but since they are white they are "privileged" so were the natives but for some reason media forgets this deliberately. The flag issue is another distraction from tpp among other things politicians are fucking us over with. You are an indoctrinated little bitch. The race issues are made to incite racial tensions between citizens to distract from who's in charge of the government.
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Lol do you know the definition of racist, ignoramus? How does it apply to me? Go!
Deliberately posting inflammatory racist posts from known racist websites.
You can choose between racist - and complete ignoramus, in case you had NO idea it was a racist post from a racist website.
And in this very thread, you immediately shot down the entire flag-issue as "bullshit", when you know very well that the history of slavery in America is everything but. It was important to you, to stamp it as "bullshit" - you outted yourself. Nazi swine, as we call your type, over here :]
Come on, you are giving yourself to me here, is this some kind of trick?
Bullshit. Slavery happened but not the way it has been sensationalized. The Irish were fucked over with indentured servitude but since they are white they are "privileged" so were the natives but for some reason media forgets this deliberately. The flag issue is another distraction from tpp among other things politicians are fucking us over with. You are an indoctrinated little bitch. The race issues are made to incite racial tensions between citizens to distract from who's in charge of the government.
:D
"Slavery happened, but hey, the Irish!" And that's what we call deflecting! I just explained that to you in the other thread, but did you actually feel like learning something new? NOPE! Have you still learned what "deflecting" and "anecdotal evidence" is? NOPE! Will you ever actually find out what they mean? NOPE!
Oh, and I'm Norwegian. We enslaved the Irish. 1000 years ago, at a time when whites enslaved whites the whole time.
Oh, and I'm Norwegian. So the whole "white-guilt" thing does not apply here - AT ALL - because we didn't enslave blacks.
And so on, you just know... so little... you burp out rehearsed crap, and you don't even realize who you're talking to. What's next, you're gonna lecture me about Obama?
Hint: I am not American, so I did not vote for or against Obama, since people residing in other countries don't participate in American elections. Aaand now you know that too! You're welcome!
Anyway, you win! :D
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Does it make you feel less shitty about yourself?
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Nono, I'm wondering if you have actually learned something
if you have, if anything that I said, has somehow entered your subconcious, then I would probably feel a teeny tiny bit better about myself, for having contributed to making the world a taaad bit less stupid.
We do what we can!
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You're a speshul wittle boi. :autism:
Don't flatter yourself princess.
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You're a speshul wittle boi. :autism:
Not bad
Don't flatter yourself princess.
Cliche.
Keep practicing!
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:headhurts:
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Classy :D
You're right. You're too cool for intelligence!
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You're too brain dead for intelligence my bad :autism:
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Zegh you don't have to keep mentioning me. I know I have taken up a bit of real estate in your psyche, but work through it.
So, the flag is racist because some people identify it with white supremacists and slavery? They get upset and offended, so they must be protected from the offence. Well, I am offended that they are offended. Now what?
I will try to bring an analogy closer to home. Football violence in Europe. IF your favourite football team has a particular flag or team colours and your team's supporter's were involved in a a huge bloody and deadly soccer riot, MAYBE some people MAY associate that team's colours or flag with really nasty and violent behaviour. It may trigger shit out of someone who was beaten shit out of, to see that flag or those team colours. People may avoid even small groups wearing their vest going off to a game.
Now, do you think it would be fair to ban the team colours or team flag or call every supporter of the team a thug? It is exactly what you are doing in the Confederate flag example.
The funny thing is, you are coming from a supposed position of tolerance. "We can't offend the people who don't like the flag. The flag upsets them. We can not hurt their feelings so we must be more tolerant. Best way to show tolerance is to equate anyone as wanting to identify with the flag as racists or stupid or intolerant"
My fucking irony meter just broke.
You are anti-intellectual and intolerant. What you lose in intellect you make up for in condescension.
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Zegh you don't have to keep mentioning me. I know I have taken up a bit of real estate in your psyche, but work through it.
So, the flag is racist because some people identify it with white supremacists and slavery? They get upset and offended, so they must be protected from the offence. Well, I am offended that they are offended. Now what?
I will try to bring an analogy closer to home. Football violence in Europe. IF your favourite football team has a particular flag or team colours and your team's supporter's were involved in a a huge bloody and deadly soccer riot, MAYBE some people MAY associate that team's colours or flag with really nasty and violent behaviour. It may trigger shit out of someone who was beaten shit out of, to see that flag or those team colours. People may avoid even small groups wearing their vest going off to a game.
Now, do you think it would be fair to ban the team colours or team flag or call every supporter of the team a thug? It is exactly what you are doing in the Confederate flag example.
The funny thing is, you are coming from a supposed position of tolerance. "We can't offend the people who don't like the flag. The flag upsets them. We can not hurt their feelings so we must be more tolerant. Best way to show tolerance is to equate anyone as wanting to identify with the flag as racists or stupid or intolerant"
My fucking irony meter just broke.
You are anti-intellectual and intolerant. What you lose in intellect you make up for in condescension.
Hey Al, could you repeat some or all of that, I didn't read.
You really should try to keep things short, you know, especially when I know you're going out of your way to try to offend me :D
You're so old, and you still haven't figured it out: It takes an effort to read. You are lame. I'm not gonna make the effort to read your lame shit... ::)
HOWEVER
keep it short, and I have no choice but to read it, cus it's all within one glance.
You on the other hand, will read everything, cus you're obsessive. "Writer" :D
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Zegh you don't have to keep mentioning me. I know I have taken up a bit of real estate in your psyche, but work through it.
So, the flag is racist because some people identify it with white supremacists and slavery? They get upset and offended, so they must be protected from the offence. Well, I am offended that they are offended. Now what?
I will try to bring an analogy closer to home. Football violence in Europe. IF your favourite football team has a particular flag or team colours and your team's supporter's were involved in a a huge bloody and deadly soccer riot, MAYBE some people MAY associate that team's colours or flag with really nasty and violent behaviour. It may trigger shit out of someone who was beaten shit out of, to see that flag or those team colours. People may avoid even small groups wearing their vest going off to a game.
Now, do you think it would be fair to ban the team colours or team flag or call every supporter of the team a thug? It is exactly what you are doing in the Confederate flag example.
The funny thing is, you are coming from a supposed position of tolerance. "We can't offend the people who don't like the flag. The flag upsets them. We can not hurt their feelings so we must be more tolerant. Best way to show tolerance is to equate anyone as wanting to identify with the flag as racists or stupid or intolerant"
My fucking irony meter just broke.
You are anti-intellectual and intolerant. What you lose in intellect you make up for in condescension.
Hey Al, could you repeat some or all of that, I didn't read.
You really should try to keep things short, you know, especially when I know you're going out of your way to try to offend me :D
You're so old, and you still haven't figured it out: It takes an effort to read. You are lame. I'm not gonna make the effort to read your lame shit... ::)
HOWEVER
keep it short, and I have no choice but to read it, cus it's all within one glance.
You on the other hand, will read everything, cus you're obsessive. "Writer" :D
Oh....you are dictating how I should post. You are the first person on I2 to ever suggest that I post too long, that they do not read what I write and that I should cater my post for them. Truly the only person ever. I naturally should entertain you because....you are....you.
How do you think this will go for you? Any idea? Its the control thing again isn't it? Is that why you smoke so much pot? To allow you the chance to let go of your increased anxiety and need for control?
I am no psychologist, it is just a guess.
Exactly what is short? Have I written too much already? Ought I risk writing more?
Zegh, you are a funny guy.
BTW Just in case you forgot what you were talking about - it wasn't me, nor drugs, it was the Confederate Flag. You were saying that you were incredibly tolerant for speaking on behalf of anyone offended, whilst intolerantly labelling those that identify strongly with the flag as racists or stupid/ignorant. Just in case you are drug-fucked. No saying you are. Just helping you out, man.
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Still too much...
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I do not know a thing about the confederate flag.
I do know symbols can get different meanings over time.
The swastika now symbols something completely different from what it was a hundred years ago.
Meanings of words change over time, meanings of symbols too. And going back to original meanings often is not possible. Especially not if a lot of negative emotions come with the new meaning. The new meaning sticks to it, whether you want it or not.
When reading history, it is imperative to not take the new meaning into account though.
Is prohibiting the answer?
Maybe sometimes it is. The new meaning may get more imprinted in the symbol though. Because it now comes with the notion of being one of "the brave few", daring to use it. Giving it an extra attraction. Does work that way with the swastika, I think.
Other times changing the meaning yet again is a way better option.
Make an insult a thing of pride and stuff like that.
No matter what the history of the confederate flag. Dylan Roof now added a clear racial murder to the symbolism of it, whether you like it or not. And it has been imprinted in it now, because the images are everywhere. How to deal with that is the question. Banning? Adding new opposite meanings? Creativity may work better than force, in cases like this. But that takes lots of guts, and will probably evoke violence too.
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I think that X associates flag with slavery/white supremacy, Y associates it with Southern States identity and Z associates it with Dukes of Hazard, then Z is not that invested but Y and X are. Who has the best claim over the Flag's identity? Who gets to impose who's values on who?
I say neither.
Let what people identify with be what they identify with, even if you personally don't.
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I think that X associates flag with slavery/white supremacy, Y associates it with Southern States identity and Z associates it with Dukes of Hazard, then Z is not that invested but Y and X are. Who has the best claim over the Flag's identity? Who gets to impose who's values on who?
I say neither.
Let what people identify with be what they identify with, even if you personally don't.
It is more complicated than that.
X, Y and Z may be there. Now X had Dylan Roof imprinting the meaning of X on the flag with the blood of nine people. And Dylan Roof had that going global. Most newspapers and TV news showed the flag in combination with telling about this murder. The tables changed. X now got world wide credit. And it will have a massive impact. And the cognitive approach, how it does not have to mean X, but also could be Y or Z does not change that.
It's like a word with five meanings, that may even be contradicting, and only one makes it to the dictionary, and to all the school books. The other four meanings slowly evaporate from the main language, though in some dialects they may linger.
If Y and Z, and maybe M and N would find ways to confuse the meaning of X to the flag, that would be a creative approach. It will infuriate X, and will cause strife. It may be more effective than taking away the flag for all of them though.
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I think that X associates flag with slavery/white supremacy, Y associates it with Southern States identity and Z associates it with Dukes of Hazard, then Z is not that invested but Y and X are. Who has the best claim over the Flag's identity? Who gets to impose who's values on who?
I say neither.
Let what people identify with be what they identify with, even if you personally don't.
It is more complicated than that.
X, Y and Z may be there. Now X had Dylan Roof imprinting the meaning of X on the flag with the blood of nine people. And Dylan Roof had that going global. Most newspapers and TV news showed the flag in combination with telling about this murder. The tables changed. X now got world wide credit. And it will have a massive impact. And the cognitive approach, how it does not have to mean X, but also could be Y or Z does not change that.
It's like a word with five meanings, that may even be contradicting, and only one makes it to the dictionary, and to all the school books. The other four meanings slowly evaporate from the main language, though in some dialects they may linger.
If Y and Z, and maybe M and N would find ways to confuse the meaning of X to the flag, that would be a creative approach. It will infuriate X, and will cause strife. It may be more effective than taking away the flag for all of them though.
Nope that is not taking it away from all of them, because X doesn't want it in the first place. You are only taking it away from Y and Z. Y is punished for nothing they did wrong and on the account of X's wishes.
We can not have whoever complains the most or whoever feels the worst getting their way, in disputes.
Its not equitable. Imagine that in courts?
Plaintiff: "I felt really bad about A"
Defendant: "But I really like A"
Judge: "Plaintiff looked the most upset over this"
I do understand what you are saying though. But I do not see one perspective/identity trump another.
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I think that X associates flag with slavery/white supremacy, Y associates it with Southern States identity and Z associates it with Dukes of Hazard, then Z is not that invested but Y and X are. Who has the best claim over the Flag's identity? Who gets to impose who's values on who?
I say neither.
Let what people identify with be what they identify with, even if you personally don't.
It is more complicated than that.
X, Y and Z may be there. Now X had Dylan Roof imprinting the meaning of X on the flag with the blood of nine people. And Dylan Roof had that going global. Most newspapers and TV news showed the flag in combination with telling about this murder. The tables changed. X now got world wide credit. And it will have a massive impact. And the cognitive approach, how it does not have to mean X, but also could be Y or Z does not change that.
It's like a word with five meanings, that may even be contradicting, and only one makes it to the dictionary, and to all the school books. The other four meanings slowly evaporate from the main language, though in some dialects they may linger.
If Y and Z, and maybe M and N would find ways to confuse the meaning of X to the flag, that would be a creative approach. It will infuriate X, and will cause strife. It may be more effective than taking away the flag for all of them though.
Nope that is not taking it away from all of them, because X doesn't want it in the first place. You are only taking it away from Y and Z. Y is punished for nothing they did wrong and on the account of X's wishes.
We can not have whoever complains the most or whoever feels the worst getting their way, in disputes.
Its not equitable. Imagine that in courts?
Plaintiff: "I felt really bad about A"
Defendant: "But I really like A"
Judge: "Plaintiff looked the most upset over this"
I do understand what you are saying though. But I do not see one perspective/identity trump another.
Make it about the swastika. X being promoted by Hitler. Y and Z and others being old folk symbols of the sun.
X got his way. When people see a swastika, they see Hitler. Historically speaking, Y, Z and others are more in the right about the meaning of the symbol, but it is not how the symbol works now.
Dylan Roof is no Hitler. But, he has publicity on his side, like Hitler had.
Not saying X has now won by default. But it takes creativity to deflate what Dylan Roof achieved.
A big factory in cookies, making confederate flag cookies and giving most of the profit to the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church or something like that, and stating that in big letters on the package, advertising on TV etc. may be effective in deflating the meaning of X.
Imagine people thinking X wanting those cookies, but the cookies are anti-X.
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I think that X associates flag with slavery/white supremacy, Y associates it with Southern States identity and Z associates it with Dukes of Hazard, then Z is not that invested but Y and X are. Who has the best claim over the Flag's identity? Who gets to impose who's values on who?
I say neither.
Let what people identify with be what they identify with, even if you personally don't.
It is more complicated than that.
X, Y and Z may be there. Now X had Dylan Roof imprinting the meaning of X on the flag with the blood of nine people. And Dylan Roof had that going global. Most newspapers and TV news showed the flag in combination with telling about this murder. The tables changed. X now got world wide credit. And it will have a massive impact. And the cognitive approach, how it does not have to mean X, but also could be Y or Z does not change that.
It's like a word with five meanings, that may even be contradicting, and only one makes it to the dictionary, and to all the school books. The other four meanings slowly evaporate from the main language, though in some dialects they may linger.
If Y and Z, and maybe M and N would find ways to confuse the meaning of X to the flag, that would be a creative approach. It will infuriate X, and will cause strife. It may be more effective than taking away the flag for all of them though.
Nope that is not taking it away from all of them, because X doesn't want it in the first place. You are only taking it away from Y and Z. Y is punished for nothing they did wrong and on the account of X's wishes.
We can not have whoever complains the most or whoever feels the worst getting their way, in disputes.
Its not equitable. Imagine that in courts?
Plaintiff: "I felt really bad about A"
Defendant: "But I really like A"
Judge: "Plaintiff looked the most upset over this"
I do understand what you are saying though. But I do not see one perspective/identity trump another.
Make it about the swastika. X being promoted by Hitler. Y and Z and others being old folk symbols of the sun.
X got his way. When people see a swastika, they see Hitler. Historically speaking, Y, Z and others are more in the right about the meaning of the symbol, but it is not how the symbol works now.
Dylan Roof is no Hitler. But, he has publicity on his side, like Hitler had.
Not saying X has now won by default. But it takes creativity to deflate what Dylan Roof achieved.
A big factory in cookies, making confederate flag cookies and giving most of the profit to the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church or something like that, and stating that in big letters on the package, advertising on TV etc. may be effective in deflating the meaning of X.
Imagine people thinking X wanting those cookies, but the cookies are anti-X.
I do not see Hitler's popularity as that of Hitler.
I do not see Dylan as a leader.
I do not see all people rallying behind the Confederate Flag to do bad things as the Nazis were doing with the Swastika
I see no reason for the Southerners who find pride and identity behind the flag to have that stripped because of what some mentally unstable kid did. Regardless of media.
Let's say that a guy holding a crucifix in one hand and an uzi in the other killed a lot of people whilst invoking God, I would not say that the crucifix needed banning. Nor that the belief in God was a bad thing for it. EVEN IF the media played it to be that way. Even IF my fellow Atheists for the most part threw a shit fit calling for its removal. The guy doing that I would consider nuts. That is where it would start and stop for me.
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I see no reason for the Southerners who find pride and identity behind the flag to have that stripped because of what some mentally unstable kid did. Regardless of media.
Let's say that a guy holding a crucifix in one hand and an uzi in the other killed a lot of people whilst invoking God, I would not say that the crucifix needed banning. Nor that the belief in God was a bad thing for it. EVEN IF the media played it to be that way. Even IF my fellow Atheists for the most part threw a shit fit calling for its removal. The guy doing that I would consider nuts. That is where it would start and stop for me.
Lots of people think sexual child abuse, when they see a man with a crucifix and a robe. Most priests did/do not molest children.
I'm not saying the swastika is a bad thing in it self. I am not saying the confederate flag is a bad thing in it self (I do know nothing about it's history) but the meaning of both got tainted.
Banning the confederate flag as a result will probably work counter-productive. But if people want it to be a positive thing for them, and have it recognised as such, they will have to work on it. Because it has been tainted, and people will look at it that way. If the symbol is positive for them, than somebody tainted what they stand for and take pride in. And did a thorough job at that. Whether they want it or not, if they want to keep their symbol, they will have to reclaim it. Like a house owner will have to restore the house after a burglary has taken place. And it will never be totally the same.
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I see no reason for the Southerners who find pride and identity behind the flag to have that stripped because of what some mentally unstable kid did. Regardless of media.
Let's say that a guy holding a crucifix in one hand and an uzi in the other killed a lot of people whilst invoking God, I would not say that the crucifix needed banning. Nor that the belief in God was a bad thing for it. EVEN IF the media played it to be that way. Even IF my fellow Atheists for the most part threw a shit fit calling for its removal. The guy doing that I would consider nuts. That is where it would start and stop for me.
Lots of people think sexual child abuse, when they see a man with a crucifix and a robe. Most priests did/do not molest children.
I'm not saying the swastika is a bad thing in it self. I am not saying the confederate flag is a bad thing in it self (I do know nothing about it's history) but the meaning of both got tainted.
Banning the confederate flag as a result will probably work counter-productive. But if people want it to be a positive thing for them, and have it recognised as such, they will have to work on it. Because it has been tainted, and people will look at it that way. If the symbol is positive for them, than somebody tainted what they stand for and take pride in. And did a thorough job at that. Whether they want it or not, if they want to keep their symbol, they will have to reclaim it. Like a house owner will have to restore the house after a burglary has taken place. And it will never be totally the same.
I do not see that Dylan taints a flag. Dylan does not represent the flag and I think if people think he does, that it stupid. Dylan was responsible for Dylan.
That is my opinion
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Scrap-Happy must be so pleased with himself right now :autism:
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The whole flag thing is a distraction in the Zionist media.
http://www.truetorahjews.org/our_mission
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Scrap-Happy must be so pleased with himself right now :autism:
It has provoked debate, so it's done its job :2thumbsup:
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Oh, and I'm Norwegian. We enslaved the Irish. 1000 years ago, at a time when whites enslaved whites the whole time.
You white, privileged, Irish-hating, slave owning bastard :thumbdn:
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Zegh you don't have to keep mentioning me. I know I have taken up a bit of real estate in your psyche, but work through it.
So, the flag is racist because some people identify it with white supremacists and slavery? They get upset and offended, so they must be protected from the offence. Well, I am offended that they are offended. Now what?
I will try to bring an analogy closer to home. Football violence in Europe. IF your favourite football team has a particular flag or team colours and your team's supporter's were involved in a a huge bloody and deadly soccer riot, MAYBE some people MAY associate that team's colours or flag with really nasty and violent behaviour. It may trigger shit out of someone who was beaten shit out of, to see that flag or those team colours. People may avoid even small groups wearing their vest going off to a game.
Now, do you think it would be fair to ban the team colours or team flag or call every supporter of the team a thug? It is exactly what you are doing in the Confederate flag example.
The funny thing is, you are coming from a supposed position of tolerance. "We can't offend the people who don't like the flag. The flag upsets them. We can not hurt their feelings so we must be more tolerant. Best way to show tolerance is to equate anyone as wanting to identify with the flag as racists or stupid or intolerant"
My fucking irony meter just broke.
You are anti-intellectual and intolerant. What you lose in intellect you make up for in condescension.
Zegh is a bigot.
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Just how is it a symbol of oppression?? :dunno:
I dunno... maybe the fact that it was flown by the fucking Confederates?
No, it was flown by the Army of Northern Virginia. An entirely different flag flew over the capital in Richmond Virginia and all other official Confederate buildings.
Jesus fuck, take a history lesson, will you??
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:rebel: :rebel: :rebel: :zoinks:
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:rebel: :rebel: :rebel: :zoinks:
Are these new emotes or were they already there?
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:rebel: :rebel: :rebel: :zoinks:
Are these new emotes or were they already there?
I added them a year or two ago and thought of them when I read the thread today
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Zegh is gonna get triggered.
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Zegh is gonna get triggered.
Shows what you know, ignoramus. I've always liked Parts.
Besides, I posess an understanding of nuance and subtlety, which is a trait of intelligence. You wouldn't understand.
You really suck at this, you know ::)
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Zegh is gonna get triggered.
Shows what you know, ignoramus. I've always liked Parts.
Besides, I posess an understanding of nuance and subtlety, which is a trait of intelligence. You wouldn't understand.
You really suck at this, you know ::)
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Zegh is gonna get triggered.
Shows what you know, ignoramus. I've always liked Parts.
Besides, I posess an understanding of nuance and subtlety, which is a trait of intelligence. You wouldn't understand.
You really suck at this, you know ::)
You are attacking Buttplug. Doesn't that make you misogynist by your own definitions?
Or is she your equal and gender not a factor?
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Zegh is gonna get triggered.
Shows what you know, ignoramus. I've always liked Parts.
Besides, I posess an understanding of nuance and subtlety, which is a trait of intelligence. You wouldn't understand.
You really suck at this, you know ::)
You are attacking Buttplug. Doesn't that make you misogynist by your own definitions?
Or is she your equal and gender not a factor?
She's an asshole.
I would say "nice try", but I'm not really sure what you are trying to do. Do you drink?
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Zegh is gonna get triggered.
Shows what you know, ignoramus. I've always liked Parts.
Besides, I posess an understanding of nuance and subtlety, which is a trait of intelligence. You wouldn't understand.
You really suck at this, you know ::)
You are attacking Buttplug. Doesn't that make you misogynist by your own definitions?
Or is she your equal and gender not a factor?
She's an asshole.
I would say "nice try", but I'm not really sure what you are trying to do. Do you drink?
:hahaha: says the asshole. Because people who don't agree with you are "stupid" and "assholes" lmao you are such a child.
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Yes, nazis, racists, mysogynists, they can all go fuck themselves, deep - deeeep up the ass. That includes you, with your treasonous attitude.
You think there is some rule dictating all opinions should be respected?
Oh, yes, you do think there is one. There isn't. Yet another thing you didn't know.
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Zegh is gonna get triggered.
Shows what you know, ignoramus. I've always liked Parts.
Besides, I posess an understanding of nuance and subtlety, which is a trait of intelligence. You wouldn't understand.
You really suck at this, you know ::)
You are attacking Buttplug. Doesn't that make you misogynist by your own definitions?
Or is she your equal and gender not a factor?
She's an asshole.
I would say "nice try", but I'm not really sure what you are trying to do. Do you drink?
Simply this.
I personally don't consider her an arseshole but you SAY you do.
Either you are attacking her BECAUSE she is a woman or attacking her AND she is a woman
Either she ought to be protected from arguing or she is too weak to handle the rough and tumble here BECAUSE she is a woman
Either you are a misogynist or you aren't.
You said of me
I have guessed that your idiotic mysogynistic obsessions come from your aspie inability to even keep a wife
I've already addressed my ex-wife BUT, in view of your quote please explain the misogynist remark.
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Wow lol @ "treasonous attitude" lmao
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Yes, nazis, racists, mysogynists, they can all go fuck themselves, deep - deeeep up the ass. That includes you, with your treasonous attitude.
