this article sums up everything I hate about the whiners on WP

[Tom/Mutate]

http://www.wrongplanet.net/article346.html

The only comment I like on that page is the one from Enigmatic Oddity - 4th from the bottom.  What a pathetic bunch of "the world owes me" whiners!

[purposefulinsanity]

That was the attitude that put me off WP- really I can't read much that illustrates discrimination from the airline, but she certainly gave them a lot of put up with.

[McGiver]

i cannot follow your link.
i enjoy the stability of my PC too much.

if you wouldn't mind pasting a few....

[purposefulinsanity]

But we DID disability training!

Yes, they actually said that to me, after I had a seizure after I had a meltdown because my stupid airline made me miss my flight-I suggested, via someone reading what I was typing (I am always nonverbal post seizure. ALWAYS) that perhaps their front desk people needed some training re: invisible disabilities. The title is her response. Mine, which vocal proxy did not read was "My ass" followed by "either they did a piss poor job or they need to do it again."

 I flew US Airways to Boston from Spokane, WA for hanging out with a friend and the national ASA conference. The guy in Spokane was WONDERFUL, even upgraded me to first class when I had a half hour layover, and called them to tell them to hold the plane till they scanned my ticket. Good thing, as it was a good quarter to half mile between gates and my flight went in late. The flight crews themselves, both directions, were pretty good if a bit patronizing. But the desk people in Boston, they really SUCKED.

See, what happened is this: I had a 6:40 AM flight. America West and US Airways are partners. So we waited in the US Airways line and then they sent us over to America West. This was at about 6:35, traffic was TERRIBLE. My friend told the people at America West that I had 5 minutes to make a plane. "Wait in line" they say. And we waited for over half an hour, because they were so busy getting people on a 7 AM flight to Vegas. Happy gamblers are repeat customers? I don't know.

So. We wait until long after I miss the flight, because they don't LISTEN. Something that bears mention at this point is that I *cannot* get up really early, my choices are miss whatever or stay up all night. I took the latter option. Lack of sleep makes people easier to "set off" so to speak. The first desk person we saw was totally unhelpful, she said she couldn't get me on a plane till 8 PM, I'd get home at 1 AM MDT. My ride back here to Montana can NOT drive in the dark. They had a lot of trouble with that concept. She got snottier and snottier and offered about 5 options that all ended between 10PM and 3AM. At this point there is crumpling and tears and "I just want to go HOME!" fairly loudly.

With me so far? So, I want to go home, and clearly this is very threatening, because this equally stupid desk lady snaps at me to calm down. Bad Idea. Feel the power of my roar: "DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!!!". We had told them over 10 times that I'm autistic. We had told them over 20 times that I needed to get home. And what does Moron Number Two do? "If you don't calm down right now I'm calling the police." Police kill people like me, dumbass. Well, what came out was "Oh that's brilliant. Arrest or kill someone for YOU making her miss her flight. Gods am I glad I'm not NT". Not helpful, but neither were any of them.

Then their managerial person who's had, like, actual training tells my friend and I to go sit in these chairs and they'll see what they can do. But wait. On the way to the chairs there's a clonic-tonic seizure. A rather long one, I heard. So they bring even MORE useless people: paramedics. Unless you have phenobarb on you there isn't a damn thing that can be done about my seizures except waiting them out. I wake up nonverbal and with a hangover, sign "what the hell??" to my friend, who verbally informs me that I had a seizure. My hands say "no shit". So there's me signing her verbal plus sign for 5 minutes or so and the paramedic asks if I'm deaf. Very shortly after reading both of my medicalerts, neither of which mentions deafness. No, numbnuts, I'm postictal. This is why I am not allowed to type at people immediately after a seizure. They make me sign a thing that says I refuse treatment (what are they going to do? Look at me and listen to accounts and say "yep, that was a seizure"? I mean really...) and they go away. After asking 10 times variants of was I sure, was I allowed to make my own medical decisions, et cetera.

