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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: TheoK on November 23, 2008, 07:11:17 AM

Title: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 23, 2008, 07:11:17 AM
I always thought that the majority of the USA had British ancestry, especially the states in the north and east. Now it turns out that most of the whole country has German ancestry. Even Florida and Alaska are mostly inhabitated by people of German descent.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County-1396x955.png)

Though there seems to be some logical mistake. People can't be of European and "American" descent at the same time, except for the natives of course, but they already have their own place on this map.

Weirdly enough, there are no Swedes on the map. More than 10 million Swedes have moved to the USA. That's more than the whole population of Sweden today. Either they're confused with Norwegians or don't look at themselves as Swedes anymore.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 23, 2008, 07:16:28 AM
23 states have a majority of German descent, 4 Mexican and 9 African.

Why not call it the Union of New Germany, New Mexico(!) and New Africa?  :zoinks:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 23, 2008, 07:22:16 AM
And waging two World Wars against your relatives in Europe...naugthy, naugthy... :eyebrow:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 23, 2008, 07:30:55 AM
Now we see why the United States of America are brave and the last Superpower: the majority is of the Aryan Master Race. :hitler:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: SovaNu on November 23, 2008, 07:45:23 AM
nah, india is a superpower. :headbang2:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 23, 2008, 07:50:48 AM
They're just many but not brave! :arrr:

Seriously, I was 99% sure that the ethnicity at least in New England was:

1. English
2. Scotch
3. Irish
4. French.

That only goes for Maine, Vermont (brave), New Hampshire and Massachusetts. And New York state with neighbourhood is spaghetti cooker land. No wonder N.Y.C. is the most corrupted city in the civilized world.  :P

Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: McGiver on November 23, 2008, 09:17:40 AM
those germans sure like to fuck and move.

now you can understand my intolerance of mexicans....i am surrounded.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 23, 2008, 09:38:58 AM
 :plus:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: McGiver on November 23, 2008, 09:44:46 AM
if they were a smart and logical group of people then i wouldn't have a problem with them.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 23, 2008, 09:55:26 AM
if they were a smart and logical group of people then i wouldn't have a problem with them.

That's because you're a German in disguise. Germans love smartness and order.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: McGiver on November 23, 2008, 09:58:10 AM
i am mostly german. secondly i am irish.  thirdly i am horndawg
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 23, 2008, 09:59:25 AM
I'm Swedish-Norwegian-Spanish. Though the Spanish just comes around in my temper. You'd never guess by my looks.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: McGiver on November 23, 2008, 10:01:07 AM
I'm Swedish-Norwegian-Spanish. Though the Spanish just comes around in my temper. You'd never guess by my looks.
i see then.  you are not even one iota of ze master race.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 23, 2008, 10:03:04 AM
Oh yes, Hitler said that Scandinavians were very much of ze Master Race.  :arrr:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: McGiver on November 23, 2008, 10:04:49 AM
Oh yes, Hitler said that Scandinavians were very much of ze Master Race.  :arrr:
this just in.  hitler lied to your faces.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 23, 2008, 10:05:50 AM
 :(
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: McGiver on November 23, 2008, 10:13:36 AM
sorry.  but he was just vieing for allies.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 23, 2008, 10:23:52 AM
Seriously it is so that the purest people of Nordic race live in Sweden and Norway, not in Germany.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: McGiver on November 23, 2008, 10:24:54 AM
Seriously it is so that the purest people of Nordic race live in Sweden and Norway, not in Germany.
hitler duped you.

don't feel bad.  just look at what he did to the jews.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 23, 2008, 10:27:29 AM
 :green:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: McGiver on November 23, 2008, 10:28:58 AM
and now look what happened.  i think the jews are running the scenes behind the swedish gov't.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 23, 2008, 10:30:56 AM
They run ze whole planet.  :(
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: McGiver on November 23, 2008, 10:32:12 AM
They run ze whole planet.  :(
because of diamonds and gold.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 23, 2008, 10:34:31 AM
And the Illuminati.  :grrr:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: McGiver on November 23, 2008, 10:42:28 AM
And the Illuminati.  :grrr:
am i going to have to google that myself and do some reading? or, will you give me a brief synapsis of what the illuminati is?
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 23, 2008, 10:47:56 AM
And the Illuminati.  :grrr:
am i going to have to google that myself and do some reading? or, will you give me a brief synapsis of what the illuminati is?

What the hell? Do you seriously not know what the Illuminati (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati) is?
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 23, 2008, 10:50:01 AM
By the way, Ingolstadt is also the town where Frankenstein's monster supposedly came from.  :lol:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: McGiver on November 23, 2008, 10:53:15 AM
i didn't see a disproportionate amount of jewish surnames in your article.  how does this fit your statement?
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Christopher McCandless on November 23, 2008, 10:58:00 AM
and now look what happened.  i think the jews are running the scenes behind the swedish gov't.
#
To be fair the Jews are giving me free wine and nibbles next week - so I can't be too harsh on them. :P
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: McGiver on November 23, 2008, 10:59:48 AM
and now look what happened.  i think the jews are running the scenes behind the swedish gov't.
#
To be fair the Jews are giving me free wine and nibbles next week - so I can't be too harsh on them. :P
how about the week after next?
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 23, 2008, 11:03:14 AM
i didn't see a disproportionate amount of jewish surnames in your article.  how does this fit your statement?

That would be too obvious. But interestingly enough most members of the Illuminati today are not Germans but Anglo-Saxons. You actually have an Illuminati symbol on all of your paper money.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: McGiver on November 23, 2008, 11:05:00 AM
so the jews changed their names in an effort to disguise their identities from their diabolical plans
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Christopher McCandless on November 23, 2008, 11:05:33 AM
and now look what happened.  i think the jews are running the scenes behind the swedish gov't.
#
To be fair the Jews are giving me free wine and nibbles next week - so I can't be too harsh on them. :P
how about the week after next?
Depends if they agree to give me more hospitality or not in the near future...
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: McGiver on November 23, 2008, 11:07:41 AM
and now look what happened.  i think the jews are running the scenes behind the swedish gov't.
#
To be fair the Jews are giving me free wine and nibbles next week - so I can't be too harsh on them. :P
how about the week after next?
Depends if they agree to give me more hospitality or not in the near future...
be careful or they will convert you to a jesus hating god fearin old testament following banker.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Christopher McCandless on November 23, 2008, 11:09:14 AM
and now look what happened.  i think the jews are running the scenes behind the swedish gov't.
#
To be fair the Jews are giving me free wine and nibbles next week - so I can't be too harsh on them. :P
how about the week after next?
Depends if they agree to give me more hospitality or not in the near future...
be careful or they will convert you to a jesus hating god fearin old testament following banker.
Lol! Its mainly the "Christians" here that are running around converting people. The Jews have invited an entire society along to this event, basically they are inviting the universities left-wingers along. Probably the least receptive audience for conversion.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: McGiver on November 23, 2008, 11:12:13 AM
what if the homosexuals sponsor an event.  will you be pro them?
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Christopher McCandless on November 23, 2008, 11:20:27 AM
what if the homosexuals sponsor an event.  will you be pro them?
Nope - they would get a polite one line rejection email. Unless the event was very good of course, in which case I would quietly show up and disappear after the good bits.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: McGiver on November 23, 2008, 11:42:05 AM
what if the homosexuals sponsor an event.  will you be pro them?
Nope - they would get a polite one line rejection email. Unless the event was very good of course, in which case I would quietly show up and disappear after the good bits.
would that be the butt-fucking
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Christopher McCandless on November 23, 2008, 12:45:49 PM
what if the homosexuals sponsor an event.  will you be pro them?
Nope - they would get a polite one line rejection email. Unless the event was very good of course, in which case I would quietly show up and disappear after the good bits.
would that be the butt-fucking
No - the public speaker. I am not bribed by mere food btw...
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: DirtDawg on November 23, 2008, 04:10:33 PM
And the Illuminati.  :grrr:
am i going to have to google that myself and do some reading? or, will you give me a brief synapsis of what the illuminati is?

