i dunno if i want to read them. i don't feel it's my right if she didn't want them to be seen.
It's a very accurate insite into Lucifer's true character. She's not what she appears to be. You only see an image of Lucifer that she wants you to see.
i've seen Lucifer be kind and sweet and i have seen you be an peaguy so who do i trust on this issue? 
Ummm…you’re being somewhat naïve here, Bjork. People with NPD (and other manipulative disorders) will be ingratiatingly nice to people, so long as it serves their purposes. They’re very good at inspiring blind loyealty in people, and they often have “friends†who point blank refuse to listen to the POV of their “enemies†or to weigh up the evidence for themselves., before launching themselves into an an all-out assault against said enemies.
(Yep, like Hardon, I’ve encounterered ‘em before, both IRL and on-line. In one case, the guy in question pre-emptively accused me. and another person of “spreading lies†about him, just because we knew a thing or two about him, which he feared becoming public knowledge Nobody had any idea what these “lies†were, ‘cause we hadn’t actually spread them about, but that didn’t stop his friends laying into us on his say-so. He’d been sweet as pie to them, so they trusted him)
I’m not saying that Lucifer has NPD (If I’m gonna throw my two cents in, I’d say it looks more like APD or good-old-fashioned psycopathy to me.) All I’m saying is , if you’re trying to tell us that Lucifer doesn’t have NPD, nor any of those other personality disorders, then you’re shooting yourself in the foot.
I remember Tom and his little army of followers and sycophants. I have no idea of what kind of diagnosis he had (NPD or whatever) but they did attack you and others to keep the truth from coming out about him.
I dunno what diagnoss he had either, Callaway; and he told do many lies to protect his precious "dignity" there's no taking his word for anything, dx included. I think most people concluded NPD, for good reasons. The hat certainly fit. A few thought APD (which is someitmes misdianosed as AS, btw, but usually goes undiagnosed)
Of course I don't see Lucifer attacking anyone in a preemptive strike to keep information from coming out like Tom did.
True. and I didn't mean to suggest that she did. I was just citing that as an exampleof the kind of blind loyaty such charaters can inspire. No direct analogy intended.
For what it's worth, I don't think she has NPD either. I think she has some sort of ASD, like most of the rest of us.
Yes, but that wouldn't rule out other conditions, besides. I don't think anybody's seriously questioned her ASD diagnosis.
Would a person with NPD freely admit that they are not a "nice" person? I think they would be too concerned with their image to do that.
I know that Tom, whatever he has, would never do that. [/quote]
Agreed. Not
very likely (but, then, there's that guy who shot John Lennon, for example. If people with NPD can't manage to pass for saints, they'll often settle for notoriety instead. See Calandales' point above)
But I'm quibbling. It's actually what you might call the contrast beteen Lucifer and Tom (to sum it up succinctly) that makes me think more in terms of APD iin Lucifer's case
~Walkie
PS. I did
try not to mention Tom by name *chuckle*. I should've picked a lesser-known example, perhaps, but that one was too good to resist.