You think there is some rule dictating all opinions should be respected?
Oh, yes, you do think there is one. There isn't. Yet another thing you didn't know.
How is she treasonous?
Doesn't their First Amendment actually encourage free speech (free thought). By that logic, isn't she actually being a "Good American" in promoting her freedom to identify with the Confederate flag?
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I don't identify with it. I just think the brouhaha is bullshit to coverup more important issues. Zegh be reading between the lines like an over emotional 13 year old girl.
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Al, your argument is fallacious.
Your mysogynistic attitude has a cause. I identified that cause.
I do not have a mysogynistic attitude, I am a self declared feminist. It probably doesn't mean what you think it means, but by all means, feel free to explain to me how much I now hate men, how I want to destroy men, and so on and so forth.
You are a mysogynist. I am not. I don't understand how your little rethorical trick is going to change that. You are well known for your attitude, with the gamer-gate babble and stuff. And little bitch traitors like Buttplug hi-fiving you, because she hopes she will finally, finally get laid some day, if she just keeps it up.
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Again, you can have all the opinions you like. But some opinions make you a traitor.
If you are black, and you opine that all blacks should be killed, fine - you're free to have your opinion, but your opinion makes you a traitor.
How come I have to keep explaining these things to you idiots?
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I don't identify with it. I just think the brouhaha is bullshit to coverup more important issues. Zegh be reading between the lines like an over emotional 13 year old girl.
Even better you support your fellow American's right to Free ideas and free speech. Congrats
Either this speech is traitorous or encourage by the First Amendment. Can't be both
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No such thing as "Right to Free ideas"
Idiot. Why do you persist in your dumbness? Why!?
"what!? how can u say there are no free ideas :O"
I'm just saying there's nothing written like that, but you gave it a capital F as if you knew what you were talking about. You do that a lot, don't you. Makes you seem authoritative, when you aren't.
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I don't identify with it. I just think the brouhaha is bullshit to coverup more important issues. Zegh be reading between the lines like an over emotional 13 year old girl.
Even better you support your fellow American's right to Free ideas and free speech. Congrats
Either this speech is traitorous or encourage by the First Amendment. Can't be both
Zegh is a psychotic SJW idealogue who will never admit he's wrong dat cog dis. It causes brain damage. Years ago I blocked a guy on messenger for posting a confederate flagons his avi, made me uncomfortable. Didn't realize he might not be racist but it made me uncomfortable. Years later came across a YouTube video of an autistic aspie biracial girl describing the different meanings of the confederate flag and felt kind of bad for judging him.
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No such thing as "Right to Free ideas"
Idiot. Why do you persist in your dumbness? Why!?
"what!? how can u say there are no free ideas :O"
I'm just saying there's nothing written like that, but you gave it a capital F as if you knew what you were talking about. You do that a lot, don't you. Makes you seem authoritative, when you aren't.
Cog dis cog dis cog dis
Inb4 he spells it out fully to sound smart
Cognitive dissonance :autism:
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I don't identify with it. I just think the brouhaha is bullshit to coverup more important issues. Zegh be reading between the lines like an over emotional 13 year old girl.
Even better you support your fellow American's right to Free ideas and free speech. Congrats
Either this speech is traitorous or encourage by the First Amendment. Can't be both
Zegh is a psychotic SJW idealogue who will never admit he's wrong dat cog dis. It causes brain damage. Years ago I blocked a guy on messenger for posting a confederate flagons his avi, made me uncomfortable. Didn't realize he might not be racist but it made me uncomfortable. Years later came across a YouTube video of an autistic aspie biracial girl describing the different meanings of the confederate flag and felt kind of bad for judging him.
While typing that down, you actually, really thought "gold! this is gold! I'll mention some guy, and some guy, and some chick, IN YOUR FACE!"
Remember what I called that?
So, your conclusion is: That guy might or might not have been racist. And the black chick was fine with the flag, negating all the blacks who are not fine with it.
Right? YOU NEGATE ALL THE BLACKS WHO ARE NOT FINE WITH IT - in favor of a FEW who are fine with it. Those few are fine with it, that makes you happy. Why? Why are you leaning towards that? Coinciding with your failure to see through a blatantly inflammatory race-bait post from a Swedish nazi-site, compelling you to pick it up, compelling you to share it, because the bottom line of the article was: Multiculturalism leads to rape.
You are a racist, and you tried to spread racist propaganda here. Which you are free to do, but don't be surprised when people think you are a racist as a result.
"Arise
Sweden, this is your white brother talking." <---you read this, and you shared this with the forum. White brother. As opposed to not white.
That is racism.
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Al, your argument is fallacious.
Your mysogynistic attitude has a cause. I identified that cause.
I do not have a mysogynistic attitude, I am a self declared feminist. It probably doesn't mean what you think it means, but by all means, feel free to explain to me how much I now hate men, how I want to destroy men, and so on and so forth.
You are a mysogynist. I am not. I don't understand how your little rethorical trick is going to change that. You are well known for your attitude, with the gamer-gate babble and stuff. And little bitch traitors like Buttplug hi-fiving you, because she hopes she will finally, finally get laid some day, if she just keeps it up.
I do not have a misogynistic attitude and you made a false connection to a false premise.
You self-declaring as a feminist means nothing. Nothing at all. I am a self-declared Humanist. Both are what we perceive ourselves as.
Either being divorced to a woman makes you hate the other person's entire gender or it doesn't.
Either arguing from time to time with women makes you misogynist or it doesn't
If that is what you are arguing about "my attitude" then you have to explain the divorce reasoning to every one here, especially those of that that are divorced AND you have to explain your own behaviour with Buttplug.
As to the Gamergate drama, you make no points for yourself there. In your own words "It probably doesn't mean what you think it means, but by all means"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipcWm4B3EU4
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I don't identify with it. I just think the brouhaha is bullshit to coverup more important issues. Zegh be reading between the lines like an over emotional 13 year old girl.
Even better you support your fellow American's right to Free ideas and free speech. Congrats
Either this speech is traitorous or encourage by the First Amendment. Can't be both
Zegh is a psychotic SJW idealogue who will never admit he's wrong dat cog dis. It causes brain damage. Years ago I blocked a guy on messenger for posting a confederate flagons his avi, made me uncomfortable. Didn't realize he might not be racist but it made me uncomfortable. Years later came across a YouTube video of an autistic aspie biracial girl describing the different meanings of the confederate flag and felt kind of bad for judging him.
While typing that down, you actually, really thought "gold! this is gold! I'll mention some guy, and some guy, and some chick, IN YOUR FACE!"
Remember what I called that?
So, your conclusion is: That guy might or might not have been racist. And the black chick was fine with the flag, negating all the blacks who are not fine with it.
Right? YOU NEGATE ALL THE BLACKS WHO ARE NOT FINE WITH IT - in favor of a FEW who are fine with it. Those few are fine with it, that makes you happy. Why? Why are you leaning towards that? Coinciding with your failure to see through a blatantly inflammatory race-bait post from a Swedish nazi-site, compelling you to pick it up, compelling you to share it, because the bottom line of the article was: Multiculturalism leads to rape.
You are a racist, and you tried to spread racist propaganda here. Which you are free to do, but don't be surprised when people think you are a racist as a result.
"Arise
Sweden, this is your white brother talking." <---you read this, and you shared this with the forum. White brother. As opposed to not white.
That is racism.
Of course in your biased mind you missed the point I was trying to make. Forced multiculturalism, like forced segregation is wrong. :autism: But keep trying to be "right"
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Sieg Heil Buttplug
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Sieg Heil Buttplug
Lmao he mad.
:zoinks:
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No such thing as "Right to Free ideas"
Idiot. Why do you persist in your dumbness? Why!?
"what!? how can u say there are no free ideas :O"
I'm just saying there's nothing written like that, but you gave it a capital F as if you knew what you were talking about. You do that a lot, don't you. Makes you seem authoritative, when you aren't.
There is a right to free speech and free speech is protected under American constitution. Free speech comes from Free expression or free ideas. What I mean by this is that if you have free speech laws then you lift the lid on where this speech comes from. People are allowed to think outside of the box and be liberal (apparently a completely different word to what YOU associate liberal ideas with) and with what they are voicing.
If you are in a country without such freedom, you are not allowed to express any of these ideas or thoughts. You need to deny you have them at every instance.
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Zegh is a fascist control freak.
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Sieg Heil Buttplug
Either he thinks you are a Nazi for not conforming to his perspective or he thinks you are German.
His Feminism and Liberalism seems very inclusive, pro-women and non-bigoted.
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Sieg Heil Buttplug
Lmao he mad.
:zoinks:
I know you think that is a very effective "tactic", but you learned it here. I learned it 10 years before you did. Why don't you realize this, on your own?
And, think about it logically... you are fat, and you are resentful, and you actually go out of your way to lie about your body being "hour-glass-shaped", your face gives you away, unless you have some bloated-face-disease. Why would that make me angry?
In order for that to work, you have to do your own brain-gymnastics. But I don't think you are doing ANY kind of gymnastics. Oh, and "roflmao!" ::)
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Sieg Heil Buttplug
Either he thinks you are a Nazi for not conforming to his perspective or he thinks you are German.
His Feminism and Liberalism seems very inclusive, pro-women and non-bigoted.
Hi, My Name is Ross and I have Aspergers! That Word is German! HA! I knewed that it was German! You Can't fool ME!
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Sieg Heil Buttplug
Lmao he mad.
:zoinks:
I know you think that is a very effective "tactic", but you learned it here. I learned it 10 years before you did. Why don't you realize this, on your own?
And, think about it logically... you are fat, and you are resentful, and you actually go out of your way to lie about your body being "hour-glass-shaped", your face gives you away, unless you have some bloated-face-disease. Why would that make me angry?
In order for that to work, you have to do your own brain-gymnastics. But I don't think you are doing ANY kind of gymnastics. Oh, and "roflmao!" ::)
SHORT-TERM EFFECTS
Sensory distortion
Panic
Anxiety
Poor coordination of movement
Lowered reaction time
After an initial “up,” the user feels sleepy or depressed
Increased heartbeat (and risk of heart attack)
LONG-TERM EFFECTS OF MARIJUANA
Reduced resistance to common illnesses (colds, bronchitis, etc.)
Suppression of the immune system
Growth disorders
Increase of abnormally structured cells in the body
Reduction of male sex hormones
Rapid destruction of lung fibers and lesions (injuries) to the brain could be permanent
Reduced sexual capacity
Study difficulties: reduced ability to learn and retain information
Apathy, drowsiness, lack of motivation
Personality and mood changes
Inability to understand things clearly
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Is this it?
Is this all you got?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_and_memory
But no, wikipedia is on my side of things D: it is biased!!!
Al, you are way wayyyy too old for this, especially when it comes to new and scary things like druuugs
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Sieg Heil Buttplug
Lmao he mad.
:zoinks:
I know you think that is a very effective "tactic", but you learned it here. I learned it 10 years before you did. Why don't you realize this, on your own?
And, think about it logically... you are fat, and you are resentful, and you actually go out of your way to lie about your body being "hour-glass-shaped", your face gives you away, unless you have some bloated-face-disease. Why would that make me angry?
In order for that to work, you have to do your own brain-gymnastics. But I don't think you are doing ANY kind of gymnastics. Oh, and "roflmao!" ::)
Lol I'm not lying. Rage can tell you that he's seen me naked. But that's beside the point. You are mad because you have no control. You like control don't you? You lack it offline so you try to get it on here. How's that working out?
You also seem to be projecting your bitterness and mental gymnastics onto me. Interesting.
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Sieg Heil Buttplug
Lmao he mad.
:zoinks:
I know you think that is a very effective "tactic", but you learned it here. I learned it 10 years before you did. Why don't you realize this, on your own?
And, think about it logically... you are fat, and you are resentful, and you actually go out of your way to lie about your body being "hour-glass-shaped", your face gives you away, unless you have some bloated-face-disease. Why would that make me angry?
In order for that to work, you have to do your own brain-gymnastics. But I don't think you are doing ANY kind of gymnastics. Oh, and "roflmao!" ::)
Lol I'm not lying. Rage can tell you that he's seen me naked. But that's beside the point. You are mad because you have no control. You like control don't you? You lack it offline so you try to get it on here. How's that working out?
You also seem to be projecting your bitterness and mental gymnastics onto me. Interesting.
For the last time, try to come up with something original... you've been stealing "jabs" from al and ME... ME!!! This whole time, as if I wouldn't remember what I just wrote myself, you don't even "turn it around" but you try to re-package it into something of your own.
Have you ever had an original thought? Do you know how? I'm not crying at my fatness, and I'm not some loser trying to organize gamer-gaters on the internet for some "bigger cause - of video games". I do however resent mysogynists and racists, so, yeah, we're back to: If you have opinions that are an insult to justice and human decency (something you probably think is lame, being as hardcore as you are), then you are scum.
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Is this it?
Is this all you got?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_and_memory
But no, wikipedia is on my side of things D: it is biased!!!
Al, you are way wayyyy too old for this, especially when it comes to new and scary things like druuugs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabis
The long-term effects of cannabis have been the subject of ongoing debate. Because cannabis is illegal in most countries, research presents a challenge; as such, there remains much to be concluded.[1]
Cannabis use disorder is defined in the fifth revision of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) as a condition requiring treatment.[3] A 2012 review of cannabis use and dependency in the US by Danovitch et al said that in the US, "42% of persons over age 12 have used cannabis at least once in their lifetime, 11.5% have used within the past year, and 1.8% have met diagnostic criteria for cannabis abuse or dependence within the past year. Among individuals who have ever used cannabis, conditional dependence (the proportion who go on to develop dependence) is 9%." Although no medication is known to be effective in combating dependency, combinations of psychotherapy such as cognitive behavioural therapy and motivational enhancement therapy have achieved some success.[5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_cannabis
Exposure to marijuana has biologically-based physical, mental, behavioral and social health consequences
No, Zegh, you are right. It sounds great and I am sure you have that shit under control, right?
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Sieg Heil Buttplug
Lmao he mad.
:zoinks:
I know you think that is a very effective "tactic", but you learned it here. I learned it 10 years before you did. Why don't you realize this, on your own?
And, think about it logically... you are fat, and you are resentful, and you actually go out of your way to lie about your body being "hour-glass-shaped", your face gives you away, unless you have some bloated-face-disease. Why would that make me angry?
In order for that to work, you have to do your own brain-gymnastics. But I don't think you are doing ANY kind of gymnastics. Oh, and "roflmao!" ::)
Lol I'm not lying. Rage can tell you that he's seen me naked. But that's beside the point. You are mad because you have no control. You like control don't you? You lack it offline so you try to get it on here. How's that working out?
You also seem to be projecting your bitterness and mental gymnastics onto me. Interesting.
For the last time, try to come up with something original... you've been stealing "jabs" from al and ME... ME!!! This whole time, as if I wouldn't remember what I just wrote myself, you don't even "turn it around" but you try to re-package it into something of your own.
Have you ever had an original thought? Do you know how? I'm not crying at my fatness, and I'm not some loser trying to organize gamer-gaters on the internet for some "bigger cause - of video games". I do however resent mysogynists and racists, so, yeah, we're back to: If you have opinions that are an insult to justice and human decency (something you probably think is lame, being as hardcore as you are), then you are scum.
You are those things ignoramus. Stop crying for attention. And what's all this shit over and over about badass and hardcore. Baby sounds threatened.
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Congrats Al, you failed at understanding simple science, and you failed at correlating what you wanted to correlate. Your initial point was that long term memory damage would cause me to mis-understand Feminism.
Somehow, you concluded that it has "biologically-based" effects... (again, a noobish attempt at sounding authoritative. You are such a lost cause... )
Buttplug, you are a racist, and a mysogynist, and you take open pride in it. At least be up front about it. And again, for you to believe - logically - that I would actually be frightened - physically - at someone on the other side of the world, how do you get that to work together in your mind? Do you?
Or are they just clever jab-words you put together?
Because when I say things, they come from actual observation, not just rethoric.
You have posted racist threads.
You have posted mysoginy.
You have the face of an overweight person, and good luck convincing me you are the exception to that rule "nono, ask... some guy... i met once! HA!!!"
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Your opinion is irrelevant you are trash.
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Your opinion is irrelevant you are trash.
Sieg Heil!
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Sieg Heil Buttplug
Lmao he mad.
:zoinks:
I know you think that is a very effective "tactic", but you learned it here. I learned it 10 years before you did. Why don't you realize this, on your own?
And, think about it logically... you are fat, and you are resentful, and you actually go out of your way to lie about your body being "hour-glass-shaped", your face gives you away, unless you have some bloated-face-disease. Why would that make me angry?
In order for that to work, you have to do your own brain-gymnastics. But I don't think you are doing ANY kind of gymnastics. Oh, and "roflmao!" ::)
Lol I'm not lying. Rage can tell you that he's seen me naked. But that's beside the point. You are mad because you have no control. You like control don't you? You lack it offline so you try to get it on here. How's that working out?
You also seem to be projecting your bitterness and mental gymnastics onto me. Interesting.
For the last time, try to come up with something original... you've been stealing "jabs" from al and ME... ME!!! This whole time, as if I wouldn't remember what I just wrote myself, you don't even "turn it around" but you try to re-package it into something of your own.
Have you ever had an original thought? Do you know how? I'm not crying at my fatness, and I'm not some loser trying to organize gamer-gaters on the internet for some "bigger cause - of video games". I do however resent mysogynists and racists, so, yeah, we're back to: If you have opinions that are an insult to justice and human decency (something you probably think is lame, being as hardcore as you are), then you are scum.
I resent misogynists and racists and so do most people. What you need to do though, in order to be taken seriously by anyone BUT yourself is to make a case for people being the misogynists and racists, when you see them. Otherwise it looks suspiciously like YOU are the only bigot.
That is right, it looks that you are being so VERY Feminist and Liberal by imposing your censor and intolerance on anyone that does not agree with you and calling them bigots ONLY for the fact that they do not agree with you.
But I gave you a very simple task. Very easy. You claimed I was a misogynist. You claimed it as fact. I asked you to prove their allegation. Show that it is not just a rhetorical deflection or empty accusation. Best you came up with was
1. I am no longer married - 50% of all people getting married will divorced. As are many on I2. So this is going to be hard to push.
2. I have argued with women here (for various reasons) - but you are doing just that.
3 You are self-declared Feminist - I am self-declared Humanist.
4. I support Gamergate - And...?
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Thats it Al!
A little more now, and you can flip out the men's right card!
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Congrats Al, you failed at understanding simple science, and you failed at correlating what you wanted to correlate. Your initial point was that long term memory damage would cause me to mis-understand Feminism.
Somehow, you concluded that it has "biologically-based" effects... (again, a noobish attempt at sounding authoritative. You are such a lost cause... )
Buttplug, you are a racist, and a mysogynist, and you take open pride in it. At least be up front about it. And again, for you to believe - logically - that I would actually be frightened - physically - at someone on the other side of the world, how do you get that to work together in your mind? Do you?
Or are they just clever jab-words you put together?
Because when I say things, they come from actual observation, not just rethoric.
You have posted racist threads.
You have posted mysoginy.
You have the face of an overweight person, and good luck convincing me you are the exception to that rule "nono, ask... some guy... i met once! HA!!!"
"Your initial point was that long term memory damage would cause me to mis-understand Feminism."
No it wasn't. I am saying that you have been a Stoner too long and that your ability to think in general is suffering.
I am imagining you as a just a step above a crackhead. Probably not working, pretty housebound (the weekly shop as the only sunlight you see), having your only visitors being creepy landlords/boarders, your parents dropping off/picking up fresh laundry or money, and your pot dealers.
It sounds far from ideal to me BUT maybe I am wrong. I have been wrong before. Tell me which of these is incorrect.
So yes I think everything you think is through a haze of smoke and poorly achieved because I think you cognitive abilities are jeopardised.
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Your opinion is irrelevant you are trash.
Sieg Heil!
You are as an SJW are worse than a nazi because at least a nazi admits they are racist. Sjws are veiled racists who treat poc like we are inferior that we need "extra help" from your racist narcissistic white knights who consist of mostly unpopular losers with no friends who want to be liked so they act offended on behalf of poc everywhere. They punish poc with racial slurs who don't agree with their views 100% as if it were an act of heresy. Al is right about your intellectual dishonesty, you are trash.
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Thats it Al!
A little more now, and you can flip out the men's right card!
You are missing the point.
That list is YOUR list. YOU made a claim and I can not see (for the reasons I outplayed in the list) how that makes me misogynist. Make a big claim and show it. Or admit you are making empty accusations and we will simply dismiss you as a liar.
What Men's Right's Card? Explain this card to me, and to class. This should be interesting.
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Why on earth would I go around telling people I don't do my own laundry?
You don't know who I know, so, you would have heard it from me, and I do my own damn laundry... And I have all the money I'll ever need, I hit the disability jackpot. The creepy neighbor was evicted, for being creepy, so... all in all I'm good. Landlord is a family guy, he leaves me alone, because these flats are private after all.
What does this have to do with "cognitive abilities"?
Using big sciency words like a noob won't do anything for you here. Again, everything you know about me - you know from me. I let you know. Anything else, is your own imagination, or your aspiely mistaking me for someone else ::)
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Thats it Al!
A little more now, and you can flip out the men's right card!
You are missing the point.
That list is YOUR list. YOU made a claim and I can not see (for the reasons I outplayed in the list) how that makes me misogynist. Make a big claim and show it. Or admit you are making empty accusations and we will simply dismiss you as a liar.
What Men's Right's Card? Explain this card to me, and to class. This should be interesting.
Should it?
Okay, here we go -
I am going to dance to your tune
Go fuck yourself!
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Your opinion is irrelevant you are trash.
Sieg Heil!
You are as an SJW are worse than a nazi because at least a nazi admits they are racist. Sjws are veiled racists who treat poc like we are inferior that we need "extra help" from your racist narcissistic white knight who consist of mostly unpopular losers with no friends who want to be liked so they act offended on behalf of poc everywhere. They punish poc with racial slurs who don't agree with their views 100% as if it were an act of heresy. Al is right about you intellectual dishonesty, you are trash.
The cognitive dissonance is alarming.
"I am a self-declared Feminist", "I am a Liberal"
Yet he is showing his intolerance. He is showing his bigotry. He is showing his lack of openness to new perspectives. Interestingly his authoritative and exclusionary views probably place him as closer to ideologically authoritarians like the Fundamental Muslims and Hardcore Fundamental Christian Conservatives than he would like. In all cases the only difference is the ideological views on things and how they would act on such differences of opinion. All are exclusionary and not willing to accept any other perspectives.
He is doing both Feminism and Liberalism wrong.
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Your opinion is irrelevant you are trash.
Sieg Heil!
You are as an SJW are worse than a nazi because at least a nazi admits they are racist. Sjws are veiled racists who treat poc like we are inferior that we need "extra help" from your racist narcissistic white knight who consist of mostly unpopular losers with no friends who want to be liked so they act offended on behalf of poc everywhere. They punish poc with racial slurs who don't agree with their views 100% as if it were an act of heresy. Al is right about you intellectual dishonesty, you are trash.
The cognitive dissonance is alarming.
"I am a self-declared Feminist", "I am a Liberal"
Yet he is showing his intolerance. He is showing his bigotry. He is showing his lack of openness to new perspectives. Interestingly his authoritative and exclusionary views probably place him as closer to ideologically authoritarians like the Fundamental Muslims and Hardcore Fundamental Christian Conservatives than he would like. In all cases the only difference is the ideological views on things and how they would act on such differences of opinion. All are exclusionary and not willing to accept any other perspectives.
He is doing both Feminism and Liberalism wrong.
I have no intention of respecting opinions I find detestable. Now, I know this boggles your dumb little mind, but that's fine. I don't expect you to get it.
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Thats it Al!
A little more now, and you can flip out the men's right card!
You are missing the point.
That list is YOUR list. YOU made a claim and I can not see (for the reasons I outplayed in the list) how that makes me misogynist. Make a big claim and show it. Or admit you are making empty accusations and we will simply dismiss you as a liar.
What Men's Right's Card? Explain this card to me, and to class. This should be interesting.
Should it?
Okay, here we go -
I am going to dance to your tune
Go fuck yourself!
Ah, I see. You are a liar. You were never a Feminist, nor a Liberal. There was never really a question that I was a misogynist, I was and am not, and you are just throwing empty accusations around because you are a liar.