Here's (http://lib.oto-usa.org/libri/liber0220.html) an interesting bit of reading, if you are curious.

Note the "Open Letter to those who may wish to join the order." (http://lib.oto-usa.org/)
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 06:36:43 AM
No-one commented the factual topic of the thread. What about most of the USA having German ancestry?  :P
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: DirtDawg on November 24, 2008, 07:55:39 AM
I have no problem with the ancestry of my fellow countrymen. I have known many people from all over the world in my life, who have chosen to become Americans.  I see little more upon which to comment.
Right now, I work with a few who are first generation, naturalised Americans ... a man from UAE, a man from Zimbabwe, a woman from India, two young brothers from Pakistan, a Samoan man, a Haitian woman, a young girl from Albania and a man from the Dominican Republic (although he is still using a work permit). Our store's employee roster is about one hundred ten these days. Several religions are also represented.

A brief list of real people I know or have known personally, with enough German in them to still carry Germanic surnames (although some of their names have been anglicised):

Zook, Snell, Boelsterbaum, Schaefer, Yoder, Baer, Betts, Culp, Cramer, Faulks, Shnavely, Jungblut, Hostetler, Sauter, Gaitz, Kistler, Caine, Boehmer, Lang, Rister, Mueller, Myer, Nuemann, Bogir, Pfeifer, Roth, Reinhardt, Klein, Schultz, Ault, Bauman, Bowman, Von Braun, Gerber, Kleibermann, Zimmerman, Brubaker, Boecher, Freuhoff, Gunther, Kapstein, Vogel, Hofner, Heissman, Weiand, Shlegel, Kester, Dreyer, Mohr ... and I'm sure I can think of many more, given time.

That represents just the people I now know, have worked around in the past or are related to me, who are obviously of German heritage.

I don't really think I see your point.
Why does it seem odd to you that a mass of people would leave a certain country, then have to go to war with that country?

???
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: DirtDawg on November 24, 2008, 08:02:43 AM

Hmmm, come to think harder on the point, I can't think of a single first generation European immigrant in the four stores I work around on a daily basis. (Our store is the smallest of all. Most stores have well over one hundred twenty on the roster, right now.)

Volumes!

Does that mean that all the people from Europe who want to be Americans are already here and our next war will be with Europe?
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 09:14:30 AM

I don't really think I see your point.
Why does it seem odd to you that a mass of people would leave a certain country, then have to go to war with that country?

???

It seems very illogical. Either they left their coutry because they didn't like it, and then they'd rather just not want to have anything to do with that country, especially not go back there and risk their lives in a war against it; or they left it because they liked it but couldn't earn their living there etc. and then they'd rather sympathize with their old country.

Though neither Wilson nor Roosevelt had German ancestors; Roosevelt had Dutch, though, and, of course, Jewish.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 09:21:25 AM
Does that mean that all the people from Europe who want to be Americans are already here and our next war will be with Europe?

No, because all Europeans who want can't go there because you have strict immigration laws. It's not like Sweden where any subhuman garbage can get a permanent permit to stay by throwing away their passport and claiming that they are politically persecuted at home.

Your next war will either be with Iran, despite that Obama is president, or a civil war because Obama is president.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 24, 2008, 09:53:22 AM
 :yawn:I regret reading this thread.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 10:05:53 AM
No-one forced you.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 24, 2008, 10:07:14 AM
Yes. Yes I know.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: odeon on November 24, 2008, 11:53:15 AM
:yawn:I regret reading this thread.

Rule of thumb: the closet nazi's threads aren't worth reading.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 24, 2008, 12:00:06 PM
:yawn:I regret reading this thread.

Rule of thumb: the closet nazi's threads aren't worth reading.

Which is why I have decided to try and find out where most of them live, send them erotic films involving only people with blonde hair and blue eyes. The catch is that all of the films will contain subliminal messages which will suggest that these people send me all of their money, and mutilate themselves.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: odeon on November 24, 2008, 12:05:08 PM
:laugh:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 12:05:42 PM
Den vapenvägrande "liberale" finnen som röstade på ett parti som införde en avlyssningslag som Stalin skulle avundas Sverige skriver däremot alltid läsvärt och, framförallt, ärligt.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 24, 2008, 12:07:02 PM
Ah german. Even though I can't read it, I am pretty sure that I would not be impressed by what it says.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 12:07:51 PM
Ah german. Even though I can't read it, I am pretty sure that I would not be impressed by what it says.

Swedish, you idiot.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 24, 2008, 12:09:40 PM
I know it makes me seem pompous, but it all looks the same to me. And I really don't care to learn.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 12:13:08 PM
You wouldn't make it. German is hard to learn and Swedish is even harder. Very few foreigners ever learn how to speak Swedish without a foreign accent.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 24, 2008, 12:15:31 PM
You wouldn't make it. German is hard to learn and Swedish is even harder. Very few foreigners ever learn how to speak Swedish without a foreign accent.

See-

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And I really don't care to learn.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: odeon on November 24, 2008, 12:17:02 PM
Den vapenvägrande "liberale" finnen som röstade på ett parti som införde en avlyssningslag som Stalin skulle avundas Sverige skriver däremot alltid läsvärt och, framförallt, ärligt.

So easy to reduce you to this. Poor Lit; do you think posting in Swedish here makes you special?

::)
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 12:18:40 PM
Ett tecken på en total fjant: han skriver på ett annat språk till en landsman i en privat dispyt för "publikens" skull.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: odeon on November 24, 2008, 12:19:20 PM
You wouldn't make it. German is hard to learn and Swedish is even harder. Very few foreigners ever learn how to speak Swedish without a foreign accent.

Swedish is not a hard language to learn. But then, who'd believe you? You aren't exactly an authority on anything.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 12:20:05 PM
You wouldn't make it. German is hard to learn and Swedish is even harder. Very few foreigners ever learn how to speak Swedish without a foreign accent.

See-

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And I really don't care to learn.


If you wear your baseball cap that way, especially indoors, it's obvious that you don't care about much at all.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: odeon on November 24, 2008, 12:20:49 PM
Ett tecken på en total fjant: han skriver på ett annat språk till en landsman i en privat dispyt för "publikens" skull.

This was never private, dear child.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 12:20:54 PM
You wouldn't make it. German is hard to learn and Swedish is even harder. Very few foreigners ever learn how to speak Swedish without a foreign accent.

Swedish is not a hard language to learn. But then, who'd believe you? You aren't exactly an authority on anything.

Compared with Icelandic it's quite simple. The accent is very hard to get correctly.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 24, 2008, 12:24:44 PM
You wouldn't make it. German is hard to learn and Swedish is even harder. Very few foreigners ever learn how to speak Swedish without a foreign accent.

See-

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And I really don't care to learn.


Well if you would notice the paint on me, you're right. At that particular moment, I really didn't care how I looked. I was eating lunch after painting a fence.
If you wear your baseball cap that way, especially indoors, it's obvious that you don't care about much at all.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 12:27:14 PM
Then don't use such a pic as an avatar.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: odeon on November 24, 2008, 12:29:58 PM
 :hahaha:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 24, 2008, 12:31:14 PM
Then don't use such a pic as an avatar.

I really don't have a problem with it. If it makes you feel uncomfortable that the sight of my beautiful face causes gay gravy to erupt from your penis, perhaps you should avoid looking at me.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 12:33:13 PM
It's really not a turn-on that you have no idea of foreign languages.  8)
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 24, 2008, 12:35:30 PM
It's really not a turn-on that you have no idea of foreign languages.  8)
That I have no idea of foreign languages. Right.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 12:37:13 PM
I'm not a Nazi, by the way, but an anarcho-primitivist. I used to be a Nazi when I was younger, though. Though I still hate towelheads who think they own Sweden and the rest of the Western world.  8)
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 24, 2008, 12:38:34 PM
I see. I don't actually hate anyone. I do not understand that way of thinking personally, and probably never will.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 12:44:25 PM
Well, if you could care, you could read about my present views on Wiki: Anarcho-primitivism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-primitivism)

Very short: "Primitivists do not see themselves as part of the Left (see also post-left anarchy). Rather they view the socialist and liberal orientations as corrupt. Primitivists argue that the Left has proven itself to be a monumental failure in its objectives. The Left, according to primitivists, is a general term and can roughly describe all socialist leanings (from social democrats and liberals to communists) which wish to re-socialize 'the masses into a more 'progressive' agenda, often using coercive and manipulative approaches in order to create a false 'unity' or the creation of political parties.

