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Start here => M.O.-Introductions => Ask Away Threads => Topic started by: Gwen on January 25, 2012, 04:19:59 PM
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Criticisms of AFF, of me personally and queries related to these 2 things, throw them at me.
I reserve the right to simply ignore you, answer real slowly or refuse to answer.
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Answering really slowly is fun cause it makes some people mad! :tard:
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Forewarned is forearmed ;)
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Hi Gareth.
Have you heard from Semicolon since he disappeared from here in July last year?
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Forewarned leads to forearm which leads to foreplay ;)
Fixed
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Hi Gareth.
Have you heard from Semicolon since he disappeared from here in July last year?
no
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do you believe in any gods?
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I've been described as everything from the truth (some guy who wanted to bring autism rights offline and only partly succeeded, but built a nice online community in the process and a bit of media attention), to rumours that seem malicious and sneaky (I apparently have a really bad habit of banning people and censoring them for daring to question me on anything at all) to the outright bizarre (AFF is funded by global pharmaceutical corporations to bring back the soviet union).
Which one did you hear?
Hey Gareth why did you and Amy lie about reasons for those mass-banning those years ago? Why did you go on a banning rampage? Why did you condone Amy's stupidity and unnecessary behaviour? Why have you let the AFF of old which was full of a close-knit activist forum turn into what it is now? Why did you erase and rewrite much of its history? Why did you rely on lies to sell the post-banning AFF? Do you honestly believe that a dozen bannings and 40-50 members leaving your site and an effort to then rewrite much of your own history, and locking down the place, is believable on the concept of "You just got rid of a few trolls"? Why, in doing this, are you prepared to treat your existing membership with contempt? Why do you allow Amy to flounce in like she does from time to time after no real contact with any part of AFF but the chat, and fuck everything up (like the time of mass-bannings)? Why do you both (well ok mainly Amy) accuse the members of lying when they tell her uncomfortable truths? Why do you think all of the above conduct makes your site a site worthy of consideration to anyone wanting to be involved in Autism?
By the way none of the above is rumour, nor sneaky or manipulative. It is brutally honest and straight at you.
As to your right to ignore, I would actually either lie or ignore if I were you. Be much more in form with past conduct.
Oh and welcome aboard Gareth. Glad you are here. Hope you enjoy.
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Do you have a favorite pie ?
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How large is your penis both in length and circumference
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do you believe in any gods?
No
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Hey Gareth why did you and Amy lie about reasons for those mass-banning those years ago?
I don't recall ever lieing about the reason for a ban, but then if i'm a liar there is of course no point in listening to me is there?
Why did you go on a banning rampage?
People were acting like idiots, a lot came back anyway once the drama had settled down.
Why did you condone Amy's stupidity and unnecessary behaviour?
Define "Amy's past stupidity" and then we can talk about it.
Why have you let the AFF of old which was full of a close-knit activist forum turn into what it is now?
Truthfully, disillusionment with the idea of being more than just another forum, ASAN have taken the role I wanted for AFF and so long as someone is doing the work that needs to be done i'm not too concerned.
Why did you erase and rewrite much of its history? Why did you rely on lies to sell the post-banning AFF? Do you honestly believe that a dozen bannings and 40-50 members leaving your site and an effort to then rewrite much of your own history, and locking down the place, is believable on the concept of "You just got rid of a few trolls"?
See above, I suspect you're not looking for an answer to this one but rather (even if unconsciously) trying to make a point of some sort.
Why, in doing this, are you prepared to treat your existing membership with contempt? Why do you allow Amy to flounce in like she does from time to time after no real contact with any part of AFF but the chat, and fuck everything up (like the time of mass-bannings)? Why do you both (well ok mainly Amy) accuse the members of lying when they tell her uncomfortable truths? Why do you think all of the above conduct makes your site a site worthy of consideration to anyone wanting to be involved in Autism?
I'm not going to answer when I stopped beating my wife.
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Do you have a favorite pie ?
Come on now, surely you know this - the poacher's pie from fortnum and mason
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How large is your penis both in length and circumference
Should i REALLY get the tape measure out?
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How large is your penis both in length and circumference
Should i REALLY get the tape measure out?
This IS I^2.
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Hey Gareth why did you and Amy lie about reasons for those mass-banning those years ago?
I don't recall ever lieing about the reason for a ban, but then if i'm a liar there is of course no point in listening to me is there?
It depends entirely, doesn't it Gareth? Sometimes justifications, right or wrong, paint a picture from the poster, that the person interviewing them can not paint. Sometimes it is good to see how someone manipulates truth. Sometimes we are amazed at honesty from a place of dark deceit.
But hey you "don't recall"? Let me help you with at least one instance and we can work from there.
You supported the lie that Amy sprouted publicly that Rossco was organising a group of people to attack Amy and yourself. That was of course Bullshit, but Amy endorsed it publicly. Rossco always went straight to the source of the problem, Amy, at every instance without organising anything with any one. Also without involving himself in things like the gagging avatar thing or whatever. This is whilst you were doing your best to distance yourself from any direct involvement.
When Rossco was banned this was the reason given, that he was the ringleader to these actions. She stated she had proof given by Pm but could not publish it. This too was bullshit as there was no proof, because there was no truth behind the allegation. It was just a sneaky manipulative lie that she could tell, whilst pretending to hide behind the good form of allowing the non-existent "whistleblower" anonimity
There was no whistleblower. No Pm. Just a very angry lady, to whom you are married, wanting to force her will and make a somewhat plausible smear and ban on Rossco. She was prepared to lie to get it.
Why did you go on a banning rampage?
People were acting like idiots, a lot came back anyway once the drama had settled down.
Oh bullshit a lot came back. Most that did have seen what the place is and left again, because it is not the place it was in the past. It has become the place they were fighting for it not to degenerate into. A whiny self-absorbed den of emos. (Yes there are a few very noticable exceptions. But exceptions are exceptions)
People were not acting like idiots. Your wife Amy was, and you either know this or you too are acting like an idiot.
She was busy being a mum and and spending most of the little time she spent on AFF, in the AFF Chat.
You were busy with other stuff like Second Life, and that competitor to Second Life, you were wanting to make and such.
AFF was left to its own resources with a couple of mods with limited powers, and so while you and Amy were off not being a part of the environment and culture, it started to build and evolve. We self monitored and moderated and took charge of the forum. We scared off trolls. We quelled disagreements. We took on activism. We were a thriving little community.
Then in came your wife, saying "OK time to take back AFF from you lot. You need to do things my way." We basically told her to stay out of things as she was not a part of the culture nor had any idea of who was who, and what or what had or had not happened. Amy, decided to force her will and most of the site bucked. She made stupid pronouncements, changed posts, misrepresentaed, lied, banned members and then suddenly 40 members left and you locked down the forum and edited or deleted thread after thread to save the forum from being seen as for what it was, and what happened. A convenient rewrite.
I call this a big lie.
Why did you condone Amy's stupidity and unnecessary behaviour?
Define "Amy's past stupidity" and then we can talk about it.
I think I did this above rather well, but all you need to do is look at how she behaves on there at any time she flounces in. It is similar to what I wrote above. She is a walking definition of the word 'Liability"
Why have you let the AFF of old which was full of a close-knit activist forum turn into what it is now?
Truthfully, disillusionment with the idea of being more than just another forum, ASAN have taken the role I wanted for AFF and so long as someone is doing the work that needs to be done i'm not too concerned.
You want to know my opinion? I think when 40 of the forums active members left, the forum was left with very few active and non-whiny helpless emos. I say what had been built up over so long had gone. I think that it would take years with a hard effort to get a culture or an environment needed to get to where you were in the past. I think you probably appreciate that were you to, Amy and perhaps yourself, would only fuck it up like you did then.
Of the activists that you had you were basically left with two. Skyblue and KenG.
Of the other active posters, Guess Who, Alison, Marcia, Windy....who else? 40 others which generated a lot of posts and interaction simply disappeared all within a week. Not really one of your better moments, huh?
Why did you erase and rewrite much of its history? Why did you rely on lies to sell the post-banning AFF? Do you honestly believe that a dozen bannings and 40-50 members leaving your site and an effort to then rewrite much of your own history, and locking down the place, is believable on the concept of "You just got rid of a few trolls"?
See above, I suspect you're not looking for an answer to this one but rather (even if unconsciously) trying to make a point of some sort.
Again not at all. I am wanting to see how you answer this. I am curious after the passage of time how you will come at such a premise. It may make me laugh, agree, clarify, or question your sanity...might do all of these at once.
Why, in doing this, are you prepared to treat your existing membership with contempt? Why do you allow Amy to flounce in like she does from time to time after no real contact with any part of AFF but the chat, and fuck everything up (like the time of mass-bannings)? Why do you both (well ok mainly Amy) accuse the members of lying when they tell her uncomfortable truths? Why do you think all of the above conduct makes your site a site worthy of consideration to anyone wanting to be involved in Autism?
I'm not going to answer when I stopped beating my wife.
This i know is an old chestnut you like to bring out but it is really a poor anology.
Why? Apart from the fact that I do not suspect that you beat your wife (You look pretty weedy and I am sure she could take you), it is not a good one in terms of the exaggerated proportion of the premise being linked to what I said. But more importantly, your wife, not you is really the one i am looking at. Sure your actions to not react against her stupidity, and support her idiocy, does not hold you in great light, but the instigator is your wife. Your anology has you as the perpetrator. You may want to rethink when the anology works and when it doesn't.
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Popcorn time.
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How large is your penis both in length and circumference
Wait, is he supposed to add, or is he supposed to be a freak where they're both the same measurement?
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How large is your penis both in length and circumference
Should i REALLY get the tape measure out?
And the camera , this is I^2 after all.
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Hey Gareth why did you and Amy lie about reasons for those mass-banning those years ago?
I don't recall ever lieing about the reason for a ban, but then if i'm a liar there is of course no point in listening to me is there?
It depends entirely, doesn't it Gareth? Sometimes justifications, right or wrong, paint a picture from the poster, that the person interviewing them can not paint. Sometimes it is good to see how someone manipulates truth. Sometimes we are amazed at honesty from a place of dark deceit.
But hey you "don't recall"? Let me help you with at least one instance and we can work from there.
You supported the lie that Amy sprouted publicly that Rossco was organising a group of people to attack Amy and yourself. That was of course Bullshit, but Amy endorsed it publicly. Rossco always went straight to the source of the problem, Amy, at every instance without organising anything with any one. Also without involving himself in things like the gagging avatar thing or whatever. This is whilst you were doing your best to distance yourself from any direct involvement.
When Rossco was banned this was the reason given, that he was the ringleader to these actions. She stated she had proof given by Pm but could not publish it. This too was bullshit as there was no proof, because there was no truth behind the allegation. It was just a sneaky manipulative lie that she could tell, whilst pretending to hide behind the good form of allowing the non-existent "whistleblower" anonimity
There was no whistleblower. No Pm. Just a very angry lady, to whom you are married, wanting to force her will and make a somewhat plausible smear and ban on Rossco. She was prepared to lie to get it.
Whatever I say here in response I know you will not believe or respect unless it's "you are completely 100% right", with that disclaimer out of the way however:
Rossco was indeed encouraging people to cause trouble or protest in some way Amy's actions and given how much both of us have put into getting this community (AFF) off the ground (even if you think it's one we apparently don't fit into anymore - it wouldn't exist without us) the attacks were just too much.
I admit my very obvious bias as we're talking about my wife here, but I still stand by Amy's decisions at that time based on the attacks we were receiving. Take that as you like.
Why did you go on a banning rampage?
People were acting like idiots, a lot came back anyway once the drama had settled down.
Oh bullshit a lot came back. Most that did have seen what the place is and left again, because it is not the place it was in the past. It has become the place they were fighting for it not to degenerate into. A whiny self-absorbed den of emos. (Yes there are a few very noticable exceptions. But exceptions are exceptions)
People were not acting like idiots. Your wife Amy was, and you either know this or you too are acting like an idiot.
She was busy being a mum and and spending most of the little time she spent on AFF, in the AFF Chat.
You were busy with other stuff like Second Life, and that competitor to Second Life, you were wanting to make and such.
AFF was left to its own resources with a couple of mods with limited powers, and so while you and Amy were off not being a part of the environment and culture, it started to build and evolve. We self monitored and moderated and took charge of the forum. We scared off trolls. We quelled disagreements. We took on activism. We were a thriving little community.
Some people didn't come back, a lot did. Me and Amy were busy (with what doesn't matter - the time when AFF was our only big purpose in life is passed for better or worse), we came back and Amy was made to feel a little like maria and altair returning to masyaf (yeah, i'm still addicted to Assassins Creed - long story short, they leave the assassin order after leaving it in good hands, they return to find it a shadow of its former self with no training happening and themselves very unwelcome, they get chased back out again only to return later after killing the new leader).
Then in came your wife, saying "OK time to take back AFF from you lot. You need to do things my way." We basically told her to stay out of things as she was not a part of the culture nor had any idea of who was who, and what or what had or had not happened. Amy, decided to force her will and most of the site bucked. She made stupid pronouncements, changed posts, misrepresentaed, lied, banned members and then suddenly 40 members left and you locked down the forum and edited or deleted thread after thread to save the forum from being seen as for what it was, and what happened. A convenient rewrite.
It was perhaps a rewrite - we got rid of a lot of posts which caused nothing but conflict.
Think about the greater purpose and goals of AFF - they're hopeless if we dwell on old ingroup conflicts and drama - getting rid of those old posts allowed things to move on a bit.
Food for thought:
Right now AFF is in the middle of another extended period free of the presence of myself and Amy (I only just made a few posts there in the past few days after a long period of absence). If AFF is currently off-track, it is not due to my own or Amy's bad leadership leading it down the wrong path - at present we're leading it nowhere and trusting the community to lead itself.
Why did you condone Amy's stupidity and unnecessary behaviour?
Define "Amy's past stupidity" and then we can talk about it.
I think I did this above rather well, but all you need to do is look at how she behaves on there at any time she flounces in. It is similar to what I wrote above. She is a walking definition of the word 'Liability"
I think my responses above are also good
Why have you let the AFF of old which was full of a close-knit activist forum turn into what it is now?