How much of this is projection?
It seems you are the bigot you accuse me and Buttplug of being. You are hiding under the guise of Liberalism and Feminism. Pretty weak, dude. Been married Zegh? Likely to get married? Have a girlfriend? Ever had a girlfriend? Get on with women? Just curious how far the rabbit hole goes with your projections
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yes al
this whole time, I had your opinions. it was all a ruse!
*hi-five!*
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:tard:
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:tard:
Sieg Heil!
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:tard:
Sieg Heil!
Zegh is really fired up.
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Your opinion is irrelevant you are trash.
Sieg Heil!
You are as an SJW are worse than a nazi because at least a nazi admits they are racist. Sjws are veiled racists who treat poc like we are inferior that we need "extra help" from your racist narcissistic white knight who consist of mostly unpopular losers with no friends who want to be liked so they act offended on behalf of poc everywhere. They punish poc with racial slurs who don't agree with their views 100% as if it were an act of heresy. Al is right about you intellectual dishonesty, you are trash.
The cognitive dissonance is alarming.
"I am a self-declared Feminist", "I am a Liberal"
Yet he is showing his intolerance. He is showing his bigotry. He is showing his lack of openness to new perspectives. Interestingly his authoritative and exclusionary views probably place him as closer to ideologically authoritarians like the Fundamental Muslims and Hardcore Fundamental Christian Conservatives than he would like. In all cases the only difference is the ideological views on things and how they would act on such differences of opinion. All are exclusionary and not willing to accept any other perspectives.
He is doing both Feminism and Liberalism wrong.
I have no intention of respecting opinions I find detestable. Now, I know this boggles your dumb little mind, but that's fine. I don't expect you to get it.
And what opinions would they be? No, its a serious question and I ask because if you come back to you are both racist and misogynists and yet can not actually indicate how we are. Then the next logical step is to question what the opinions you find detestable are.
You following me? No..?
OK, let's say that you say "I don't like the Confederate flag" - Okay sure.
"I don't like the Confederate Flag and I don't like that others like it" - Meh
"I don't like the Confederate Flag and those that like it are racist" - Well hang, on what about people that identify it simply with family and heritage of Southern communities, not with racism - "I hate everyone who defends anyone else's right to defend their position if it doesn't meet my ideological foundations, and I hate anyone who defends the idea that not EVERYONE that likes the flag and/or identifies with the flag, is a racist"
What you are promoting is detestable. It is anti-intellectual. It is intolerant. It is immoral. It is Authoritarian.
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yes al
this whole time, I had your opinions. it was all a ruse!
*hi-five!*
Ruse? I don't credit you with that kind of cunning.
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Zegh is a Nazi Seig Heil zegh :P
Inb4 you stoled dat from me bawwwwww!
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Here is what I said, that you have been protesting this entire time: Some people are emotionally riled up by the flag, because of the association it gives them, this was what I said to Buttplug.
Everything else is your own fanatical addition, it's your rethorical "trick", that you believe to be so subtle and so brainy, but you are old. You aren't as sharp as you think.
YOU think "University level Writing" sounds impressive, and you think people fall for something as retarded as that. See? We have measurable level of moronity.
I actually know how to read, and my English is better than yours.
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yes al
this whole time, I had your opinions. it was all a ruse!
*hi-five!*
Ruse? I don't credit you with that kind of cunning.
you just did, you asshat. How old are you exactly? And how much do you drink? You know, memory problems and throwing stone in glass houses.
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yes al
this whole time, I had your opinions. it was all a ruse!
*hi-five!*
Ruse? I don't credit you with that kind of cunning.
you just did, you asshat. How old are you exactly? And how much do you drink? You know, memory problems and
throwing stone in glass houses.
Just like you.
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yes al
this whole time, I had your opinions. it was all a ruse!
*hi-five!*
Ruse? I don't credit you with that kind of cunning.
you just did, you asshat. How old are you exactly? And how much do you drink? You know, memory problems and
throwing stone in glass houses.
Just like you.
dumb and predictable, oh youuuuuu
if you backtrack, you'll see that I actually offer you an example of how to re-use an accusation in a legitimate manner: By turning it around.
I make this clear by saying exactly what you bold out (and still you didn't understand it) - throwing stones in glass houses, my intention is to deliberately turn it around (not that he will be honest, because now I am being rethorical)
What you did is different, you tried to come off as if you came up with it, all on your own, like a dumb little kid, and you did it repeatedly, every chance you got.
There's the difference... and as usual, I'm giving you a learning experience.
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yes al
this whole time, I had your opinions. it was all a ruse!
*hi-five!*
Ruse? I don't credit you with that kind of cunning.
you just did, you asshat. How old are you exactly? And how much do you drink? You know, memory problems and throwing stone in glass houses.
No I really didn't. I propositioned that perhaps you are projecting YOUR own traits and deficiencies back on others. Now you said I think it was a ruse. At what point did I mention that it was a deliberate action? No, go on.
"you just did it" Interested to see where. Should be easy. How old am I? Relevance?
Again, not to rehash, but I do not credit you with cunning. I think that you are working from a position where you are saying a lot of shit and lying, and falling over yourself in your narrative, because you are a drug-fucked moron. NOT because you are cunning.
I DON'T think lying, projection, illogical conclusions, intolerance, misunderstanding of ideological positions and the like is cunning, clever, or commendable
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What narrative? The bulk of these posts are you desperately trying to get me to come along with any kind of premise you offer, because that is how you operate. And I'm not, so we're doing this thing, where you go "yes, answer my deflecting questions!" and i go "why should i?" and your brain explodes, because that's not what you're used to.
I suggest you make another Call-out, maybe we can clear up some issues there.
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I'm pretty sure the trigger-point of this, was right after you made your raaaa-aaa-aaant about "Feminism", and you were just about to make _another_ rant - a second one, as if one wasn't enough - and I told you not to "aspie-out"
I also think we both know, that unrestrained, you could tap the shit out of that keyboard, and just fill the forum with Feminism rants.
In fact, I'm not entirely clear on Feminism. Explain it plz.
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What narrative? The bulk of these posts are you desperately trying to get me to come along with any kind of premise you offer, because that is how you operate. And I'm not, so we're doing this thing, where you go "yes, answer my deflecting questions!" and i go "why should i?" and your brain explodes, because that's not what you're used to.
I suggest you make another Call-out, maybe we can clear up some issues there.
Hey I do not mind what you answer or not. "Brain exploding"? WTF? You still do not understand, I do not need you to do or not to do anything. however you respond or not is okay with me. Any input or lack of input is all good for me.
Callout? No, you had your callout. That is over now. Not doing another.
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I'm pretty sure the trigger-point of this, was right after you made your raaaa-aaa-aaant about "Feminism", and you were just about to make _another_ rant - a second one, as if one wasn't enough - and I told you not to "aspie-out"
I also think we both know, that unrestrained, you could tap the shit out of that keyboard, and just fill the forum with Feminism rants.
In fact, I'm not entirely clear on Feminism. Explain it plz.
Interesting that you should say this.
If this is the case (I am going to pretend it is) then no doubt there will be a HUGE proportion of my posts dedicated to Feminism. No, no, Zegh let's not back away from these assertions. More other than that I have nearly 13000 posts so sure a large proportion will mention Feminism. I mean you are spinning the Anti-Feminist obsessive misogynist image of me, so let's run some numbers. Let's see if all this time you are talking A grade shit.
I am going to do some research feel free to disprove the results, and to explain them if they paint you as having been dishonest all this time.
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yes al
this whole time, I had your opinions. it was all a ruse!
*hi-five!*
Ruse? I don't credit you with that kind of cunning.
you just did, you asshat. How old are you exactly? And how much do you drink? You know, memory problems and
throwing stone in glass houses.
Just like you.
dumb and predictable, oh youuuuuu
if you backtrack, you'll see that I actually offer you an example of how to re-use an accusation in a legitimate manner: By turning it around.
I make this clear by saying exactly what you bold out (and still you didn't understand it) - throwing stones in glass houses, my intention is to deliberately turn it around (not that he will be honest, because now I am being rethorical)
What you did is different, you tried to come off as if you came up with it, all on your own, like a dumb little kid, and you did it repeatedly, every chance you got.
There's the difference... and as usual, I'm giving you a learning experience.
Haha oh wow
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I'm pretty sure the trigger-point of this, was right after you made your raaaa-aaa-aaant about "Feminism", and you were just about to make _another_ rant - a second one, as if one wasn't enough - and I told you not to "aspie-out"
I also think we both know, that unrestrained, you could tap the shit out of that keyboard, and just fill the forum with Feminism rants.
In fact, I'm not entirely clear on Feminism. Explain it plz.
Interesting that you should say this.
If this is the case (I am going to pretend it is) then no doubt there will be a HUGE proportion of my posts dedicated to Feminism. No, no, Zegh let's not back away from these assertions. More other than that I have nearly 13000 posts so sure a large proportion will mention Feminism. I mean you are spinning the Anti-Feminist obsessive misogynist image of me, so let's run some numbers. Let's see if all this time you are talking A grade shit.
I am going to do some research feel free to disprove the results, and to explain them if they paint you as having been dishonest all this time.
I mentioned Feminism in 79 posts (including this one). I have 12915 posts.
Straight Math 0.6116% of my posts mention this ideology that I have "misogynistic obsession" apparently. Not even 1%.
So why are you being purposely dishonest?
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zegh wants to teach something when he himself has much to learn :hahaha: I'll call this term "zeghing" :autism:
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zegh wants to teach something when he himself has much to learn :hahaha: I'll call this term "zeghing" :autism:
What else does he have? Dinosaur drawings and a bag of weed?
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zegh wants to teach something when he himself has much to learn :hahaha: I'll call this term "zeghing" :autism:
What else does he have? Dinosaur drawings and a bag of weed?
[zeghing intensifies]
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Is anyone offended by this flag?
Can anyone identify it without Google?
(http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-csa13.gif)
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Is anyone offended by this flag?
Can anyone identify it without Google?
(http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-csa13.gif)
It was one of the incarnations of the confederate flag if I'm not mistaken.
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Is anyone offended by this flag?
Can anyone identify it without Google?
(http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-csa13.gif)
I googled it a few days ago. Predecessor of the confederate flag. Does this count as knowing about it without using Google. :P
Not the first, there are already 13 stars in it.
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(http://img.memecdn.com/if-you-are-a-gay-nazi-comunist-redneck-her-is-your-flag_o_5187445.jpg)
:zoinks:
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(http://img.memecdn.com/if-you-are-a-gay-nazi-comunist-redneck-her-is-your-flag_o_5187445.jpg)
:zoinks:
(http://i.imgur.com/2DWXfGR.jpg)
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Is prohibiting the answer?
It's not a good answer here. People can wave a Nazi flag if they wish too, or a rainbow Nazi such as Parts preference. :laugh: Banning flags is silly and un-American. You're correct that the historical meaning of the swastika doesn't negate it's current meaning, and that's why I said the correlation between the confederate flag and white supremacy can't be discounted. It's a reality, but people waving the rebel flag around outside of some historical context probably realize there's the potential of it being interpreted that way. They're free to be interpreted, or misinterpreted, whatever the case may be; they're free to have their flag. This story prompted me to see what's the hubbub in the news before responding, and it seems a state capital building has been receiving grief for flying the confederate flag; they compromised by moving the flag to a confederate war memorial but that wasn't good enough to stop the protesting. Personally find nothing wrong with a war memorial including the flag, and it seems an appropriate setting for it's usage, though most recent reports read like it will be completely removed. It's a public property matter, not personal property.
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Free will seems to be going out of style nowadays.
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Is anyone offended by this flag?
Can anyone identify it without Google?
(http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-csa13.gif)
I'm highly offended by your flag. :zoinks:
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Is anyone offended by this flag?
Can anyone identify it without Google?
(http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-csa13.gif)
I'm highly offended by your flag. :zoinks:
Well I am offended by your offence. Does that mean I win?
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Is anyone offended by this flag?
Can anyone identify it without Google?
(http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-csa13.gif)
I'm highly offended by your flag. :zoinks:
Well I am offended by your offence. Does that mean I win?
I'm offended by your offence at Gary's offence. :autism:
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Is anyone offended by this flag?
Can anyone identify it without Google?
(http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-csa13.gif)
I'm highly offended by your flag. :zoinks:
Well I am offended by your offence. Does that mean I win?
I'm offended by your offence at Gary's offence. :autism:
I am offended at your offense at Al's offense at Gary's offense at Some_Bloke's offense I win the oppression Olympics!
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Is anyone offended by this flag?
Can anyone identify it without Google?
(http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-csa13.gif)
I'm highly offended by your flag. :zoinks:
Well I am offended by your offence. Does that mean I win?
I'm offended by your offence at Gary's offence. :autism:
I am offended at your of fence at Al's of fence at Gary's offence at Some_Bloke's offence I win the oppression Olympics!
I am offended at the fact that when explaining your offence at Al's offence at Gary's offence of the fleg you used so many fences. :autism: :tard:
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Is anyone offended by this flag?
Can anyone identify it without Google?
(http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-csa13.gif)
I'm highly offended by your flag. :zoinks:
Well I am offended by your offence. Does that mean I win?
I'm offended by your offence at Gary's offence. :autism:
I am offended at your of fence at Al's of fence at Gary's offence at Some_Bloke's offence I win the oppression Olympics!
I am offended at the fact that when explaining your offence at Al's offence at Gary's offence of the fleg you used so many fences. :autism: :tard:
My iPad is evil
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I feel like evan If I won at this point, I really lose
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Is anyone offended by this flag?
Can anyone identify it without Google?
(http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-csa13.gif)
I'm highly offended by your flag. :zoinks:
Well I am offended by your offence. Does that mean I win?
I'm offended by your offence at Gary's offence. :autism:
I am offended at your of fence at Al's of fence at Gary's offence at Some_Bloke's offence I win the oppression Olympics!
I am offended at the fact that when explaining your offence at Al's offence at Gary's offence of the fleg you used so many fences. :autism: :tard:
My iPad is evil
Yes, the rain effects that show up when your Ipad is indicating the weather are made from the tears of the Chinese kids they used to make it. :autism:
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Is anyone offended by this flag?
Can anyone identify it without Google?
(http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-csa13.gif)
I'm highly offended by your flag. :zoinks:
Well I am offended by your offence. Does that mean I win?
I'm offended by your offence at Gary's offence. :autism:
I am offended at your of fence at Al's of fence at Gary's offence at Some_Bloke's offence I win the oppression Olympics!
I am offended at the fact that when explaining your offence at Al's offence at Gary's offence of the fleg you used so many fences. :autism: :tard:
My iPad is evil
Yes, the rain effects that show up when your Ipad is indicating the weather are made from the tears of the Chinese kids they used to make it. :autism:
Ching Ching ting tong ling long
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Is anyone offended by this flag?
Can anyone identify it without Google?
(http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-csa13.gif)
I'm highly offended by your flag. :zoinks:
Well I am offended by your offence. Does that mean I win?
I'm offended by your offence at Gary's offence. :autism:
I am offended at your of fence at Al's of fence at Gary's offence at Some_Bloke's offence I win the oppression Olympics!
I am offended at the fact that when explaining your offence at Al's offence at Gary's offence of the fleg you used so many fences. :autism: :tard:
My iPad is evil
Yes, the rain effects that show up when your Ipad is indicating the weather are made from the tears of the Chinese kids they used to make it. :autism:
Ching Ching ting tong ling long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPx7CNT2aVs
I think it's around one minute in. That reminds me of a joke.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AQQr3hUepZM
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It's okay to be racist against Asian people because they're smarter than everyone else, so they just laugh at all the dumb people and their stupid jokes. :zoinks: I tried to find a picture of a Japanese flag with an Asian face drawn on it but couldn't find one. I'm very disappoint with the internet, people must not know how to be offensive anymore. >:(
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Asians descended from aliens and mated with early man true story.
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Asians descended from aliens and mated with early man true story.
(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/b0/b0fdef2a71711a3252ed727d2ae707870b9f1acb281c2474c42013dc53c9ec1b.jpg)
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It's okay to be racist against Asian people because they're smarter than everyone else, so they just laugh at all the dumb people and their stupid jokes. :zoinks: I tried to find a picture of a Japanese flag with an Asian face drawn on it but couldn't find one. I'm very disappoint with the internet, people must not know how to be offensive anymore. >:(
This is as close as I could find, WW2 propaganda posters were very good at being offensive :zoinks:
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It's okay to be racist against Asian people because they're smarter than everyone else, so they just laugh at all the dumb people and their stupid jokes. :zoinks: I tried to find a picture of a Japanese flag with an Asian face drawn on it but couldn't find one. I'm very disappoint with the internet, people must not know how to be offensive anymore. >:(
This is as close as I could find, WW2 propaganda posters were very good at being offensive :zoinks:
That's why we confiscated their businesses and locked them all in camps away from the coast :viking:
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Lolol
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Lol
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:zoinks:
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I want the time I spent reading this thread back. :M
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I want the time I spent reading this thread back. :M
Don't be like that, you secretly love the pain.
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I skipped from page 2 to page 11. :-[
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I skipped from page 2 to page 11. :-[
Well you k w that like with Soap Opera, you do not lose much if you skip a year or two
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I skipped from page 2 to page 11. :-[
In summary:
rabblerabblerabblerabblerabble
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Yep, that's how I feel about the whole ruckus!
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I want the time I spent reading this thread back. :M
Don't be like that, you secretly love the pain.
No, but reading it makes me want to cause pain.
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This
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This
Actually, this is quite well said.
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WALLINGFORD — Local police received a complaint when a shopper discovered Nazi and Confederate merchandise at a popular flea market last weekend, according to Chief William Wright.
An officer responded to the Redwood Flea Market on South Turnpike Road Sunday to investigate the report and found Nazi and Confederate memorabilia for sale. He told the complainant, who is Jewish, there was nothing police could do because the merchandise was on private property
Link (http://www.myrecordjournal.com/wallingford/wallingfordnews/7490124-129/wallingford-police-look-into-complaint-about-nazi-confederate-items-sold.html)
WTF why would you even think of calling the cops? Not displaying it on a government building I get but this is ridiculous. I don't sell at this flea market but go there to buy frequently and the place isn't overflowing with the stuff it has about the same amount I have seen most places, I have even sold some Nazi stuff and would sell Confederate stuff too if I ever got any.
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WALLINGFORD — Local police received a complaint when a shopper discovered Nazi and Confederate merchandise at a popular flea market last weekend, according to Chief William Wright.
An officer responded to the Redwood Flea Market on South Turnpike Road Sunday to investigate the report and found Nazi and Confederate memorabilia for sale. He told the complainant, who is Jewish, there was nothing police could do because the merchandise was on private property
Link (http://www.myrecordjournal.com/wallingford/wallingfordnews/7490124-129/wallingford-police-look-into-complaint-about-nazi-confederate-items-sold.html)
WTF why would you even think of calling the cops? Not displaying it on a government building I get but this is ridiculous. I don't sell at this flea market but go there to buy frequently and the place isn't overflowing with the stuff it has about the same amount I have seen most places, I have even sold some Nazi stuff and would sell Confederate stuff too if I ever got any.
WALLINGFORD — Local police received a complaint when a shopper discovered Nazi and Confederate merchandise at a popular flea market last weekend, according to Chief William Wright.
An officer responded to the Redwood Flea Market on South Turnpike Road Sunday to investigate the report and found Nazi and Confederate memorabilia for sale. He told the complainant, who is Jewish, there was nothing police could do because the merchandise was on private property
But I'm sure the snowflakes are working on taking care of that soon enough. ::)
Who cares about personal freedom? Let's make laws that force everyone to agree with our superior viewpoints. What could possibly go wrong?
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I skipped from page 2 to page 11. :-[
There's some awesome gopher awesomeness on page ten. :eyelash:
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I skipped from page 2 to page 11. :-[
There's some awesome gopher awesomeness on page ten. :eyelash:
There should have been a table of contents. :M
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I skipped from page 2 to page 11. :-[
There's some awesome gopher awesomeness on page ten. :eyelash:
There should have been a table of contents. :M
Yes. :LOL:
Personally I know someone that has one hanging in his business. I really doubt they intend to remove it anytime soon.
I think it's in how you view it...honestly it's more like the redneck symbol of rebellion here.
Things are things imo, it's all in the interpretation or what people feel they "should" stand for/or not.
I can purchase a bag of oranges...
Now if I beat some idiot with them in the parking lot they are now a weapon.
If they die...now they are a deadly weapon.
If the person I beat is of a different race, color, or sex and I hit them because of the fact...now they are a deadly weapon used in a hate crime.
...and I started out with a bag of oranges.
I never did care for oranges.
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:rofl:
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yeehaa :P
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Lol
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racialism
Racialism = racists trying really hard to appear not to be racists
Just two-three days ago I had a lengthy debate with someone who finally admitted that it all came down to skin color and appearance. Appearance! Of alllll the things he could go around worrying about - it was people's appearance =I and all under the guise of "humanism" - "I just want to help to avoid racial wars"
Well, he can start helping by not judging people by their appearance o_-
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Wikipedia the totally non credible source really now?
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Wikipedia the totally non credible source really now?
Wikipedia is fine; it's only annoying when presented as, here read this and learn something link only, rather than presenting the information in one's own words and using a Wikipedia link as a backup source. Racialism applies to people who attribute qualities of better/worse as inherent to race, or consider different races as different human sub-species.
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For years, Ive occasionally worn a Celtic Cross necklace like the one in the photo. Never thought anything of it. Ive only just been told that here in Hungary, its a symbol of white supremacy :hitler: Ive been told that I really shouldnt wear it.
Of course, I could be an arsehole, and keep wearing it anyway, because to me its a symbol of my Celtic heritage and certainly not of racist sentiment. However, it seems pointless to wear a symbol that many find divisive and offensive, just because the symbol represents something different to me.
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For years, Ive occasionally worn a Celtic Cross necklace like the one in the photo. Never thought anything of it. Ive only just been told that here in Hungary, its a symbol of white supremacy :hitler: Ive been told that I really shouldnt wear it.
Of course, I could be an arsehole, and keep wearing it anyway, because to me its a symbol of my Celtic heritage and certainly not of racist sentiment. However, it seems pointless to wear a symbol that many find divisive and offensive, just because the symbol represents something different to me.
This is both sad, unfair, and also very common.
It's the ultra-nationalists who set their claws into all the old symbolisms they can find, and "claim ownership" over them.
Some try to visibly claim them back, I've even seen an anarchist-punk type CD cover with a huge swastika on it, and obviously, this task is nearly impossible, I doubt their swastika-CD cover made much of a difference -.-
Maybe in time, some of these symbol-uses will fade, but we're probably talking centuries.
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Hi Butterflies :santa:
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For years, Ive occasionally worn a Celtic Cross necklace like the one in the photo. Never thought anything of it. Ive only just been told that here in Hungary, its a symbol of white supremacy :hitler: Ive been told that I really shouldnt wear it.
Of course, I could be an arsehole, and keep wearing it anyway, because to me its a symbol of my Celtic heritage and certainly not of racist sentiment. However, it seems pointless to wear a symbol that many find divisive and offensive, just because the symbol represents something different to me.
This is both sad, unfair, and also very common.
It's the ultra-nationalists who set their claws into all the old symbolisms they can find, and "claim ownership" over them.
Some try to visibly claim them back, I've even seen an anarchist-punk type CD cover with a huge swastika on it, and obviously, this task is nearly impossible, I doubt their swastika-CD cover made much of a difference -.-
Maybe in time, some of these symbol-uses will fade, but we're probably talking centuries.
Yes, to all of that.
@ Butterflies, are there other celtic symbols that you could wear without it being offensive?
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For years, Ive occasionally worn a Celtic Cross necklace like the one in the photo. Never thought anything of it. Ive only just been told that here in Hungary, its a symbol of white supremacy :hitler: Ive been told that I really shouldnt wear it.
Of course, I could be an arsehole, and keep wearing it anyway, because to me its a symbol of my Celtic heritage and certainly not of racist sentiment. However, it seems pointless to wear a symbol that many find divisive and offensive, just because the symbol represents something different to me.
This is both sad, unfair, and also very common.
It's the ultra-nationalists who set their claws into all the old symbolisms they can find, and "claim ownership" over them.