---
Most anarchists and revolutionaries spend a significant portion of their time developing schemes and mechanisms for production, distribution, adjudication, and communication between large numbers of people; in other words, the functioning of a complex society. Primitivists do not accept the premise of global (or even regional) social, political, and economic coordination and interdependence, or the organization needed for their administration. They reject mass society for practical and philosophical reasons. First, they reject the inherent governmental representation necessary for the functioning of situations outside the realm of direct experience (completely decentralized modes of existence). They do not wish to run society or organize a different society. They want a completely different frame of reference. They want a world where each group is autonomous and decides on its own terms how to live, with all interactions being non-coercive, based on affinity, freedom, and openness."
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: DirtDawg on November 24, 2008, 01:06:07 PM

I don't really think I see your point.
Why does it seem odd to you that a mass of people would leave a certain country, then have to go to war with that country?

???

It seems very illogical. Either they left their coutry because they didn't like it, and then they'd rather just not want to have anything to do with that country, especially not go back there and risk their lives in a war against it; or they left it because they liked it but couldn't earn their living there etc. and then they'd rather sympathize with their old country.

Though neither Wilson nor Roosevelt had German ancestors; Roosevelt had Dutch, though, and, of course, Jewish.

Maybe you should re-asses your logic process.

I would also suggest a quick perusal of history, to start. Choose any "coutry" you like.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 24, 2008, 01:09:06 PM
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based on affinity, freedom, and openness."

That is the only attractive part in my opinion. To be fair though Theo, a lot of what I see you talk about usually has to do with hating something.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 01:09:55 PM


Maybe you should re-asses your logic process.

I would also suggest a quick perusal of history, to start. Choose any "coutry" you like.

I had a "5" (the highest grade) in history and was best at my entire high school, according to my teacher.

Most citizens of the USA didn't want a war at all, neither WWI nor WWII, but Wilson and Roosevelt tricked and scared them. Lusitania...Pearl Harbor...WTC...
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: DirtDawg on November 24, 2008, 01:10:11 PM
Does that mean that all the people from Europe who want to be Americans are already here and our next war will be with Europe?

No, because all Europeans who want can't go there because you have strict immigration laws.

So, tell me why that's a bad thing.

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Your next war will either be with Iran, despite that Obama is president, or a civil war because Obama is president.

Nah, we won't fight over our new president, except in the usual way.

As far as Iran, we have a well publicised plan for staying out of any armed conflict with them as well as alternate plans. The Iranians also know of the expectations placed upon them by most of the free world's powers. It's like getting a speeding ticket, Tig. You can easily prevent them. You know what is going to happen if you do certain things. Iran can prevent an invasion of her soil.

I also doubt that our "Chicago-Tough"  President Elect will be as easy to influence with FUD presented by military advisers, filling him with cowboy daydreams, as was our lame duck President.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 01:12:21 PM
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based on affinity, freedom, and openness."

That is the only attractive part in my opinion. To be fair though Theo, a lot of what I see you talk about usually has to do with hating something.

In short terms: society is not there for you or me, it's there for the rich and powerful. Therefore, it must be torn down and the powerful must surrender their power to the individuals.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: odeon on November 24, 2008, 01:13:12 PM
:tinfoil:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 01:17:13 PM
So, tell me why that's a bad thing.


It's not a bad thing, as long at it keeps out the 3rd world scum we have comming  into most European countries. It's a bad thing when it prevents decent northern and western Europeans to move to the USA.


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Nah, we won't fight over our new president, except in the usual way.

As far as Iran, we have a well publicised plan for staying out of any armed conflict with them as well as alternate plans. The Iranians also know of the expectations placed upon them by most of the free world's powers. It's like getting a speeding ticket, Tig. You can easily prevent them. You know what is going to happen if you do certain things. Iran can prevent an invasion of her soil.

I also doubt that our "Chicago-Tough"  President Elect will be as easy to influence with FUD presented by military advisers, filling him with cowboy daydreams, as was our lame duck President.


You can never know that for sure. Kennedy was the one who dragged the USA into the Vietnam war, but that is forgotten, since he got shot long before the war went disastrous for you.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 24, 2008, 01:17:27 PM
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based on affinity, freedom, and openness."

That is the only attractive part in my opinion. To be fair though Theo, a lot of what I see you talk about usually has to do with hating something.

In short terms: society is not there for you or me, it's there for the rich and powerful. Therefore, it must be torn down and the powerful must surrender their power to the individuals.

When you actually find enough people to accomplish this, i'll be interested. But still, in a few generations there would be problems with the society you fought to create anyway. Possibly even worse than before.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 01:20:37 PM
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based on affinity, freedom, and openness."

That is the only attractive part in my opinion. To be fair though Theo, a lot of what I see you talk about usually has to do with hating something.

In short terms: society is not there for you or me, it's there for the rich and powerful. Therefore, it must be torn down and the powerful must surrender their power to the individuals.

When you actually find enough people to accomplish this, i'll be interested. But still, in a few generations there would be problems with the society you fought to create anyway. Possibly even worse than before.

We don't want a "society" at all. We want free individuals; no military, no police, no authorities; to each his own in a totally literal sense. Only totally voluntarily agreements among free individuals should be accepted.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: odeon on November 24, 2008, 01:23:00 PM
We don't want a "society" at all. We wan't free individuals; no military, no police, no authorities; to each his own in a totally literal sense. Only totally voluntarily agreements among free individuals should be accepted.

"wan't"?
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: SovaNu on November 24, 2008, 01:24:31 PM
PUI
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 24, 2008, 01:27:36 PM
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based on affinity, freedom, and openness."

That is the only attractive part in my opinion. To be fair though Theo, a lot of what I see you talk about usually has to do with hating something.

In short terms: society is not there for you or me, it's there for the rich and powerful. Therefore, it must be torn down and the powerful must surrender their power to the individuals.


When you actually find enough people to accomplish this, i'll be interested. But still, in a few generations there would be problems with the society you fought to create anyway. Possibly even worse than before.

We don't want a "society" at all. We want free individuals; no military, no police, no authorities; to each his own in a totally literal sense. Only totally voluntarily agreements among free individuals should be accepted.

Only children could actually believe that would work.   :poo:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: DirtDawg on November 24, 2008, 01:28:54 PM


Maybe you should re-asses your logic process.

I would also suggest a quick perusal of history, to start. Choose any "coutry" you like.

Most citizens of the USA didn't want a war at all, neither WWI nor WWII, but Wilson and Roosevelt tricked and scared them. Lusitania...Pearl Harbor...WTC...

Not disputing that, but look more at older history.

Remember not to use our history as The Standard, as we are an exceptional nation.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 01:32:21 PM
Only children could actually believe that would work.   :poo:

Theodore Kazcynski isn't a child. He was a professor of mathematics at age 25 and according to some colleagues "one of the 10 most intelligent persons in the United States".

The "children" here are the average citizens, believing in "society's" lies and propaganda.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 01:35:03 PM


Maybe you should re-asses your logic process.

I would also suggest a quick perusal of history, to start. Choose any "coutry" you like.

Most citizens of the USA didn't want a war at all, neither WWI nor WWII, but Wilson and Roosevelt tricked and scared them. Lusitania...Pearl Harbor...WTC...

Not disputing that, but look more at older history.

Remember not to use our history as The Standard, as we are an exceptional nation.

You're not exceptional at faking an excuse for war. Gustav III dressed Swedes in Russian uniforms and let them shoot at a Swedish border post in Karelia in 1788 to get an excuse for a war with Russia. Hitler did the same thing with prisoners in Polish uniforms against a German radio station in Silesia in 1939.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 24, 2008, 01:35:28 PM
Only children could actually believe that would work.   :poo:

Theodore Kazcynski isn't a child. He was a professor of mathematics at age 25 and according to some colleagues "one of the 10 most intelligent persons in the United States".