Truthfully, disillusionment with the idea of being more than just another forum, ASAN have taken the role I wanted for AFF and so long as someone is doing the work that needs to be done i'm not too concerned.
You want to know my opinion? I think when 40 of the forums active members left, the forum was left with very few active and non-whiny helpless emos. I say what had been built up over so long had gone. I think that it would take years with a hard effort to get a culture or an environment needed to get to where you were in the past. I think you probably appreciate that were you to, Amy and perhaps yourself, would only fuck it up like you did then.
Not sarcastic - who should take the mantle and is able to get things back on track? I have been giving serious thought to passing everything over to another highly trusted person, trouble is I just can't find one who's both trustworthy AND competent. Plenty of trustworthy people, plenty of competent people - few with both traits sadly.
Alex Plank is technically competent to run the site and if that was the only relevant factor i'd change the root password on the server and hand it over - but I think i'd be quite rightly lynched for doing so.
Of the activists that you had you were basically left with two. Skyblue and KenG.
Of the other active posters, Guess Who, Alison, Marcia, Windy....who else? 40 others which generated a lot of posts and interaction simply disappeared all within a week. Not really one of your better moments, huh?
Indeed
Why did you erase and rewrite much of its history? Why did you rely on lies to sell the post-banning AFF? Do you honestly believe that a dozen bannings and 40-50 members leaving your site and an effort to then rewrite much of your own history, and locking down the place, is believable on the concept of "You just got rid of a few trolls"?
See above, I suspect you're not looking for an answer to this one but rather (even if unconsciously) trying to make a point of some sort.
Again not at all. I am wanting to see how you answer this. I am curious after the passage of time how you will come at such a premise. It may make me laugh, agree, clarify, or question your sanity...might do all of these at once.
Why, in doing this, are you prepared to treat your existing membership with contempt? Why do you allow Amy to flounce in like she does from time to time after no real contact with any part of AFF but the chat, and fuck everything up (like the time of mass-bannings)? Why do you both (well ok mainly Amy) accuse the members of lying when they tell her uncomfortable truths? Why do you think all of the above conduct makes your site a site worthy of consideration to anyone wanting to be involved in Autism?
I'm not going to answer when I stopped beating my wife.
This i know is an old chestnut you like to bring out but it is really a poor anology.
Why? Apart from the fact that I do not suspect that you beat your wife (You look pretty weedy and I am sure she could take you), it is not a good one in terms of the exaggerated proportion of the premise being linked to what I said. But more importantly, your wife, not you is really the one i am looking at. Sure your actions to not react against her stupidity, and support her idiocy, does not hold you in great light, but the instigator is your wife. Your anology has you as the perpetrator. You may want to rethink when the anology works and when it doesn't.
The "when did you stop beating your wife" thing is a classic analogy for a leading question - it's not meant to refer to literal beatings.
If the person answers with a time, they admit they did beat their wife. If the person answers they're still doing it, they ALSO admit they're beating their wife currently. If I tell you why i'm allegedly prepared to treat people with contempt, I admit I treat them with contempt.
The same could go for Amy - when did she stop beating her wife? (ooh, kinky - might have to ask her actually)
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Welcome, etc.
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Do you really think you are famous?
Why should any of us give any more of a shit about your joining than we would of anyone else joining?
Have you ever been diagnosed with NPD?
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kenm, isn't he that guy always posting the anti-women threads on wp? lol
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The real question is.
whe nare you going to post a picture of yourself naked and humping your compter monitor?
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kenm, isn't he that guy always posting the anti-women threads on wp? lol
KenM was that guy yeah, but KenG is that Isreali guy who does a lot of activism on many fronts. Admirable work :)
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It depends entirely, doesn't it Gareth? Sometimes justifications, right or wrong, paint a picture from the poster, that the person interviewing them can not paint. Sometimes it is good to see how someone manipulates truth. Sometimes we are amazed at honesty from a place of dark deceit.
But hey you "don't recall"? Let me help you with at least one instance and we can work from there.
You supported the lie that Amy sprouted publicly that Rossco was organising a group of people to attack Amy and yourself. That was of course Bullshit, but Amy endorsed it publicly. Rossco always went straight to the source of the problem, Amy, at every instance without organising anything with any one. Also without involving himself in things like the gagging avatar thing or whatever. This is whilst you were doing your best to distance yourself from any direct involvement.
When Rossco was banned this was the reason given, that he was the ringleader to these actions. She stated she had proof given by Pm but could not publish it. This too was bullshit as there was no proof, because there was no truth behind the allegation. It was just a sneaky manipulative lie that she could tell, whilst pretending to hide behind the good form of allowing the non-existent "whistleblower" anonimity
There was no whistleblower. No Pm. Just a very angry lady, to whom you are married, wanting to force her will and make a somewhat plausible smear and ban on Rossco. She was prepared to lie to get it.
Whatever I say here in response I know you will not believe or respect unless it's "you are completely 100% right", with that disclaimer out of the way however:
Rossco was indeed encouraging people to cause trouble or protest in some way Amy's actions and given how much both of us have put into getting this community (AFF) off the ground (even if you think it's one we apparently don't fit into anymore - it wouldn't exist without us) the attacks were just too much.
I admit my very obvious bias as we're talking about my wife here, but I still stand by Amy's decisions at that time based on the attacks we were receiving. Take that as you like.
OK this is 'how i like'. I am/was Rossco and i know i did not organise any attacks and while people whilst i was well aware of different tactics people were doing to let their displeasure known I am not and never was one for subtlety. I went straight to Amy (who i determined as the crux of the problem. I did not seek to encourage anyone.)
The PM bullshit..was just that. It was a bullshit excuse because Amy desired a reason other than "he is disagreeing with what I am saying publicly".
Rather than perhaps look at her conduct she projected her disagreements on others and needed to get rid of all people who were shouting her down. I narturally was the least subtle and most vocal. So she decided to be sneaky and force her will with a neat excuse. Only problem is it was a lie.
You are justifying her methods as a means to an end. Getting rid of someone who was attacking her. But let's not pretend there was any truth in what she publicaly announced. We all know it wasn't and never will be.
Some people didn't come back, a lot did. Me and Amy were busy (with what doesn't matter - the time when AFF was our only big purpose in life is passed for better or worse), we came back and Amy was made to feel a little like maria and altair returning to masyaf (yeah, i'm still addicted to Assassins Creed - long story short, they leave the assassin order after leaving it in good hands, they return to find it a shadow of its former self with no training happening and themselves very unwelcome, they get chased back out again only to return later after killing the new leader).
Amy came back and the forum and the culture she left had changed on her. She was unaware of who was who and what. She decided to wrest any control from the forum community and set up things in her own style. We all took offence at that. We let her know. She took offence at that and started f,laming us and we straight back at her. Most started with things like the gagged avatarstuff to show communual displeasure. I didn't i kept at her. Exposing what i saw as poor behaviour on her part.
If she had of said. "Hey guys, long time away. What is happening here nowdays..." and sught to fit in and become a part of the forum rather than force her way in, things would have not eventuated with 40 active members leaving in disgust. But you know this right?
Then in came your wife, saying "OK time to take back AFF from you lot. You need to do things my way." We basically told her to stay out of things as she was not a part of the culture nor had any idea of who was who, and what or what had or had not happened. Amy, decided to force her will and most of the site bucked. She made stupid pronouncements, changed posts, misrepresentaed, lied, banned members and then suddenly 40 members left and you locked down the forum and edited or deleted thread after thread to save the forum from being seen as for what it was, and what happened. A convenient rewrite.
It was perhaps a rewrite - we got rid of a lot of posts which caused nothing but conflict.
Think about the greater purpose and goals of AFF - they're hopeless if we dwell on old ingroup conflicts and drama - getting rid of those old posts allowed things to move on a bit.
Food for thought:
Right now AFF is in the middle of another extended period free of the presence of myself and Amy (I only just made a few posts there in the past few days after a long period of absence). If AFF is currently off-track, it is not due to my own or Amy's bad leadership leading it down the wrong path - at present we're leading it nowhere and trusting the community to lead itself.
Too little too late Gareth. You had a fine forum full of good strong, active members prepared to be and do the things you wanted. Be a support and activist and espouse strong determined values within the online Autistic community. You and Amy shat on them and chased them off. rather than let them go.
Now you have a forum with few of such people and are bereft of such culture. You can do what you like - foster it, ignore it or whatever. Your ship has sailed.
I think I did this above rather well, but all you need to do is look at how she behaves on there at any time she flounces in. It is similar to what I wrote above. She is a walking definition of the word 'Liability"
I think my responses above are also good
I think you are in a hard position Gareth. Amy is not good for that forum. Maybe in activist things. Maybe when it comes to intimidating newbies or something. But she basically is a liability. You were always more level-headed and technically savvy and more involved.
However she is both your wife and another Admin/Owner.
So...do i treat you as an unfortunate who has to bear his wife's silliness and supporrt her because she is his wife and take pity on you?
Or should i say'No, he is an owner and admin too and if he cared about the site than he ought to have had the guts to do the right thing when it was needed and preserve the site from her silliness at risk of looking like not totally backing her? If he doesn't then he is not an unfortunate but an Admin who did not choose to act when he should have?" i go the latter
You want to know my opinion? I think when 40 of the forums active members left, the forum was left with very few active and non-whiny helpless emos. I say what had been built up over so long had gone. I think that it would take years with a hard effort to get a culture or an environment needed to get to where you were in the past. I think you probably appreciate that were you to, Amy and perhaps yourself, would only fuck it up like you did then.
Not sarcastic - who should take the mantle and is able to get things back on track? I have been giving serious thought to passing everything over to another highly trusted person, trouble is I just can't find one who's both trustworthy AND competent. Plenty of trustworthy people, plenty of competent people - few with both traits sadly.
Alex Plank is technically competent to run the site and if that was the only relevant factor i'd change the root password on the server and hand it over - but I think i'd be quite rightly lynched for doing so.
Who? Three or four years ago i could have given you a slew of names. YOu would have ben starved for choice. Now, nada.
Maybe Superboyian?
Maybe send them as a redirect here. We would increase membership here.
They would not be hurtling down the Autism Speaks road to glory.
Of the activists that you had you were basically left with two. Skyblue and KenG.
Of the other active posters, Guess Who, Alison, Marcia, Windy....who else? 40 others which generated a lot of posts and interaction simply disappeared all within a week. Not really one of your better moments, huh?
Indeed
Oh hell, it is not like there is anything that can be done about it now in hindsight.
This i know is an old chestnut you like to bring out but it is really a poor anology.
Why? Apart from the fact that I do not suspect that you beat your wife (You look pretty weedy and I am sure she could take you), it is not a good one in terms of the exaggerated proportion of the premise being linked to what I said. But more importantly, your wife, not you is really the one i am looking at. Sure your actions to not react against her stupidity, and support her idiocy, does not hold you in great light, but the instigator is your wife. Your anology has you as the perpetrator. You may want to rethink when the anology works and when it doesn't.
The "when did you stop beating your wife" thing is a classic analogy for a leading question - it's not meant to refer to literal beatings.
If the person answers with a time, they admit they did beat their wife. If the person answers they're still doing it, they ALSO admit they're beating their wife currently. If I tell you why i'm allegedly prepared to treat people with contempt, I admit I treat them with contempt.
The same could go for Amy - when did she stop beating her wife? (ooh, kinky - might have to ask her actually)
Past is past and i think we are all adult enough to see what was done in the past was done in the past. Did you treat the people with contempt? I would say probably. Did your wife? Yes. Did she treat me with contempt when I dropped back into the site for a bit? The answer is yes again? Did I treat her with contempt? Absolutely.
Do you or she treat people like this now? No idea and i will not second guess that.
Again I think that with a powder keg like this, honesty works nbest. Kind of saying "Yes we did and we read it wrong completely and fucked up our forum and it was upsetting all around" may be nice. Admitting that the membership were banned unnecessarily might be another good call.
Where does that leave me? Probably with a "Meh..thought so"
Or deny it and/or justify it and I get mileage out of this. Either works for me.
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Do you really think you are famous?
Within the community i'd say i'm at least "well known"
Why should any of us give any more of a shit about your joining than we would of anyone else joining?
I'm hardly asking for a celebration and a red carpet
Have you ever been diagnosed with NPD?
Nothing wrong with a bit of ego ;)
Seriously though, I haven't and don't match the criteria, but I have been described as arrogant, so you decide.
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I2, the scrapyard of the autistic community. Why is it that autie drama is always redirected here?
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It depends entirely, doesn't it Gareth? Sometimes justifications, right or wrong, paint a picture from the poster, that the person interviewing them can not paint. Sometimes it is good to see how someone manipulates truth. Sometimes we are amazed at honesty from a place of dark deceit.
But hey you "don't recall"? Let me help you with at least one instance and we can work from there.
You supported the lie that Amy sprouted publicly that Rossco was organising a group of people to attack Amy and yourself. That was of course Bullshit, but Amy endorsed it publicly. Rossco always went straight to the source of the problem, Amy, at every instance without organising anything with any one. Also without involving himself in things like the gagging avatar thing or whatever. This is whilst you were doing your best to distance yourself from any direct involvement.
When Rossco was banned this was the reason given, that he was the ringleader to these actions. She stated she had proof given by Pm but could not publish it. This too was bullshit as there was no proof, because there was no truth behind the allegation. It was just a sneaky manipulative lie that she could tell, whilst pretending to hide behind the good form of allowing the non-existent "whistleblower" anonimity
There was no whistleblower. No Pm. Just a very angry lady, to whom you are married, wanting to force her will and make a somewhat plausible smear and ban on Rossco. She was prepared to lie to get it.
Whatever I say here in response I know you will not believe or respect unless it's "you are completely 100% right", with that disclaimer out of the way however:
Rossco was indeed encouraging people to cause trouble or protest in some way Amy's actions and given how much both of us have put into getting this community (AFF) off the ground (even if you think it's one we apparently don't fit into anymore - it wouldn't exist without us) the attacks were just too much.