Some try to visibly claim them back, I've even seen an anarchist-punk type CD cover with a huge swastika on it, and obviously, this task is nearly impossible, I doubt their swastika-CD cover made much of a difference -.-
Maybe in time, some of these symbol-uses will fade, but we're probably talking centuries.
Might possibly work if a whole contrary movement decides to take a very similar symbol. Adding confusion everywhere.
But as you said, nearly impossible.
Turning symbols around works more easy when a name or symbol being used as an insult gets worn with pride by the insulted group.
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For years, Ive occasionally worn a Celtic Cross necklace like the one in the photo. Never thought anything of it. Ive only just been told that here in Hungary, its a symbol of white supremacy :hitler: Ive been told that I really shouldnt wear it.
Of course, I could be an arsehole, and keep wearing it anyway, because to me its a symbol of my Celtic heritage and certainly not of racist sentiment. However, it seems pointless to wear a symbol that many find divisive and offensive, just because the symbol represents something different to me.
Interesting. Will you not wear it to avoid offended feelings, or out of awareness in what people assume of you for wearing it?
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White supremacists in the US usually cloak themselves in a thin veneer of religious zeal. They have co-opted the cross for their own ends. As the Nazi's co-opted the swastika and flipped it around from it's far eastern origins. It's sad that a symbol of good for many people gets tarnished by the idiocy and evil of these groups. I happen to like the Celtic cross myself! 8)
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SO do I!
I just did a quick search and found these interesting uses of a swastika that have nothing to do with The Third Reich:
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At some point everything will be banned because offended feelings.
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At some point everything will be banned because offended feelings.
I find that line of thought dangerous and offensive, it should be banned :zoinks:
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I find non-alcoholic beer offensive, it should be banned.
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All this offensive talk in this thread and with no trigger warning at the top it should be banned :zoinks:
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I think the act of banning should be banned check mate!
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I find non-alcoholic beer offensive, it should be banned.
... BUT WAIT!!!
I can no longer drink alcohol. I love O'Doul's Amber. It tastes like beer (pop) and it is as close to enjoyment as I can get.
You reminded me of a guy I met in Jamaica. Met him as a waiter and when I tried to order a "non-alcoholic beer," He just laughed and said in a barely understandable Jamaican accent, "Nah, Mon. I don' think we have anything like that. Hey Mon, THIS is Jamaica, Mon!! You don' need to drink anything that is no' real, here. It is Jamaica!!"
He invited us to see his band play that night - Fucking Awesome - and we talked a bit more. I did order Jamaican beer several times that night. When the band was done playing at near dawn, I went to bed and HE went back to work at his day job.
:viking:
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I find non-alcoholic beer offensive, it should be banned.
... BUT WAIT!!!
I can no longer drink alcohol. I love O'Doul's Amber. It tastes like beer (pop) and it is as close to enjoyment as I can get.
You reminded me of a guy I met in Jamaica. Met him as a waiter and when I tried to order a "non-alcoholic beer," He just laughed and said in a barely understandable Jamaican accent, "Nah, Mon. I don' think we have anything like that. Hey Mon, THIS is Jamaica, Mon!! You don' need to drink anything that is no' real, here. It is Jamaica!!"
He invited us to see his band play that night - Fucking Awesome - and we talked a bit more. I did order Jamaican beer several times that night. When the band was done playing at near dawn, I went to bed and HE went back to work at his day job.
:viking:
We shall make an exception for O'Doul's Amber. ;)
I think I would like Jamaica. :LOL:
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We have awards and such for non whites who celebrate their heritages, yet if white people dare to do it, they are Nazis. People are so brainwashed that it's comical.
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Why is it never mentioned that there were slave states in the North?
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We have awards and such for non whites who celebrate their heritages, yet if white people dare to do it, they are Nazis. People are so brainwashed that it's comical.
You don't have any national holidays celebrating your heritage? :orly:
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Why is it never mentioned that there were slave states in the North?
It was really union states, seceded states, and western territories, but north and south sums it up well enough. There were also union states that permitted slavery but weren't part of the Confederate states which seceded, but they were boarder states quite literally caught and placed between union and confederate, though all of those but one are considered southern states; Missouri is considered midwest.
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Why is it never mentioned that there were slave states in the North?
It was really union states, seceded states, and western territories, but north and south sums it up well enough. There were also union states that permitted slavery but weren't part of the Confederate states which seceded, but they were boarder states quite literally caught and placed between union and confederate, though all of those but one are considered southern states; Missouri is considered midwest.
Here's a picture of how the US is currently divided by region.
(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/003749791/2340394505_regions_copy_xlarge.png)
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Why is it never mentioned that there were slave states in the North?
It was really union states, seceded states, and western territories, but north and south sums it up well enough. There were also union states that permitted slavery but weren't part of the Confederate states which seceded, but they were boarder states quite literally caught and placed between union and confederate, though all of those but one are considered southern states; Missouri is considered midwest.
Of the non boarder states NJ was the last holdout and they became a free state in 1804
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Why is it never mentioned that there were slave states in the North?
It was really union states, seceded states, and western territories, but north and south sums it up well enough. There were also union states that permitted slavery but weren't part of the Confederate states which seceded, but they were boarder states quite literally caught and placed between union and confederate, though all of those but one are considered southern states; Missouri is considered midwest.
Of the non boarder states NJ was the last holdout and they became a free state in 1804
That's correct, New Jersey was the last northern state to abolish slavery, and while New York is considered to have abolished slavery earlier, it was only for the older ones and the children of indentured slaves weren't actually freed until 1827. Was thinking Benjamin meant during the actual time of the civil war, what was north and south. Could have misunderstood. If he was trying to say that slavery was legal and practiced from the beginning in all thirteen original colonies of the US, then yes there's no such thing as a truly slave-free state.
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The word slave stems from the Slavs. Otto the Great captured and sold so many Slavic citizens that the word slave started to change meaning.
The original meaning did not get lost though.
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This video perfectly describes why Zeghs view on feelings is wrong
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM
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This video perfectly describes why Zeghs view on feelings is wrong
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM
Have to scroll back a while to find posts by Zegh. What post of his is this an answer to, can you quote please?
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Sunshine is my spirit-animal :thumbup:
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We have awards and such for non whites who celebrate their heritages, yet if white people dare to do it, they are Nazis. People are so brainwashed that it's comical.
You don't have any national holidays celebrating your heritage? :orly:
Only private ones orgainised by the BNP.
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Why is it never mentioned that there were slave states in the North?
It was really union states, seceded states, and western territories, but north and south sums it up well enough. There were also union states that permitted slavery but weren't part of the Confederate states which seceded, but they were boarder states quite literally caught and placed between union and confederate, though all of those but one are considered southern states; Missouri is considered midwest.
Ok
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The word slave stems from the Slavs. Otto the Great captured and sold so many Slavic citizens that the word slave started to change meaning.
The original meaning did not get lost though.
You don't see many Hollywood productions about white slaves.
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The word slave stems from the Slavs. Otto the Great captured and sold so many Slavic citizens that the word slave started to change meaning.
The original meaning did not get lost though.
You don't see many Hollywood productions about white slaves.
Otto the first did not trade cross-Atlantic. Neither did the Romans. :M
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The word slave stems from the Slavs. Otto the Great captured and sold so many Slavic citizens that the word slave started to change meaning.
The original meaning did not get lost though.
You don't see many Hollywood productions about white slaves.
Otto the first did not trade cross-Atlantic. Neither did the Romans. :M
There are of course other reasons than that.
The white slaves that have been there for millennia in Europe did mingle in with the rest of the people. And over time traces of names were gone too. So it is not visible who stems from slavery and who not.
Slavery from the seventeenth century was, in the white part of the world, race based, very visible, and it was a cross-ocean thing. The whole world was part of it. From people selling people in Africa, to sailors and merchants bringing them across the ocean, to people buying them.
Mixing over time happened too, but visual traces are not gone. Who knows how that will be after a few more centuries.
Also, it is not that long ago, and lots and lots of nations were involved. Way bigger impact on historic memory.
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This video perfectly describes why Zeghs view on feelings is wrong
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM
I said that feelings dictate how society moves.
When people feel upset, riots are more plausible than when they feel content.
Feelings are not to be ignored, if lasting stability is to be maintained.
Clearly, you failed to grasp this simple a concept, but that is really not surprising.
So, go back to being an ignorant little simpleton, and have fun with your youtube videos!
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You're just upset I saw through your "trolling" that I said you were pissed off and it's true. Your threw a hissy fit at al and made absolutely no sense btw on the thread before baiting the callout like the bitch you are. You are a fucking tard. You are still upset. I speak the truth tour opinion=/=fact suck my clit you're just butthurt. :)
The whole "you are upset! because I say so" is really old, aaaand you didn't know!!!
Also, you aren't really giving me anything real here. You saw through what exactly?
Me explaining to you how social issues have real implications?
Me explaining to you that a real population of real people will have a real impact in reality regardless of your dumb little theories?
Was that what you saw through?
Well congratulations! You GOT me! There is no racism, and nobody really believes there's a connection between racism and that flag - it's all just "bullshit", as you so eloquently put it. The anarchist! The bad-girl with the "I don't need books"-two word reply!
Also, learn what opinion means
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothesis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory
You're welcome.
And if you think that articles on technical definitions will be marred by "partialism", then you truly are a complete idiot. "Then" :D
You got butthurt I saw though your callout with Al and didn't kiss your ugly ass. You proceeded to attack my opinion with feewings like a bitch instead of actual debating because you're a cunt. You lost credibility on how to debate, you hypocrite. And true to the racist white knight you attacked my looks and ethnicity like a loser bitch. I look better than you and you know it. You are trash. Complacent to rot in a basement on disability till you die. How nice for you. :congrats:
Oh and social engineering is to play on war time. I don't give a flying fuck about citing sources like you do. All races are guilty of slavery you ignorant fuck. So why focus on one race? Thats racist. Oh right because YOU are a racist. Go smoke some weed you've been given for free. I'll be productive while you'll remain a drain. I have a degree I'm building my portfolio. What are you doing to better yourself? Aging manchild.
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This video perfectly describes why Zeghs view on feelings is wrong
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM
I said that feelings dictate how society moves.
When people feel upset, riots are more plausible than when they feel content.
Feelings are not to be ignored, if lasting stability is to be maintained.
Clearly, you failed to grasp this simple a concept, but that is really not surprising.
So, go back to being an ignorant little simpleton, and have fun with your youtube videos!
You implied the flag should be censored because feewings. :( because I said Al upset you on the callout so you must punish me with your wordy rhetoric. It had to give you back your manhood somehow. This falls under that intellectual dishonesty al was referring to.
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We have awards and such for non whites who celebrate their heritages, yet if white people dare to do it, they are Nazis. People are so brainwashed that it's comical.
You don't have any national holidays celebrating your heritage? :orly:
Only private ones orgainised by the BNP.
Oh, those Nazis. :zoinks: Seriously though, I guess that just seems weird to me because the UK has a lot of history so I figured they would have some national holidays related to that. In the US Nationalism isn't necessarily considered synonymous with racism, and we have a few national heritage based holidays. Sure some people definitely disguise racism with nationalism US, but overall I think Americans are definitely programmed from youth to be highly nationalistic so it's not really considered a negative thing here. USA!! USA!! USA!! American Fuck Yeah! :woohoo:
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Aussie, Aussie, Aussie! Oi! Oi! Oi!!.
That is our catchcry.
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:plus:
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This video perfectly describes why Zeghs view on feelings is wrong
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM
I said that feelings dictate how society moves.
When people feel upset, riots are more plausible than when they feel content.
Feelings are not to be ignored, if lasting stability is to be maintained.
Clearly, you failed to grasp this simple a concept, but that is really not surprising.
So, go back to being an ignorant little simpleton, and have fun with your youtube videos!
You implied the flag should be censored because feewings. :( because I said Al upset you on the callout so you must punish me with your wordy rhetoric. It had to give you back your manhood somehow. This falls under that intellectual dishonesty al was referring to.
I said that emotions are important, and should not go ignored.
YOU understood that "the flag should be cencored" because you're a simpleton.
Anything else?
Do I have to spell it out for your retarded self, before you comprehend "what's between the lines"?
Okay, I'll spell it out for you: I don't think things should be cencored because of crybabies broken emotions, but I also realize that sometimes medicine tastes bad.
Now, go ahead and dismiss the first part of that sentence and translate the 2nd half into whatever your idea of "crazy sjw" might be.
Amateur.
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Oh, and no.
To a bunch of stupid assumptions you may have made, or plan to make, that I won't be bothered to address point by point, and that you will believe to be true based on my silence
The answer is usually, no, not really and I never said that.
The day you dumb, spoiled brats understand that reality has to do with evidence and not who's-shouting-the-loudest is the day we will finally be getting somewhere.
(oh, and since you will inevitably try to read this as part of the "flag debate", let me once again spell it out for you: I don't think any flag should be banned, if it was up to me. Flag it all, sieg heil, I don't give a shit. I'm saying that I understand - i comprehend - the reasoning behind a ban.
I comprehend it thanks to the brain in my head. You should try using the brain, that is how you can comprehend two sides of an issue.)
(PS: I never said a word about slavery, you ignorant little shit. See? You don't even know who you're talking to, you're just doing the usual rethoric. Here's why I never said a word about slavery: I'M NOT AMERICAN. I'M NOT AMERICAN, SLAVERY AND WHITE GUILT IS AN AMERICAN ISSUE. IF YOU WEREN'T SUCH A RETARD YOU'D KNOW THAT. MY ancestors enslaved WHITE people. Yeah, let that just boil around your little brain for a moment, what, I got norse-guilt now or something? Are the Irish human just like me? NORSE GUILT!!!)
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Man, you're like those uber idiots who go "i bet you voted for obama!"
then I go "I'm not American. There's no Obama in Norway."
"Whut?"
I'm not from America
"whut?"
America, I'm not from it. I'm from ANOTHER country
"A whut?"
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Then what was your attack on me for in the first place? It was feeeeelz. Baby zegh's feels wuz hurts. No I didn't bother reading your wall of pointless text lol
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Then what was your attack on me for in the first place? It was feeeeelz. Baby zegh's feels wuz hurts. No I didn't bother reading your wall of pointless text lol
And that sums up your problem.
You simply do not understand what issues you yourself are trying to debate.
They are beyond you, and your lack of knowledge shows. Nobody's having their "feels hurt", if you really believe that, then that speaks volumes of your lack of comprehension.
If you don't actually believe it, and instead just use it as a cheap, inconsequensial accusation, then what good is it? You think you can make things become real, just by saying them? "You got butthurt!"
Is that really what you think?
I'd like to give you enough benefit of doubt to think you aren't that incredibly stupid, so - it's a tactic. It's your best. "You're butthurt, lol."
Untill you can elevate yourself above "ur butthurt", and "i dont need to read lol", then don't expect to be taken seriously in questions that require reading - AND - a basic comprehension of how words and people function.
In other words, grow up and learn to communicate like a person.
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Then what was your attack on me for in the first place? It was feeeeelz. Baby zegh's feels wuz hurts. No I didn't bother reading your wall of pointless text lol
And that sums up your problem.
You simply do not understand what issues you yourself are trying to debate.
They are beyond you, and your lack of knowledge shows. Nobody's having their "feels hurt", if you really believe that, then that speaks volumes of your lack of comprehension.
If you don't actually believe it, and instead just use it as a cheap, inconsequensial accusation, then what good is it? You think you can make things become real, just by saying them? "You got butthurt!"
Is that really what you think?
I'd like to give you enough benefit of doubt to think you aren't that incredibly stupid, so - it's a tactic. It's your best. "You're butthurt, lol."
Untill you can elevate yourself above "ur butthurt", and "i dont need to read lol", then don't expect to be taken seriously in questions that require reading - AND - a basic comprehension of how words and people function.
In other words, grow up and learn to communicate like a person.
You have the audacity to tell me to "grow up" when the first thing you said was an insult instead of asking me to elaborate, child. You are a waste of skin and are better suited donating yourself to be used as a lampshade, loser.
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You have the audacity to tell me to "grow up" when the first thing you said was an insult instead of asking me to elaborate, child. You are a waste of skin and are better suited donating yourself to be used as a lampshade, loser.
Then don't ::)
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You have the audacity to tell me to "grow up" when the first thing you said was an insult instead of asking me to elaborate, child. You are a waste of skin and are better suited donating yourself to be used as a lampshade, loser.
Then don't ::)
Practice what you preach. Hypocrite.
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:jerry:
With a little bit of..................
:trainwreck:
8)
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:MLA:
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The word slave stems from the Slavs. Otto the Great captured and sold so many Slavic citizens that the word slave started to change meaning.
The original meaning did not get lost though.
You don't see many Hollywood productions about white slaves.
Otto the first did not trade cross-Atlantic. Neither did the Romans. :M
There are of course other reasons than that.
The white slaves that have been there for millennia in Europe did mingle in with the rest of the people. And over time traces of names were gone too. So it is not visible who stems from slavery and who not.
Slavery from the seventeenth century was, in the white part of the world, race based, very visible, and it was a cross-ocean thing. The whole world was part of it. From people selling people in Africa, to sailors and merchants bringing them across the ocean, to people buying them.
Mixing over time happened too, but visual traces are not gone. Who knows how that will be after a few more centuries.
Also, it is not that long ago, and lots and lots of nations were involved. Way bigger impact on historic memory.
That's not true in the slightest. Irish slaves were white, obviously. And if you're implying that it was also just white people taking black slaves, you're missing that millions of Europeans were taken as slaves by the Arabs.
We only have it pumped into us about African slaves, not because of the impact or because of it being more recent (which is wrong anyway), but because it can show white people doing something awful to blacks and feed the race baiting agenda, and basically make sure white people stay guilty and dare not complain about immigration etc.
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We have awards and such for non whites who celebrate their heritages, yet if white people dare to do it, they are Nazis. People are so brainwashed that it's comical.
You don't have any national holidays celebrating your heritage? :orly:
Only private ones orgainised by the BNP.
Oh, those Nazis. :zoinks: Seriously though, I guess that just seems weird to me because the UK has a lot of history so I figured they would have some national holidays related to that. In the US Nationalism isn't necessarily considered synonymous with racism, and we have a few national heritage based holidays. Sure some people definitely disguise racism with nationalism US, but overall I think Americans are definitely programmed from youth to be highly nationalistic so it's not really considered a negative thing here. USA!! USA!! USA!! American Fuck Yeah! :woohoo:
Which is even weirder as it shouldn't even be their country. These things are done to simply wind up anyone who's conservative minded. All the things in the past do not matter here anymore anyway, as this country has been destroyed beyond repair. People actually cheer and do cartwheels celebrating their destruction as more Africans and Arabs pour into Europe.
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Just how is it a symbol of oppression?? :dunno:
I dunno... maybe the fact that it was flown by the fucking Confederates? The guys who wanted to keep slavery!? :facepalm2:
I didn't realize slavery wasn't oppression. My mistake. :dunno:
That's not true. That's the "official" story we've been spoon fed too goddamn lazy to elaborate maybe Rage can if he gets his hairy ass back.
No it isn't. Idiot.
This name calling was unwarranted unprovoked and childish and done based on your offended sensibilities. You could have asked me to elaborate like an actual adult but chose to name call like a child hence the picture of the baby crying I posted that seemed to fly over your head. You then went on a narcissistic tangent about America and emotions during wartime to try and "prove" how you weren't offended.
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Accidentally posted send I had more to say FYI
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And I care.. why?
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The whole flag brouhaha was a distraction, a sideshow to use social engineering to control the public keeping them ignorant from the TPP Agreement
https://ustr.gov/tpp/
But true to the self absorption you tend to show you had to showboat. Americans rights are being snatched away from them but you are Norwegian what do you know? You are too busy being narcissistic and picking on someone who has never even attacked before you started in on them. An apology is in order. That's what an adult would do...
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And I care.. why?
You cared enough to insult me, son. I obviously upset you.
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Where to begin...
1) I'm not gonna apologize for your new-found interest and noobish approach to world politics. Grow the fuck up.
2) Oh, so there are distractions, white flags and conspiracies now? Are they whenever you say they are? Also, this makes a difference how? The flag-brouhaha wasn't a distraction to take your rights away - it WAS an effort TO take your rights away. The "conspiracy" is right in front of your eyes, but you delude yourself into believing it was hidden, and you were so special to spot it.
3) You're right, I'm not gonna come running to fight for Americans, I'm more interested in Norway, you know, cus I live here. You may think that's unpatriotic of me, but you don't understand that in Spain - a patriot cares about Spain, in Peru - about Peru, and so on. America is not more important than other countries - to those countries.
4) We're not discussing the TPP so don't even try, you little straw-grasper you.
Anyway, you are excrutiatingly boring..
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The whole flag brouhaha was a distraction, a sideshow to use social engineering to control the public keeping them ignorant from the TPP Agreement
https://ustr.gov/tpp/
But true to the self absorption you tend to show you had to showboat. Americans rights are being snatched away from them but you are Norwegian what do you know? You are too busy being narcissistic and picking on someone who has never even attacked before you started in on them. An apology is in order. That's what an adult would do...
You are the one straw grasping and projecting it is sad. You do this with everyone you argue with. You love arguing online it is your comfort zone. You can't discuss anything like an adult. You must act like a petulant child. You destroyed yourself any and all future prospects for yourself and you choose to take it out on me. Might I remind you the op is about the confederate flag which is in the US also I will point out you have missed out where I was making fun of you and being sarcastic and taking my posts literally but I suppose you can blame your autism for that. :autism:
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The word slave stems from the Slavs. Otto the Great captured and sold so many Slavic citizens that the word slave started to change meaning.
The original meaning did not get lost though.
You don't see many Hollywood productions about white slaves.
Otto the first did not trade cross-Atlantic. Neither did the Romans. :M
There are of course other reasons than that.
The white slaves that have been there for millennia in Europe did mingle in with the rest of the people. And over time traces of names were gone too. So it is not visible who stems from slavery and who not.
Slavery from the seventeenth century was, in the white part of the world, race based, very visible, and it was a cross-ocean thing. The whole world was part of it. From people selling people in Africa, to sailors and merchants bringing them across the ocean, to people buying them.
Mixing over time happened too, but visual traces are not gone. Who knows how that will be after a few more centuries.
Also, it is not that long ago, and lots and lots of nations were involved. Way bigger impact on historic memory.
That's not true in the slightest. Irish slaves were white, obviously. And if you're implying that it was also just white people taking black slaves, you're missing that millions of Europeans were taken as slaves by the Arabs.
We only have it pumped into us about African slaves, not because of the impact or because of it being more recent (which is wrong anyway), but because it can show white people doing something awful to blacks and feed the race baiting agenda, and basically make sure white people stay guilty and dare not complain about immigration etc.
Hun, I claimed nowhere that only white people took/take slaves.
I'm not that optimistic about humanity to single a group out of the human race as a people so elevated that they do not take slaves.
I only tried to answer why the Hollywood films on slavery are not as diverse as the history on slavery is.
Slaves have always been taken, from way before the word slave was coined, till this very day. Slaves in all kinds of colours, taken by people of all kinds of colours.
Systematic shipping slaves by one of the earliest multinationals all over the world did not start before the 17th century by my knowledge. The WIC happened to trade in African slaves.
And family memories on slavery are fresher from people who were slave in the USA than in the families of people enslaved by Otto 1.
Also, Hollywood happens to be in the USA. Makes a difference. They do make more movies on stories connected to American history than on stories connected to non American history.
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We only have it pumped into us about African slaves, not because of the impact or because of it being more recent (which is wrong anyway), but because it can show white people doing something awful to blacks and feed the race baiting agenda, and basically make sure white people stay guilty and dare not complain about immigration etc.
Oh, I forgot to address this. There has been enough complaining about white immigrants to make your claim invalid.
And I don't know about the UK, but in the Netherlands, it is not only white people voting for Geert Wilders and complaining about immigration.
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Gotta say this: I appreciate the Confederate flag in flames or at least tatters! :flamer: :trollface:
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The word slave stems from the Slavs. Otto the Great captured and sold so many Slavic citizens that the word slave started to change meaning.
The original meaning did not get lost though.
You don't see many Hollywood productions about white slaves.
Otto the first did not trade cross-Atlantic. Neither did the Romans. :M
There are of course other reasons than that.
The white slaves that have been there for millennia in Europe did mingle in with the rest of the people. And over time traces of names were gone too. So it is not visible who stems from slavery and who not.