The "children" here are the average citizens, believing in "society's" lies and propaganda.

I already know about society's lies and propaganda, and I would accept it before complete anarchy.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: SovaNu on November 24, 2008, 01:40:28 PM
ok i quoted the wrong thing, shows me right for PUI :orly:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: SovaNu on November 24, 2008, 01:42:16 PM
Ah german. Even though I can't read it, I am pretty sure that I would not be impressed by what it says.

your loss, nimrod. :orly: :orly:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: SovaNu on November 24, 2008, 01:42:35 PM
hahaha i quoted the wrong thing again.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 24, 2008, 01:43:50 PM
Ah german. Even though I can't read it, I am pretty sure that I would not be impressed by what it says.

your loss, nimrod. :orly: :orly:

Indeed.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: SovaNu on November 24, 2008, 01:44:09 PM
I know it makes me seem pompous, but it all looks the same to me. And I really don't care to learn.

your loss, nimrod.

 :orly: :orly: :orly:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 01:45:38 PM
Only children could actually believe that would work.   :poo:

Theodore Kazcynski isn't a child. He was a professor of mathematics at age 25 and according to some colleagues "one of the 10 most intelligent persons in the United States".

The "children" here are the average citizens, believing in "society's" lies and propaganda.

I already know about society's lies and propaganda, and I would accept it before complete anarchy.

Complete anarchy is the only freedom there is and ever will be. I don't think most things would change, though. People who are law-abiding today wouldn't turn into monsters just because there weren't any laws. The ones who rob, rape, murder etc would be the same as today. The difference would be that the free individuals could make agreements to get rid of them. And the good people always outnumber the bad.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: SovaNu on November 24, 2008, 01:47:10 PM
swedish is a beautiful language. :headbang2:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 24, 2008, 01:47:53 PM
Only children could actually believe that would work.   :poo:

Theodore Kazcynski isn't a child. He was a professor of mathematics at age 25 and according to some colleagues "one of the 10 most intelligent persons in the United States".

The "children" here are the average citizens, believing in "society's" lies and propaganda.

I already know about society's lies and propaganda, and I would accept it before complete anarchy.

Complete anarchy is the only freedom there is and ever will be. I don't think most things would change, though. People who are law-abiding today wouldn't turn into monsters just because there weren't any laws. The ones who rob, rape, murder etc would be the same as today. The difference would be that the free individuals could make agreements to get rid of them. And the good people always outnumber the bad.

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And the good people always outnumber the bad.

I'd like to see you prove that, because i'm absolutely convinced its not true.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 01:48:17 PM
swedish is a beautiful language. :headbang2:

Så sant som det är sagt.  :agreed:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: RageBeoulve on November 24, 2008, 01:49:18 PM
swedish is a beautiful language. :headbang2:

Oh i'm sure it is. However I am a struggling young man without the time or the desire to learn a new language. It was not my intention to offend you.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 01:49:55 PM
Only children could actually believe that would work.   :poo:

Theodore Kazcynski isn't a child. He was a professor of mathematics at age 25 and according to some colleagues "one of the 10 most intelligent persons in the United States".

The "children" here are the average citizens, believing in "society's" lies and propaganda.

I already know about society's lies and propaganda, and I would accept it before complete anarchy.

Complete anarchy is the only freedom there is and ever will be. I don't think most things would change, though. People who are law-abiding today wouldn't turn into monsters just because there weren't any laws. The ones who rob, rape, murder etc would be the same as today. The difference would be that the free individuals could make agreements to get rid of them. And the good people always outnumber the bad.

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And the good people always outnumber the bad.

I'd like to see you prove that, because i'm absolutely convinced its not true.

With "good people" I don't mean that they're saints or anything. But most people aren't robbers, rapists, murderers or cannibals by nature.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 01:53:25 PM
swedish is a beautiful language. :headbang2:

Oh i'm sure it is. However I am a struggling young man without the time or the desire to learn a new language. It was not my intention to offend you.

School? I studied two foreign languages at the same time in higher elementary and high school. And I studied natural science. Nowadays you can study three when studying natural science.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: DirtDawg on November 24, 2008, 02:25:15 PM
So, tell me why that's a bad thing.


It's not a bad thing, as long at it keeps out the 3rd world scum we have comming  into most European countries. It's a bad thing when it prevents decent northern and western Europeans to move to the USA.


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Nah, we won't fight over our new president, except in the usual way.

As far as Iran, we have a well publicised plan for staying out of any armed conflict with them as well as alternate plans. The Iranians also know of the expectations placed upon them by most of the free world's powers. It's like getting a speeding ticket, Tig. You can easily prevent them. You know what is going to happen if you do certain things. Iran can prevent an invasion of her soil.

I also doubt that our "Chicago-Tough"  President Elect will be as easy to influence with FUD presented by military advisers, filling him with cowboy daydreams, as was our lame duck President.


You can never know that for sure. Kennedy was the one who dragged the USA into the Vietnam war, but that is forgotten, since he got shot long before the war went disastrous for you.


... forgotten? Hardly. Go back even further to find more blame.
Truman supporting France in the continued administration of its colonial French Indo-China after WWII, knowing full well that a declaration of independence from French rule by the Viet Minh was eminent, seems to get a bye, also.
Dulles (Secretary of State in the Eisenhower cabinet) made the entire state of affairs about "rolling back" communism around the world in the way he presented the issues of the growing conflict to the American public, despite the fact that Viet Minh forces (Communists) had aided and rescued several of our downed pilots during the war with Japan, everyone ignores.
The Eisenhower administration, not signing the 1954 Geneva Accord (temporary independence for French Indo-China, with a division at the "Seventeenth Parallel" while elections could be held), instead, sending military training forces (and MONEY!) to set up an army for a faction opposing the Viet Minh (led by Diem, an Indo-Chinese Catholic) in the southern part of the colony, no one cares about.
Conniving Kennedy's role is completely forgiven, due to a "Magic Bullet."
When the US Destroyer Maddox and the USS Turner Joy first began shelling the coast of Viet Nam, it was in response to a sonar alert they perceived as an attack, which turned out to be each other's propeller beats, is also forgiven.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Lucifer on November 24, 2008, 02:32:19 PM
testikels.

in general.

 :eyelash:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 02:38:16 PM
So, tell me why that's a bad thing.


It's not a bad thing, as long at it keeps out the 3rd world scum we have comming  into most European countries. It's a bad thing when it prevents decent northern and western Europeans to move to the USA.


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Nah, we won't fight over our new president, except in the usual way.

As far as Iran, we have a well publicised plan for staying out of any armed conflict with them as well as alternate plans. The Iranians also know of the expectations placed upon them by most of the free world's powers. It's like getting a speeding ticket, Tig. You can easily prevent them. You know what is going to happen if you do certain things. Iran can prevent an invasion of her soil.

I also doubt that our "Chicago-Tough"  President Elect will be as easy to influence with FUD presented by military advisers, filling him with cowboy daydreams, as was our lame duck President.


You can never know that for sure. Kennedy was the one who dragged the USA into the Vietnam war, but that is forgotten, since he got shot long before the war went disastrous for you.


... forgotten? Hardly. Go back even further to find more blame.
Truman supporting France in the continued administration of its colonial French Indo-China after WWII, knowing full well that a declaration of independence from French rule by the Viet Minh was eminent, seems to get a bye, also.
Dulles (Secretary of State in the Eisenhower cabinet) made the entire state of affairs about "rolling back" communism around the world in the way he presented the issues of the growing conflict to the American public, despite the fact that Viet Minh forces (Communists) had aided and rescued several of our downed pilots during the war with Japan, everyone ignores.
The Eisenhower administration, not signing the 1954 Geneva Accord (temporary independence for French Indo-China, with a division at the "Seventeenth Parallel" while elections could be held), instead, sending military training forces (and MONEY!) to set up an army for a faction opposing the Viet Minh (led by Diem, an Indo-Chinese Catholic) in the southern part of the colony, no one cares about.
Conniving Kennedy's role is completely forgiven, due to a "Magic Bullet."
When the US Destroyer Maddox and the USS Turner Joy first began shelling the coast of Viet Nam, it was in response to a sonar alert they perceived as an attack, which turned out to be each other's propeller beats, is also forgiven.