I admit my very obvious bias as we're talking about my wife here, but I still stand by Amy's decisions at that time based on the attacks we were receiving. Take that as you like.
OK this is 'how i like'. I am/was Rossco and i know i did not organise any attacks and while people whilst i was well aware of different tactics people were doing to let their displeasure known I am not and never was one for subtlety. I went straight to Amy (who i determined as the crux of the problem. I did not seek to encourage anyone.)
If you are rossco then you know rossco's old password at AFF or can access the associated email account. How would you like to verify yourself?
The reason i'm asking is because I need consent before I manually query the database and paste the PMs here. If you think they don't exist then you have nothing to fear and your consent should be forthcoming, right?
I'll respond to the rest of your post after this
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kenm, isn't he that guy always posting the anti-women threads on wp? lol
KenM was that guy yeah, but KenG is that Isreali guy who does a lot of activism on many fronts. Admirable work :)
ah Ok, thanks!
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well ... so, how big is your junk ?
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I2, the scrapyard of the autistic community. Why is it that autie drama is always redirected here?
'Cause all the best smilies are here! Works for me! :2thumbsup:
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if you had to be painted with body paint and walk around in public, and your choices were either pink or purple. which would you use.
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Any collections?
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Is AFF for sale?
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if you had to be painted with body paint and walk around in public, and your choices were either pink or purple. which would you use.
Pink!
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Any collections?
Yes
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Is AFF for sale?
No, but you would think it was for all the spam I get asking to buy the domain.
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Any collections?
Yes
Care to share or is it a collection of some type of kinky porn and your embarrassed.. Don't worry we're very accepting here :P
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It depends entirely, doesn't it Gareth? Sometimes justifications, right or wrong, paint a picture from the poster, that the person interviewing them can not paint. Sometimes it is good to see how someone manipulates truth. Sometimes we are amazed at honesty from a place of dark deceit.
But hey you "don't recall"? Let me help you with at least one instance and we can work from there.
You supported the lie that Amy sprouted publicly that Rossco was organising a group of people to attack Amy and yourself. That was of course Bullshit, but Amy endorsed it publicly. Rossco always went straight to the source of the problem, Amy, at every instance without organising anything with any one. Also without involving himself in things like the gagging avatar thing or whatever. This is whilst you were doing your best to distance yourself from any direct involvement.
When Rossco was banned this was the reason given, that he was the ringleader to these actions. She stated she had proof given by Pm but could not publish it. This too was bullshit as there was no proof, because there was no truth behind the allegation. It was just a sneaky manipulative lie that she could tell, whilst pretending to hide behind the good form of allowing the non-existent "whistleblower" anonimity
There was no whistleblower. No Pm. Just a very angry lady, to whom you are married, wanting to force her will and make a somewhat plausible smear and ban on Rossco. She was prepared to lie to get it.
Whatever I say here in response I know you will not believe or respect unless it's "you are completely 100% right", with that disclaimer out of the way however:
Rossco was indeed encouraging people to cause trouble or protest in some way Amy's actions and given how much both of us have put into getting this community (AFF) off the ground (even if you think it's one we apparently don't fit into anymore - it wouldn't exist without us) the attacks were just too much.
I admit my very obvious bias as we're talking about my wife here, but I still stand by Amy's decisions at that time based on the attacks we were receiving. Take that as you like.
OK this is 'how i like'. I am/was Rossco and i know i did not organise any attacks and while people whilst i was well aware of different tactics people were doing to let their displeasure known I am not and never was one for subtlety. I went straight to Amy (who i determined as the crux of the problem. I did not seek to encourage anyone.)
If you are rossco then you know rossco's old password at AFF or can access the associated email account. How would you like to verify yourself?
The reason i'm asking is because I need consent before I manually query the database and paste the PMs here. If you think they don't exist then you have nothing to fear and your consent should be forthcoming, right?
I'll respond to the rest of your post after this
I know my old password of course. It is a common password I use at most places I am online. Anything to fear? What are you on about?
Out of interest. (It just occurred to me). Are you posting trying to post evidence from MY Pm's that I was organising the members of AFF in their actions against Amy and yourself? If so that is fine. You won't find any. OR are you atually trying disprove my point in posting Amy's Pm's that she recieved from members showing evidence that I was organising members in actions against you both.
Slight difference. I was arguing the latter. Same result ultimately but the former requires my password details and the latter doesn't. I was making claims on the latter.
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I know my old password of course. It is a common password I use at most places I am online. Anything to fear? What are you on about?
well, it's not posting the measurements of his wiener that is for sure
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Any collections?
Yes
Care to share or is it a collection of some type of kinky porn and your embarrassed.. Don't worry we're very accepting here :P
I have a collection of Assassins Creed memorabilia including all the games, novels, comics and movies, the special boxes, the making of DVDs, the encyclopedia, the soundtracks and a special cup
This is a series i'm absolutely hooked on - whatever the AC equivalent of "trekkie" is (as a term for star trek fans) is definitely me.
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It depends entirely, doesn't it Gareth? Sometimes justifications, right or wrong, paint a picture from the poster, that the person interviewing them can not paint. Sometimes it is good to see how someone manipulates truth. Sometimes we are amazed at honesty from a place of dark deceit.
But hey you "don't recall"? Let me help you with at least one instance and we can work from there.
You supported the lie that Amy sprouted publicly that Rossco was organising a group of people to attack Amy and yourself. That was of course Bullshit, but Amy endorsed it publicly. Rossco always went straight to the source of the problem, Amy, at every instance without organising anything with any one. Also without involving himself in things like the gagging avatar thing or whatever. This is whilst you were doing your best to distance yourself from any direct involvement.
When Rossco was banned this was the reason given, that he was the ringleader to these actions. She stated she had proof given by Pm but could not publish it. This too was bullshit as there was no proof, because there was no truth behind the allegation. It was just a sneaky manipulative lie that she could tell, whilst pretending to hide behind the good form of allowing the non-existent "whistleblower" anonimity
There was no whistleblower. No Pm. Just a very angry lady, to whom you are married, wanting to force her will and make a somewhat plausible smear and ban on Rossco. She was prepared to lie to get it.
Whatever I say here in response I know you will not believe or respect unless it's "you are completely 100% right", with that disclaimer out of the way however:
Rossco was indeed encouraging people to cause trouble or protest in some way Amy's actions and given how much both of us have put into getting this community (AFF) off the ground (even if you think it's one we apparently don't fit into anymore - it wouldn't exist without us) the attacks were just too much.
I admit my very obvious bias as we're talking about my wife here, but I still stand by Amy's decisions at that time based on the attacks we were receiving. Take that as you like.
OK this is 'how i like'. I am/was Rossco and i know i did not organise any attacks and while people whilst i was well aware of different tactics people were doing to let their displeasure known I am not and never was one for subtlety. I went straight to Amy (who i determined as the crux of the problem. I did not seek to encourage anyone.)
If you are rossco then you know rossco's old password at AFF or can access the associated email account. How would you like to verify yourself?
The reason i'm asking is because I need consent before I manually query the database and paste the PMs here. If you think they don't exist then you have nothing to fear and your consent should be forthcoming, right?
I'll respond to the rest of your post after this
I know my old password of course. It is a common password I use at most places I am online. Anything to fear? What are you on about?
Out of interest. (It just occurred to me). Are you posting trying to post evidence from MY Pm's that I was organising the members of AFF in their actions against Amy and yourself? If so that is fine. You won't find any. OR are you atually trying disprove my point in posting Amy's Pm's that she recieved from members showing evidence that I was organising members in actions against you both.
Slight difference. I was arguing the latter. Same result ultimately but the former requires my password details and the latter doesn't. I was making claims on the latter.
I won't ask for your password, I couldn't find it even if I wanted to anyway as our database only stores an MD5 hash. You can tell me the MD5 hash of your old password in private and I can compare it to check.
Then I will ask your consent to open your AFF PMs and post whatever I find here.
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It depends entirely, doesn't it Gareth? Sometimes justifications, right or wrong, paint a picture from the poster, that the person interviewing them can not paint. Sometimes it is good to see how someone manipulates truth. Sometimes we are amazed at honesty from a place of dark deceit.
But hey you "don't recall"? Let me help you with at least one instance and we can work from there.
You supported the lie that Amy sprouted publicly that Rossco was organising a group of people to attack Amy and yourself. That was of course Bullshit, but Amy endorsed it publicly. Rossco always went straight to the source of the problem, Amy, at every instance without organising anything with any one. Also without involving himself in things like the gagging avatar thing or whatever. This is whilst you were doing your best to distance yourself from any direct involvement.
When Rossco was banned this was the reason given, that he was the ringleader to these actions. She stated she had proof given by Pm but could not publish it. This too was bullshit as there was no proof, because there was no truth behind the allegation. It was just a sneaky manipulative lie that she could tell, whilst pretending to hide behind the good form of allowing the non-existent "whistleblower" anonimity
There was no whistleblower. No Pm. Just a very angry lady, to whom you are married, wanting to force her will and make a somewhat plausible smear and ban on Rossco. She was prepared to lie to get it.
Whatever I say here in response I know you will not believe or respect unless it's "you are completely 100% right", with that disclaimer out of the way however:
Rossco was indeed encouraging people to cause trouble or protest in some way Amy's actions and given how much both of us have put into getting this community (AFF) off the ground (even if you think it's one we apparently don't fit into anymore - it wouldn't exist without us) the attacks were just too much.
I admit my very obvious bias as we're talking about my wife here, but I still stand by Amy's decisions at that time based on the attacks we were receiving. Take that as you like.
OK this is 'how i like'. I am/was Rossco and i know i did not organise any attacks and while people whilst i was well aware of different tactics people were doing to let their displeasure known I am not and never was one for subtlety. I went straight to Amy (who i determined as the crux of the problem. I did not seek to encourage anyone.)
If you are rossco then you know rossco's old password at AFF or can access the associated email account. How would you like to verify yourself?
The reason i'm asking is because I need consent before I manually query the database and paste the PMs here. If you think they don't exist then you have nothing to fear and your consent should be forthcoming, right?
I'll respond to the rest of your post after this
I know my old password of course. It is a common password I use at most places I am online. Anything to fear? What are you on about?
Out of interest. (It just occurred to me). Are you posting trying to post evidence from MY Pm's that I was organising the members of AFF in their actions against Amy and yourself? If so that is fine. You won't find any. OR are you atually trying disprove my point in posting Amy's Pm's that she recieved from members showing evidence that I was organising members in actions against you both.
Slight difference. I was arguing the latter. Same result ultimately but the former requires my password details and the latter doesn't. I was making claims on the latter.
I won't ask for your password, I couldn't find it even if I wanted to anyway as our database only stores an MD5 hash. You can tell me the MD5 hash of your old password in private and I can compare it to check.
Then I will ask your consent to open your AFF PMs and post whatever I find here.
I have no idea what the MD5 hash is or even what an MD5 hash is for that matter.
I do think that you are going about this incorrectly. Why?
Your wife stated publicly to all members that she had been PM'ed from someone publicly saying that I was organising members to attack you and Amy.
This is a lie.
Some were certainlyand there was a lot of communication going on. I was privvy to all or most of it I guess. But I chose rather to do my own thing and my own thing was going to the source of the problem...Amy.
What exactly DO you want with my PM's?
The Pm in question is this supposed evidence of me organising members that your wife allegedly recieved with "evidence".
Start there Gareth.
When you do not find the evidence. Then sure you have four choices as i see it. Admit she did lie. fabricate the 'evidence to protect her convenient lie, ignore it and do not seek to follow up on it, or then look through MY Pm's to see if whilst she lied about having evidence whether in truth she had no evidence but I was still a clever ringleader with evidence of my organising skills contained in the Pm's.
Doesn't that make a little more sense to you.
I guess IF you choose to goes the last path it really doesn't help your cause either as there will not be any evidence there either and will leave you will either the big admission of lying, the necessity to fabricate or transparent silence on the matter.
Anything short of the admission thing will have me call you on it though. Just so you know.
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An MD5 hash is one type of cryptographic hash function, also known as a one-way transform.
Basically, you throw data into it, no matter how big or what is in that data and it spits out a unique result which is unique for that data. (This is oversimplified, look on wikipedia for more info).
When storing passwords, we do not store your actual password for security reasons but instead transform it in a certain way that can not be undone (so it's not possible to get your password from the database). When you login, whatever you type at the login form is also transformed in a similar manner and compared.
Here's an example:
Your password is 1234:
password = "1234"
MD5(password) = '81dc9bdb52d04dc20036dbd8313ed055'
login_form_input = "12345"
MD5(login_form_input) = '827ccb0eea8a706c4c34a16891f84e7b'
MD5(login_form_input) == MD5(password)? False
login_form_input = "1234"
MD5(login_form_input) == MD5(password)? True
So by storing only MD5(password) in the database it's possible to check the password on the login form is correct without knowing what the correct password is.
Back on topic.......
I have spent about an hour today looking through PMs (with an automated system greping for anything dodgy, not reading everything due to privacy concerns, the P in PM), I have not found one single PM alone sent by you which caused the problems but i've found many replies to other people referencing events which do not place you in a positive light.
For now however, as I can't locate the evidence I claimed to have i'm forced to remain neutral - this is not me admitting a lie on Amy's part, this is me admitting "I can not find the evidence from 4 years ago". What I have found is insufficient and if I am to be honest I am forced to admit that if this were a legal case i'd be laughed out of court.
I am not going to "admit the lie", because I was there myself at the time, so although I am forced to admit my lack of proof I will not admit to wrongdoing.
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Why don't you just ask Amy to show you the PM she received that accused Rossco of organizing members to attack you? Then you could see what evidence the person who PMed her gave to support this allegation against him, or whether there was any evidence.
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I was wondering just that.
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I'd rather not bother her with digging up that old drama, that's why.
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You're afraid she might go all histrionic on you? :autism:
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I'd rather not bother her with digging up that old drama, that's why.