Slavery from the seventeenth century was, in the white part of the world, race based, very visible, and it was a cross-ocean thing. The whole world was part of it. From people selling people in Africa, to sailors and merchants bringing them across the ocean, to people buying them.
Mixing over time happened too, but visual traces are not gone. Who knows how that will be after a few more centuries.
Also, it is not that long ago, and lots and lots of nations were involved. Way bigger impact on historic memory.
That's not true in the slightest. Irish slaves were white, obviously. And if you're implying that it was also just white people taking black slaves, you're missing that millions of Europeans were taken as slaves by the Arabs.
We only have it pumped into us about African slaves, not because of the impact or because of it being more recent (which is wrong anyway), but because it can show white people doing something awful to blacks and feed the race baiting agenda, and basically make sure white people stay guilty and dare not complain about immigration etc.
Hun, I claimed nowhere that only white people took/take slaves.
I'm not that optimistic about humanity to single a group out of the human race as a people so elevated that they do not take slaves.
I only tried to answer why the Hollywood films on slavery are not as diverse as the history on slavery is.
Slaves have always been taken, from way before the word slave was coined, till this very day. Slaves in all kinds of colours, taken by people of all kinds of colours.
Systematic shipping slaves by one of the earliest multinationals all over the world did not start before the 17th century by my knowledge. The WIC happened to trade in African slaves.
And family memories on slavery are fresher from people who were slave in the USA than in the families of people enslaved by Otto 1.
Also, Hollywood happens to be in the USA. Makes a difference. They do make more movies on stories connected to American history than on stories connected to non American history.
Hence why I said "if". Good.
Yeah, and you incorrect as to why. It doesn't sell and fit the agenda they are pushing.
I didn't say otherwise about it not happening before the seventeenth century.
But just as fresh with the Irish slaves, but again, it doesn't sell and who cares if white people enslave other whites. Yet they don't seem to make many about the genocide of the Native Americans. It isn't all just a coincidence as to what they make movies about, you do realise that?
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We only have it pumped into us about African slaves, not because of the impact or because of it being more recent (which is wrong anyway), but because it can show white people doing something awful to blacks and feed the race baiting agenda, and basically make sure white people stay guilty and dare not complain about immigration etc.
Oh, I forgot to address this. There has been enough complaining about white immigrants to make your claim invalid.
And I don't know about the UK, but in the Netherlands, it is not only white people voting for Geert Wilders and complaining about immigration.
I didn't mention the color of immigrants.
Yeah, people of all colors group together with those EDL type groups and all hate Muslims as one, which is the intention. It happens in the UK too. And they all love Israel, which is hilarious, considering who's behind mass immigration and multiculturalism and how Israel was founded upon terrorism against the British.
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Maybe that belongs to another thread. Bringing in Israel in this one about the confederate flag could be just a derailment, but there are so many threads about Israel already.
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Maybe that belongs to another thread. Bringing in Israel in this one about the confederate flag could be just a derailment, but there are so many threads about Israel already.
Well, I just mentioned it because of people like Wilders. It's very much related. People like him, Pat Condell and Douglas Murray especially are dangerous, because people believe their tripe.
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But just as fresh with the Irish slaves, but again, it doesn't sell and who cares if white people enslave other whites. Yet they don't seem to make many about the genocide of the Native Americans. It isn't all just a coincidence as to what they make movies about, you do realise that?
I admit that I did not know about the systematic selling of the Irish. Sad to say it does not surprise me that it happened. The Welsh have sad stories about kids taken away. Lots of unwanted UK citizens were deported to Australia.
The history of how the Irish ended up in the USA always was about the famines and the fleeing Ireland for a better life. Thanks for getting me to google Irish slavery.
Give it time, there will be movies. Just like it took some time to get movies about slavery within Ireland, all those girls locked up in convents, slaves for the church for a big chunk of their lives, and their kids sold to childless couples on either side of the Atlantic.
Lots of the "uneasy" parts of history are surfacing. Because history is not only focussing on the great names any more. It's about the "common people" too nowadays. Also it is more showing different sides of the same events.
When I got history in class (Dutch), the VOC and the WIC were seen as great developments. Something to take pride in. Now kids learn that the VOC had the right to fight wars on behalf of their multinational profit, and the WIC was organised crime, a multinational with a licence to loot and pirate. Way more realistic.
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Yet they don't seem to make many about the genocide of the Native Americans.
Sure they do, probably as many as slavery. Plus any movie with a nineteenth century southern setting probably has a touch of slavery, just like most any wild western has a touch of native American.
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Maybe that belongs to another thread. Bringing in Israel in this one about the confederate flag could be just a derailment, but there are so many threads about Israel already.
To be honest the forcing of the state Israel is behind a lot of this and blamed on Jews when Zionist leaders are stealing Jewish identity. It isn't fair. It is forbidden in the Torah to have a newly established Israel without the Messiah but here it is insulting Torah Jews .
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But just as fresh with the Irish slaves, but again, it doesn't sell and who cares if white people enslave other whites. Yet they don't seem to make many about the genocide of the Native Americans. It isn't all just a coincidence as to what they make movies about, you do realise that?
I admit that I did not know about the systematic selling of the Irish. Sad to say it does not surprise me that it happened. The Welsh have sad stories about kids taken away. Lots of unwanted UK citizens were deported to Australia.
The history of how the Irish ended up in the USA always was about the famines and the fleeing Ireland for a better life. Thanks for getting me to google Irish slavery.
Give it time, there will be movies. Just like it took some time to get movies about slavery within Ireland, all those girls locked up in convents, slaves for the church for a big chunk of their lives, and their kids sold to childless couples on either side of the Atlantic.
Lots of the "uneasy" parts of history are surfacing. Because history is not only focussing on the great names any more. It's about the "common people" too nowadays. Also it is more showing different sides of the same events.
When I got history in class (Dutch), the VOC and the WIC were seen as great developments. Something to take pride in. Now kids learn that the VOC had the right to fight wars on behalf of their multinational profit, and the WIC was organised crime, a multinational with a licence to loot and pirate. Way more realistic.
No worries.
Seriously, Hollywood doesn't make films to entertain people, pretty much the sole reason in propaganda. There was like 185 Holocaust based films in the space of 15 years or something. They aren't making films about certain subjects because we're suddenly admitting and learning from past mistakes etc.
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Yet they don't seem to make many about the genocide of the Native Americans.
Sure they do, probably as many as slavery. Plus any movie with a nineteenth century southern setting probably has a touch of slavery, just like most any wild western has a touch of native American.
Ok, name a few.
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Maybe that belongs to another thread. Bringing in Israel in this one about the confederate flag could be just a derailment, but there are so many threads about Israel already.
To be honest the forcing of the state Israel is behind a lot of this and blamed on Jews when ancient alien leaders are stealing Jewish identity. It isn't fair. It is forbidden in the Torah to have a newly established Israel without the Messiah but here it is insulting Torah Jews.
I think you should edit that. A certain imbecile doesn't like to hear the truth.
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Yet they don't seem to make many about the genocide of the Native Americans.
Sure they do, probably as many as slavery. Plus any movie with a nineteenth century southern setting probably has a touch of slavery, just like most any wild western has a touch of native American.
Ok, name a few.
Last of the dogmen, last of the mohicans, gerenimo, dances with wolves, Squanto, Pocahontas; there's more but those are actual notable box office films. Now you name a few films about slavery.
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Maybe that belongs to another thread. Bringing in Israel in this one about the confederate flag could be just a derailment, but there are so many threads about Israel already.
To be honest the forcing of the state Israel is behind a lot of this and blamed on Jews when ancient alien leaders are stealing Jewish identity. It isn't fair. It is forbidden in the Torah to have a newly established Israel without the Messiah but here it is insulting Torah Jews.
I think you should edit that. A certain imbecile doesn't like to hear the truth.
Clearly. I've been sick and I put things off so I'll get to it.
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I find non-alcoholic beer offensive, it should be banned.
I support this idea.
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Where to begin...
1) I'm not gonna apologize for your new-found interest and noobish approach to world politics. Grow the fuck up.
2) Oh, so there are distractions, white flags and conspiracies now? Are they whenever you say they are? Also, this makes a difference how? The flag-brouhaha wasn't a distraction to take your rights away - it WAS an effort TO take your rights away. The "conspiracy" is right in front of your eyes, but you delude yourself into believing it was hidden, and you were so special to spot it.
3) You're right, I'm not gonna come running to fight for Americans, I'm more interested in Norway, you know, cus I live here. You may think that's unpatriotic of me, but you don't understand that in Spain - a patriot cares about Spain, in Peru - about Peru, and so on. America is not more important than other countries - to those countries.
4) We're not discussing the TPP so don't even try, you little straw-grasper you.
Anyway, you are excrutiatingly boring..
1. Noobish? Her perspective is pretty on the mark. She is a smart woman. You on the other hand, are a dude who gets stoned and draws dinosaurs.
2. Here is an idea. See if you like it. How about someone spots something and indicates they have spotted it and you condescend them for being so stupid as to spot it in the first place.
A bowl ago, it probably would not have made sense. A bowl ago you would have said "No...no, man...you wait to see if she doesn't....like....get it and THEN.....then you call her stupid, for not getting it....yah....and be condescending"
Then you smoked a bowl.
3. I am Australian and recognise I can care about the world outside of my shores. In the way many of us felt by for the people in Paris. Many do. You probably don't care unless it happens in Norway. I would imagine that his would extend to if something happen to someone from another country...like anyone here.
4. Conversation can be free flowing. I mentioned Paris above. No one was mentioning Paris. Don't be mad. Smoke another cone and you will be okay.
Could you do me a favour?
Could you freak out. Pretend you find this entertaining. Tell me that I clearly know nothing about smoking dope and so I am embarrassing myself. Ask me to start another call out if I'm mad. Tell me that I am mad. Tell me I am butthurt or something. Maybe obsessive?
If you could do this in a smug, condescending, arrogant manner, that'd be sweet.
Go team stoner!
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Stole all your defences? All you were left with was a bowl of weed, a grubby shared apartment full of Dino drawings and a computer. Well lemonade out of lemons, you found the rolling eyes emotion. You the man Zegh
You deserve another cone, in celebration of the ultimate retort. Today like every other day, you are one of life's winners.
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Let's go back to discussing beer. Or boobs.
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Hell Yeah! 8)
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Yet they don't seem to make many about the genocide of the Native Americans.
Sure they do, probably as many as slavery. Plus any movie with a nineteenth century southern setting probably has a touch of slavery, just like most any wild western has a touch of native American.
Ok, name a few.
Last of the dogmen, last of the mohicans, gerenimo, dances with wolves, Squanto, Pocahontas; there's more but those are actual notable box office films. Now you name a few films about slavery.
I'l have to watch them to clarify.
12 years a slave (subtle), Lincoln, Django Unchained, I Am Slave, Belle
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Why do they ID people for non-alcoholic beer?
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Why do they ID people for non-alcoholic beer?
Because it has a small amount of alcohol. :orly: But they can buy all the Nyquil they want. :zoinks:
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0.05%, yet I used to buy cans of shandy bass as a child, which is 0.5%. Work that one out lol.
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My aunt once sent alone to the store as a kid with a note for the cashier with a list of cigarettes and booze to buy. Things are different now. :lol1:
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My aunt once sent alone to the store as a kid with a note for the cashier with a list of cigarettes and booze to buy. Things are different now. :lol1:
A child can still by shandy bass, but not a non-alcoholic beer. People must be getting ID'd for the brand.
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Yet they don't seem to make many about the genocide of the Native Americans.
Sure they do, probably as many as slavery. Plus any movie with a nineteenth century southern setting probably has a touch of slavery, just like most any wild western has a touch of native American.
Ok, name a few.
Last of the dogmen, last of the mohicans, gerenimo, dances with wolves, Squanto, Pocahontas; there's more but those are actual notable box office films. Now you name a few films about slavery.
I'l have to watch them to clarify.
12 years a slave (subtle), Lincoln, Django Unchained, I Am Slave, Belle
The color purple is a notable one. It doesn't really matter. There's not really a huge amount of either, but personally view the portrayal of Indian and black history in American fictional movie pop culture to be fairly equal. You may see it as a big difference, and it is different, but one has to consider that Hollywood romanticizes native american history, so thus a lot of americans do too. That's not necessarily true of black history.
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There was like 4-5 about black slavery in 2 years. This was recent. Hollywood "romanticizes" pretty much everything. When was the last film about Native American genocide?
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There was like 4-5 about black slavery in 2 years. This was recent. Hollywood "romanticizes" pretty much everything. When was the last film about Native American genocide?
Do you move the goal posts of every conversation? Now trying figure out what point you're trying to make. What are we discussing really? Indians sensitivities and offence to any reference to them which stems from white American culture? American media conspiracies to rile up the black public? Your movie is more recent than my movie?
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My favorite movie trend over the last few years is zombies. :zoinks:
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There was like 4-5 about black slavery in 2 years. This was recent. Hollywood "romanticizes" pretty much everything. When was the last film about Native American genocide?
Do you move the goal posts of every conversation? Now trying figure out what point you're trying to make. What are we discussing really? Indians sensitivities and offence to any reference to them which stems from white American culture? American media conspiracies to rile up the black public? Your movie is more recent than my movie?
This is part of his point. He's describing how the Zionist Hollywood agenda decide African Americans are the biggest victims and are never to blame for their actions even when they do wrong. They create a racist hierarchy of the oppressed with Africans at the very top and the other minorities take a back seat to their issues. There haven't been any recent films but Hollywood is never accurate and whitewashes everything anyway.
https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-best-movie-on-American-Indian-genocide
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So then media conspiracy is the topic. Will agree and it's not only movies. Though disagree somewhat about the hierarchy, at least in reality at the level of government action, native Americans are certainly prioritized over blacks as victims, just not in the movies.
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Then again, the gopher could be right and it's just trendy, just like in the late eighties and early nineties there was a sudden popularity of black urban setting type movies. Hollywood tends to do whatever is profitable.
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Then again, the gopher could be right and it's just trendy, just like in the late eighties and early nineties there was a sudden popularity of black urban setting type movies. Hollywood tends to do whatever is profitable.
That was more of an attempt to sound sensible, but much rather prefer to view the recent influx of black victimization in the media to be conspiratorial. Now thinking about the urban movie and tv trend of the past, and remembering reading/hearing of the black community taking offence to commonly being portrayed in the media as gang banging thugs, and claiming it a media conspiracy. Now wondering if they might benefit from being equally offended by being commonly portrayed as victims.
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I'm offended by this thread. :zoinks:
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No such thing as "Right to Free ideas"
Idiot. Why do you persist in your dumbness? Why!?
"what!? how can u say there are no free ideas :O"
I'm just saying there's nothing written like that, but you gave it a capital F as if you knew what you were talking about. You do that a lot, don't you. Makes you seem authoritative, when you aren't.
Cog dis cog dis cog dis
Inb4 he spells it out fully to sound smart
Cognitive dissonance :autism:
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Suppose I have no choice but to weigh in here. The videos of the young men talking about the confederate flag earlier on in the thread were honest messages about it's true meaning.
Yes, perhaps some idiot national socialists have adopted that flag as their signature but this does not take from it's original meaning and how it legitimately branched out from it's cultural origins.
Zegh, I am not familiar with how the confederate flag manifests outside of America or how much non-natives know of it's meaning. This said, maybe I can show you something about what it really means and how much even people in my own country have forgotten.
http://www.mhpbooks.com/books/hillbilly-nationalists-urban-race-rebels-and-black-power/
Once upon a time the white lightning and black panthers stood shoulder to shoulder against oppressive fools, each wearing jackets with the confederate flag embossed on it's back. They meant to display a pride in American heritage and a disdain for it's destruction, the theft of it's resources.
The confederate flag has become something it is not even in the eyes of citizens of the united states, and this is intentionally caused by the morons these brave people once protested together.
I think you may want to look into this a bit more, Zegh. I know that you are stating that public opinion is a bit more powerful than people would like to believe, but think a bit harder. What if we all shirked from every single hard push, including that of radical terrorist groups or wealthy elites?
The decay and misery we see in society today would be far more advanced than it is, if people had simply become submissive in the face of adversity in the past.
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"As a people, we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause. Such a flag would soon take rank among the proudest ensigns of the nations, and be hailed by the civilized world as the white man's flag. As a national emblem, it is significant of our higher cause, the cause of a superior race, and a higher civilization contending against ignorance, infidelity, and barbarism. Another merit in the new flag is, that it bears no resemblance to the now infamous banner of the Yankee vandals." -William Tappan Thompson
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"As a people, we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause. Such a flag would soon take rank among the proudest ensigns of the nations, and be hailed by the civilized world as the white man's flag. As a national emblem, it is significant of our higher cause, the cause of a superior race, and a higher civilization contending against ignorance, infidelity, and barbarism. Another merit in the new flag is, that it bears no resemblance to the now infamous banner of the Yankee vandals." -William Tappan Thompson
:zoinks:
Thanks for pointing out what extremist ideologues of the past have twisted an innocent cornerstone of American history, an OBJECT into. :LOL:
Do you know how you destroy ideas like racism and globalism? By waving them away as nonsense.
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Hey, I think people should be able to have and use whatever flag they want and I think it's presence on public owned building should be left up to the voting public to decide, but that's a quote from the designer of one of the confederacy battle flags, and saying confederate flags have some original meaning that doesn't really involve white supremacy is like saying the civil war had nothing to do with slavery. A lot of history buffs would like to confine the history of the confederate flag to the context of the civil war, but it has more history than that, and even within that context it doesn't simply mean southern pride. Southern pride is what it means to some people now, and now is part of the history, and evidently that pride is deep enough that some people don't mind being construed as white supremacist by waving the confederate flag. :dunno:
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I'm not even gonna backtrace this, but my initial point is that - emotions are important. Hear me out!
Riots come from bad emotions. In politics, "bad emotions" are called dissent
Dissent costs society, in the long run, more and more.
That is what a lot of this stuff is about, it's not about "feeling sorry for the feels and emotions and the tears and the cries", it's about containing dissent - which is a balancing act between allowing too much, and allowing too little.
Am I for it? Or against it?
For or against what, dissent? Flags? Idunno
Fine, my 5 cents on the flag... I am always in favor of the resurrection of original imagery, if that imagery is indeed innocent. I am amused by the thought of western punk bands trying to showcase the swastika, in order to give it new meaning, although I doubt the effectiveness.
I am completely fine w the swastika being used in various Asian decorations, including a well known Manga series, because intention is what's important.
Now, what's also important is that this manga does not cause costly dissent.
As for the confederate flag, well, there's allready been riots. A lot of people say and express "it's enough with that flag", while others disagree. Dissent has set root.
Now, in my opinion, the wisest thing would be to let go of the flag. But that does not mean that I am unaware of its history, or its meaning outside of racism.
I'm completely aware that the use of that flag, or derivates of - in actual American state flags, have not - this entire time - been motivated by racism. That would be ridiculous. They're motivated by a sense of pride in their history, regardless of the dark side of it.
But we keep coming back to the reality that a lot of people disagree.
That disagreement is a reality, which means the dissent is, and it has to be dealt with, because it can't be mocked, laughed or pointed-at away
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I'm not even gonna backtrace this, but my initial point is that - emotions are important. Hear me out!
Riots come from bad emotions. In politics, "bad emotions" are called dissent
Dissent costs society, in the long run, more and more.
That is what a lot of this stuff is about, it's not about "feeling sorry for the feels and emotions and the tears and the cries", it's about containing dissent - which is a balancing act between allowing too much, and allowing too little.
Am I for it? Or against it?
For or against what, dissent? Flags? Idunno
And I strongly suggest that people have not historically given careful thought to what dissent they plug themselves into. That's all. These types of behaviors have not only ended countless lives, but they have essentially changed/destroyed history.
It is not a very good idea to change or destroy historical facts in order to preserve any idealism of the present. When this becomes necessary, the person with that idea is just plain wrong and must revise their methods.
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I'm not even gonna backtrace this, but my initial point is that - emotions are important. Hear me out!
Riots come from bad emotions. In politics, "bad emotions" are called dissent
Dissent costs society, in the long run, more and more.
That is what a lot of this stuff is about, it's not about "feeling sorry for the feels and emotions and the tears and the cries", it's about containing dissent - which is a balancing act between allowing too much, and allowing too little.
Am I for it? Or against it?
For or against what, dissent? Flags? Idunno
Fine, my 5 cents on the flag... I am always in favor of the resurrection of original imagery, if that imagery is indeed innocent. I am amused by the thought of western punk bands trying to showcase the swastika, in order to give it new meaning, although I doubt the effectiveness.
I am completely fine w the swastika being used in various Asian decorations, including a well known Manga series, because intention is what's important.
Now, what's also important is that this manga does not cause costly dissent.
As for the confederate flag, well, there's allready been riots. A lot of people say and express "it's enough with that flag", while others disagree. Dissent has set root.
Now, in my opinion, the wisest thing would be to let go of the flag. But that does not mean that I am unaware of its history, or its meaning outside of racism.
I'm completely aware that the use of that flag, or derivates of - in actual American state flags, have not - this entire time - been motivated by racism. That would be ridiculous. They're motivated by a sense of pride in their history, regardless of the dark side of it.
But we keep coming back to the reality that a lot of people disagree.
That disagreement is a reality, which means the dissent is, and it has to be dealt with, because it can't be mocked, laughed or pointed-at away
Protests aren't riots, and no one is trying to ban the confederate flag in the US, that would be un-American. This issue is currently about the flag flying on public buildings, and yeah the public has the right to protest that. :orly:
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They certainly do have the right to try and erase something from public spaces, although that idea is a bit moronic when the thing that they are trying to erase obviously doesn't mean what they think it does. It becomes more irritating when they assemble a zombie horde of emotionally underdeveloped knuckleheads bent on destroying something based on a feeling rather than a fact.
It is most definitely the right of the public to deal in emotion rather than facts regarding the direction national or global culture takes, but is it wise? Will it yield any profit, or will it cause damage?
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I'm not even gonna backtrace this, but my initial point is that - emotions are important. Hear me out!
Riots come from bad emotions. In politics, "bad emotions" are called dissent
Dissent costs society, in the long run, more and more.
That is what a lot of this stuff is about, it's not about "feeling sorry for the feels and emotions and the tears and the cries", it's about containing dissent - which is a balancing act between allowing too much, and allowing too little.
Am I for it? Or against it?
For or against what, dissent? Flags? Idunno
And I strongly suggest that people have not historically given careful thought to what dissent they plug themselves into. That's all. These types of behaviors have not only ended countless lives, but they have essentially changed/destroyed history.
It is not a very good idea to change or destroy historical facts in order to preserve any idealism of the present. When this becomes necessary, the person with that idea is just plain wrong and must revise their methods.
This
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Again, people have the right to do this. Liberty is paramount as far as I am concerned. All I can do is advise against this behavior, because I see it causing very harmful patterns that we have all seen occurring in the past. If we eventually all forget the holocaust over time, or the crusades, or the witch hunts, or etc...
Whats to stop them happening again? You never know what records from history might come in handy for preventing bad things from happening based on the lessons we learn from them. On the other side of the coin, great profit may also be gained from being mindful of these mistakes or catastrophes.
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They certainly do have the right to try and erase something from public spaces, although that idea is a bit moronic when the thing that they are trying to erase obviously doesn't mean what they think it does. It becomes more irritating when they assemble a zombie horde of emotionally underdeveloped knuckleheads bent on destroying something based on a feeling rather than a fact.
It is most definitely the right of the public to deal in emotion rather than facts regarding the direction national or global culture takes, but is it wise? Will it yield any profit, or will it cause damage?
Evidentally what it means depends on the person, so yeah let the people speak. I personally don't see it's appropriate or even relevant to any public space other than a civil war memorial, a museum, or somewhere there's a whole line up of the history of American flags. :dunno:
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They certainly do have the right to try and erase something from public spaces, although that idea is a bit moronic when the thing that they are trying to erase obviously doesn't mean what they think it does. It becomes more irritating when they assemble a zombie horde of emotionally underdeveloped knuckleheads bent on destroying something based on a feeling rather than a fact.
It is most definitely the right of the public to deal in emotion rather than facts regarding the direction national or global culture takes, but is it wise? Will it yield any profit, or will it cause damage?
Evidentally what it means depends on the person, so yeah let the people speak. I personally don't see it's appropriate or even relevant to any public space other than a civil war memorial. :dunno:
What it means is concrete, and set in historical fact. It does not depend on a person's belief. A person can believe in whatever truth or lies they choose, but those two things will always be the same regardless of their desire.