The point was that even a "peaceloving" president can start a war or intervene more in an ongoing one.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: DirtDawg on November 24, 2008, 02:42:29 PM
testikels.

in general.

 :eyelash:

What?

Don't like history?
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: DirtDawg on November 24, 2008, 02:43:41 PM
So, tell me why that's a bad thing.


It's not a bad thing, as long at it keeps out the 3rd world scum we have comming  into most European countries. It's a bad thing when it prevents decent northern and western Europeans to move to the USA.


Quote

Nah, we won't fight over our new president, except in the usual way.

As far as Iran, we have a well publicised plan for staying out of any armed conflict with them as well as alternate plans. The Iranians also know of the expectations placed upon them by most of the free world's powers. It's like getting a speeding ticket, Tig. You can easily prevent them. You know what is going to happen if you do certain things. Iran can prevent an invasion of her soil.

I also doubt that our "Chicago-Tough"  President Elect will be as easy to influence with FUD presented by military advisers, filling him with cowboy daydreams, as was our lame duck President.


You can never know that for sure. Kennedy was the one who dragged the USA into the Vietnam war, but that is forgotten, since he got shot long before the war went disastrous for you.


... forgotten? Hardly. Go back even further to find more blame.
Truman supporting France in the continued administration of its colonial French Indo-China after WWII, knowing full well that a declaration of independence from French rule by the Viet Minh was eminent, seems to get a bye, also.
Dulles (Secretary of State in the Eisenhower cabinet) made the entire state of affairs about "rolling back" communism around the world in the way he presented the issues of the growing conflict to the American public, despite the fact that Viet Minh forces (Communists) had aided and rescued several of our downed pilots during the war with Japan, everyone ignores.
The Eisenhower administration, not signing the 1954 Geneva Accord (temporary independence for French Indo-China, with a division at the "Seventeenth Parallel" while elections could be held), instead, sending military training forces (and MONEY!) to set up an army for a faction opposing the Viet Minh (led by Diem, an Indo-Chinese Catholic) in the southern part of the colony, no one cares about.
Conniving Kennedy's role is completely forgiven, due to a "Magic Bullet."
When the US Destroyer Maddox and the USS Turner Joy first began shelling the coast of Viet Nam, it was in response to a sonar alert they perceived as an attack, which turned out to be each other's propeller beats, is also forgiven.


The point was that even a "peaceloving" president can start a war or intervene more in an ongoing one.

So, now, President Elect Obama is "peaceloving?"

Have you been listening to him?
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Lucifer on November 24, 2008, 02:44:53 PM
testikels.

in general.

 :eyelash:

What?

Don't like history?

noooooooo - i'm learning swedish just so lit feels less threatened.

 :angel:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 02:48:09 PM
So, tell me why that's a bad thing.


It's not a bad thing, as long at it keeps out the 3rd world scum we have comming  into most European countries. It's a bad thing when it prevents decent northern and western Europeans to move to the USA.


Quote

Nah, we won't fight over our new president, except in the usual way.

As far as Iran, we have a well publicised plan for staying out of any armed conflict with them as well as alternate plans. The Iranians also know of the expectations placed upon them by most of the free world's powers. It's like getting a speeding ticket, Tig. You can easily prevent them. You know what is going to happen if you do certain things. Iran can prevent an invasion of her soil.

I also doubt that our "Chicago-Tough"  President Elect will be as easy to influence with FUD presented by military advisers, filling him with cowboy daydreams, as was our lame duck President.


You can never know that for sure. Kennedy was the one who dragged the USA into the Vietnam war, but that is forgotten, since he got shot long before the war went disastrous for you.


... forgotten? Hardly. Go back even further to find more blame.
Truman supporting France in the continued administration of its colonial French Indo-China after WWII, knowing full well that a declaration of independence from French rule by the Viet Minh was eminent, seems to get a bye, also.
Dulles (Secretary of State in the Eisenhower cabinet) made the entire state of affairs about "rolling back" communism around the world in the way he presented the issues of the growing conflict to the American public, despite the fact that Viet Minh forces (Communists) had aided and rescued several of our downed pilots during the war with Japan, everyone ignores.
The Eisenhower administration, not signing the 1954 Geneva Accord (temporary independence for French Indo-China, with a division at the "Seventeenth Parallel" while elections could be held), instead, sending military training forces (and MONEY!) to set up an army for a faction opposing the Viet Minh (led by Diem, an Indo-Chinese Catholic) in the southern part of the colony, no one cares about.
Conniving Kennedy's role is completely forgiven, due to a "Magic Bullet."
When the US Destroyer Maddox and the USS Turner Joy first began shelling the coast of Viet Nam, it was in response to a sonar alert they perceived as an attack, which turned out to be each other's propeller beats, is also forgiven.


The point was that even a "peaceloving" president can start a war or intervene more in an ongoing one.

So, now, President Elect Obama is "peaceloving?"

Have you been listening to him?

OK, even simpler: you can't predict what he will and will not do.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: SovaNu on November 24, 2008, 02:49:43 PM
swedish is a beautiful language. :headbang2:

Oh i'm sure it is. However I am a struggling young man without the time or the desire to learn a new language. It was not my intention to offend you.

that doesn't offend me. :P i just think it's a cool language.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 02:50:12 PM
testikels.

in general.

 :eyelash:

What?

Don't like history?

noooooooo - i'm learning swedish just so lit feels less threatened.

 :angel:

But that was wrong. "Testikel" is "testicle" in Swedish -- in singularis. In pluralis it's "testiklar".
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 02:50:51 PM
swedish is a beautiful language. :headbang2:

Oh i'm sure it is. However I am a struggling young man without the time or the desire to learn a new language. It was not my intention to offend you.

that doesn't offend me. :P i just think it's a cool language.

 8)
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Lucifer on November 24, 2008, 02:52:35 PM
But that was wrong. "Testikel" is "testicle" in Swedish -- in singularis. In pluralis it's "testiklar".

er, that's "singular" and "plural", actually.

but never mind - thank you for helping me to learn swedish, lit.  as a thank you pressie, here's (http://www.mininova.org/tor/432256) something, just for you.  :-*

oh, and testiklar.   :thumbup:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 02:55:45 PM
But that was wrong. "Testikel" is "testicle" in Swedish -- in singularis. In pluralis it's "testiklar".

er, that's "singular" and "plural", actually.

but never mind - thank you for helping me to learn swedish, lit.  as a thank you pressie, here's (http://www.mininova.org/tor/432256) something, just for you.  :-*

oh, and testiklar.   :thumbup:

You're a PhD and don't know that the correct forms (in Latin) are "singularis" and "pluralis"?  ::) The other forms are short forms.

Like when you stupid Anglos call Marcus Antonius "Marc Anthony" or Johannes "John".  ::)
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: DirtDawg on November 24, 2008, 02:56:11 PM
So, tell me why that's a bad thing.


It's not a bad thing, as long at it keeps out the 3rd world scum we have comming  into most European countries. It's a bad thing when it prevents decent northern and western Europeans to move to the USA.


Quote

Nah, we won't fight over our new president, except in the usual way.

As far as Iran, we have a well publicised plan for staying out of any armed conflict with them as well as alternate plans. The Iranians also know of the expectations placed upon them by most of the free world's powers. It's like getting a speeding ticket, Tig. You can easily prevent them. You know what is going to happen if you do certain things. Iran can prevent an invasion of her soil.

I also doubt that our "Chicago-Tough"  President Elect will be as easy to influence with FUD presented by military advisers, filling him with cowboy daydreams, as was our lame duck President.


You can never know that for sure. Kennedy was the one who dragged the USA into the Vietnam war, but that is forgotten, since he got shot long before the war went disastrous for you.