It seems simpler to ask Amy than doing all this:
I have spent about an hour today looking through PMs (with an automated system greping for anything dodgy, not reading everything due to privacy concerns, the P in PM), I have not found one single PM alone sent by you which caused the problems but i've found many replies to other people referencing events which do not place you in a positive light.
For now however, as I can't locate the evidence I claimed to have i'm forced to remain neutral - this is not me admitting a lie on Amy's part, this is me admitting "I can not find the evidence from 4 years ago". What I have found is insufficient and if I am to be honest I am forced to admit that if this were a legal case i'd be laughed out of court.
I am not going to "admit the lie", because I was there myself at the time, so although I am forced to admit my lack of proof I will not admit to wrongdoing.
I don't have any special knowledge of your situation, but I wonder if someone could have PMed her with some false "evidence" scapegoating Rossco? He's a very direct person so when he says he confronted Amy directly and didn't try to organize people to attack you, that fits.
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This is the whole not following up thing (i think this was the third of the four options i presented you). Smart play Gareth.
Callaway is absolutely right. I am direct and I do not pull punches. I certainly will not be organising others to attack Amy and doing gagged avatars and that kind of bullshit, when the most direct play is going straight at the source.
Furthermore if you DID want to know who was organising all of this it would really come down to two people (if not me) wouldn't it? Think back on who were two of the biggest personalities there at the time. It will be one or the other. It simply was not me.
Ironically most of the people there, even the ones I had fought with, liked me and/or respected me (because i fought fairly and honestly), so I doubt there was any fabricated evidence from another member. IU think it was a convenient lie and smear by Amy.
Callaway is also right. You have spoent a lot of time from the sounds doing your half-hearted investigation when the easiest thing to do would be to ask Amy.
Can we all be completely honest here Gareth?
Can you admit that even were you to exhaust every avenue to finding tht there was no Pm, you would still not admit your wife would lie?
Can you admit that the reason you did this research but not ask her is that she would go "histronic" on you, as Calavera has suggested?"
Can you admit that all I have said, my general personality, the time as it was and your wife's want to get rid of me, and the lack of evidence you can find, really makes it look more than reasonably that i am dead right here?
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Furthermore if you DID want to know who was organising all of this it would really come down to two people (if not me) wouldn't it? Think back on who were two of the biggest personalities there at the time. It will be one or the other. It simply was not me.
Al is Bloke is Rossco.
He was not a ringleader of the "main" protests, he was off doing his own thing - directly to what was viewed as the root of the problem, to talk it out. Yes, Rossco is blunt, he is direct, he doesn't pull his punches - hell, sometimes he's downright rude; But he's not a weasel. If he's ever going to stab you in the back it'll be to your face, to steal from Firefly.
I'll tell you straight up who the main shitstirrer was - Max the Bear.
This is why I didn't ban Bloke when I knew full well he was Rossco; His ban, like my own, Bardwolfs and a few others, were completely unfair and kneejerk - and in the case of Bardwolf and at least one other, I've undone them.
Max the Bear can eat shit, though.
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Also, can we move this somewhere Guests can't see it
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Start another thread with the stuff you don't want guests to see.
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Furthermore if you DID want to know who was organising all of this it would really come down to two people (if not me) wouldn't it? Think back on who were two of the biggest personalities there at the time. It will be one or the other. It simply was not me.
Al is Bloke is Rossco.
He was not a ringleader of the "main" protests, he was off doing his own thing - directly to what was viewed as the root of the problem, to talk it out. Yes, Rossco is blunt, he is direct, he doesn't pull his punches - hell, sometimes he's downright rude; But he's not a weasel. If he's ever going to stab you in the back it'll be to your face, to steal from Firefly.
I'll tell you straight up who the main shitstirrer was - Max the Bear.
This is why I didn't ban Bloke when I knew full well he was Rossco; His ban, like my own, Bardwolfs and a few others, were completely unfair and kneejerk - and in the case of Bardwolf and at least one other, I've undone them.
Max the Bear can eat shit, though.
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Agreed. He is an arsehole.
Thanks Pikajedi.
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What compelled you to ban tambo? Have you not heard of freedom of association?
Not that I give two shits about the guy and I don't trust Autism Speaks, i'm simply playing Devil's Advocate.
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Furthermore if you DID want to know who was organising all of this it would really come down to two people (if not me) wouldn't it? Think back on who were two of the biggest personalities there at the time. It will be one or the other. It simply was not me.
Al is Bloke is Rossco.
He was not a ringleader of the "main" protests, he was off doing his own thing - directly to what was viewed as the root of the problem, to talk it out. Yes, Rossco is blunt, he is direct, he doesn't pull his punches - hell, sometimes he's downright rude; But he's not a weasel. If he's ever going to stab you in the back it'll be to your face, to steal from Firefly.
I'll tell you straight up who the main shitstirrer was - Max the Bear.
This is why I didn't ban Bloke when I knew full well he was Rossco; His ban, like my own, Bardwolfs and a few others, were completely unfair and kneejerk - and in the case of Bardwolf and at least one other, I've undone them.
Max the Bear can eat shit, though.
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Also, can we move this somewhere Guests can't see it
Pikajedi said this to me on MSN too, i'm pretty much forced to go along with it at this point.
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Furthermore if you DID want to know who was organising all of this it would really come down to two people (if not me) wouldn't it? Think back on who were two of the biggest personalities there at the time. It will be one or the other. It simply was not me.
Al is Bloke is Rossco.
He was not a ringleader of the "main" protests, he was off doing his own thing - directly to what was viewed as the root of the problem, to talk it out. Yes, Rossco is blunt, he is direct, he doesn't pull his punches - hell, sometimes he's downright rude; But he's not a weasel. If he's ever going to stab you in the back it'll be to your face, to steal from Firefly.
I'll tell you straight up who the main shitstirrer was - Max the Bear.
This is why I didn't ban Bloke when I knew full well he was Rossco; His ban, like my own, Bardwolfs and a few others, were completely unfair and kneejerk - and in the case of Bardwolf and at least one other, I've undone them.
Max the Bear can eat shit, though.
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Pikajedi said this to me on MSN too, i'm pretty much forced to go along with it at this point.
Wow. that was kind of unexpected. Well Gareth, you just got karma.
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The third virtue is lightness. Let the winds of evidence blow you about as though you are a leaf, with no direction of your own. Beware lest you fight a rearguard retreat against the evidence, grudgingly conceding each foot of ground only when forced, feeling cheated. Surrender to the truth as quickly as you can. Do this the instant you realize what you are resisting; the instant you can see from which quarter the winds of evidence are blowing against you. Be faithless to your cause and betray it to a stronger enemy. If you regard evidence as a constraint and seek to free yourself, you sell yourself into the chains of your whims. For you cannot make a true map of a city by sitting in your bedroom with your eyes shut and drawing lines upon paper according to impulse. You must walk through the city and draw lines on paper that correspond to what you see. If, seeing the city unclearly, you think that you can shift a line just a little to the right, just a little to the left, according to your caprice, this is just the same mistake.
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Furthermore if you DID want to know who was organising all of this it would really come down to two people (if not me) wouldn't it? Think back on who were two of the biggest personalities there at the time. It will be one or the other. It simply was not me.
Al is Bloke is Rossco.
He was not a ringleader of the "main" protests, he was off doing his own thing - directly to what was viewed as the root of the problem, to talk it out. Yes, Rossco is blunt, he is direct, he doesn't pull his punches - hell, sometimes he's downright rude; But he's not a weasel. If he's ever going to stab you in the back it'll be to your face, to steal from Firefly.
I'll tell you straight up who the main shitstirrer was - Max the Bear.
This is why I didn't ban Bloke when I knew full well he was Rossco; His ban, like my own, Bardwolfs and a few others, were completely unfair and kneejerk - and in the case of Bardwolf and at least one other, I've undone them.
Max the Bear can eat shit, though.
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Also, can we move this somewhere Guests can't see it
I could move it to the Sin Bin so Gareth could still access it.
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What compelled you to ban tambo? Have you not heard of freedom of association?
Not that I give two shits about the guy and I don't trust Autism Speaks, i'm simply playing Devil's Advocate.
I would say astroturfing by promoting a organisation he got paid from doesn't quite count and is legit as a bannable offence. The way the articles were worded and presented intentionally gave an illusion of impartiality and popular opinion. Hell, that's why I attacked him. He was trying to play people for chumps.
I know, not my question, but I guess that's kind of why.
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less chit chat more dick pics
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Basically he presented himself as a neutral journalist when he wasn't
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less chit chat more dick pics
Here's some dick pics - :Dickhead: :penis: :pee: :vader: :tooledup: :jedi:
Now, where's the :bounce: ?
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:booty: :cfm: :dominatrix: :bath: :titfuck: :3some: :flowersex: :missionary: :dick: :squit: :bonban: :sex?: :poopy: :afterglow: :handjob: :bunny love:
Just wanted to use those smilies
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:booty: :cfm: :dominatrix: :bath: :titfuck: :3some: :flowersex: :missionary: :dick: :squit: :bonban: :sex?: :poopy: :afterglow: :handjob: :bunny love:
Just wanted to use those smilies
The smilies are what drew me in too. Aren't they great? :cheer:
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Here's a very old question, which kind of bugged me at the time. I think that this was probably back in 2004-2005. Why did you lock an alphabet game thread that Ozymandias started when there were lots of other game threads that other people started that weren't locked?
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thank you !!!
If you stick around, you will soon come to learn I have a sort of, um, obsession with the male gender.
Here are some tits
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:booty: :cfm: :dominatrix: :bath: :titfuck: :3some: :flowersex: :missionary: :dick: :squit: :bonban: :sex?: :poopy: :afterglow: :handjob: :bunny love:
Just wanted to use those smilies
You have officially come over to the Dark Side, young Gareth. Here is your light saber. :vader:
P. S. don't believe Adam when he say's I'm fair target practice for the light saber. He thinks he doesn't like the monarchy, but I think he does, deep down inside.
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Here's a very old question, which kind of bugged me at the time. I think that this was probably back in 2004-2005. Why did you lock an alphabet game thread that Ozymandias started when there were lots of other game threads that other people started that weren't locked?
It was getting absolutely huge and the database was suffering, since then we switched hosting to better servers.
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Here's a very old question, which kind of bugged me at the time. I think that this was probably back in 2004-2005. Why did you lock an alphabet game thread that Ozymandias started when there were lots of other game threads that other people started that weren't locked?
It was getting absolutely huge and the database was suffering, since then we switched hosting to better servers.
I remember that it was very popular when it was started, so that makes sense that it grew huge very quickly.
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Here's a very old question, which kind of bugged me at the time. I think that this was probably back in 2004-2005. Why did you lock an alphabet game thread that Ozymandias started when there were lots of other game threads that other people started that weren't locked?
It was getting absolutely huge and the database was suffering, since then we switched hosting to better servers.
I remember that it was very popular when it was started, so that makes sense that it grew huge very quickly.
I thought it remarkable that it was even remembered, by either of you!
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zippo's or colibri?
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Here's a very old question, which kind of bugged me at the time. I think that this was probably back in 2004-2005. Why did you lock an alphabet game thread that Ozymandias started when there were lots of other game threads that other people started that weren't locked?
It was getting absolutely huge and the database was suffering, since then we switched hosting to better servers.
I remember that it was very popular when it was started, so that makes sense that it grew huge very quickly.
I thought it remarkable that it was even remembered, by either of you!
I thought that Gareth might not remember what on Earth I was talking about but I'm glad that he did.
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Here's a very old question, which kind of bugged me at the time. I think that this was probably back in 2004-2005. Why did you lock an alphabet game thread that Ozymandias started when there were lots of other game threads that other people started that weren't locked?
It was getting absolutely huge and the database was suffering, since then we switched hosting to better servers.
I remember that it was very popular when it was started, so that makes sense that it grew huge very quickly.
I thought it remarkable that it was even remembered, by either of you!
I thought that Gareth might not remember what on Earth I was talking about but I'm glad that he did.
I suppose a thread that causes database errors due to sheer size is noteworthy and memorable.
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The "when did you stop beating your wife" thing is a classic analogy for a leading question - it's not meant to refer to literal beatings.
If the person answers with a time, they admit they did beat their wife. If the person answers they're still doing it, they ALSO admit they're beating their wife currently. If I tell you why i'm allegedly prepared to treat people with contempt, I admit I treat them with contempt.
The same could go for Amy - when did she stop beating her wife? (ooh, kinky - might have to ask her actually)
Referenced that question to a friend once, who immediately and quite cheerfully replied "I didn't stop!" (Would've won me a bet, but it was a predictable enough answer that nobody would bet against it.)
:include:
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zippo or colibri?
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This is the whole not following up thing (i think this was the third of the four options i presented you). Smart play Gareth.
Callaway is absolutely right. I am direct and I do not pull punches. I certainly will not be organising others to attack Amy and doing gagged avatars and that kind of bullshit, when the most direct play is going straight at the source.
Furthermore if you DID want to know who was organising all of this it would really come down to two people (if not me) wouldn't it? Think back on who were two of the biggest personalities there at the time. It will be one or the other. It simply was not me.
Ironically most of the people there, even the ones I had fought with, liked me and/or respected me (because i fought fairly and honestly), so I doubt there was any fabricated evidence from another member. IU think it was a convenient lie and smear by Amy.
Callaway is also right. You have spoent a lot of time from the sounds doing your half-hearted investigation when the easiest thing to do would be to ask Amy.
Can we all be completely honest here Gareth?
Can you admit that even were you to exhaust every avenue to finding tht there was no Pm, you would still not admit your wife would lie?
Can you admit that the reason you did this research but not ask her is that she would go "histronic" on you, as Calavera has suggested?"
Can you admit that all I have said, my general personality, the time as it was and your wife's want to get rid of me, and the lack of evidence you can find, really makes it look more than reasonably that i am dead right here?
I would guess that particular matter was orchestrated by Max The Bear or Evil Zakkie. With Grumpy as an interested bystander ( werent we all?)
Which is why I felt that Bloke was one of those two at one time,Just my rememberances from that time period
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Like this :zoinks:
PIE FIGHT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9EKglord5s#)
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This is the whole not following up thing (i think this was the third of the four options i presented you). Smart play Gareth.