Then shows up curly headed managerial woman, as my friend and I are watching gymnastics videos and I'm typing some very rude things. "well there's 9 AM through here, and 9:30 through here, and you'd be home by 4". Gee thanks. It's 9:15. She doesn't talk to me at all, just to my friend. Autistic and epileptic=not really there, clearly. She makes demeaning comments on my ability to self administer meds (something I've done since I've been on them) and my ability to travel independantly-which I have done for 5 or 6 years now. NOT too impressed. This is when I suggest the disability training, since clearly the concept of an invisible disability is currently beyond the comprehension of their desk staff-typed exactly that way, mocking her for thinking I'm stupid. Big words. More than 2 syllables.

"But we DID disability training".

If I'd been in a chair they'd have been falling over each other to get me to my plane on time. If I had crutches, a walker, a cane, whatever. And they'd have tolerated a lot more than an airport shaking "don't tell me what to do!", were the difference obvious. But epilepsy and autism are invisible and SCARY, and make me a danger to myself or others somehow, and frighten them. So it's 'oh god, get rid of the autistic person and talk to the normal (ha. she's also autistic) friend'.

So, my response to the claim of training remains the same:

"My ass."

[apatura_iris]

Maybe she's so low functioning that she really can't tell she's coming across as a hostile whiner.

If her stringencies for travelling are so strict, and she cannot risk cancelled, missed, or delayed flights, perhaps she should avoid airports if humanly possible, or she should only take direct flights if transfers are too much for her.

There is something to be said for recognizing one's limits.

[Scrapheap]

Maybe she's so low functioning that she really can't tell she's coming across as a hostile whiner.

If her stringencies for travelling are so strict, and she cannot risk cancelled, missed, or delayed flights, perhaps she should avoid airports if humanly possible, or she should only take direct flights if transfers are too much for her.

There is something to be said for recognizing one's limits.

QFT!!! +

[Tom/Mutate]

If I was working on a busy help desk and met an autistic like this, I would beat them like a red headed step child.  And if they produced their "Autism Alert" card, I would take it, read it, roll it carefully up and insert it in a painful place.  (assuming they are not tougher than me of course)

[El]

That's a situation where I'd be pissed as a paid customer, and I dont think my disability would cross my mind unless it was "God, I need a Xanax."  I certainly woulnd't think it was their responsibility to calm me down as an autistci person.  Perhaps I can't speak because I'm not impaired enough or something, though.   

[McGiver]

That's a situation where I'd be pissed as a paid customer, and I dont think my disability would cross my mind unless it was "God, I need a Xanax."  I certainly woulnd't think it was their responsibility to calm me down as an autistci person.  Perhaps I can't speak because I'm not impaired enough or something, though.   

we are all impaired PMS Elle. by our own excuses.

[El]

Funny, I've been told I take on too much responsibility for my actions.  I think there's a middle- for example, I can't imagine arguing the poster had control over their seisure.

[McGiver]

Funny, I've been told I take on too much responsibility for my actions.  I think there's a middle- for example, I can't imagine arguing the poster had control over their seisure.

finally i am getting some answers.

so she had a sizure.

remember i won't click WP links because i care about the stability for my PC.

[El]

Funny, I've been told I take on too much responsibility for my actions.  I think there's a middle- for example, I can't imagine arguing the poster had control over their seisure.

finally i am getting some answers.

so she had a sizure.

remember i won't click WP links because i care about the stability for my PC.

PI quoted the post some posts above me.

[McGiver]

Funny, I've been told I take on too much responsibility for my actions.  I think there's a middle- for example, I can't imagine arguing the poster had control over their seisure.

finally i am getting some answers.

so she had a sizure.

remember i won't click WP links because i care about the stability for my PC.

PI quoted the post some posts above me.

how did that happen, i click the blue (new) flag and i am not supposed to miss a thing.

carry on, forget my statements here for they have no relevence.

[apatura_iris]

I remember once being at the local Kmart, a baby and two toddlers in my cart, trying to haul my way through closely spaced clothing racks.  Suddenly an elderly-ish lady steps right in front of my cart and stays there, looking at some of the clothing on the rack.  I stop in my tracks for a minute hoping she'll notice me and take a couple steps to the side.  Finally I cough up: "Excuse me."  She looks up, glares at me and barks, "YOU go around.  I have a disability!"

[Mr Smith]

The world owes you nothing. My mother has been drumming it into me all my life, and I do believe it. I can't stand all these people with disabilities and old people that think the world owes them something.

They can all kiss my arse.