... forgotten? Hardly. Go back even further to find more blame.
Truman supporting France in the continued administration of its colonial French Indo-China after WWII, knowing full well that a declaration of independence from French rule by the Viet Minh was eminent, seems to get a bye, also.
Dulles (Secretary of State in the Eisenhower cabinet) made the entire state of affairs about "rolling back" communism around the world in the way he presented the issues of the growing conflict to the American public, despite the fact that Viet Minh forces (Communists) had aided and rescued several of our downed pilots during the war with Japan, everyone ignores.
The Eisenhower administration, not signing the 1954 Geneva Accord (temporary independence for French Indo-China, with a division at the "Seventeenth Parallel" while elections could be held), instead, sending military training forces (and MONEY!) to set up an army for a faction opposing the Viet Minh (led by Diem, an Indo-Chinese Catholic) in the southern part of the colony, no one cares about.
Conniving Kennedy's role is completely forgiven, due to a "Magic Bullet."
When the US Destroyer Maddox and the USS Turner Joy first began shelling the coast of Viet Nam, it was in response to a sonar alert they perceived as an attack, which turned out to be each other's propeller beats, is also forgiven.


The point was that even a "peaceloving" president can start a war or intervene more in an ongoing one.

So, now, President Elect Obama is "peaceloving?"

Have you been listening to him?

OK, even simpler: you can't predict what he will and will not do.

... and yet you ARE making predictions.

For example:

Your next war will either be with Iran, despite that Obama is president, or a civil war because Obama is president.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 03:01:41 PM
... and yet you ARE making predictions.

For example:

Your next war will either be with Iran, despite that Obama is president, or a civil war because Obama is president.

If there will be a new war, it will be either against Iran or a civil war. That is to 90% predictable. But it's not predictable whether there actually will be one at all.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Lucifer on November 24, 2008, 03:12:12 PM
But that was wrong. "Testikel" is "testicle" in Swedish -- in singularis. In pluralis it's "testiklar".

er, that's "singular" and "plural", actually.

but never mind - thank you for helping me to learn swedish, lit.  as a thank you pressie, here's (http://www.mininova.org/tor/432256) something, just for you.  :-*

oh, and testiklar.   :thumbup:

You're a PhD and don't know that the correct forms (in Latin) are "singularis" and "pluralis"?  ::) The other forms are short forms.

weeeeeell, call me eccentric, but i was writing in english.   :hahaha:

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Like when you stupid Anglos call Marcus Antonius "Marc Anthony" or Johannes "John".  ::)

don't be daft - we call him mark antony (no H*).

* i put that capital letter in just for you, lit - do you feel loved now?   :angel:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: DirtDawg on November 24, 2008, 03:16:11 PM
... and yet you ARE making predictions.

For example:

Your next war will either be with Iran, despite that Obama is president, or a civil war because Obama is president.

If there will be a new war, it will be either against Iran or a civil war. That is to 90% predictable. But it's not predictable whether there actually will be one at all.

Correction noted.


(http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8593.0;attach=7626)
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 03:21:24 PM
weeeeeell, call me eccentric, but i was writing in english.   :hahaha:


Even a Swedish elementary teacher, at least when I went to elementary school, would use the Latin terms.

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don't be daft - we call him mark antony (no H*).

* i put that capital letter in just for you, lit - do you feel loved now?   :angel:

Why do you anglizise Latin names? In Sweden we use the same names as the Romans themselves did.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: odeon on November 24, 2008, 03:45:05 PM
Why do you anglizise Latin names? In Sweden we use the same names as the Romans themselves did.

It's "anglicise". ::)
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Lucifer on November 24, 2008, 03:45:27 PM
weeeeeell, call me eccentric, but i was writing in english.   :hahaha:


Even a Swedish elementary teacher, at least when I went to elementary school, would use the Latin terms.

really?  how nice.

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Quote

don't be daft - we call him mark antony (no H*).

* i put that capital letter in just for you, lit - do you feel loved now?   :angel:

Why do you anglizise Latin names?

"anglizise"?  come now, lit, that's a bizarre spelling even for you.  or are you typing in a german accent?

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In Sweden we use the same names as the Romans themselves did.

do you eat dormice, too?
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 03:47:25 PM
Why do you anglizise Latin names? In Sweden we use the same names as the Romans themselves did.

It's "anglicise". ::)

No, it's "anglicize"; I mixed up the letters. Still according to my Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary of Current English.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on November 24, 2008, 03:48:45 PM
Wow, lots of germans, intresting.

Do the germans posses something over the other ethnics or something, besides chocolate, and nuclear weapons?
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Lucifer on November 24, 2008, 03:50:43 PM
Why do you anglizise Latin names? In Sweden we use the same names as the Romans themselves did.

It's "anglicise". ::)

No, it's "anglicize"; I mixed up the letters. Still according to my Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary of Current English.

well modified, but sad that i read the original post but didn't quote it.

so lit, do you mix up letters often?

and btw, the clue is in the title of that dictionary you use as a bible (and which no-one has ever heard of, whom i've asked): "learners".  i'm not a learner anymore, as far as english is concerned.  

shall i order some L-plates* for you?

*another capital letter - are you wetting your panties yet?  if so, can you aim it into your own gob?
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Lucifer on November 24, 2008, 03:52:33 PM
Wow, lots of germans, intresting.

Do the germans posses something over the other ethnics or something, besides chocolate, and nuclear weapons?

flo, you are absolutely precious.  they should declare you a national treasure.

:LMAO:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 03:53:45 PM
really?  how nice.

That has to do with culture, something that you hardly would recognize, since you allied with Soviet Russia against the most civilized country in Europe during WWII.

Quote
do you eat dormice, too?

No, but shrimps.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 03:55:40 PM
Wow, lots of germans, intresting.

Do the germans posses something over the other ethnics or something, besides chocolate, and nuclear weapons?

Typical German traits are: obedience, courage, logic, order, workaholism, cleanliness, thoroughness etc.  ;)
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: ALLDAYGLOWRANDY on November 24, 2008, 03:57:41 PM
Wow, lots of germans, intresting.

Do the germans posses something over the other ethnics or something, besides chocolate, and nuclear weapons?

flo, you are absolutely precious.  they should declare you a national treasure.

:LMAO:

Do you feel any better that I have those? :laugh:

The nuclear weapons, in my opinion, have been abused, all over a stupid warr stupid war.  Quality of life would be better if everyone would just be friends, but the selfish war is all that matters.  Well there you go, next time you feel bad about your handicapp, others do it to.

Wow, lots of germans, intresting.

Do the germans posses something over the other ethnics or something, besides chocolate, and nuclear weapons?

Typical German traits are: obedience, courage, logic, order, workaholism, cleanliness, thoroughness etc.  ;)

Fuckn figures :laugh:  Where did you  get that one from?  I might want to read the things around it also, because there, logically, maybe something else of intrest there.

Oh my, critical errors there,  must be something I  felt responsible for, in at least in some part.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 03:58:03 PM

and btw, the clue is in the title of that dictionary you use as a bible (and which no-one has ever heard of, whom i've asked): "learners".  i'm not a learner anymore, as far as english is concerned.  

It's not as famous as Webster's, but do you think that they spell words with "z" to learn people wrong?
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: odeon on November 24, 2008, 03:59:53 PM
Why do you anglizise Latin names? In Sweden we use the same names as the Romans themselves did.

It's "anglicise". ::)

No, it's "anglicize"; I mixed up the letters. Still according to my Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary of Current English.

Yes, dear, of course you did.

 :hahaha:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 04:00:23 PM
Fuckn figures :laugh:  Where did you  get that one from?  I might want to read the things around it also, because there, logically, maybe something else of intrest there.

It's US Goverment's own statistics from 2000: United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States). Check out for "Demographics"!  ;)
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: odeon on November 24, 2008, 04:03:16 PM
Wow, lots of germans, intresting.

Do the germans posses something over the other ethnics or something, besides chocolate, and nuclear weapons?