Callaway is absolutely right. I am direct and I do not pull punches. I certainly will not be organising others to attack Amy and doing gagged avatars and that kind of bullshit, when the most direct play is going straight at the source.
Furthermore if you DID want to know who was organising all of this it would really come down to two people (if not me) wouldn't it? Think back on who were two of the biggest personalities there at the time. It will be one or the other. It simply was not me.
Ironically most of the people there, even the ones I had fought with, liked me and/or respected me (because i fought fairly and honestly), so I doubt there was any fabricated evidence from another member. IU think it was a convenient lie and smear by Amy.
Callaway is also right. You have spoent a lot of time from the sounds doing your half-hearted investigation when the easiest thing to do would be to ask Amy.
Can we all be completely honest here Gareth?
Can you admit that even were you to exhaust every avenue to finding tht there was no Pm, you would still not admit your wife would lie?
Can you admit that the reason you did this research but not ask her is that she would go "histronic" on you, as Calavera has suggested?"
Can you admit that all I have said, my general personality, the time as it was and your wife's want to get rid of me, and the lack of evidence you can find, really makes it look more than reasonably that i am dead right here?
I would guess that particular matter was orchestrated by Max The Bear or Evil Zakkie. With Grumpy as an interested bystander ( werent we all?)
Which is why I felt that Bloke was one of those two at one time,Just my rememberances from that time period
Pretty much right Skyblue.
I was an interested bystander. Actually bit more than interested. I was privvy to the PM's and such just did not partake or organise anything. I was actively after my own style of resolution through Amy (who I saw as the problem). What I did not do is colude or organise anything. I am a little bit too unsophisticated for subtlety. Why do gagged avatars and stay of posting measures and the like when you can go straight to the heart of the matter?
To be accused of this is not only out of character to what anyone knows of me, but a lie. A rather transparent and blatant one.
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This is the whole not following up thing (i think this was the third of the four options i presented you). Smart play Gareth.
Callaway is absolutely right. I am direct and I do not pull punches. I certainly will not be organising others to attack Amy and doing gagged avatars and that kind of bullshit, when the most direct play is going straight at the source.
Furthermore if you DID want to know who was organising all of this it would really come down to two people (if not me) wouldn't it? Think back on who were two of the biggest personalities there at the time. It will be one or the other. It simply was not me.
Ironically most of the people there, even the ones I had fought with, liked me and/or respected me (because i fought fairly and honestly), so I doubt there was any fabricated evidence from another member. IU think it was a convenient lie and smear by Amy.
Callaway is also right. You have spoent a lot of time from the sounds doing your half-hearted investigation when the easiest thing to do would be to ask Amy.
Can we all be completely honest here Gareth?
Can you admit that even were you to exhaust every avenue to finding tht there was no Pm, you would still not admit your wife would lie?
Can you admit that the reason you did this research but not ask her is that she would go "histronic" on you, as Calavera has suggested?"
Can you admit that all I have said, my general personality, the time as it was and your wife's want to get rid of me, and the lack of evidence you can find, really makes it look more than reasonably that i am dead right here?
I would guess that particular matter was orchestrated by Max The Bear or Evil Zakkie. With Grumpy as an interested bystander ( werent we all?)
Which is why I felt that Bloke was one of those two at one time,Just my rememberances from that time period
Pretty much right Skyblue.
I was an interested bystander. Actually bit more than interested. I was privvy to the PM's and such just did not partake or organise anything. I was actively after my own style of resolution through Amy (who I saw as the problem). What I did not do is colude or organise anything. I am a little bit too unsophisticated for subtlety. Why do gagged avatars and stay of posting measures and the like when you can go straight to the heart of the matter?
To be accused of this is not only out of character to what anyone knows of me, but a lie. A rather transparent and blatant one.
I just read this thread because I have heard of Gareth and AFF but Al Swearengen you need to get over something that happened 4 years ago on an internet forum, as mentioned.
Gareth, what was the goal of Aspies For Freedom?
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^I think Sir Les (Al Swearengen) is just getting a clearer story of what happened 4 years ago, it does seem a bit mixed up to me.
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I do not see a valid reason for being very upset about something that happened on an Aspie forum 4 years ago. I am surprised someone can remember all these minute details of an incident that happened on said forum.
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This is the whole not following up thing (i think this was the third of the four options i presented you). Smart play Gareth.
Callaway is absolutely right. I am direct and I do not pull punches. I certainly will not be organising others to attack Amy and doing gagged avatars and that kind of bullshit, when the most direct play is going straight at the source.
Furthermore if you DID want to know who was organising all of this it would really come down to two people (if not me) wouldn't it? Think back on who were two of the biggest personalities there at the time. It will be one or the other. It simply was not me.
Ironically most of the people there, even the ones I had fought with, liked me and/or respected me (because i fought fairly and honestly), so I doubt there was any fabricated evidence from another member. IU think it was a convenient lie and smear by Amy.
Callaway is also right. You have spoent a lot of time from the sounds doing your half-hearted investigation when the easiest thing to do would be to ask Amy.
Can we all be completely honest here Gareth?
Can you admit that even were you to exhaust every avenue to finding tht there was no Pm, you would still not admit your wife would lie?
Can you admit that the reason you did this research but not ask her is that she would go "histronic" on you, as Calavera has suggested?"
Can you admit that all I have said, my general personality, the time as it was and your wife's want to get rid of me, and the lack of evidence you can find, really makes it look more than reasonably that i am dead right here?
I would guess that particular matter was orchestrated by Max The Bear or Evil Zakkie. With Grumpy as an interested bystander ( werent we all?)
Which is why I felt that Bloke was one of those two at one time,Just my rememberances from that time period
Pretty much right Skyblue.
I was an interested bystander. Actually bit more than interested. I was privvy to the PM's and such just did not partake or organise anything. I was actively after my own style of resolution through Amy (who I saw as the problem). What I did not do is colude or organise anything. I am a little bit too unsophisticated for subtlety. Why do gagged avatars and stay of posting measures and the like when you can go straight to the heart of the matter?
To be accused of this is not only out of character to what anyone knows of me, but a lie. A rather transparent and blatant one.
I just read this thread because I have heard of Gareth and AFF but Al Swearengen you need to get over something that happened 4 years ago on an internet forum, as mentioned.
Gareth, what was the goal of Aspies For Freedom?
Hello Newbie.
Did you see the thread title? No? What was i doing? Perhaps before you waddle in here and make proclamations you should.
That said, welcome aboard newbie. If you hang aroundI am sure we will have many interesting chats and you may come to know me a little. Then be in a position to make judgments on my state of mind or what I do or don't need to get over.
Can't wait.
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I do not recall making any proclamations. Stating my opinion and suggestions for you on the matter is not a proclamation.
Does Gareth come on here ever?
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Does Gareth come on here ever?
Have you read the thread?
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Does Gareth come on here ever?
Have you read the thread?
Yes, have you?
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Does Gareth come on here ever?
Have you read the thread?
I doubt he has. I doubt he knows enought to make an informed opinion. His right of course to say whatever irrelevant thing to pop inside his head. Doesn't mean it is not irrelevant though.
Emile. I am not mad and I enjoy putting this out there and seeing how Gareth responds. I gave him karma for it.
I have a decent memory and like a fight or argument. You know this because ytou have seen enough to venture an informed....oh no you haven't :autism:
Basically Gareth an Admin who has JUST come to this site asked to have stuff thrown at him, I helped in this regard. I am a charitable soul at heart. Anyone will tell you that.
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Does Gareth come on here ever?
Have you read the thread?
Yes, have you?
If you had actually read the thread, you would know that Gareth started it and you would also know when he last posted in it.
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Does Gareth come on here ever?
Have you read the thread?
Yes, have you?
If you had actually read the thread, you would know that Gareth started it and you would also know when he last posted in it.
I am fully aware of that. What makes you believe that I am not aware of that?
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Does Gareth come on here ever?
Have you read the thread?
I doubt he has. I doubt he knows enought to make an informed opinion. His right of course to say whatever irrelevant thing to pop inside his head. Doesn't mean it is not irrelevant though.
Emile. I am not mad and I enjoy putting this out there and seeing how Gareth responds. I gave him karma for it.
I have a decent memory and like a fight or argument. You know this because ytou have seen enough to venture an informed....oh no you haven't :autism:
Basically Gareth an Admin who has JUST come to this site asked to have stuff thrown at him, I helped in this regard. I am a charitable soul at heart. Anyone will tell you that.
No offense, but you could have summed that up in one sentence. There is no need to write a lot when it is not needed.
Anyways, nice to meet you :)
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Does Gareth come on here ever?
Have you read the thread?
Yes, have you?
If you had actually read the thread, you would know that Gareth started it and you would also know when he last posted in it.
I am fully aware of that. What makes you believe that I am not aware of that?
Does Gareth come on here ever?
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You are not that clever. He has not been in this thread for 4 days.
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You are not that clever. He has not been in this thread for 4 days.
Right, that's because he's been busy over at AFF. He is reading the thread, though; You would do well to not assume that posting is the same as "being in".
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I am not a member of AFF. I do not keep track of what people are doing on this website, whether they are just browsing or not.
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I do not keep track of what people are doing on this website, whether they are just browsing or not.
Then you should not state that people have not been present with such authority.
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Point to where I made that statement.
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Point to where I made that statement.
:orly:
You are not that clever. He has not been in this thread for 4 days.
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Does Gareth come on here ever?
Have you read the thread?
I doubt he has. I doubt he knows enought to make an informed opinion. His right of course to say whatever irrelevant thing to pop inside his head. Doesn't mean it is not irrelevant though.
Emile. I am not mad and I enjoy putting this out there and seeing how Gareth responds. I gave him karma for it.
I have a decent memory and like a fight or argument. You know this because ytou have seen enough to venture an informed....oh no you haven't :autism:
Basically Gareth an Admin who has JUST come to this site asked to have stuff thrown at him, I helped in this regard. I am a charitable soul at heart. Anyone will tell you that.
No offense, but you could have summed that up in one sentence. There is no need to write a lot when it is not needed.
Anyways, nice to meet you :)
That is sheer genius. No one ever thought to suggest that to him. I'm sure he'll send you a nice brief thank you note and start being succinct. BWAHAHAHAAHHHAHAAAAA
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You are not that clever. He has not been in this thread for 4 days.
You sounded like Buttcoffee here.
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Yup, he is a troll.
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Does Gareth come on here ever?
Have you read the thread?
I doubt he has. I doubt he knows enought to make an informed opinion. His right of course to say whatever irrelevant thing to pop inside his head. Doesn't mean it is not irrelevant though.
Emile. I am not mad and I enjoy putting this out there and seeing how Gareth responds. I gave him karma for it.
I have a decent memory and like a fight or argument. You know this because ytou have seen enough to venture an informed....oh no you haven't :autism:
Basically Gareth an Admin who has JUST come to this site asked to have stuff thrown at him, I helped in this regard. I am a charitable soul at heart. Anyone will tell you that.
No offense, but you could have summed that up in one sentence. There is no need to write a lot when it is not needed.
Anyways, nice to meet you :)
No offence taken.
I like uninformed opinions. I also like people that are able to laugh at themselves and have others laugh at them. You seem to generate the latter and I can only presume do plenty of the former. I think you will fit in just fine.
Out of interest, one sentence could have summed it all up?
Which sentence should I have kept?
The one saying that you were blatantly uniformed (or oblivious) and irrelevant?
The one saying I like an argument?
The one denoting my charitable nature and explainig Gareth's desire here?
At minimum I see three..
Ah see this answer is longer. Brevity and succinct do not register with me. I prefer long, drawn out and flowery.
Stick around and I will let you know who is who here. (My charitable nature again) ;)
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I2, the scrapyard of the autistic community. Why is it that autie drama is always redirected here?
Laugh all you want but this directs quite a few members that wouldnt normally care for this place here.
Even Dw_A_mum has an account to see some of the secret sections(dont know which but she has approached me about things that were said on peanut gallery...)
Welcome gareth
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I2, the scrapyard of the autistic community. Why is it that autie drama is always redirected here?
Laugh all you want but this directs quite a few members that wouldnt normally care for this place here.
Even Dw_A_mum has an account to see some of the secret sections(dont know which but she has approached me about things that were said on peanut gallery...)
Welcome gareth
Not laughing. It's what it is.
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I2, the scrapyard of the autistic community. Why is it that autie drama is always redirected here?
Laugh all you want but this directs quite a few members that wouldnt normally care for this place here.
Even Dw_A_mum has an account to see some of the secret sections(dont know which but she has approached me about things that were said on peanut gallery...)
Welcome gareth
Peanut Gallery? What would be so special there?
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I2, the scrapyard of the autistic community. Why is it that autie drama is always redirected here?
Laugh all you want but this directs quite a few members that wouldnt normally care for this place here.
Even Dw_A_mum has an account to see some of the secret sections(dont know which but she has approached me about things that were said on peanut gallery...)
Welcome gareth
Peanut Gallery? What would be so special there?
Nothing special but its non viewable to guests if Im not mistaken so in order to talk about whats being said there she has to have an account.
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Point to where I made that statement.
:orly:
You are not that clever. He has not been in this thread for 4 days.
I asked you a question. You have refused to give a response other than the "orly" response. Do you normally need others to answer for you? Can you not come up with your own conclusion on your own? We shall wait for others to answer so you can answer.
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He did show you as per your want by posting the quote where you said he has not been here for 4 days. He HAS in fact been here but has not posted. Two entirely different things. So he showed you this.
Now here is a question. Who is your favourite troll?
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Point to where I made that statement.
:orly:
You are not that clever. He has not been in this thread for 4 days.
I asked you a question. You have refused to give a response other than the "orly" response. Do you normally need others to answer for you? Can you not come up with your own conclusion on your own? We shall wait for others to answer so you can answer.
Apparently reading comprehension, reasoning and logic are not your strong suits. Hint; I answered your question with your own words. :wanker:
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zippo or colibri?
err, zippo?