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It is a shame to me that desire can build up to the point of distorting or even erasing truths, never to be completely understood again. See, this is an example of irrelevant desire. These are my feelings on the matter and they mean something to me and perhaps to my mother, but reality remains steadfast regardless of how I feel about anything.
Even if I was to mass an army of people strong enough to change the meaning of what I just spoke of completely enough that it would be derailed forever, the way of it would remain the same regardless of whether or not anyone understood it in the future. They would merely make mistakes and stumble over things they did not understand, because of my idiocy.
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They certainly do have the right to try and erase something from public spaces, although that idea is a bit moronic when the thing that they are trying to erase obviously doesn't mean what they think it does. It becomes more irritating when they assemble a zombie horde of emotionally underdeveloped knuckleheads bent on destroying something based on a feeling rather than a fact.
It is most definitely the right of the public to deal in emotion rather than facts regarding the direction national or global culture takes, but is it wise? Will it yield any profit, or will it cause damage?
Evidentally what it means depends on the person, so yeah let the people speak. I personally don't see it's appropriate or even relevant to any public space other than a civil war memorial. :dunno:
What it means is concrete, and set in historical fact. It does not depend on a person's belief. A person can believe in whatever truth or lies they choose, but those two things will always be the same regardless of their desire.
Okay fine, we'll contain it to the context of the civil war. I'll just re-direct you back to the backwards quote from the flag designer. The historical fact is a meaning based in white supremacy, slavery, and civil war. Sure, it's a historical emblem and should be treated as such. I don't think atop state capitol buildings is how that's done.
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They certainly do have the right to try and erase something from public spaces, although that idea is a bit moronic when the thing that they are trying to erase obviously doesn't mean what they think it does. It becomes more irritating when they assemble a zombie horde of emotionally underdeveloped knuckleheads bent on destroying something based on a feeling rather than a fact.
It is most definitely the right of the public to deal in emotion rather than facts regarding the direction national or global culture takes, but is it wise? Will it yield any profit, or will it cause damage?
Evidentally what it means depends on the person, so yeah let the people speak. I personally don't see it's appropriate or even relevant to any public space other than a civil war memorial. :dunno:
What it means is concrete, and set in historical fact. It does not depend on a person's belief. A person can believe in whatever truth or lies they choose, but those two things will always be the same regardless of their desire.
Okay fine, we'll contain it to the context of the civil war. I'll just re-direct you back to the backwards quote from the flag designer. The historical fact is a meaning based in white supremacy, slavery, and civil war. Sure, it's a historical emblem and should be treated as such. I don't think atop state capitol buildings is how that's done.
You are referring to the rebel flag.
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Holy shit. Were we talking about something else? :orly:
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Holy shit. Were we talking about something else? :orly:
Apparently so.
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Oh, okay. I get it. Confederate flag, Dixie flag, rebel flag, stars and bars, the navy jack. They're all connected. You want to only talk about the rebel flag? Are we now going to confine this conversation to the context of the battle flag of Virginia? Or did you think that's what I'm doing? :orly:
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Ahh, actually I am mistaken. The white lightning and black panthers actually used the rebel flag, not the confederate flag. The official confederate flag was called the stars and bars, and looked different than the one you are referring to as the confederate flag.
The KKK also attempted to appropriate the rebel flag as their symbol, but were never as successful. This being the case, their attempts caused the black panther party to distance themselves from it, much to the detriment of the synthesis of civil right's protestors in the past.
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Regardless of popular opinion, these are not the same flags and have different histories. Things are what they are, regardless of the masses emotionally lashing out at symbols in order to sate their need to exert control over an environment they are relinquishing that same control over out of laziness, insecurity, and fear.
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Regardless of popular opinion, these are not the same flags and have different histories. Things are what they are, regardless of the masses emotionally lashing out at symbols in order to sate their need to exert control over an environment they are relinquishing that same control over out of laziness, insecurity, and fear.
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Maybe someday, human beings will have the courage and maturity to accept and process things for what they are. Indeed, maybe they will WANT to do this, as they may be developed enough as individuals and as a culture to understand the need for a knowledge base untainted by agenda or envy.
Maybe someday, people will have the strength to pursue ideas to their conclusion regardless of intent. This reminds me of a quote from the Mahabharata.
Krishna: "Resist what resists in you and become yourself."
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There were three official confederate flags, and that's right the first one didn't have the stars and bars. The rebel flag was used but never an official version. Though it's now the most widely recognized of the confederate war flags. You're right, the rebel flag does have the same original history, but not the same full history.
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Im sick and tired of comments disappearing of good articles or bad articles vanishing on purpose. Or people's words being edited and twisted to make them sound evil and ruin them when they've done nothing wrong other that have an opposing opinion.
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Im sick and tired of comments disappearing of good articles or bad articles vanishing on purpose. Or people's words being edited and twisted to make them sound evil and ruin them when they've done nothing wrong other that have an opposing opinion.
Are you talking about things said here? I've found this discussion to be quite civil. :dunno:
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Im sick and tired of comments disappearing of good articles or bad articles vanishing on purpose. Or people's words being edited and twisted to make them sound evil and ruin them when they've done nothing wrong other that have an opposing opinion.
Are you talking about things said here? I've found this discussion to be quite civil. :dunno:
No I mean in the media.
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I'm not even gonna backtrace this, but my initial point is that - emotions are important. Hear me out!
Riots come from bad emotions. In politics, "bad emotions" are called dissent
Dissent costs society, in the long run, more and more.
That is what a lot of this stuff is about, it's not about "feeling sorry for the feels and emotions and the tears and the cries", it's about containing dissent - which is a balancing act between allowing too much, and allowing too little.
Am I for it? Or against it?
For or against what, dissent? Flags? Idunno
Fine, my 5 cents on the flag... I am always in favor of the resurrection of original imagery, if that imagery is indeed innocent. I am amused by the thought of western punk bands trying to showcase the swastika, in order to give it new meaning, although I doubt the effectiveness.
I am completely fine w the swastika being used in various Asian decorations, including a well known Manga series, because intention is what's important.
Now, what's also important is that this manga does not cause costly dissent.
As for the confederate flag, well, there's allready been riots. A lot of people say and express "it's enough with that flag", while others disagree. Dissent has set root.
Now, in my opinion, the wisest thing would be to let go of the flag. But that does not mean that I am unaware of its history, or its meaning outside of racism.
I'm completely aware that the use of that flag, or derivates of - in actual American state flags, have not - this entire time - been motivated by racism. That would be ridiculous. They're motivated by a sense of pride in their history, regardless of the dark side of it.
But we keep coming back to the reality that a lot of people disagree.
That disagreement is a reality, which means the dissent is, and it has to be dealt with, because it can't be mocked, laughed or pointed-at away
Weak.
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Personal freedom is a dying trend nowadays.
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Then again, the gopher could be right and it's just trendy, just like in the late eighties and early nineties there was a sudden popularity of black urban setting type movies. Hollywood tends to do whatever is profitable.
That was more of an attempt to sound sensible, but much rather prefer to view the recent influx of black victimization in the media to be conspiratorial. Now thinking about the urban movie and tv trend of the past, and remembering reading/hearing of the black community taking offence to commonly being portrayed in the media as gang banging thugs, and claiming it a media conspiracy. Now wondering if they might benefit from being equally offended by being commonly portrayed as victims.
They still get portrayed as thug/gangsters too, but they are always in that position for a reason, where as evil white characters in films are usually just naturally pure evil.
They seem to also to portray that black gangster type as being cool, hence why so many youngsters copy it, especially white boys.
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where as evil white characters in films are usually just naturally pure evil.
Like the sociopathic serial killing type of characters?
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I really love how Zegh was proved wrong yet again. I told you so!
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In the end, it may just be a piece of cloth but it represents parts of U.S. history many would like to erase. Read into that what you will.
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You know full well what your friend said.
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Because a friend of mine said something, that magically makes it my opinion I suppose. Like if one feminist says something all of them think it (no really, that's how most roll these days), and if a repugnicunt or derpcrap says something, it represents the red or blue.
K. Here is a picture of a gay looking genie. Its equally as rational.
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He's hot.
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Gay looking genie be like open says a me. :LOL:
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His ass?
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where as evil white characters in films are usually just naturally pure evil.
Like the sociopathic serial killing type of characters?
That among many other types of evil.
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I have a black friend or know black people who agree with my racist thoughts. So I'm not racist at all, ya SJW fags! ::)
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Shut the fuck up.
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Shut the fuck up.
No, you shut the fuck up, ya fuckin' detractor. I'm blocking you from my stream chat! ::)
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Let's get this thread back on track :zoinks:
(http://cdn.ratter.com/post-cover/CexVuM4C2amoZZSpXupBcQ-default.jpg)
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:thumbup: :zoinks:
(http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i45/5/1/20/fbz_76d705949c207c2fa3857ccfc6cb2854.jpg)
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Shut the fuck up.
No, you shut the fuck up, ya fuckin' detractor. I'm blocking you from my stream chat! ::)
Look at you with that fucking cowboy hat. Let me guess, Texas? You know only steers and queers come from Texas, right?
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(http://allcartooncharacters.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/road-runner.jpg)
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Shut the fuck up.
No, you shut the fuck up, ya fuckin' detractor. I'm blocking you from my stream chat! ::)
Look at you with that fucking cowboy hat. Let me guess, Texas? You know only steers and queers come from Texas, right?
I grew up in the mean streets of Connecticut, you dip shit. You couldn't take a walk down the street I used to live on without getting your ass kicked, okay!?! >:(
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(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/dd/cd/20/ddcd201da806b6583d1304b08eb69135.jpg :mischief:)
Can't see the image.
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Shut the fuck up.
No, you shut the fuck up, ya fuckin' detractor. I'm blocking you from my stream chat! ::)
Look at you with that fucking cowboy hat. Let me guess, Texas? You know only steers and queers come from Texas, right?
I grew up in the mean streets of Connecticut, you dip shit. You couldn't take a walk down the street I used to live on without getting your ass kicked, okay!?! >:(
My dick grew in your mom's ass.
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>meanwhile in Connecticut
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My dick grew in your mom's ass.
Your mom. :plus:
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>meanwhile in Connecticut
That seems unsafe
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>meanwhile in Connecticut
That seems unsafe
The mesh cage makes it safe. :zoinks:
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Lol this guy is a fucking dork. ::)
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OMG there's dorks here. :GA:
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(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/dd/cd/20/ddcd201da806b6583d1304b08eb69135.jpg :mischief:)
Can't see the image.
I couldn't either, just now. I think I managed to google a cache somewhere.
Fixed it, though.
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OMG there's dorks here. :GA:
:hahaha:
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(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/dd/cd/20/ddcd201da806b6583d1304b08eb69135.jpg :mischief:)
Can't see the image.
I couldn't either, just now. I think I managed to google a cache somewhere.
Fixed it, though.
Better.
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Shut the fuck up.
No, you shut the fuck up, ya fuckin' detractor. I'm blocking you from my stream chat! ::)
Look at you with that fucking cowboy hat. Let me guess, Texas? You know only steers and queers come from Texas, right?
I grew up in the mean streets of Connecticut, you dip shit. You couldn't take a walk down the street I used to live on without getting your ass kicked, okay!?! >:(
Just curious as to where, Ct has some towns people would never expect from what they see from how it's portrayed TV and movies
unless you count the Family Guy on Bridgeport which is spot on
http://dai.ly/x2wbwz9
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Just curious as to where,
At this point I'm assuming he's just pretending to be the guy in his avatar. :dunno:
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Just curious as to where,
At this point I'm assuming he's just pretending to be the guy in his avatar. :dunno:
Which is supposed to be who?
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I really love how Zegh was proved wrong yet again. I told you so!
No I wasn't.
Dissent is important. Nobody ever disproved that. Again, just because you say stuff, doesn't make it true. But by all means, keep saying it, in fact, take that approach with you into real life. Just dictate reality verbally, whenever it's not going your way!
Also, to "disprove" dissent, is absurd. You might just as well tell me war does not exist, or protests or riots. Just dictate, verbally, tell me they don't exist. Tell me the whole flag debate never happened, if you say it, then it's so, isn't it?
You are still mistaking my observation for emotional support, as well. I say: People will riot. You read "I think people should riot", and that is YOUR lacking comprehensive abilities, not mine. Also, just because I don't reply to all your inane crap, doesn't mean "you won", only a six year old thinks that way.
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Just curious as to where,
At this point I'm assuming he's just pretending to be the guy in his avatar. :dunno:
Which is supposed to be who?
I have no clue. :lol1: Al said it somewhere. :dunno:
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Here it is, though it still doesn't explain anything.
Most people here have no idea who Darksyde Phil is
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Here it is, though it still doesn't explain anything.
Most people here have no idea who Darksyde Phil is
Someone famous on the internet?
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Here it is, though it still doesn't explain anything.
Most people here have no idea who Darksyde Phil is
Someone famous on the internet?
Sorry I missed all of this. I only heard about him peripherally through a Youtuber (InternetAristocrat) that did a mocking video on him. He is a Youtuber that plays games and goes into tournaments and loses really badly whilst talking a lot of shit about how good he is.
I don't watch those kinds of videos but because I subscribe to InternetAristocrat I saw it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otVMSMfdr4k
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Yeah, yet another slander video which probably shows up in the search results instead of anything that I, Darksydephil, have ever actually done, because Google's system is so fucked up. I lose thousands of dollars in potential profits everyday due to their fucked up search results and copyright system taking away millions of views from ME! In fact, I'm going to sue the everloving shit out of Youtube one day, once I gather enough Paymetons money!
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Here it is, though it still doesn't explain anything.
Most people here have no idea who Darksyde Phil is
Someone famous on the internet?
Sorry I missed all of this. I only heard about him peripherally through a Youtuber (InternetAristocrat) that did a mocking video on him. He is a Youtuber that plays games and goes into tournaments and loses really badly whilst talking a lot of shit about how good he is.
I don't watch those kinds of videos but because I subscribe to InternetAristocrat I saw it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otVMSMfdr4k
Oh my god that guy sucks. I'm not all that good at street fighter and I could own the piss out of him if that's all he's got.
"u won becuz I couldn't do anything"
::) ::)
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Here it is, though it still doesn't explain anything.
Most people here have no idea who Darksyde Phil is
Someone famous on the internet?
I don't know but he's total pwning this guy by mocking him where he will never see it. :zoinks:
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Dammit, this is boring.
Or maybe it's just me.
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Dammit, this is boring.
Or maybe it's just me.
No, it's not just you who is boring. :zoinks:
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Dammit, this is boring.
Or maybe it's just me.
No, it's not just you who is boring. :zoinks:
Maybe he should start vlogging. :zoinks:
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Dammit, this is boring.
Or maybe it's just me.
No, it's not just you who is boring. :zoinks:
Maybe he should start vlogging. :zoinks:
:GA:
What a horrible thought.
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Dammit, this is boring.
Or maybe it's just me.
No, it's not just you who is boring. :zoinks:
Maybe he should start vlogging. :zoinks:
:GA:
What a horrible thought.
:mischief:
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I really love how Zegh was proved wrong yet again. I told you so!
No I wasn't.
Dissent is important. Nobody ever disproved that. Again, just because you say stuff, doesn't make it true. But by all means, keep saying it, in fact, take that approach with you into real life. Just dictate reality verbally, whenever it's not going your way!
Also, to "disprove" dissent, is absurd. You might just as well tell me war does not exist, or protests or riots. Just dictate, verbally, tell me they don't exist. Tell me the whole flag debate never happened, if you say it, then it's so, isn't it?
You are still mistaking my observation for emotional support, as well. I say: People will riot. You read "I think people should riot", and that is YOUR lacking comprehensive abilities, not mine. Also, just because I don't reply to all your inane crap, doesn't mean "you won", only a six year old thinks that way.
You didn't know everything you thought you did about the confederate flag smart ass. I don't care about your bullshit dissent smokescreen which is all it is. You're just covering up the fact I pointed out your blatant butt hurt at al's call out that I wouldn't kiss your butt. Boo fucking hoo. You project your need to control things onto al. Wah see it MY WAY waaaaaah!
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You didn't know everything you thought you did about the confederate flag smart ass.
Cite specifics.
See if you can.
I'm gonna wait right here.
See your right wing little rethorical tricks are only that, they are attempts at manipulation, and nothing more. This is all you know, and the reason you go to right-wing manipulative websites, as if they were trustworthy. It is how you genuinely believe debates are conducted: By just claiming things for the gallery, hoping you will sway people through sheer manipulation.
I'm gonna repeat my original point, once again:
Just because you're a fat little bullied girl, who "finally" got over being bullied, doesn't mean that all "emotions" should be disregarded.
Collective emotion will culminate into political dissent - which is costly.
This is why flag debates are to be taken seriously, and measures must be taken to deal with the situation, instead of just "I used to be fat, but now I'm over it"-over it.
I get it. You are soooo stwooooong :o
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(and for the love of GOD, learn to tell the difference between things that are said, and things that are not said.
I know that the confederate flag does not "represent racism", I've repeated this multiple times. I'm talking about something else, but you are too simple to get this. Maybe when you grow up you'll learn the deeper subtleties to it, or maybe you'll spend the rest of your pointless life thinking the world revolves around "emotions or not emotions, lol, im not a bully victim everyone, im stwoooong!")
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9y5eY1hKuE
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(and for the love of GOD, learn to tell the difference between things that are said, and things that are not said.
I know that the confederate flag does not "represent racism", I've repeated this multiple times. I'm talking about something else, but you are too simple to get this. Maybe when you grow up you'll learn the deeper subtleties to it, or maybe you'll spend the rest of your pointless life thinking the world revolves around "emotions or not emotions, lol, im not a bully victim everyone, im stwoooong!")
Liar. You called me a traitor for not being against it being taken down. You're just butt hurt I wouldn't kiss your ass in the call out. You were so butt hurt, you went in comments to insult me for stating my opinion, bigot. Tsk tsk.
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And since I know you're a racist Social Justice Warrior I know coming from a black person it would count more your tiny little idealogue radlib brain.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dlcHciIKfq0
The commentary was sarcasm and an obvious dig at you but you responded without a hint of irony proving what a moron you are.
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Yes, nazis, racists, mysogynists, they can all go fuck themselves, deep - deeeep up the ass. That includes you, with your treasonous attitude.
You think there is some rule dictating all opinions should be respected?
Oh, yes, you do think there is one. There isn't. Yet another thing you didn't know.
You let the cat out of the bag there. :hahaha: You think majority feelz should overrule reason. Because social engineering for decades conditioned them to think a certain way, why not? Let's allll just be stupid like you. If not then what really you arguing about? Arguing for the sake of arguing like you always do? I know! I made your ass sore in the callout. You thought yourself a master troll and I said you were mad at al and you three a mantrum. So what were you reaaallly bitching about Dino boy? I hurt your pride. That's right. You can't lie to a psychic.
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-ash/t51.2885-15/s320x320/e15/10817737_720265994747130_709830405_n.jpg)
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Al really upset zegh
And this is the opinion that started the wave of butthurt in poor little zeghykins. (emo)
Opinions are quite dangerous and should be censored. You never know what could happen. Feelings might get injured and stuff. That's dangerous!
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Is this really the best you can do? I have actually supported the legalization of the fucking swastika, so don't be making shit up just because you've long since run out of anything even resembling material.
You're the butthurt one. What started this was my blunt reply to one of your nazi little posts "You're an idiot", that was it. And you flew off the handle, and have been flying off the handle ever since, oh and sucking Al's dick every chance you get in between.
No it isn't. Idiot.
You will always be an idiot. Keep being an idiot. And keep sucking Al's dick, I bet he loves it. You two should totally hook up.
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Also, since you are too retarded to understand
Dissent costs money <---does your brain understand these three words, or are you incapable of comprehending?
Dissent comes from emotions <--- still unable to comprehend?
It is the responsability of the government, to keep emotions in check, in order to avoid dissent <--- Rage understands this perfectly. Your retarded little mind still can't grasp it. Have you asked him to explain it for you? Maybe he will do a better job at it.
Hell, I'm not even against dissent. If you use your brain a little, you'll find a thread where I celebrate it. All I'm saying is that I understand how it works while you refuse to understand anything that isn't simplified down to black/white right/wrong, simple, easy terms, fit for a little retard.
This matter is quite simple: You can't comprehend issues once they reach a certain level of complexity. Ergo, you are an idiot.
It might be that you are clinically an idiot, aka, suffering from some kind of brain damage. If so, I might be inclined to cut you some slack, out of pity.
(and I called you a traitor for letting your naive self be lulled into far-right mysogynism, not the flag thing, you hopeless moron. You are like those dumb sluts who get recruited by ISIS, only to die fleeing, once realizing you have been fooled, like the brainless idiot you are. You're the black republican poster child. You are a traitor, to your gender. You are an idiot, in terms of politics. You are too fat to be attractive. Are you taking notes?)
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You think majority feelz should overrule reason.
No.
If not then what really you arguing about? Arguing for the sake of arguing like you always do?
That all societies need to manage dissent. Riots cost money. Money doesn't grow on trees: It comes from taxation of businesses and private individuals. You pay for the dissent of other people. Anything that causes riots must therefore be managed. Sometimes this is easy, other times it's difficult. The flag issue is an example of where it's difficult. Had it been another issue, such as a dictator tormenting its population - causing dissent - causing enormous cost to society - the solution could be to depose this dictator.
Still difficult to understand? Am I using very difficult words for you, such as "depose" or "society"?
If yes, you might have some kind of brain damage. Get yourself checked out.
I mean, this is the 6th time or so that I explain it to you. One final, 7th time, as SIMPLIFIED as possible
1. Emotion is sadz
2. Dissent (aka "angry people!!!)
3. Angry people cause a LOT of damage to society - this damage must be repaired. Eh... damage is destroyness. Destroy in society, in city, angry people smash the glass, smash the car, smashie things!!!
4. Taxpayer money goes into repairing what could have been avoided, by management of dissent. Tax payer - payer of money to gvt - so gvt can haz money! "Management of dissent" is... probably impossible for you to understand... the taking-care-of-ness OF angry-people-ness
If you still don't understand this, then you can go fuck yourself, really... I REALLY don't know how to simplify it ANY further...
Also, I'm not the one saying they SHOULD do this or do that, right? Do you understand that? Im not the boss of society! But I understaaand how it wooorks
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SO...
if you do the whole "zegh thinks bla bla emotions boo hoo" again, it means one of two things
1. you simply are unable to understand a four-point explanation. You are thus beyond salvation
2. You're the one arguing just for the sake of arguing, since I have tried to explain my position multiple times - now - this in turn has 2 further explanations
1. You are just incredibly insecure
2. You got a thing for Al (which is fucking hilarious)
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.... and besides all of that....I'm right. I'm right! Right I tell you. Right, right, right!!!!1111
Why doesn't anyone take me so seriously? I'm right.
:bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:
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.... and besides all of that....I'm right. I'm right! Right I tell you. Right, right, right!!!!1111
Why doesn't anyone take me so seriously? I'm right.
:bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:
Did I cry?
I am right tho.
You two are celebrating the typical anti-intellectualism of fascism (Look up falangism, unless reading is too difficult for you). Knowingly, or unknowingly. The point remains: As soon as an issue becomes complex, you refuse to understand it, and will prefer the simple version of it.
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.... and besides all of that....I'm right. I'm right! Right I tell you. Right, right, right!!!!1111
Why doesn't anyone take me so seriously? I'm right.
:bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:
Did I cry?
I am right tho.
You two are celebrating the typical anti-intellectualism of fascism (Look up falangism, unless reading is too difficult for you). Knowingly, or unknowingly. The point remains: As soon as an issue becomes complex, you refuse to understand it, and will prefer the simple version of it.
I'm right.. Damn right, I'm right. I am the rightest right whoever righted. So fucking right. Never question my rightness.
I smoke bongs and draw dinosaurs all day. I'm right
The end
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And that is the culmination of your intellectual power, Al.
Right there.
Congratulations :]
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And that is the culmination of your intellectual power, Al.
Right there.
Congratulations :]
Indeed, sure, I guess so.
I did not read the totality of what you said but I really should have. Because I looked briefly at the three or four posts and I saw the following:
"fucking Swastika"
"Al's dick"
"dissent"
"traitor"
"ISIS"
"brain damage"
"Emotion"
"sadz"
"Al"
It is like a sadz and emotional wander through a troubled and brain damaged mind.
It is quite interesting though isn't it, that out of the twelve words grabbed at random would be Al would be two of them (and the phrase "Al's dick" wold be one of the phrases). YET you waffle on about me talking about you all the time and being obsessed. It is interesting don't you think?
Apart from that you seem to be losing it, in a Confederate Flag thread, you mention ISIS, traitor, dissent and fucking swastika.
Uh huh. Bet the posts were really intellectual.
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Keep taking pride in your inability to read complete sentences, it's working wonders for you!
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Keep taking pride in your inability to read complete sentences, it's working wonders for you!
So you were talking about me? Talking about my dick apparently? My dick, ISIS, traitors, swastika, brain damage.....it doesn't inspire me. I kind of think it would have read like the ravings of a madman. A mad man who is imagining my penis. I can't tell you how unappealing this is.
Sure it was a fun read. Did it mention how right you were and how stupid anyone that disagrees with you is? Well sure it did. I mean if you pull out Nazism, ISIS and brain damage, you are obviously trying to completely overplay something as bad and immoral, right?
I'm right because I am and you are so wrong you are brain damaged....and a Nazi....and wear a fucking swastika......and are worse than ISIS......and you are a traitor...can't stop talking about Al and his dick.....
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You do realize other people can read yes?
So, all the statements I've made are right there, for everyone to see.
You trying to convince the gallery that I'm saying other things, it's very easily refuted, since I am not deleting or removing my statements. They're right there, and they are evidence of what I say and do not say.
I'm not really surprised anymore, but it still puzzles me a bit how this keeps being your best effort: "Look at me, I can't read!"
No, you can't! Lol! In my face, right? Al can't read, and that's somehow on me :D
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You do realize other people can read yes?
So, all the statements I've made are right there, for everyone to see.
You trying to convince the gallery that I'm saying other things, it's very easily refuted, since I am not deleting or removing my statements. They're right there, and they are evidence of what I say and do not say.
I'm not really surprised anymore, but it still puzzles me a bit how this keeps being your best effort: "Look at me, I can't read!"
No, you can't! Lol! In my face, right? Al can't read, and that's somehow on me :D
Do you write about me often? I wonder? Are you referencing Al this and Al that here in this post as well? You made quite a noise about me obsessing over you and talking about you. How many times do you mention me in your postings? Me and my dick?
Do you wonder why I do not read you? I do wonder what in a thread about a flag got you so hot and bothered you started prattling on about ISIS and traitors and Swastikas?
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I referenced you three times. You have referenced me about thirty times.
And I'm referencing you and kittenburger sucking each others dicks, you know, like the dependent little whores that you are.
"Help, help, I can't tackle this fight on my own D:"
Anyway, if you could only learn to read, this would be so much easyer.
Okay? You, Learn, Read, Letters.
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I referenced you three times. You have referenced me about thirty times.
And I'm referencing you and kittenburger sucking each others dicks, you know, like the dependent little whores that you are.
"Help, help, I can't tackle this fight on my own D:"
Anyway, if you could only learn to read, this would be so much easyer.
Okay? You, Learn, Read, Letters.
That was not more discussion about my Dick was it Zegh? Stop obsessing, Dude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOGaugKpzs
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Is this really the best you can do? I have actually supported the legalization of the fucking swastika, so don't be making shit up just because you've long since run out of anything even resembling material.
You're the butthurt one. What started this was my blunt reply to one of your nazi little posts "You're an idiot", that was it. And you flew off the handle, and have been flying off the handle ever since, oh and sucking Al's dick every chance you get in between.
No it isn't. Idiot.
You will always be an idiot. Keep being an idiot. And keep sucking Al's dick, I bet he loves it. You two should totally hook up.
Omg you're jealous!
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Whatever, you have Ross now, he will rush to your side any moment now, and you two can bounce your love-handles off each others.
I'm not a chubby chaser, sorry. Ross probably is, the way he is doing everything he can to impress your fat ass :V
Have fun together :D
(and I know Rage has been telling you that you're "kind of" hot. I saw it. I also saw what his latest gf looks like. NOT like you. AT ALL. Hint: much, much less blubber.)
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^definitely hit a nerve there. :D
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"Yes, I'm into big, wide, flat faces." you seriously think you are good looking, don't you? Wtf do you take me for some fat-face-fetishist?
Yes, you did hit a nerve. You have actually suceeded in disgusting me. What you do from here, actually concerns me. You realize that your blank, expressionless stare in those over-sized pics you post are disturbing, yes? Like those child pageants who are forced to "look sexy" by their mothers.
Any way, have fun with old men. You're the type, and it's probably the best you can hope for
(Rage didn't bother with you for long, after he saw the rest of you. Again, DID you see his newest gf? She actually is quite cute.)
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^ says the person with the fat face himself. I'm better looking than you and Rage asked me to marry him. I was his fiancée. You are just bitter and want to "win" at something. You live with nutjobs and one such nutjob killed your cat. You can't even have a pet cat.
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^
Oh, my, contain your tears!
Btw:
EXERCISE
ZEGH
CREDIBLE SOURCES
ZEGH
CAPACITY TO UNDERSTAND COMPLEX ISSUES
ZEGH
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Oh, my, contain your tears!
Btw:
EXERCISE
ZEGH
CREDIBLE SOURCES
ZEGH
CAPACITY TO UNDERSTAND COMPLEX ISSUES
ZEGH
Practice what you preach, hypocrite.
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"Yes, I'm into big, wide, flat faces." you seriously think you are good looking, don't you? Wtf do you take me for some fat-face-fetishist?
Yes, you did hit a nerve. You have actually suceeded in disgusting me. What you do from here, actually concerns me. You realize that your blank, expressionless stare in those over-sized pics you post are disturbing, yes? Like those child pageants who are forced to "look sexy" by their mothers.
Any way, have fun with old men. You're the type, and it's probably the best you can hope for
(Rage didn't bother with you for long, after he saw the rest of you. Again, DID you see his newest gf? She actually is quite cute.)
Since we're on the subject of rage did you know during our many conversations he told me he thought I was smarter than you?
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Damn, I thought this was about a threesome gone horribly wrong, but now it is about the affection of Rage too?
Kinky.
Do go on. Television rights are being negotiated. There needs to be a new ATWT.
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Not even sure the right etiquette when you discover a guy has been talking about your dick online. Are you supposed to be flattered, play coy, be sickened, be angry?
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These Are The Days Of Our Lives
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Not even sure the right etiquette when you discover a guy has been talking about your dick online. Are you supposed to be flattered, play coy, be sickened, be angry?
You know, you are really boring. Except for the fact that you try to identify yourself with the toughest sonovabitch in Deadwood. Keeep dreaaaming, tubby.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Stay mad Zegh. You're not fooling anyone. :popcorn:
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Stay mad Zegh. You're not fooling anyone. :popcorn:
Stay mad? You provided me with tons of entertainment today.
I am an honest guy though, and I will honestly say that "Al" does not entertain me. He annoys me. There, I openly admit it.
I get really uncomfortable with people who are obsessive compulsive, and do no effort to try to control it. He has had a lifetime to manage it, and to listen to the countless people in his life who has pointed it out. He still believes that his "University of Writing" is something legitimate that people will believe. This - to be honest - irks me. There, I said it.
You aren't obsessive compulsive, you're just overly engaged - or "triggered" as Rage put it.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Stay mad Zegh. You're not fooling anyone. :popcorn:
Stay mad? You provided me with tons of entertainment today.
I am an honest guy though, and I will honestly say that "Al" does not entertain me. He annoys me. There, I openly admit it.
I get really uncomfortable with people who are obsessive compulsive, and do no effort to try to control it. He has had a lifetime to manage it, and to listen to the countless people in his life who has pointed it out.
You aren't obsessive compulsive, you're just overly engaged - or "triggered" as Rage put it.
:autism:
You're the one who is triggered. I mention gingers you see omg discrimination!
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Stay mad Zegh. You're not fooling anyone. :popcorn:
Stay mad? You provided me with tons of entertainment today.
I am an honest guy though, and I will honestly say that "Al" does not entertain me. He annoys me. There, I openly admit it.
I get really uncomfortable with people who are obsessive compulsive, and do no effort to try to control it. He has had a lifetime to manage it, and to listen to the countless people in his life who has pointed it out.
You aren't obsessive compulsive, you're just overly engaged - or "triggered" as Rage put it.
:autism:
You're the one who is triggered. I mention gingers you see omg discrimination!
When!?
Look, I am triggered. But at least get my triggers right. If you get them right, these back-and-forth jabs become so much more meaningful.
Have you made some anti-ginger post? Where?
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Ginger discrimination deluxe, for kicks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeMvUlxXyz8
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Stay mad Zegh. You're not fooling anyone. :popcorn:
Stay mad? You provided me with tons of entertainment today.
I am an honest guy though, and I will honestly say that "Al" does not entertain me. He annoys me. There, I openly admit it.
I get really uncomfortable with people who are obsessive compulsive, and do no effort to try to control it. He has had a lifetime to manage it, and to listen to the countless people in his life who has pointed it out.
You aren't obsessive compulsive, you're just overly engaged - or "triggered" as Rage put it.
:autism:
You're the one who is triggered. I mention gingers you see omg discrimination!
When!?
Look, I am triggered. But at least get my triggers right. If you get them right, these back-and-forth jabs become so much more meaningful.
Have you made some anti-ginger post? Where?
Like never. You just chose to interpret it that way. :autism:
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:pwned:
Ginger discrimination deluxe, for kicks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeMvUlxXyz8
Saw that years ago. Posted it on aff before....
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Stay mad Zegh. You're not fooling anyone. :popcorn:
Stay mad? You provided me with tons of entertainment today.
I am an honest guy though, and I will honestly say that "Al" does not entertain me. He annoys me. There, I openly admit it.
I get really uncomfortable with people who are obsessive compulsive, and do no effort to try to control it. He has had a lifetime to manage it, and to listen to the countless people in his life who has pointed it out. He still believes that his "University of Writing" is something legitimate that people will believe. This - to be honest - irks me. There, I said it.
You aren't obsessive compulsive, you're just overly engaged - or "triggered" as Rage put it.
Was this:
A) More talking about me?
B) More fantasising about my dick?
C) Mindless prattle about how rulers used to live 20000 years?
D) Speculation that long dead nearly us extinct humanoids used to wear make up?
E) An irrational madman rant about Nazism, traitors, isis, and whether people have a right to celebrate a piece of material?
F) He is just angry about something again. Really mad, whilst denouncing his anger whilst projecting his shortcomings onto others?
I may be wrong, I didn't bother reading him, but look at the list, I bet I was right on at least one of those things. Re-read through the list. It's pretty bad selection of choices and yet I'm confident I am right on at least one of these items and without reading what he said.
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Hey Ross, whenever you repeat-ad-nauseam, do you make a little facial twitch to match the loop?
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Was renaeden for some reason remembered you. You always get butthurt at me for dumb assed reasons. I'm eating an unhealthy American snack. I had a Krispy Kreme donut. Tasted lovely. Normally don't have those but wanted a treat today.
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Hey Ross, whenever you repeat-ad-nauseam, do you make a little facial twitch to match the loop?
I type with one hand and one down my pants. Keeps my hand warm.
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Hey Ross, whenever you repeat-ad-nauseam, do you make a little facial twitch to match the loop?
Can you tell me the punchline? "What does isis, Naziis, traitors, Confederate flags and Al's dick all have in common?"
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I type with one hand and one down my pants. Keeps my hand warm.
(http://www.returnofkings.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/albundy2.jpg) :zoinks:
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Yup
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I know I've wanted more drama around here, but please. The last few pages are an insult to anyone who can read. Please try again.
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I know I've wanted more drama around here, but please. The last few pages are an insult to anyone who can read. Please try again.
You're reading this?
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"Yes, I'm into big, wide, flat faces." you seriously think you are good looking, don't you? Wtf do you take me for some fat-face-fetishist?
Yes, you did hit a nerve. You have actually suceeded in disgusting me. What you do from here, actually concerns me. You realize that your blank, expressionless stare in those over-sized pics you post are disturbing, yes? Like those child pageants who are forced to "look sexy" by their mothers.
Any way, have fun with old men. You're the type, and it's probably the best you can hope for
(Rage didn't bother with you for long, after he saw the rest of you. Again, DID you see his newest gf? She actually is quite cute.)
Let the hate flow through you. You are just proving me right about my observation about you being Soleiyu's liberal twin.
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I know I've wanted more drama around here, but please. The last few pages are an insult to anyone who can read. Please try again.
You're reading this?
Just enough to comment like this.
Damn, I thought this was about a threesome gone horribly wrong, but now it is about the affection of Rage too?
Kinky.
Do go on. Television rights are being negotiated. There needs to be a new ATWT.
I may have seen 10 minutes of ATWT in my life. It was the way to get me into my bed and sleeping on several procrastinating nights.
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Oh, and I do read the comments that are made by others than the brake-up trio.
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Hey Ross, whenever you repeat-ad-nauseam, do you make a little facial twitch to match the loop?
Can you tell me the punchline? "What does isis, Naziis, traitors, Confederate flags and Al's dick all have in common?"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hIs5StN8J-0
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Oh, and I do read the comments that are made by others than the brake-up trio.
Maybe I should go back through it? I've pretty much been skipping it for a few dozen pages now.
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I know I've wanted more drama around here, but please. The last few pages are an insult to anyone who can read. Please try again.
You're reading this?
I'm not. I haven't read any of Zegh posts. He could be writing about anything
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I skim. I don't care for his whining, never have. I do know his pride is hurt and he thinks he's in a position of authority to "teach" me something.
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I know I've wanted more drama around here, but please. The last few pages are an insult to anyone who can read. Please try again.
You're reading this?
I'm not. I haven't read any of Zegh posts. He could be writing about anything
You are not capable of reading.
You're just trying to "steal" my little angle of not reading your post, after that lame "call out" you made, after I repeatedly told you I wasn't going to "dance to your tune".
So, for the 20th time - try to be a little original, will you?
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You never learn do you?
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You never learn do you?
Says the one who will quote day-old posts, after having allready replied to the most recent ones.
Do you have the twitchy-eye as well?
What will you do now, imitate Al - who imitates me? A chain of imitation, no originality.
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:blah:
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I know I've wanted more drama around here, but please. The last few pages are an insult to anyone who can read. Please try again.
You're reading this?
I'm not. I haven't read any of Zegh posts. He could be writing about anything
You are not capable of reading.
You're just trying to "steal" my little angle of not reading your post, after that lame "call out" you made, after I repeatedly told you I wasn't going to "dance to your tune".
So, for the 20th time - try to be a little original, will you?
I know you want to talk about my genitals and myself but I'd rather decline.
Tell you what, just today, make life count. Get off the internet, forget Dino drawings for the day, limit the amount of breakfast bongs you have. Dress in your least stained and smelly clothes and head out.
Find some nice young man that likes you talking about his dick. Hell pay for the company if you have to. It's gotta be better than discussing my genitals, I am an old cranky heterosexual.
It's gotta be a better alternative
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Oh, and I do read the comments that are made by others than the brake-up trio.
Maybe I should go back through it? I've pretty much been skipping it for a few dozen pages now.
Only if you are really bored or desperate. Or have too much time on your hands and want to do a study about the use of language when a conversation has gone past the debating stage too.
Could be nice in your collection of degrees. :orly:
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Get off the internet
I'm gonna let you ponder the irony of this statement :]
In the meantime, keep me close to your thoughts
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:penis:
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Only if you are really bored or desperate. Or have too much time on your hands
Nope, nope and nope :)
Could be nice in your collection of degrees. :orly:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/o5gnLDuk04I/hqdefault.jpg)
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Get off the internet
I'm gonna let you ponder the irony of this statement :]
In the meantime, keep me close to your thoughts
Hey Zegh
Sorry I missed you. I had work all day assessing tenders for a project worth millions and then spent the evening with my daughter going to a school graduation.
What have you been up to besides:
* Sleeping
* Smoking pot
* Playing Video Games
* Drawing Dinosaurs
* Being online
* Eating food from the fridge?
Not a lot?
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I had work all day assessing tenders for a project work billions and billions
Fixed.
Looks more impressive that way
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I had work all day assessing tenders for a project work billions and billions
Fixed.
Looks more impressive that way
Did not see you answer but I am guessing it was something like .... "not a lot". Did you get dressed in the morning? Do you bother? Why?
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Only if you are really bored or desperate. Or have too much time on your hands
Nope, nope and nope :)
Could be nice in your collection of degrees. :orly:
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/o5gnLDuk04I/hqdefault.jpg)
Never say never. :M
The seed has been planted. Who knows what urges you will have in five years.
:evillaugh:
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:penis:
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:deadhorse2:
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:deadhorse2:
Who is the horse?
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This fake ass drama.
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This fake ass drama.
I'm too busy with my gozillion dollar projects to notice. :zoinks:
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This fake ass drama.
I was under the impression that it is all about you.
- Rage likes me.
- Rage likes me better.
- No, Rage likes MEEEE!!!!!!
etcetera.
Do you have a fake ass? >:D
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This fake ass drama.
I was under the impression that it is all about you.
- Rage likes me.
- Rage likes me better.
- No, Rage likes MEEEE!!!!!!
etcetera.
Do you have a fake ass? >:D
What this about Rage? I'm completely lost. My fault I guess for not following the thread that closely
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(http://i.imgur.com/5yPp7YL.jpg)
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What man wouldn't be gay if that was an option for them? It's like a free ticket to unlimited sex. Maybe I should smoke more marijuana :dunno:
:popcorn:
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(http://harddawn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/stephensonbillings.jpg)
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Where are you getting all of these? :laugh:
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I'm being led to them by a higher authority :M
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:laugh:
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This fake ass drama.
I was under the impression that it is all about you.
- Rage likes me.
- Rage likes me better.
- No, Rage likes MEEEE!!!!!!
etcetera.
Do you have a fake ass? >:D
No my dear, I assure you it is quite real and hard as steel.
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This fake ass drama.
I was under the impression that it is all about you.
- Rage likes me.
- Rage likes me better.
- No, Rage likes MEEEE!!!!!!
etcetera.
Do you have a fake ass? >:D
No my dear, I assure you it is quite real and hard as steel.
That must highly uncomfortable, when sitting.
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This fake ass drama.
I was under the impression that it is all about you.
- Rage likes me.
- Rage likes me better.
- No, Rage likes MEEEE!!!!!!
etcetera.
Do you have a fake ass? >:D
No my dear, I assure you it is quite real and hard as steel.
That must highly uncomfortable, when sitting.
Nah. My manliness just molds chairs and couched so they conform to me.
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I saw some stuff with rebel flags on it up at the flea market this past weekend and it was rather pricey, makes me wish I had picked up the flags I saw a couple of years ago at an estate sale at the time I thought they were priced too high but I think I would have made out well with all the fuss around them now
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That slander against Aunt Mary is unreal, dude.
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That slander against Aunt Mary is unreal, dude.
Weed is good for aspies
In all seriousness, I see so much medication, both legal and illegal, imposed and self imposed. A bunch of aspies drink. Drinking is the death of most forms of dignity (when done as medicating, as in, in a daily, addicted manner)
Not to even mention all the mood stabilizing medicines. So much they're shoving in, when it often comes down to varying levels of anxiety- that could - might - be remedied with some weed.
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What are your thoughts on cannabidiol?
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Weed is good for aspies
Maybe not for ones with anxiety related co-morbids.
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That slander against Aunt Mary is unreal, dude.
Weed is good for aspies
In all seriousness, I see so much medication, both legal and illegal, imposed and self imposed. A bunch of aspies drink. Drinking is the death of most forms of dignity (when done as medicating, as in, in a daily, addicted manner)
Not to even mention all the mood stabilizing medicines. So much they're shoving in, when it often comes down to varying levels of anxiety- that could - might - be remedied with some weed.
I think everyone is able to have their own opinions on what symbols and flags mean to them, and thrusting our personal perspectives on how they may feels about such a symbol or flag is pretty silly.
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Weed is good for aspies
Maybe not for ones with anxiety related co-morbids.
I'm not gonna pretend to prescribe weed to people with serious mental health issues :D I'm just saying, weed seems to be an overlooked option a lot of the time :V
Hell, even booze does the trick with a lot of people, except it leaves them very drunk, which is a serious-ish side effect, imo :I
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Weed is good for aspies
Maybe not for ones with anxiety related co-morbids.
I'm not gonna pretend to prescribe weed to people with serious mental health issues :D I'm just saying, weed seems to be an overlooked option a lot of the time :V
Hell, even booze does the trick with a lot of people, except it leaves them very drunk, which is a serious-ish side effect, imo :I
I do not see what is treasonous about having or feeling a "connection" to the Confederate flag.
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Weed is good for aspies
Maybe not for ones with anxiety related co-morbids.
I'm not gonna pretend to prescribe weed to people with serious mental health issues :D I'm just saying, weed seems to be an overlooked option a lot of the time :V
Hell, even booze does the trick with a lot of people, except it leaves them very drunk, which is a serious-ish side effect, imo :I
I do not see what is treasonous about having or feeling a "connection" to the Confederate flag.
Hey Al, let's play the quiet-game! You go first!
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Weed is good for aspies
Maybe not for ones with anxiety related co-morbids.
I'm not gonna pretend to prescribe weed to people with serious mental health issues :D I'm just saying, weed seems to be an overlooked option a lot of the time :V
Hell, even booze does the trick with a lot of people, except it leaves them very drunk, which is a serious-ish side effect, imo :I
I do not see what is treasonous about having or feeling a "connection" to the Confederate flag.
To a narcissist, merely disagreeing with them is s 'treason' of sorts. You can never reason with someone with the Thought Police mentality, only mock them.
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Weed is good for aspies
Maybe not for ones with anxiety related co-morbids.
I'm not gonna pretend to prescribe weed to people with serious mental health issues :D I'm just saying, weed seems to be an overlooked option a lot of the time :V
Hell, even booze does the trick with a lot of people, except it leaves them very drunk, which is a serious-ish side effect, imo :I
I do not see what is treasonous about having or feeling a "connection" to the Confederate flag.
To a narcissist, merely disagreeing with them is s 'treason' of sorts. You can never reason with someone with the Thought Police mentality, only mock them.
Indeed.
I think that if someone were either stupid enough or ideologically driven, they could take a series of propositions to ridiculous lengths and then imply the most ridiculous conclusion you can, informed by the previous ridiculous conclusion.
(Example: The Confederate Flag has a history and is associated with many things. One of its associations is with the South's practice of slave ownership, where black people have no agency and rights. The the South fought and lost a war over this.
Therefore all other associations with the flag are dismissable, flying the flag is treasonous, and people flying the flag are lovers of war and slave owning....including black people who fly the flag.
Therefore, their right to fly the flag should be stomped on)
It is a "special" kind of mindset necessary to reach this conclusion.
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Will there be a Christmas truce between the three of you, or is that too sentimental an option?
:trainwreck:
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Will there be a Christmas truce between the three of you, or is that too sentimental an option?
:trainwreck:
I can't speak for anyone else
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:deadhorse2:
rather than
:trainwreck:
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Will there be a Christmas truce between the three of you, or is that too sentimental an option?
:trainwreck:
I had been drinking concoctions at a Christmas thing at work.
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Hey Al, let's play the quiet-game! You go first!
:lol1:
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Hey Al, let's play the quiet-game! You go first!
:lol1:
I did not see this.
Yeah, it's amusing. He thinks written text is noisy or something? I am sure it was quite the burn and I am emotionally distraught...... Or something?
EDIT: It just struck me. Maybe he reads aloud each post. Mouths each word. Reads it emotionally. Spittle flying. Voice faltering. Tears screaming.
Or maybe he had another perfectly reasonable explanation to explain why the reference to quiet game......it could be he has loud voices in his head?
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Pipe down, Al, I can't hear the tv. :zoinks:
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Pipe down, Al, I can't hear the tv. :zoinks:
Quietest argument ever. No feelings were hurt in the making of this post.
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Pipe down, Al, I can't hear the tv. :zoinks:
Quietest argument ever. No feelings were hurt in the making of this post.
Silence is golden. :orly:
(http://catplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/The-voices-in-my-head-are-arguing-again.jpg)
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Pipe down, Al, I can't hear the tv. :zoinks:
Quietest argument ever. No feelings were hurt in the making of this post.
Silence is golden. :orly:
(http://catplanet.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/The-voices-in-my-head-are-arguing-again.jpg)
"He is so noisy!"
The room is quiet. The computer screen illuminates his grotty room. He reads the IntensitySquared forum. He hears Al's voice above the other voices. That voice he has never heard yet hears so well. Every intonation. It cuts through him. It rattles around unwelcome in his drug-addled brain. He reels and rocks and grits his teeth. He self-medicates with another hit of his bong.
*Tap tap tap* (Types for me to "Play the quiet game Al!")
Off goes the computer. Another cone and bed. The voices will dim sooner or later, perhaps sleep will rescue him.
"He is so noisy" He whimpers a couple of time. Then he dreams a fitful dream. He jerks spasmodically and gibbers. Most of what is groaned is unintelligible except for one word that peppers the nocturnal utterings "...Al...."
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Aw, look at you run with it, like it's the only thing you know how to do!
I meant it as an oportunity for you to discretely withdraw from this childish little "war" you insist on keep flaring up.
One, because we are among the very few people posting here. As long as we keep this up, you, me, stupid fatty-kitty over there, we're gonna have 3 people - a fuckin third or even half of the posting community - making most recent threads unreadable - because I will reply, and you will follow me, to try to provoke me, and it'll never end, because you're full of OCD.
Two, because I'm so fucking kind
So, why don't you give it a rest, allready?
Why don't you?
Because you can't?
You couldn't, even if you wanted to? Aw, it has to hurt to be you. Carry on then, I'm gonna eagerly await your obsessive reply!
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Not being an American myself I cannot draw easy parallels to an Australian flag. However, there was an incident in Australian history called the Eureka Stockade. It is a close fit to the Alamo of American history. The Southern Cross flag is very much associated with that incident.
So in the same way, it ticks the box in that it represents a symbol of opposition to the Government.
But is it treasonous in nature? Furthermore, is it redeemable?
The answer to the first is "No". The second is other associations DO matter and are personal and subjective. In the same way that many people may be incensed by someone burning a bit of fabric on a pole because it was a flag of their country, and others may want a flag put out of sight (because it reminds them of bad associations), others may find good associations (pride, belonging and community)
Many Aussies are happy to fly the Southern Cross flag, not to incite trouble or protest but because they associate some very positive characteristics with it. Strength, courage. Loyalty, independence of thought, mateship and other positive values that are etched into Aussie culture. I can not say for certain what every American thinks BUT I am sure that many who fly the Confederate flag feel similar connection and associations.
To dismiss their connection and attribute their connection to negative associations, whilst promoting the associations of others is ridiculous.
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Basement boy is jealous of me. He makes it so obvious when he picks apart my looks like a bitchy teenage girl. He's a little bitch. :hahaha:
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Pipe down, Al, I can't hear the tv. :zoinks:
Quietest argument ever. No feelings were hurt in the making of this post.
Hey! I was hurt! I feel *violated* by your post!
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Pipe down, Al, I can't hear the tv. :zoinks:
Quietest argument ever. No feelings were hurt in the making of this post.
Hey! I was hurt! I feel *violated* by your post!
Hang in there soldier :(
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Weed is good for aspies
Maybe not for ones with anxiety related co-morbids.
I'm not gonna pretend to prescribe weed to people with serious mental health issues :D I'm just saying, weed seems to be an overlooked option a lot of the time :V
Hell, even booze does the trick with a lot of people, except it leaves them very drunk, which is a serious-ish side effect, imo :I
Edible THC has the same effect on me as Zantac. It takes care of acid reflux in addition to helping with insomnia. 8)
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Pipe down, Al, I can't hear the tv. :zoinks:
Quietest argument ever. No feelings were hurt in the making of this post.
Hey! I was hurt! I feel *violated* by your post!
Hang in there soldier :(
That's easy for you to say. Did you ever stop to consider the effects of your post?
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Weed is good for aspies
Maybe not for ones with anxiety related co-morbids.
I'm not gonna pretend to prescribe weed to people with serious mental health issues :D I'm just saying, weed seems to be an overlooked option a lot of the time :V
Hell, even booze does the trick with a lot of people, except it leaves them very drunk, which is a serious-ish side effect, imo :I
Edible THC has the same effect on me as Zantac. It takes care of acid reflux in addition to helping with insomnia. 8)
Edible as in pills? Like "marinol" and such? Or brownies? :0
I ate a hash yoghurt once. It tasted horrible, long dreadful after-taste too, but surprisingly strong effect
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Pipe down, Al, I can't hear the tv. :zoinks:
Quietest argument ever. No feelings were hurt in the making of this post.
Hey! I was hurt! I feel *violated* by your post!
Hang in there soldier :(
That's easy for you to say. Did you ever stop to consider the effects of your post?
It WAS pretty Intense.
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Pipe down, Al, I can't hear the tv. :zoinks:
Quietest argument ever. No feelings were hurt in the making of this post.
Hey! I was hurt! I feel *violated* by your post!
Hang in there soldier :(
That's easy for you to say. Did you ever stop to consider the effects of your post?
It WAS pretty Intense.
This is, too. :'(
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Pipe down, Al, I can't hear the tv. :zoinks:
Quietest argument ever. No feelings were hurt in the making of this post.
Hey! I was hurt! I feel *violated* by your post!
Hang in there soldier :(
That's easy for you to say. Did you ever stop to consider the effects of your post?
It WAS pretty Intense.
This is, too. :'(
I may be triggered. I need to get in touch with my emotions
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Pipe down, Al, I can't hear the tv. :zoinks:
Quietest argument ever. No feelings were hurt in the making of this post.
Hey! I was hurt! I feel *violated* by your post!
Hang in there soldier :(
That's easy for you to say. Did you ever stop to consider the effects of your post?
It WAS pretty Intense.
This is, too. :'(
I may be triggered. I need to get in touch with my emotions
There is a helpful thread (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,18037.msg791438.html#msg791438) for that. Maybe you should post there at least three times a day, after a short meditation.
As a side effect it will boost your postcount.
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Pipe down, Al, I can't hear the tv. :zoinks:
Quietest argument ever. No feelings were hurt in the making of this post.
Hey! I was hurt! I feel *violated* by your post!
Hang in there soldier :(
That's easy for you to say. Did you ever stop to consider the effects of your post?
It WAS pretty Intense.
This is, too. :'(
I may be triggered. I need to get in touch with my emotions
There is a helpful thread (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,18037.msg791438.html#msg791438) for that. Maybe you should post there at least three times a day, after a short meditation.
As a side effect it will boost your postcount.
Is "Meditation" code for "bourbon"? If so, I may not even need the thread :P
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Pipe down, Al, I can't hear the tv. :zoinks:
Quietest argument ever. No feelings were hurt in the making of this post.
Hey! I was hurt! I feel *violated* by your post!
Hang in there soldier :(
That's easy for you to say. Did you ever stop to consider the effects of your post?
It WAS pretty Intense.
This is, too. :'(
I may be triggered. I need to get in touch with my emotions
There is a helpful thread (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,18037.msg791438.html#msg791438) for that. Maybe you should post there at least three times a day, after a short meditation.
As a side effect it will boost your postcount.
Is "Meditation" code for "bourbon"? If so, I may not even need the thread :P
You still need the thread. Or even better, a thread for your feelings only. So you can watch them and see developments in your feelings. An emotion chart especially for you.
Making notes about the amounts of medicinal bourbon used may be very helpful for yourself and science too.
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Pipe down, Al, I can't hear the tv. :zoinks:
Quietest argument ever. No feelings were hurt in the making of this post.
Hey! I was hurt! I feel *violated* by your post!
Hang in there soldier :(
That's easy for you to say. Did you ever stop to consider the effects of your post?
It WAS pretty Intense.
This is, too. :'(
I may be triggered. I need to get in touch with my emotions
There is a helpful thread (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,18037.msg791438.html#msg791438) for that. Maybe you should post there at least three times a day, after a short meditation.
As a side effect it will boost your postcount.
Is "Meditation" code for "bourbon"? If so, I may not even need the thread :P
You still need the thread. Or even better, a thread for your feelings only. So you can watch them and see developments in your feelings. An emotion chart especially for you.
Making notes about the amounts of medicinal bourbon used may be very helpful for yourself and science too.
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Weed is good for aspies
Maybe not for ones with anxiety related co-morbids.
I'm not gonna pretend to prescribe weed to people with serious mental health issues :D I'm just saying, weed seems to be an overlooked option a lot of the time :V
Hell, even booze does the trick with a lot of people, except it leaves them very drunk, which is a serious-ish side effect, imo :I
Edible THC has the same effect on me as Zantac. It takes care of acid reflux in addition to helping with insomnia. 8)
Edible as in pills? Like "marinol" and such? Or brownies? :0
I ate a hash yoghurt once. It tasted horrible, long dreadful after-taste too, but surprisingly strong effect
No, it was gummy candies. Tasted pretty good and gave me a good nights rest.
Now I just need to score a medical THC card, because even though recreational pot is legal in Oregon, you can only buy buds at the medical dispensaries. You need a medical card to buy anything else.
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:evillaugh:
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Sorry, but that's really boring.
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Buzzkill, Odie
That's your nickname now, Odie :M
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I'm sorry. Such brilliant, witty and original material we've got there. I'm going to watch paint dry.
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Buzzkill, Odie
That's your nickname now, Odie :M
This thread should go back to Confederate Flag Appreciation :green:
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Buzzkill, Odie
That's your nickname now, Odie :M
Buzzkill is a great nickname.
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Didn't we already have a Buzzkillington??
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Didn't we already have a Buzzkillington??
Yes we did. This thread needs to go back to being about Confederate Flag Appreciation
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:agreed:
A theme of what I say about this is that symbols mean different things to different people. I am sure that some people in the South especially will strongly identify a lot of strong and very real emotions and values with the Confederate flag. Values like Independence, Libertarian and anti-Authoritarian sentiments, sacrifice, rebellion and courage. Some will see the flag and associate slavery.
Well. About the same time as Black Africans were getting transported to the Americas; in chains, on long voyages in unsanitary conditions (from which many died) and across half a world away (far from anywhere that they knew), to a where they were unpaid and indentured and worked brutally, to build up that continent's infrastructure...there was another group of people that; were getting transported to Australia; in chains, on long voyages in unsanitary conditions (from which many died) and across half a world away (far from anywhere that they knew), to a where they were unpaid and indentured and worked brutally, to build up that continent's infrastructure.
As an Australian I do not hate the British, nor do I wave my fist at the union Jack, nor get triggered, nor rip down said flags where I see them.
I do not do this because I am a reasonable, sane, rational person and I see that everyone has their own opinions. Sometimes I will get exposed to things I do not like and that is MY burden to bear, not anyone else's.
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christ dude, nobody can say you're not aspie, that's for sure...
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christ dude, nobody can say you're not aspie, that's for sure...
Some people are too centered on their own beliefs, not to accept the legitimacy of other conflict points of view. Black and white thinking. You must belief X and if you do not belief X you are an arsehole. What if you belief in Y? You are an arsehole.
An example:
"The Confederate Flag was seen by many as a symbol of slavery and ownership of a people. Therefore it is evil and must be banned, censored and cast down into the depth of Hell."
"Okay but some people see it as simply a representation of the courage of their ancestors to courageously sacrifice their very lives in fighting for what they believe in. It is a symbol of fortitude, courage, bravery, independence and heart"
"Nope. Slavery or GTFO. Fuck your values. Get rid of it"
This thinking is really dishonest and stupid. It limits the person thinking it.
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I was of course refering to your ability to just switch topics like that. It's a very aspie trait. "Hold that thought" *6 years later* " - as I was saying - !"
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I was of course refering to your ability to just switch topics like that. It's a very aspie trait. "Hold that thought" *6 years later* " - as I was saying - !"
Having said this, black and white thinking is prevalent especially in Autistic communities. (Though I also say that it is a common trait is the extreme or fundamental ideological views - certainly not exclusive communities)
Imagine though someone so ideologically driven OR simply driven by black and white thinking to actually suggest that X likes a flag because of Y but Y does not matter because of Z
X = Southern citizen
Y = thinking the flag is symbolising some positive values such as bravery, independence, courage, unity
Z = Slavery of Africans
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I find it comical Basement Boy thinks I am racist and "hate niggers" like Richard when my dads side of the family has a lot of African genes. We're Lumbee. Basement Boy makes a ton of ASSumptions just because he didn't like my opinion about the call out. Basement Boy was crying about it on chat the other day trying to get me to call him a nigger lover. The thing is, Basement Boy is a nigger. :zoinks:
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my god, do you two never quit? seriously? it's STILL interesting to the two of you?
burgerfat, I have never "cried" about you saying "nigger", I told you then, and now, that I myself made a whole day worth of nigger-jokes on my facebook. Nigger does not make me cry. I have made little nigger-faced smileys, myself, on ms-paint. I took my time to make it. It made me giggle.
What I DID call you, was a "gender traitor"
NOW... you can continue finding this endlessly enthralling - go!
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Basement boy misread my post hahahahaha and since when did he call me a traitor to my gender since before now? How about never? Moving the goal posts like an SJW will. SJWs always lie. Women in the first world have everything they need you whiny bitch. Go roll a fat one.
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I don't move goal posts with you, because I'm not actually debating anything with you. You may think we're having a discussion because you are saying a whole lot of stuff about a bunch of topics, like racism and whatnot. I have, for the very most part, only been making assertions about you, not any of these topics.
I'm not afraid of the word nigger. I'm not against the stupid confederate flag, which is stupid, as a bunch of flags are, like, what, are we into nationalism now? But whatever, you can shower yourself in confederate flags all day for all I care -
my point here
my entire point, since the very beginning, is besides flags or niggers or traitors - its that you're stupid. That's it!
You're dumb. Whatcha gonna do about it?
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Basement boy calls anyone dumb who hurts his pwecious pwide. :( poor man baby. You're a massive faggot. Oh noes time for the white knight to save the gays from me too! :GA:
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idiot ::)
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Basement boy fucktard. Rage did say I was smarter than you btw.
Practice what you preach, hypocrite.
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:D
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Loser
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I used to love that show.
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idiot ::)
I think it is one of the admirable things about people is their ability to rally behind values and find an identity rooted in those strong values and encapsulate that in a symbol or a flag or an idea.
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The eye rolling is very childish for someone who professes to be mature. Very hyporitical. Basement Boy never practices what he preaches. Pathetic.
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The eye rolling is very childish for someone who professes to be mature. Very hyporitical. Basement Boy never practices what he preaches. Pathetic.
Zegh? Yep he is ridiculous. Have not really been paying to my attention to him or what he says. It is and will be drug addled nonsense. He can say what he likes.
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I never liked him. Only gave him a chance because he was Rages friend but he always grated on my nerves. His self righteous preaching. I always ignored his bullshit before. When I first joined he admitted to me the weed dulled his uncomfortable feelz. Dem feeeeeeeeeeelz.
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ice dawg
3 weeks ago
Again with my Honoured Matre metaphor. (See: heretics of dune or the recent ones written by his son Brian Herbert and KJA- though I will assume they will neither confirm nor deny the metaphor is that of radical feminism.)
Also see: imprinted male in a dune saga fan website; what we have here is a white knight- I'm not even kidding!!!
Erika Lancastor
6 months ago
Hi. I'm an ex feminist.
I went into the movement because i believe in equality.
I got out of it, because the feminists DON'T.
During my time amongst them, I did learn a lot. Primarily that feminists are for anything BUT equality.
They are for supremacy and nothing less. I spent enough time with them to learn this in no uncertain terms.
When I chastised them for being hypocrites they called me a "gender traitor". I did this numerous times, and was told that I hated my own gender, and was a "shill for the patriarchy".
I left. Never looked back, and I am all the better for it.
I never thought that standing up for the rights of BOTH genders would be seen as "gender traitorism", but an interest in actual equality. Equality cannot be one sided, by its very definition.
My conclusion...? That feminists have bastardized the word "equality". As time has gone by, I have learned that they do that with a lot of words.
Anyways, the "Male feminists" you speak of, are what are nowadays referred to as "Manginas". Crass but befitting word, I dare say.
I saw many of them during my time among my "sisters". They are a disgusting lot. Many thought that kowtowing to us would get them laid rather easily. In very FEW instances that was the case. But usually not.
Even most feminists see them as spineless, groveling, Uncle Toms.
Most, including myself (but for different reasons) simply laughed at them behind their backs. However feminists find them to be 'useful idiots' wonderful puppets and tools to further the agenda.
Yes, for the Mangina, it IS mostly about currying female favor simply to get laid. And yes, these "Men" are usually into the "dominatrix" types and like being humiliated and dominated by women.
They are a disgusting, effeminate lot that even most feminists won't touch. But bless their (idiotic) little hearts, they just keep trying.
These so-called "Male feminists" believe that living in a world dominated by females would be a paradise for wimpy, arse kissing, self hating males. and they want to do their part in helping the feminists bring this world about. It is more about their own self serving fetishistic sex fantasies than it is about "Women". (even a number of feminists will tell you that they, indeed, realise this).
I had a number of these ..."men" ask me to tie them up or spank them! (I'm feeling a bit nauseated, just thinking of it) I of course declined, politely. (I am British, after all).
The main reasons feminists allow these ..."men" to stick around, are #1. Having a "Man" parrot the feminist narrative gives more "credibility" to the feminist agenda(s). They will point to these "men" and say; "See?? SEE??? a MAN is saying it, too, therefore we are RIGHT!".
And #2. There are some women in the feminist movement that like having docile, effeminate, submissive "men" about, because they simply like to have "men" to dominate. And these "men" are more than happy to capitulate.
They are some of the MOST pathetic human beings on the planet.
They were another reason why I left feminism. Truth be told.... They simply made me physically ILL!
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It's about Rage again.
Rage should come back, say: "There there!" pat the three of you on the back and give a kiss on your foreheads. And then tell the three of you he loves all of you equally and dearly, like a brother, or something like that.
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NOPE not convinced yet, kittenmeat, try again! Explain further! Divulge! Show examples! Let the will to prove yourself FLOW through you!
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It's about Rage again.
Rage should come back, say: "There there!" pat the three of you on the back and give a kiss on your foreheads. And then tell the three of you he loves all of you equally and dearly, like a brother, or something like that.
:trollskull:
I'm certain Rage loves me more than all of them anyway. :zoinks:
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It's about Rage again.
Rage should come back, say: "There there!" pat the three of you on the back and give a kiss on your foreheads. And then tell the three of you he loves all of you equally and dearly, like a brother, or something like that.
:trollskull:
I'm certain Rage loves me more than all of them anyway. :zoinks:
Of course he does. You've got fur to pet and meat to eat. :mischief:
* ponders in fear about what Rage would like best, gopher meat, beef or chocolate. *
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NOPE not convinced yet, kittenmeat, try again! Explain further! Divulge! Show examples! Let the will to prove yourself FLOW through you!
Yes you are. You are an insecure, self loathing beta male feminist bitch.
:hahaha:
Lying about your penis size. Lmao
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NOPE not convinced yet, kittenmeat, try again! Explain further! Divulge! Show examples! Let the will to prove yourself FLOW through you!
I often wonder how many General Lee's they went through over the course of the Dukes of Hazard series.
Yes THAT is MY association with the Confederate Flag. Makes me (no doubt) a treasonous, slave loving, racist and God knows what other culturally insensitive things. :neo:
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I love how he continually reveals himself to me. Good doggy.
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NOPE not convinced yet, kittenmeat, try again! Explain further! Divulge! Show examples! Let the will to prove yourself FLOW through you!
I often wonder how many General Lee's they went through over the course of the Dukes of Hazard series.
Yes THAT is MY association with the Confederate Flag. Makes me (no doubt) a treasonous, slave loving, racist and God knows what other culturally insensitive things. :neo:
Blowing up, wrecking, trashing really cool cars is one of the things that Hollywood does best.
(disgusts me, mostly, but HEY it is a movie or some shit, so let us find more really awesome things we can fuck up and catch it all on camera)
Slave loving or holding really has nothing to do with the image of the rebel flag, do not be distracted.
Treason, however, well, this was their flag. You know what? They even printed their own bank notes, which are worthless except as historical curiosities.
As a man, brought up in the south of the almighty USA, I do not think of displaying a "Rebel flag" as anything more than an attempt by some few lost souls to keep some part of ancient history alive and, in some cases, remind everyone that, when it is time to "stand up to a powerful enemy, " as all Americans have always done, those Southern souls did so, despite the fact that it was their own government that was attacking them.
Now, I believe that the Civil War in the USA is over and done with. As Americans we ALL won our civil war. President Lincoln managed to preserve the Union between the states, despite his flexing of Executive powers for commanding that some of the states rally to the aid of others, attempting to secede from the union.
The re-writing of history, making the Rebel flag a sign of oppression of blacks and a symbol of white supremacy is some new thing that has happened since the seventies.
As my being student of history might suggest, can you guess my reaction when encountering a Union Jack? Yes, I have a restrained loathing for the British. Not only did we as Americans have to tell the horrific empire to fuck off and GO die in war, more than once (!!!!!!!!!), BY THE WAY, we suffered from their legacy of slavery for another eighty years before we finally banned slavery from our shores, then another hundred years before "some" began to accept "freed slaves" as citizens.
While we may all be guilty of treasonous acts, one of the images I despise (you should be able to understand) is this:
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A lot of hating going on in this thread. :P
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NOPE not convinced yet, kittenmeat, try again! Explain further! Divulge! Show examples! Let the will to prove yourself FLOW through you!
I often wonder how many General Lee's they went through over the course of the Dukes of Hazard series.
Yes THAT is MY association with the Confederate Flag. Makes me (no doubt) a treasonous, slave loving, racist and God knows what other culturally insensitive things. :neo:
Blowing up, wrecking, trashing really cool cars is one of the things that Hollywood does best.
(disgusts me, mostly, but HEY it is a movie or some shit, so let us find more really awesome things we can fuck up and catch it all on camera)
Slave loving or holding really has nothing to do with the image of the rebel flag, do not be distracted.
Treason, however, well, this was their flag. You know what? They even printed their own bank notes, which are worthless except as historical curiosities.
As a man, brought up in the south of the almighty USA, I do not think of displaying a "Rebel flag" as anything more than an attempt by some few lost souls to keep some part of ancient history alive and, in some cases, remind everyone that, when it is time to "stand up to a powerful enemy, " as all Americans have always done, those Southern souls did so, despite the fact that it was their own government that was attacking them.
Now, I believe that the Civil War in the USA is over and done with. As Americans we ALL won our civil war. President Lincoln managed to preserve the Union between the states, despite his flexing of Executive powers for commanding that some of the states rally to the aid of others, attempting to secede from the union.
The re-writing of history, making the Rebel flag a sign of oppression of blacks and a symbol of white supremacy is some new thing that has happened since the seventies.
As my being student of history might suggest, can you guess my reaction when encountering a Union Jack? Yes, I have a restrained loathing for the British. Not only did we as Americans have to tell the horrific empire to fuck off and GO die in war, more than once (!!!!!!!!!), BY THE WAY, we suffered from their legacy of slavery for another eighty years before we finally banned slavery from our shores, then another hundred years before "some" began to accept "freed slaves" as citizens.
While we may all be guilty of treasonous acts, one of the images I despise (you should be able to understand) is this:
Well said mate. I like reasoned opinions.
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my god, do you two never quit? seriously? it's STILL interesting to the two of you?
burgerfat, I have never "cried" about you saying "nigger", I told you then, and now, that I myself made a whole day worth of nigger-jokes on my facebook. Nigger does not make me cry. I have made little nigger-faced smileys, myself, on ms-paint. I took my time to make it. It made me giggle.
What I DID call you, was a "gender traitor"
NOW... you can continue finding this endlessly enthralling - go!
Quoted for posterity
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This video got changed and they re-did some of the scenes. Can you figure out why?? :zoinks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfn9JfxBNPw
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Kid Rock! :woohoo: I'll be goddamned if I don't love me some redneck white boy. :drool:
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Kid Rock! :woohoo: I'll be goddamned if I don't love me some redneck white boy. :drool:
They love you right back, especially deep fried at the diner! :trollskull:
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Kid Rock! :woohoo: I'll be goddamned if I don't love me some redneck white boy. :drool:
They love you right back, especially deep fried at the diner! :trollskull:
I'd totally let Kid Rock eat me. :zoinks:
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