Typical German traits are: obedience, courage, logic, order, workaholism, cleanliness, thoroughness etc.  ;)

Practically everything you're not, then. Don't know how cleanly you are but you're certainly still wet behind the ears.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Lucifer on November 24, 2008, 04:06:17 PM

and btw, the clue is in the title of that dictionary you use as a bible (and which no-one has ever heard of, whom i've asked): "learners".  i'm not a learner anymore, as far as english is concerned.  

It's not as famous as Webster's, but do you think that they spell words with "z" to learn people wrong?

"...to teach people incorrectly," i think you'll find.  :hahaha:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Lucifer on November 24, 2008, 04:07:37 PM
Wow, lots of germans, intresting.

Do the germans posses something over the other ethnics or something, besides chocolate, and nuclear weapons?

Typical German traits are: obedience, courage, logic, order, workaholism, cleanliness, thoroughness etc.  ;)

Practically everything you're not, then. Don't know how cleanly you are but you're certainly still wet behind the ears.

 i was right - the women he gets off with are blind, and can't aim.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 04:12:51 PM
Wow, lots of germans, intresting.

Do the germans posses something over the other ethnics or something, besides chocolate, and nuclear weapons?

Typical German traits are: obedience, courage, logic, order, workaholism, cleanliness, thoroughness etc.  ;)

Practically everything you're not, then. Don't know how cleanly you are but you're certainly still wet behind the ears.

I'm courageous. Building "road sign busters" in the kitchen isn't exactly riskless.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: odeon on November 24, 2008, 04:21:53 PM
Wow, lots of germans, intresting.

Do the germans posses something over the other ethnics or something, besides chocolate, and nuclear weapons?

Typical German traits are: obedience, courage, logic, order, workaholism, cleanliness, thoroughness etc.  ;)

Practically everything you're not, then. Don't know how cleanly you are but you're certainly still wet behind the ears.

I'm courageous. Building "road sign busters" in the kitchen isn't exactly riskless.

Keep on doing it, then.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Parts on November 24, 2008, 04:38:17 PM
Wow, lots of germans, intresting.

Do the germans posses something over the other ethnics or something, besides chocolate, and nuclear weapons?

Typical German traits are: obedience, courage, logic, order, workaholism, cleanliness, thoroughness etc.  ;)

Practically everything you're not, then. Don't know how cleanly you are but you're certainly still wet behind the ears.

I'm courageous. Building "road sign busters" in the kitchen isn't exactly riskless.

What exactly are "road sign busters"?
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 04:45:02 PM
Wow, lots of germans, intresting.

Do the germans posses something over the other ethnics or something, besides chocolate, and nuclear weapons?

Typical German traits are: obedience, courage, logic, order, workaholism, cleanliness, thoroughness etc.  ;)

Practically everything you're not, then. Don't know how cleanly you are but you're certainly still wet behind the ears.

I'm courageous. Building "road sign busters" in the kitchen isn't exactly riskless.

What exactly are "road sign busters"?

Funny little thingies that you use to blow up road signs with when, for instance, the pigs have given you a speed ticket.  :eyebrows:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Parts on November 24, 2008, 05:04:51 PM
Wow, lots of germans, intresting.

Do the germans posses something over the other ethnics or something, besides chocolate, and nuclear weapons?

Typical German traits are: obedience, courage, logic, order, workaholism, cleanliness, thoroughness etc.  ;)

Practically everything you're not, then. Don't know how cleanly you are but you're certainly still wet behind the ears.


I'm courageous. Building "road sign busters" in the kitchen isn't exactly riskless.

What exactly are "road sign busters"?

Funny little thingies that you use to blow up road signs with when, for instance, the pigs have given you a speed ticket.  :eyebrows:

How old are you and do you still have all your fingers  :o  I just knock them down with my truck :laugh:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 05:06:34 PM
I'll soon be 38 and still have all my fingers. Don't have a truck and an explosion is 100 times more fun.  8)
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Parts on November 24, 2008, 05:08:28 PM
I still have all mine too but there have been many close calls :laugh:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Christopher McCandless on November 24, 2008, 05:51:14 PM
Wow, lots of germans, intresting.

Do the germans posses something over the other ethnics or something, besides chocolate, and nuclear weapons?
:lol:
Jew-bashing credentials - whoopsie, did I mention the war?
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 05:54:36 PM
The wars. They're BRAVE!  :litigious: :hitler: :arrr:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Parts on November 24, 2008, 05:57:11 PM
Where I live is supposed to be Italian not to sure about that just as many of Irish ancestry  I am mostly of Irish extraction the rest German  
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: SovaNu on November 24, 2008, 05:57:28 PM
german chocolate bites.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 06:00:21 PM
Where I live is supposed to be Italian not to sure about that just as many of Irish ancestry  I am mostly of Irish extraction the rest German  

That's good. The Irish are BRAVE too. Just look at the IRA!  :arrr: :tooledup:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Leto729 on November 24, 2008, 06:07:51 PM
I'm Danish and Greman and English too.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 06:09:43 PM
That's good, Kevv!  :)
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: SovaNu on November 24, 2008, 06:11:56 PM
i'm a niggerjewlatinomulattospicdicktransvestitemick :headbang2:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 06:14:06 PM
No, you're an Irish moomintroll with a thing for valium and vodka.  :P
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: SovaNu on November 24, 2008, 06:18:12 PM
and you're a crazy swede with a thing for hitler and tramadol :orly:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 06:19:43 PM
:good:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Callaway on November 24, 2008, 06:27:05 PM
I always thought that the majority of the USA had British ancestry, especially the states in the north and east. Now it turns out that most of the whole country has German ancestry. Even Florida and Alaska are mostly inhabitated by people of German descent.

Though there seems to be some logical mistake. People can't be of European and "American" descent at the same time, except for the natives of course, but they already have their own place on this map.

Weirdly enough, there are no Swedes on the map. More than 10 million Swedes have moved to the USA. That's more than the whole population of Sweden today. Either they're confused with Norwegians or don't look at themselves as Swedes anymore.

This map represents a plurality (not a majority) of people in each county or parish in the US who self-identify with ancestry from a particular country in the 2000 census.

So, even though 10 million Swedes moved to America, they must have scattered and assimilated rather than congregating in particular counties.

Also, a great number of Americans are of mixed ancestry, like me and my husband, for example.  I'm of mostly British ancestry, with some Cherokee, and he's of mostly British, German, Swiss, Norman, and Cherokee ancestry, and his surname is Anglicized from the name of a Viking settlement in England.  I think we told the census taker just American, after we explained the complexity of the actual situation.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 06:45:25 PM
Not a majority, no, but as I understand it there are more people identifying themselves as Germans than any other group. So, for instance, if there are 33% people of German ancestry in a county, there is no other single group with a higher %-age than 33 in that district, right?

I think most Swedes identify themselves as "Americans". There are some almost pure Swedish towns in Minnesota, but they might still view themselves as Americans.

And Callaway also knows how to spell anglicized, as opposed to the "PhD" and the Moomintroll. 
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Leto729 on November 24, 2008, 06:52:38 PM
I see Myself as Danish more than German or English in the end.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: duncvis on November 24, 2008, 06:55:29 PM
I'm courageous. Building "road sign busters" in the kitchen isn't exactly riskless.

What exactly are "road sign busters"?

Like ghostbusters, but without the cool outfits and catchy theme tune.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 06:57:08 PM
I see Myself as Danish more than German or English in the end.

Danes are good people. They love beer and cigars and aren't that politically correct as the Swedes.  :)
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 24, 2008, 06:58:28 PM
I'm courageous. Building "road sign busters" in the kitchen isn't exactly riskless.

What exactly are "road sign busters"?

Like ghostbusters, but without the cool outfits and catchy theme tune.

Depends. They're usually black on the outside and the "tune" is like that of a stick of dynamite... :evillaugh:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Callaway on November 24, 2008, 11:12:40 PM
Not a majority, no, but as I understand it there are more people identifying themselves as Germans than any other group. So, for instance, if there are 33% people of German ancestry in a county, there is no other single group with a higher %-age than 33 in that district, right?