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This is the whole not following up thing (i think this was the third of the four options i presented you). Smart play Gareth.
Callaway is absolutely right. I am direct and I do not pull punches. I certainly will not be organising others to attack Amy and doing gagged avatars and that kind of bullshit, when the most direct play is going straight at the source.
Furthermore if you DID want to know who was organising all of this it would really come down to two people (if not me) wouldn't it? Think back on who were two of the biggest personalities there at the time. It will be one or the other. It simply was not me.
Ironically most of the people there, even the ones I had fought with, liked me and/or respected me (because i fought fairly and honestly), so I doubt there was any fabricated evidence from another member. IU think it was a convenient lie and smear by Amy.
Callaway is also right. You have spoent a lot of time from the sounds doing your half-hearted investigation when the easiest thing to do would be to ask Amy.
Can we all be completely honest here Gareth?
Can you admit that even were you to exhaust every avenue to finding tht there was no Pm, you would still not admit your wife would lie?
Can you admit that the reason you did this research but not ask her is that she would go "histronic" on you, as Calavera has suggested?"
Can you admit that all I have said, my general personality, the time as it was and your wife's want to get rid of me, and the lack of evidence you can find, really makes it look more than reasonably that i am dead right here?
I would guess that particular matter was orchestrated by Max The Bear or Evil Zakkie. With Grumpy as an interested bystander ( werent we all?)
Which is why I felt that Bloke was one of those two at one time,Just my rememberances from that time period
Pretty much right Skyblue.
I was an interested bystander. Actually bit more than interested. I was privvy to the PM's and such just did not partake or organise anything. I was actively after my own style of resolution through Amy (who I saw as the problem). What I did not do is colude or organise anything. I am a little bit too unsophisticated for subtlety. Why do gagged avatars and stay of posting measures and the like when you can go straight to the heart of the matter?
To be accused of this is not only out of character to what anyone knows of me, but a lie. A rather transparent and blatant one.
I just read this thread because I have heard of Gareth and AFF but Al Swearengen you need to get over something that happened 4 years ago on an internet forum, as mentioned.
Gareth, what was the goal of Aspies For Freedom?
Originally, to get autism rights activism to go offline by encouraging offline local groups - that didn't have anywhere near the success I hoped for.
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I do not recall making any proclamations. Stating my opinion and suggestions for you on the matter is not a proclamation.
Does Gareth come on here ever?
Yes, sometimes
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He did show you as per your want by posting the quote where you said he has not been here for 4 days. He HAS in fact been here but has not posted. Two entirely different things. So he showed you this.
Now here is a question. Who is your favourite troll?
The one from the philosopher's stone that was in the dungeon
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He did show you as per your want by posting the quote where you said he has not been here for 4 days. He HAS in fact been here but has not posted. Two entirely different things. So he showed you this.
Now here is a question. Who is your favourite troll?
The one from the philosopher's stone that was in the dungeon
HAH! harry potter referance! why do i know that?
ZIPPO OR COLIBRI!?
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zippo or colibri?
err, zippo?
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zippo or colibri?
err, zippo?
good answer. i have both myself but the only colibri is my grandfathers. it was one of his wedding presents...
rip john a. sabbagh
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Only problem with the word Zippo is that it reminds me of Zippocat. That poor cat. :(
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This is the whole not following up thing (i think this was the third of the four options i presented you). Smart play Gareth.
Callaway is absolutely right. I am direct and I do not pull punches. I certainly will not be organising others to attack Amy and doing gagged avatars and that kind of bullshit, when the most direct play is going straight at the source.
Furthermore if you DID want to know who was organising all of this it would really come down to two people (if not me) wouldn't it? Think back on who were two of the biggest personalities there at the time. It will be one or the other. It simply was not me.
Ironically most of the people there, even the ones I had fought with, liked me and/or respected me (because i fought fairly and honestly), so I doubt there was any fabricated evidence from another member. IU think it was a convenient lie and smear by Amy.
Callaway is also right. You have spoent a lot of time from the sounds doing your half-hearted investigation when the easiest thing to do would be to ask Amy.
Can we all be completely honest here Gareth?
Can you admit that even were you to exhaust every avenue to finding tht there was no Pm, you would still not admit your wife would lie?
Can you admit that the reason you did this research but not ask her is that she would go "histronic" on you, as Calavera has suggested?"
Can you admit that all I have said, my general personality, the time as it was and your wife's want to get rid of me, and the lack of evidence you can find, really makes it look more than reasonably that i am dead right here?
I would guess that particular matter was orchestrated by Max The Bear or Evil Zakkie. With Grumpy as an interested bystander ( werent we all?)
Which is why I felt that Bloke was one of those two at one time,Just my rememberances from that time period
Pretty much right Skyblue.
I was an interested bystander. Actually bit more than interested. I was privvy to the PM's and such just did not partake or organise anything. I was actively after my own style of resolution through Amy (who I saw as the problem). What I did not do is colude or organise anything. I am a little bit too unsophisticated for subtlety. Why do gagged avatars and stay of posting measures and the like when you can go straight to the heart of the matter?
To be accused of this is not only out of character to what anyone knows of me, but a lie. A rather transparent and blatant one.
I just read this thread because I have heard of Gareth and AFF but Al Swearengen you need to get over something that happened 4 years ago on an internet forum, as mentioned.
Gareth, what was the goal of Aspies For Freedom?
Originally, to get autism rights activism to go offline by encouraging offline local groups - that didn't have anywhere near the success I hoped for.
We're pretty redundant now, due to the ASAN and NAS. ASAN is everything we wanted to be, amirite?
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I've said so many times that ASAN succeeded where AFF failed, and i'm pleased that such an honourable bunch were the ones to "win".
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Laugh all you want but this directs quite a few members that wouldnt normally care for this place here.
Even Dw_A_mum has an account to see some of the secret sections(dont know which but she has approached me about things that were said on peanut gallery...)
Nice. Did you two get into it? Why are you outing her otherwise?
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What would you response be to the suggestion that AFF is/was a place with "militant aspies who were exceedingly anti-neurotypical"?
Not necessarily my opinion (I never went to AFF myself), but I'm curious what your thoughts are on that.
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What would you response be to the suggestion that AFF is/was a place with "militant aspies who were exceedingly anti-neurotypical"?
Not necessarily my opinion (I never went to AFF myself), but I'm curious what your thoughts are on that.
I'm not Gareth, but I'm an admin over there;
We've always had a problem with people coming over and bashing NTs and having the whole superiority thing going on.
I've always done my best to defuse that, and I have in fact banned people for doing it.
As for "militant", that depends on your interpretation of the word. We're pretty militant towards the JRC, for example, though I'm sure you'll not begrudge us that.
Personally, I want to burn that place to the ground and piss on the ashes, preferably with the staff and founders inside.
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No idea what JRC is...
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No idea what JRC is...
Judge Rotenburg Centre.
Here, have a read for yourself (http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthread.php?tid=4033), see if you agree with our...distaste for the place.
tl;dr version; They shock kids and withhold food for stuff like being a bit scruffy, fidgeting, stopping work for a second...
Basically stuff that'd be illegal to do to normal prisoners, to POW or to animals.
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Eeek....
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Eeek....
If you actually do click through (and I think you did if you're in Australia, since somebody popped up from there reading it), be warned that you'll probably want to punch a kitten after reading it.
Fuck the JRC. :finger:
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I'd never wilfully punch a kitten. And yeah I'm an Aussie.
You actually know me from Spectrumites (Saeihr)
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What would you response be to the suggestion that AFF is/was a place with "militant aspies who were exceedingly anti-neurotypical"?
Not necessarily my opinion (I never went to AFF myself), but I'm curious what your thoughts are on that.
(http://www.oshonews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/lol.gif)
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So you don't necessarily agree? :P
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Hehe nice response
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I'd never wilfully punch a kitten. And yeah I'm an Aussie.
You actually know me from Spectrumites (Saeihr)
oooh, gotcha.
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What would you response be to the suggestion that AFF is/was a place with "militant aspies who were exceedingly anti-neurotypical"?
Not necessarily my opinion (I never went to AFF myself), but I'm curious what your thoughts are on that.
I'm not Gareth, but I'm an admin over there;
We've always had a problem with people coming over and bashing NTs and having the whole superiority thing going on.
I've always done my best to defuse that, and I have in fact banned people for doing it.
As for "militant", that depends on your interpretation of the word. We're pretty militant towards the JRC, for example, though I'm sure you'll not begrudge us that.
Personally, I want to burn that place to the ground and piss on the ashes, preferably with the staff and founders inside.
I would help hide evidence to such an act :)
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Originally, to get autism rights activism to go offline by encouraging offline local groups - that didn't have anywhere near the success I hoped for.
Thanks. Autism rights in a certain country?
Sorry it did not work out for you. People with Asperger's just enjoy using these forums to argue about the most asinine things, as I am sure you are aware of.
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Eeek....
If you actually do click through (and I think you did if you're in Australia, since somebody popped up from there reading it), be warned that you'll probably want to punch a kitten after reading it.
Fuck the JRC. :finger:
i support the JRC.
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Originally, to get autism rights activism to go offline by encouraging offline local groups - that didn't have anywhere near the success I hoped for.
Thanks. Autism rights in a certain country?
Sorry it did not work out for you. People with Asperger's just enjoy using these forums to argue about the most asinine things, as I am sure you are aware of.
I'm not sure what you mean by "in a certain country", but the general goal of AFF was to encourage people to setup local groups in their own geographical location (which would mean multiple countries of course) and to use these groups for a blend of both autism rights activism and aspie-friendly socialising without the regular "support group" mentality.
So far as the activism side of things, ASAN has done well there and i'm extremely pleased to see someone doing the important work even if I can't take credit for it myself.
I am unaware of any significant offline groups for "aspie-friendly socialisation" outside of common interest groups that happen to have a lot of aspies attending (sci-fi fandom groups such as trekkies come to mind here as a very aspie-ish thing).
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I am unaware of any significant offline groups for "aspie-friendly socialisation" outside of common interest groups that happen to have a lot of aspies attending (sci-fi fandom groups such as trekkies come to mind here as a very aspie-ish thing).
I'm sorry you haven't found any tolerant or like-minded groups to socialise with.
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i support the JRC.
Serious or trolling?
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i support the JRC.
Serious or trolling?
Trolling. (This is the guy that calls everyone out when bored over fuck all. Kind of like Adam does but without the boring)
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i support the JRC.
Jersey Refried Chicken, mmmm, who couldn't support that? :zoinks:
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Yes, I am thinking he means a different JRC to the one being referred to here.
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i support the JRC.
Serious or trolling?
trollish mood. Long gone now
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i support the JRC.
Jersey Refried Chicken, mmmm, who couldn't support that? :zoinks:
are you black?
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I havent been to AFF for years. But I am grateful to G and A for being welcoming on their site and chat when I first discovered the Internet AS scene in 04/05. Thanks G.
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Did Amy take your virginity, Gareth?
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Is that knees and shorts guy still after you? the scottish guy with straggly hair? I've met him IRL you know. (around 6 years ago.)
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What is happening with Compaq, one of your site's mods. He seems to be getting set up by you guys and accused of doing all sorts.
Is it true or is it lies. Note that Amy DID lie about what she said about me and boldfaced to every member on AFF, is she doing the same with Compaq?
http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthread.php?tid=24065 (http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthread.php?tid=24065)
EDIT: Sorry, you were not responding here so I thought I would take it to AFF for your input. Hope that is OK.
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Did Amy take your virginity, Gareth?
No comment ;)
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Is that knees and shorts guy still after you? the scottish guy with straggly hair? I've met him IRL you know. (around 6 years ago.)
Thankfully not
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Do you really think you can sue anonymous screen names for saying mean things about you on the Internet?
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Gareth,
How did you find it at first when you first started dating Amy. Was it scary or hard to get used to being in a serious relationship. Is there anything you know now you wish you knew then to make things go smoother. (let us benefit from your experience please).
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Gareth,
How did you find it at first when you first started dating Amy. Was it scary or hard to get used to being in a serious relationship. Is there anything you know now you wish you knew then to make things go smoother. (let us benefit from your experience please).
Oh yes. Because what worked for him in landing a woman will obviously solve your virginity problem. This place has become WP squared lately.
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Do you really think you can sue anonymous screen names for saying mean things about you on the Internet?
No, to my knowledge i've never attempted to - is there some alternate Gareth who has? What's life like in that alternate dimension?
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Gareth,
How did you find it at first when you first started dating Amy. Was it scary or hard to get used to being in a serious relationship. Is there anything you know now you wish you knew then to make things go smoother. (let us benefit from your experience please).
Oh yes. Because what worked for him in landing a woman will obviously solve your virginity problem. This place has become WP squared lately.
I must admit I lol'ed
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My last memory of AFF was you saying you were drinking a protein milkshake. Have you ever put on any muscle?
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Do you really think you can sue anonymous screen names for saying mean things about you on the Internet?
The devil are you talking about?
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Do you really think you can sue anonymous screen names for saying mean things about you on the Internet?
The devil are you talking about?
Guessing it relates to this "Honestly, i've heard the accusations against amy (they were posted on wrongplanet) and they were quite simply just nasty, if they continue then personally i'll be looking into a defamation lawsuit."
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Thats about Amy tho not him. He said he wouldnt sue anyone talking about him.
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Thats about Amy tho not him. He said he wouldnt sue anyone talking about him.
Maybe I am not the person who posted it and i think this is what he was referring to. As to the who may or may not sue whom and orver what? Dont iknow if I care too much.
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My last memory of AFF was you saying you were drinking a protein milkshake. Have you ever put on any muscle?
I have a lot of difficulty gaining muscle mass - if I drink protein shakes and so on and keep to it, I can build up mass nicely, but it goes away so quickly that it's hardly worth it.
I've had the exact same problems. Thats why it stuck out in my mind you saying it. I just want to be as strong as I realistically can without obsessivley eating/working out all day. I need a life too as well as toughening up!
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Thats about Amy tho not him. He said he wouldnt sue anyone talking about him.
Ok, let me rephrase. Do you really think you can sue anonymous screen names for saying mean things about your woman on the Internet?