I think most Swedes identify themselves as "Americans". There are some almost pure Swedish towns in Minnesota, but they might still view themselves as Americans.

And Callaway also knows how to spell anglicized, as opposed to the "PhD" and the Moomintroll. 

Yes, as I understand it, you are right.

I think that you and I spell words such as "Anglicized" the American way while Lucifer and Odeon are spelling them the British way, so we are all correct.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Lucifer on November 25, 2008, 02:34:24 AM
I'm courageous. Building "road sign busters" in the kitchen isn't exactly riskless.

What exactly are "road sign busters"?

Like ghostbusters, but without the cool outfits and catchy theme tune.

:LMAO:   :plus:

what about the giant marshmallow monster?
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: odeon on November 25, 2008, 03:00:54 AM
I think that you and I spell words such as "Anglicized" the American way while Lucifer and Odeon are spelling them the British way, so we are all correct.

Funny how you know it, I know it, and the "PhD" knows it, but Lit doesn't.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 25, 2008, 03:09:51 AM
American spelling is actually often more etymologically correct than the British, since it's often older. British English surely will be even more simplified in the future so that the Arabs will learn it faster.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: SovaNu on November 25, 2008, 03:31:45 AM
american english rocks. :headbang2:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: TheoK on November 25, 2008, 03:42:01 AM
The land of the free...and the home of the BRAVE!  :arrr:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: McGiver on December 01, 2008, 07:33:11 AM
Den vapenvägrande "liberale" finnen som röstade på ett parti som införde en avlyssningslag som Stalin skulle avundas Sverige skriver däremot alltid läsvärt och, framförallt, ärligt.

So easy to reduce you to this. Poor Lit; do you think posting in Swedish here makes you special?

::)
the hockey helmet and short bus is what makes him special
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: DirtDawg on December 01, 2008, 03:04:31 PM
I think that you and I spell words such as "Anglicized" the American way while Lucifer and Odeon are spelling them the British way, so we are all correct.

Funny how you know it, I know it, and the "PhD" knows it, but Lit doesn't.

Don't forget that the resident high school drop-out also knows "it."

No, I have not bothered to publicise my (tested on numerous occasions) IQ, but I look at some of those who have repeatedly claxoned from upon high mount, chorus after chorus of proclamation supporting their assertions of superior intelligence and I begin to feel quite enabled. Please, keep up the trumpeting, as it continually re-builds my sprained ego.

Thank you. All of you.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: odeon on December 01, 2008, 03:40:35 PM
I think that you and I spell words such as "Anglicized" the American way while Lucifer and Odeon are spelling them the British way, so we are all correct.

Funny how you know it, I know it, and the "PhD" knows it, but Lit doesn't.

Don't forget that the resident high school drop-out also knows "it."

No, I have not bothered to publicise my (tested on numerous occasions) IQ, but I look at some of those who have repeatedly claxoned from upon high mount, chorus after chorus of proclamation supporting their assertions of superior intelligence and I begin to feel quite enabled. Please, keep up the trumpeting, as it continually re-builds my sprained ego.

Thank you. All of you.

:laugh:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: DirtDawg on December 01, 2008, 04:14:47 PM
I think that you and I spell words such as "Anglicized" the American way while Lucifer and Odeon are spelling them the British way, so we are all correct.

Funny how you know it, I know it, and the "PhD" knows it, but Lit doesn't.

Don't forget that the resident high school drop-out also knows "it."

No, I have not bothered to publicise my (tested on numerous occasions) IQ, but I look at some of those who have repeatedly claxoned from upon high mount, chorus after chorus of proclamation supporting their assertions of superior intelligence and I begin to feel quite enabled. Please, keep up the trumpeting, as it continually re-builds my sprained ego.

Thank you. All of you.

:laugh:

 :lol:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: odeon on December 01, 2008, 04:16:57 PM
TBH, sometimes I feel like HAL the computer in 2001... "My mind is going. I can feel it. My mind is going..."
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Lucifer on December 01, 2008, 04:59:20 PM
TBH, sometimes I feel like HAL the computer in 2001... "My mind is going. I can feel it. My mind is going..."

nah - you're a better shag than HAL.  :smarty:   :eyebrows:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Callaway on December 01, 2008, 07:30:08 PM
I think that you and I spell words such as "Anglicized" the American way while Lucifer and Odeon are spelling them the British way, so we are all correct.

Funny how you know it, I know it, and the "PhD" knows it, but Lit doesn't.

Don't forget that the resident high school drop-out also knows "it."

No, I have not bothered to publicise my (tested on numerous occasions) IQ, but I look at some of those who have repeatedly claxoned from upon high mount, chorus after chorus of proclamation supporting their assertions of superior intelligence and I begin to feel quite enabled. Please, keep up the trumpeting, as it continually re-builds my sprained ego.

Thank you. All of you.

You're welcome.

:smarty:

Why did you drop out?
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: DirtDawg on December 01, 2008, 07:59:31 PM
I think that you and I spell words such as "Anglicized" the American way while Lucifer and Odeon are spelling them the British way, so we are all correct.

Funny how you know it, I know it, and the "PhD" knows it, but Lit doesn't.

Don't forget that the resident high school drop-out also knows "it."

No, I have not bothered to publicise my (tested on numerous occasions) IQ, but I look at some of those who have repeatedly claxoned from upon high mount, chorus after chorus of proclamation supporting their assertions of superior intelligence and I begin to feel quite enabled. Please, keep up the trumpeting, as it continually re-builds my sprained ego.

Thank you. All of you.

You're welcome.

:smarty:

Why did you drop out?

I failed English and ran off to join a rock band in my senior year.

 :violin:
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 01, 2008, 09:17:15 PM
I think that you and I spell words such as "Anglicized" the American way while Lucifer and Odeon are spelling them the British way, so we are all correct.

Funny how you know it, I know it, and the "PhD" knows it, but Lit doesn't.

Don't forget that the resident high school drop-out also knows "it."

No, I have not bothered to publicise my (tested on numerous occasions) IQ, but I look at some of those who have repeatedly claxoned from upon high mount, chorus after chorus of proclamation supporting their assertions of superior intelligence and I begin to feel quite enabled. Please, keep up the trumpeting, as it continually re-builds my sprained ego.

Thank you. All of you.

You're welcome.

:smarty:

Why did you drop out?

I failed English and ran off to join a rock band in my senior year.

 :violin:
If I were not doing an easy degree then I would do a similar thing. Seriously - I hate being in the 3rd most out of date university in England.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: DirtDawg on December 01, 2008, 10:12:44 PM

Tread with grim deliberation upon this trail, for the "ease" of the course is the reason I failed.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: klox on December 02, 2008, 02:42:24 AM
not doing an easy degree then I would do a similar thing. Seriously - I hate being in the 3rd most out of date university in England.

What is stopping you from going to a better one?
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 02, 2008, 02:02:17 PM
not doing an easy degree then I would do a similar thing. Seriously - I hate being in the 3rd most out of date university in England.

What is stopping you from going to a better one?
It is a top university, I have just wisely chosen my modules to make it piss. I could transfer - but to where? Its the other students here I dislike - I don't think it would be massively better elsewhere to tell the truth. Unless I downsize to a shite university of course.
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on November 12, 2014, 08:13:48 PM
Quote
based on affinity, freedom, and openness."

That is the only attractive part in my opinion. To be fair though Theo, a lot of what I see you talk about usually has to do with hating something.

In short terms: society is not there for you or me, it's there for the rich and powerful. Therefore, it must be torn down and the powerful must surrender their power to the individuals.

When you actually find enough people to accomplish this, i'll be interested. But still, in a few generations there would be problems with the society you fought to create anyway. Possibly even worse than before.

Wow!  Rage arguing AGAINST Anarchism??
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on December 14, 2014, 04:19:31 PM
bump.  8)
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: odeon on December 15, 2014, 12:02:11 AM
bump.  8)

Why?
Title: Re: The United States of America are...German!
Post by: Yuri Bezmenov on December 10, 2016, 11:45:16 PM
bump.  8)

Why?

Why ask why?

Try Bud Dry!!