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Thats about Amy tho not him. He said he wouldnt sue anyone talking about him.
Ok, let me rephrase. Do you really think you can sue anonymous screen names for saying mean things about your woman on the Internet?
Malicious Communications Act 1998.
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Thats about Amy tho not him. He said he wouldnt sue anyone talking about him.
Ok, let me rephrase. Do you really think you can sue anonymous screen names for saying mean things about your woman on the Internet?
Malicious Communications Act 1998.
Awww, that's sweet of you. Can't he speak for himself?
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Thats about Amy tho not him. He said he wouldnt sue anyone talking about him.
Ok, let me rephrase. Do you really think you can sue anonymous screen names for saying mean things about your woman on the Internet?
Malicious Communications Act 1998.
Awww, that's sweet of you. Can't he speak for himself?
No need to quite so hostile; Gareth will likely offer a longer version of that same answer.
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Thats about Amy tho not him. He said he wouldnt sue anyone talking about him.
Ok, let me rephrase. Do you really think you can sue anonymous screen names for saying mean things about your woman on the Internet?
Malicious Communications Act 1998.
Awww, that's sweet of you. Can't he speak for himself?
No need to quite so hostile; Gareth will likely offer a longer version of that same answer.
Do you often complete each others sentences? If I imply you are sweet on each other will you threaten to sue me?
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Thats about Amy tho not him. He said he wouldnt sue anyone talking about him.
Ok, let me rephrase. Do you really think you can sue anonymous screen names for saying mean things about your woman on the Internet?
Malicious Communications Act 1998.
Awww, that's sweet of you. Can't he speak for himself?
No need to quite so hostile; Gareth will likely offer a longer version of that same answer.
Do you often complete each others sentences? If I imply you are sweet on each other will you threaten to sue me?
I will repeat myself; There is no need to be quite so hostile. Unknot thy britches. :wanker:
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:asthing:
I know you don't know me, but those who do wouldn't mistake my current posts as hostile. When I get hostile it leaves little doubt.
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:asthing:
I know you don't know me, but those who do wouldn't mistake my current posts as hostile. When I get hostile it leaves little doubt.
I do not know you but in passing; But I can safely say that what little I have seen of you leaves much to be desired in terms of personality - rather valid points on some matters aside, chill the fuck out dude, not everything requires the big stick.
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Do you view me as a friend?
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I can safely say that what little I have seen of you leaves much to be desired in terms of personality
(emo)
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Do you view me as a friend?
Sure, why not. But first, you have to let me plow you.
Intensified. :orly:
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I can safely say that what little I have seen of you leaves much to be desired in terms of personality
(emo)
Heh, I'm just messing with you. You're alright, but you do need to chill a bit.
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Have you been contacted by the catmonkey yet?
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:zoinks: :zoinks:
Do you view me as a friend?
Sure, why not. But first, you have to let me plow you.
Intensified. :orly:
Only if I get to play with Amy! Gareth can watch. :zoinks:
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Criticisms of AFF, of me personally and queries related to these 2 things, throw them at me.
I reserve the right to simply ignore you, answer real slowly or refuse to answer.
Has anyone really ever decided to use even go want to do more like?
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Criticisms of AFF, of me personally and queries related to these 2 things, throw them at me.
I reserve the right to simply ignore you, answer real slowly or refuse to answer.
Has anyone really ever decided to use even go want to do more like?
What?
I'm not sure if that's a troll or just confusingly bad english. Seriously.
?Can't both be
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Criticisms of AFF, of me personally and queries related to these 2 things, throw them at me.
I reserve the right to simply ignore you, answer real slowly or refuse to answer.
Has anyone really ever decided to use even go want to do more like?
What?
I'm not sure if that's a troll or just confusingly bad english. Seriously.
WHOOOOOSH.
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Will you get yourself an avatar, Gareth?
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Will you get yourself an avatar, Gareth?
Perhaps
I could always just give you one :zoinks:
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Will you get yourself an avatar, Gareth?
Perhaps
I could always just give you one :zoinks:
As long as it's not richard's infamous avatar.
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Will you get yourself an avatar, Gareth?
Perhaps
I could always just give you one :zoinks:
As long as it's not richard's infamous avatar.
:laugh:
No every time I see his name I get Roj Blake from Blake's 7played by Gareth Thomas piture in my head
(http://www.sdc.org/~ragan/Blake.jpg)
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Will you get yourself an avatar, Gareth?
Perhaps
I could always just give you one :zoinks:
As long as it's not richard's infamous avatar.
:laugh:
No every time I see his name I get Roj Blake from Blake's 7played by Gareth Thomas piture in my head
(http://www.sdc.org/~ragan/Blake.jpg)
Heh heh. Perfect :)
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You know you want to do it. ;D
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Will you get yourself an avatar, Gareth?
Perhaps
I could always just give you one :zoinks:
As long as it's not richard's infamous avatar.
:laugh:
No every time I see his name I get Roj Blake from Blake's 7played by Gareth Thomas piture in my head
(http://www.sdc.org/~ragan/Blake.jpg)
Heh heh. Perfect :)
Oh god, it IS perfect. Sins uses Avon, which is much too good a character for them to sully.
Plus you've got the whole, "doomed resistance" thing going on, it's just perfect.
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Thats about Amy tho not him. He said he wouldnt sue anyone talking about him.
Ok, let me rephrase. Do you really think you can sue anonymous screen names for saying mean things about your woman on the Internet?
Malicious Communications Act 1998.
Awww, that's sweet of you. Can't he speak for himself?
No need to quite so hostile; Gareth will likely offer a longer version of that same answer.
:lol: just noticed you gheyed me for this. Must have really gotten under your skin. Welcome to the ranks of Benji and Richard, the only other two people to be so bothered by me they needed to express their upset via Karma. :thumbup:
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Why aren't you at AFF much? Busy elsewhere? >:D
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Why aren't you at AFF much? Busy elsewhere? >:D
I pop in casually still sometimes, but nothing serious recently.
Reason why? I'm a CTO of a multinational finance corporation now ( :yarly: ), and as you can imagine that makes me a bit busy.
This is the first business i've started which got outside investment:
http://www.betabeat.com/2011/12/13/brooklyn-based-bitcoin-startup-bitinstant-raises-seed-round/ (http://www.betabeat.com/2011/12/13/brooklyn-based-bitcoin-startup-bitinstant-raises-seed-round/)
If you're wondering about that article, the CEO was my first investor and gets a bit more of the media attention, but he also handles all the "people" parts and is the one who opens up official talks with outside partner companies and regulatory agencies and so on, leaving me to focus on the tech side of things - I was damned lucky to have found the guy.
:plus:
Wow! That's awesome. Not sure what CTO means but it sounds somewhere up in the stratosphere! How's Amy? :o :lol:
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CTO- Chief Technical Officer.
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Thanks! :lol:
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Hey Gareth! How's your sex life? :zoinks:
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How's Amy?
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How did I miss :3some: off from the below?
:zoinks: :zoinks:Do you view me as a friend?
Sure, why not. But first, you have to let me plow you.
Intensified. :orly:
Only if I get to play with Amy! Gareth can watch. :zoinks:
:vibe: :bounce:
:mischief:
I had a sex dream last night with you and Amy. I was naked and lying on a bed and Amy was stroking my clit and you were about to penetrate Amy.
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Its nice to see Gareth here, I always thought AFF and I were the two most different forums, so its a nice feeling of Aspie brotherhood. Only cause I knew not many ppl on both.
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Its nice to see Gareth here, I always thought AFF and I were the two most different forums, so its a nice feeling of Aspie brotherhood. Only cause I knew not many ppl on both.
Hah! If anything, what AFF used to be, and what I^2 is, are the closest two forums in tone. There's a reason there are so many old guard AFF members here ;)
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Its nice to see Gareth here, I always thought AFF and I were the two most different forums, so its a nice feeling of Aspie brotherhood. Only cause I knew not many ppl on both.
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Hah! If anything, what AFF used to be, and I^2 is are the closest two forums in tone. There's a reason there are so many old guard AFF members here ;)
I got sucked in by the massive assortment of smilies and the freedom to curse! :autism:
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Its nice to see Gareth here, I always thought AFF and I were the two most different forums, so its a nice feeling of Aspie brotherhood. Only cause I knew not many ppl on both.
Hah! If anything, what AFF used to be, and what I^2 is, are the closest two forums in tone. There's a reason there are so many old guard AFF members here ;)
Very well said Pikajedi. That gets you a :plus:
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Hey gareth.
A friend of mine is somewhat concerned about fraac(dtx sockpupput apparently) and she was wondering why was dtx banned in the first place?
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Hey gareth.
A friend of mine is somewhat concerned about fraac(dtx sockpupput apparently) and she was wondering why was dtx banned in the first place?
Thanks for the tip, I'll look into that. That makes it easily over 50 times we've banned that twatwaffle.
...Fraac is long banned, dude.
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Hey gareth.
A friend of mine is somewhat concerned about fraac(dtx sockpupput apparently) and she was wondering why was dtx banned in the first place?
Thanks for the tip, I'll look into that. That makes it easily over 50 times we've banned that twatwaffle.
...Fraac is long banned, dude.
He is long banned.
Im just wondering why his original account was suspended.
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Hey gareth.
A friend of mine is somewhat concerned about fraac(dtx sockpupput apparently) and she was wondering why was dtx banned in the first place?
Thanks for the tip, I'll look into that. That makes it easily over 50 times we've banned that twatwaffle.
...Fraac is long banned, dude.
He is long banned.
Im just wondering why his original account was suspended.
If memory serves, he was being a generally aggressive and nasty bellend towards people, so one of the other admins banned him. Since then, he's come back again and again - he only stopped coming back, to our knowledge, when we contacted his ISP.
I'm not the one who originally banned him though.
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Hey gareth.
A friend of mine is somewhat concerned about fraac(dtx sockpupput apparently) and she was wondering why was dtx banned in the first place?
Thanks for the tip, I'll look into that. That makes it easily over 50 times we've banned that twatwaffle.
...Fraac is long banned, dude.
He is long banned.
Im just wondering why his original account was suspended.
If memory serves, he was being a generally aggressive and nasty bellend towards people, so one of the other admins banned him. Since then, he's come back again and again - he only stopped coming back, to our knowledge, when we contacted his ISP.
I'm not the one who originally banned him though.
Thank you very much.
This is probably what my friend was looking for
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I'm thinking I and numerous other "virgins" (if Amy wants to believe that) could secks Amy up better than her husband can. I'm thinking I should abduct her to America so she can get surgery and then keep her in a creepypasta dungeon until Gareth can pay for her ransom. I'm also thinking she enjoys rough sex as much as I do. :zoinks:
:mischief:
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I'm thinking I and numerous other "virgins" (if Amy wants to believe that) could secks Amy up better than her husband can. I'm thinking I should abduct her to America so she can get surgery and then keep her in a creepypasta dungeon until Gareth can pay for her ransom. I'm also thinking she enjoys rough sex as much as I do. :zoinks:
:mischief:
There's an excellent dungeon in B...I've said too much.
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I'm thinking I and numerous other "virgins" (if Amy wants to believe that) could secks Amy up better than her husband can. I'm thinking I should abduct her to America so she can get surgery and then keep her in a creepypasta dungeon until Gareth can pay for her ransom. I'm also thinking she enjoys rough sex as much as I do. :zoinks:
:mischief:
There's an excellent dungeon in B...I've said too much.
:plus: :clap: (Fuck, I am drunk)
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I'm thinking I and numerous other "virgins" (if Amy wants to believe that) could secks Amy up better than her husband can. I'm thinking I should abduct her to America so she can get surgery and then keep her in a creepypasta dungeon until Gareth can pay for her ransom. I'm also thinking she enjoys rough sex as much as I do. :zoinks:
:mischief:
There's an excellent dungeon in B...I've said too much.
:plus: :clap: (Fuck, I am drunk)
:agreed: :indeed: :plus:
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There's an excellent dungeon in B...I've said too much.
There's an awesome mansausage waiting for your backside over here west of the Atlantic, and if you slurp it up afterwards (including whatever bits of doodoo end up on it,) I'll even tattoo your name on it, mr...?
OBTW, what the fark are ya talking about, numbnuts? /b/ "random" subforum? Bareback Mountain? Bitchcake Central Federal Prison hotdog stand?
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There's an excellent dungeon in B...I've said too much.
There's an awesome mansausage waiting for your backside over here west of the Atlantic, and if you slurp it up afterwards (including whatever bits of doodoo end up on it,) I'll even tattoo your name on it, mr...?
OBTW, what the fark are ya talking about, numbnuts? /b/ "random" subforum? Bareback Mountain? Bitchcake Central Federal Prison hotdog stand?
Sense?
You won't see any in this post. Move along people, nothing to see here.
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It's mostly about anally raping PJ3 than making him orally clean it up afterwards, including whatever blood gets on it. ;)
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PARTS wtf are you doing here?! : :o
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It's mostly about anally raping PJ3 than making him orally clean it up afterwards, including whatever blood gets on it. ;)
YOu sure you would not be the one of the two of you holding their ankles, in the encounter? :-\
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Probably not, unless I'm in a generous mood. ;)
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Boring Troll is shocking. He says things that are nasty and mean. He even uses profanity and describes shocking sexual acts.
I have never, ever seen such a thing on the internet before. :GA:
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Boring Troll is shocking. He says things that are nasty and mean. He even uses profanity and describes shocking sexual acts.
I have never, ever seen such a thing on the internet before. :GA:
You should try MMORPGs of the late 90s/early 21th century ;)
The necrophilia/rape/pedophilia/redneck homosexuality references were enough to either turn someone green, make them chuckle or grin or... fascinate them.
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:GA:
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I am confuse. Srsly? :GA:? Whatsitmean anyways?
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Boring Troll is shocking. He says things that are nasty and mean. He even uses profanity and describes shocking sexual acts.
I have never, ever seen such a thing on the internet before. :GA:
Kapkao is the bestest boring troll ever.....Rock on Kapkao
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K. I was fantasizing about myself and two prodigiously endowed, muscular black guys violating Amy (cock-hungry housewife) in all 3 holes.
Y'know... since she has that sort of 'fantasy', and all :P
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Holy shit. I have never thought about Amy like this and now I am in bad need for brain bleach
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Holy shit. I have never thought about Amy like this and now I am in bad need for brain bleach
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/adamosgp/Amazing%20Movie%20GIFs/tumblr_ljb6z44cCs1qat4jdo1_500.gif)
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How did I miss :3some: off from the below?
:zoinks: :zoinks:Do you view me as a friend?
Sure, why not. But first, you have to let me plow you.
Intensified. :orly:
Only if I get to play with Amy! Gareth can watch. :zoinks:
:vibe: :bounce:
:mischief:
I had a sex dream last night with you and Amy. I was naked and lying on a bed and Amy was stroking my clit and you were about to penetrate Amy.
Don't actually know who you are but i'll say "hot"
Lol. It's DFG. I changed my username again.
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Fully erect, how large is your cock?
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How many daughters does Amy have and what are their ages?
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How many daughters does Amy have and what are their ages?
Amy has 1 daughter?
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How many daughters does Amy have and what are their ages?
Amy has 1 daughter?
What would she say if her 16 year old daughter was seduced by a 34 year old man?
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How many daughters does Amy have and what are their ages?
Amy has 1 daughter?
What would she say if her 16 year old daughter was seduced by a 34 year old man?
Call the cops
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How many daughters does Amy have and what are their ages?
Amy has 1 daughter?
What would she say if her 16 year old daughter was seduced by a 34 year old man?
Call the cops
Yet she was 34 when her relationship with Gareth started and he was 16.
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How many daughters does Amy have and what are their ages?
Amy has 1 daughter?
What would she say if her 16 year old daughter was seduced by a 34 year old man?
Call the cops
Yet she was 34 when her relationship with Gareth started and he was 16.
Well there is a difference. She and Gareth are still together and she loves him. I think a parent will be picky about partners for their offspring regardless if they are heartbreaking sluthoppers or a person who wants to be with one partner till death. She's a mother, so she'd be protective.
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How many daughters does Amy have and what are their ages?
Amy has 1 daughter?
What would she say if her 16 year old daughter was seduced by a 34 year old man?
Call the cops
Yet she was 34 when her relationship with Gareth started and he was 16.
Well there is a difference. She and Gareth are still together and she loves him. I think a parent will be picky about partners for their offspring regardless if they are heartbreaking sluthoppers or a person who wants to be with one partner till death. She's a mother, so she'd be protective.
Double standards.
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How many daughters does Amy have and what are their ages?
Amy has 1 daughter?
What would she say if her 16 year old daughter was seduced by a 34 year old man?
Call the cops
Yet she was 34 when her relationship with Gareth started and he was 16.
Well there is a difference. She and Gareth are still together and she loves him. I think a parent will be picky about partners for their offspring regardless if they are heartbreaking sluthoppers or a person who wants to be with one partner till death. She's a mother, so she'd be protective.
Double standards.
Parents are like that. Mine are.
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http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,21384.0/topicseen.html (http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php/topic,21384.0/topicseen.html)
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Gareth, why don't you be a man, stand up to Amy and unban Bloke on AFF. Running the site like a dictatorship is getting old.
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What do you think about the recent AFN/I^2/ASDC drama?
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u mad g4reth?
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How many daughters does Amy have and what are their ages?
Amy has 1 daughter?
What would she say if her 16 year old daughter was seduced by a 34 year old man?
Call the cops
Yet she was 34 when her relationship with Gareth started and he was 16.
:jawdrop:
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Did his parents ever come to terms with it? They fell out with him at the time IIRC.
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Is it true she's writing her memoirs? If so... who is the #1 villain, me or Al (Bloke a.k.a. Grumpy_Rosco)
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Is it true she's writing her memoirs? If so... who is the #1 villain, me or Al (Bloke a.k.a. Grumpy_Rosco)
I think she hS a secret crush on e
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Is it true she's writing her memoirs? If so... who is the #1 villain, me or Al (Bloke a.k.a. Grumpy_Rosco)
I think she hS a secret crush on e
It's obvious that she has a crush on you. You're the world's most interesting man!
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Is it true she's writing her memoirs? If so... who is the #1 villain, me or Al (Bloke a.k.a. Grumpy_Rosco)
I think she hS a secret crush on e
It's obvious that she has a crush on you. You're the world's most interesting man!
Thank you very much. It is an unrequited crush. I think she struggled to express the feelings she has for me.
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No one ever makes me their #1 villain. >:(
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No one ever makes me their #1 villain. >:(
The nerve isn't it? :(
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No one ever makes me their #1 villain. >:(
The nerve isn't it? :(
I know, right? :dunno:
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No one ever makes me their #1 villain. >:(
The nerve isn't it? :(
I know, right? :dunno:
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I did NOT need to read about that comment from ducky....shit....I think I'm going to go and boil my eyes in acid now. For the next several weeks!
Although I have to admit, they do seem to actually make for a pair in love with each other, so what the hell does the age difference matter? I've done what probably would be considered worse. And I'd still do if it were now, with me in my 30s.
What matters is that neither of the pair are abusing each other. And hell, I'll speak up for amy in this particular respect, shit, since when did people on the spectrum do 'conventional' ?
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How's life as Gwen now?
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Is Prince Albert out the door?
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Gwen is it true Amy is finished with her memiors?
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What is your beef with Caitlin Doughty and the death positive movement?
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Why is the sky purple?
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Do you know any Welsh Songs?
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Why did Amy swallow the fly?
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What's your favorite color?
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^I don't think they're coming back. Sorry to ruin your fun.
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^I don't think they're coming back. Sorry to ruin your fun.
I know they're not coming back... it's just a metaphoric way to talk to them without a response.
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What is your beef with Caitlin Doughty and the death positive movement?
I should update my username here, but anyway:
That whole movement is full of deathists, Caitlin herself is extremely nasty and is on record as saying that life extension and Transhumanism is only for men, and women should basically make babies and then die - she dares to call that a feminist view.
She also helped to encourage a harassment campaign against me personally when I criticised their little cult when I was actively mourning my grandmother's death.
That whole movement is so full of deathists that if someone calls themselves "death positive", they basically have to prove to me that they're not a deathist.
My suggestion to all deathists of course is this: you go first, but don't you dare try to sabotage medical research aimed at saving lives, don't try to sabotage my cryo arrangements (as some threatened to - and it's a realistic threat as many work in the funeral industry and may have connections).
Basically, if someone wants me and everyone I love and care about to die, then naturally I'll have a "beef" with them.
The death positive people who aren't deathists are still helping to give the deathists in their movement/cult a respectable appearing face - and I've yet to see any of them call out the ideological leaders of their movement for promoting deathist views or attacking Transhumanists and anti-aging research.
I've seen some argue against a hypothetical cure for heart disease and cancer, because curing these conditions would make people "live too long".
Again, if you are part of that movement and don't call them out, you are part of the problem.
As a Transhumanist, I support uplifting the whole human race, allowing us all to live longer, happier and healthier lives. The death positive cult oppose this goal.
Caitlin Doughty gave a keynote speech about "countering transhumanism" and has advocated for banning research aimed at rejuvenation and slowing or reversing the aging process.
The publicly stated goals of the movement are okay, but that's not what they actually do.
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Gareth, why don't you be a man, stand up to Amy and unban Bloke on AFF. Running the site like a dictatorship is getting old.
Old post of course, but I just have to laugh at the irony.
I was of course extremely bad at "being a man".
Also, my balls have been cut off and incinerated.
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How's life as Gwen now?
Serious answer:
Far far better, I often feel happy with my body instead of grossed out by it - I remember cringing every time I had to see my own body while getting undressed etc, and generally feeling awful. But I'd been convinced that I couldn't be trans for what in retrospect are very very silly reasons.
My orientation has also become more clear to me too: I'm Polyamorous and I'm primarily attracted to men. With Amy's permission I'm currently dating a gorgeous older man (it seems like older partners are my type for some reason) and I'm totally in love with him.
Less friendly answer:
I sense that you don't really care, and you're basically trolling - you did admit that you didn't expect me to even return, and your other questions are obvious trolling. So, whatever.
Here's me looking goth as fuck, and me with my boyfriend:
(https://i.ibb.co/FDnhq98/FB-IMG-1697859413067.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FDnhq98) (https://i.ibb.co/5BYW4sV/FB-IMG-1697859327024.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5BYW4sV)
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To be fair, that second pic I don't look as good, mostly thanks to hot weather ruining my makeup.
So here's a pic taken a few days ago, during my ham radio exam, no makeup on (as opposed to the makeup I wore at pride in the pic above, which actually made me look worse):
(https://i.ibb.co/B6cVt5J/PXL-20231017-154756418.jpg) (https://ibb.co/B6cVt5J)
These days I tend to take a shitload of selfies when I'm feeling pretty or cute, just because it's amazing that I CAN feel pretty or cute.
Being my full self is amazing, it is absolutely mind-blowing how much better I feel about myself now.
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How's life as Gwen now?
Serious answer:
Far far better, I often feel happy with my body instead of grossed out by it - I remember cringing every time I had to see my own body while getting undressed etc, and generally feeling awful. But I'd been convinced that I couldn't be trans for what in retrospect are very very silly reasons.
My orientation has also become more clear to me too: I'm Polyamorous and I'm primarily attracted to men. With Amy's permission I'm currently dating a gorgeous older man (it seems like older partners are my type for some reason) and I'm totally in love with him.
Less friendly answer:
I sense that you don't really care, and you're basically trolling - you did admit that you didn't expect me to even return, and your other questions are obvious trolling. So, whatever.
Here's me looking goth as fuck, and me with my boyfriend:
(https://i.ibb.co/FDnhq98/FB-IMG-1697859413067.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FDnhq98) (https://i.ibb.co/5BYW4sV/FB-IMG-1697859327024.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5BYW4sV)
I was serious with the question... just wanted to make sure you're happy because usually when someone goes through a transition it takes a while to get used to. I guess with other people's experiences from who I talked to previously, it's a metamorphosis or simply a rebirth.
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Welcome back by the way.
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How's life as Gwen now?
Serious answer:
Far far better, I often feel happy with my body instead of grossed out by it - I remember cringing every time I had to see my own body while getting undressed etc, and generally feeling awful. But I'd been convinced that I couldn't be trans for what in retrospect are very very silly reasons.
My orientation has also become more clear to me too: I'm Polyamorous and I'm primarily attracted to men. With Amy's permission I'm currently dating a gorgeous older man (it seems like older partners are my type for some reason) and I'm totally in love with him.
Less friendly answer:
I sense that you don't really care, and you're basically trolling - you did admit that you didn't expect me to even return, and your other questions are obvious trolling. So, whatever.
Here's me looking goth as fuck, and me with my boyfriend:
(https://i.ibb.co/FDnhq98/FB-IMG-1697859413067.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FDnhq98) (https://i.ibb.co/5BYW4sV/FB-IMG-1697859327024.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5BYW4sV)
I was serious with the question... just wanted to make sure you're happy because usually when someone goes through a transition it takes a while to get used to. I guess with other people's experiences from who I talked to previously, it's a metamorphosis or simply a rebirth.
I understand, and it is somewhat like a rebirth - though to me it feels a lot more like being released from what I used to call "male prison" until I realised that people were taking it literally and thought I'm an ex con.
So thank you for asking, sincerely - but I do still feel that you do hold obvious ill will to myself and Amy.
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Oh, this is a surprise.
You look, happy though. I never saw any photos of you in the AFF days that I can remember at least but when one does look at the before and after pictures of transition the key difference, the most noticeable thing to myself is the eyes. There's life behind them that wasn't there before. I'm glad to see you have that.
Also, a trans woman who's Goth, has dyed hair and is poly? Never! :autism:
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How's life as Gwen now?
Serious answer:
Far far better, I often feel happy with my body instead of grossed out by it - I remember cringing every time I had to see my own body while getting undressed etc, and generally feeling awful. But I'd been convinced that I couldn't be trans for what in retrospect are very very silly reasons.
My orientation has also become more clear to me too: I'm Polyamorous and I'm primarily attracted to men. With Amy's permission I'm currently dating a gorgeous older man (it seems like older partners are my type for some reason) and I'm totally in love with him.
Less friendly answer:
I sense that you don't really care, and you're basically trolling - you did admit that you didn't expect me to even return, and your other questions are obvious trolling. So, whatever.
Here's me looking goth as fuck, and me with my boyfriend:
(https://i.ibb.co/FDnhq98/FB-IMG-1697859413067.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FDnhq98) (https://i.ibb.co/5BYW4sV/FB-IMG-1697859327024.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5BYW4sV)
I was serious with the question... just wanted to make sure you're happy because usually when someone goes through a transition it takes a while to get used to. I guess with other people's experiences from who I talked to previously, it's a metamorphosis or simply a rebirth.
I understand, and it is somewhat like a rebirth - though to me it feels a lot more like being released from what I used to call "male prison" until I realised that people were taking it literally and thought I'm an ex con.
So thank you for asking, sincerely - but I do still feel that you do hold obvious ill will to myself and Amy.
I'm sorry that I did hold ill-will. It wasn't right of me to do so, there was just so much in differences that I didn't take the time to just simply listen.
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Oh, this is a surprise.
You look, happy though. I never saw any photos of you in the AFF days that I can remember at least but when one does look at the before and after pictures of transition the key difference, the most noticeable thing to myself is the eyes. There's life behind them that wasn't there before. I'm glad to see you have that.
Also, a trans woman who's Goth, has dyed hair and is poly? Never! :autism:
I'm a cliché, right?
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Oh, this is a surprise.
You look, happy though. I never saw any photos of you in the AFF days that I can remember at least but when one does look at the before and after pictures of transition the key difference, the most noticeable thing to myself is the eyes. There's life behind them that wasn't there before. I'm glad to see you have that.
Also, a trans woman who's Goth, has dyed hair and is poly? Never! :autism:
I'm a cliché, right?
Me too. :asthing: