Nothing has changed? Mate, it looks like Skyblue is crestfallen and
miserable, he has backed away from a more hands on role, AspieMomma
perhaps not as hands on and Cynara having a more hands on frontline
role. That sounds like big changes. Skyblue apologising and wanting to
distance himself from what was said, seems like a change.
I think the three above are having a hard time. Probably best
letting these questions go a bit. I have a few gripes about the start
of his forum and mine. But I honestly think that there can not be
enough Autism Activism and Advocacy sites. I don't know how Skyblue
will go long term but I actually would not mind giving him the best
chance to do so. I think it would be awesome for a successful Activism
site to come out of all of this and in spite of all of this. If he can
do this then kudos to him and I would support that. I just think
letting it a go for now may give it best chance and pursuing things
may jeopardise that chance.
Not saying the question is good, bad or indifferent or you ate good,
bad or indifferent asking. Just would love to see this thread buried.
have mentioned it several times. So yes it is true[/u].I do not have control of the AFF blog. In fact i have accused you of taking it from me. (someone changed the password and locked me out). It being the main reason I have been pisssed with you. You were the only other person who had the password. Any way someone has been deleting my work there also.mytelli was getting on everyone about the lack of activism at AFF
That kind of thing always struck me as strange. Complaining about lack of activism without constructive doing anything.
Had a look at AFN the other day and saw there were some decent autism news and activism type threads on there. That is construcyive. Saw too that you had not allowed the AFF blog to die. More decent articles there. That is all constructive.
Dunno why people just whinge
That is more attention than it got while AFF was alive.
Makes me wonder if somehow or another Amy has grabbed it.
~ Dunno ~
Now on the subject of honesty, I have hears a rumour from a number of surprising sources that you have been telling your members in the members area of your forum that I am wanting you to fail and actively promoting this with others and that is my intent. Is that truth or am I subject to many lies from many people?
If it is true, why are you lying about me on your forum?
I do not consider my self to be spreading false truths. As we are not a youth or kiddie forum as you have been spreading around. And I do not give away modships and admin status. Just to lure people from a forum as you have done to AFN
If you accuse me of lying, you best have some way to prove it.
Just like I cant prove what I say, you cant prove that you havent.
If you are trying to start shit with me, I will say my meds help me to not give a fuck either way, about how you feel.
Very strange that you would allow others to be able to ban you.
The only permission that is not granted to my admins is the power to change admin permissions. Also I do control the backend to my forum, so not even AspieMomma can take it down.
I have granted cynara permission to open and close the board. That in case I get suicidal again and close it down. My fees are paid for two years (cheaper than what you say you are paying for one year) so AFN will continue busy or not, with or without me, for some time to come.
Any thing else?
No. Al and El Pres are the new Amy and Gareth. ;)
I prefer that board, though. Its more like this one.
Yes, it is and that's cool.
We just want something more like what AFF was - supportive, informative, with an emphasis on advocacy. It would be hard to add a youth component to a site like that, and that is important to us because autistic kids need that support more than anyone.
There was a small youth section on AFF. The young members mostly posted where everyone else did, and their contributions were treated the same.
We all find commonalities in others online. Why set the youth apart?
AFF may have started as an advocacy forum. but it was mostly a support and general discussion forum near the end. Are you looking to set things back to the way AFF once was?
Also, why can't there just be one thread on the skyblue1/AspieMomma forum? Why do I have to click back and forth? :( :P
By "youth" forum, I mean younger than AFF would have allowed.
My oldest son is 9. He would benefit from interacting with other kids with AS and learning about self-advocacy from someone other than his mommy. ;)
Different age groups would have more/less moderation in their forums and access only to certain forums. Adults shouldn't have access to the youth forums unless they have children there. They should remain private forums so that what is posted there isn't easily available on the internet.
I would like to see a greater emphasis on advocacy, but that really is up to the membership. I hope to have a more active advocacy component to the site beyond forum posting.
You must click back and forth as penance for you misdeeds in a past life.
Here you run into problems. Read this (http://www.business.ftc.gov/documents/bus84-childrens-online-privacy-protection-rule-six-step-compliance-plan-your-business) before you decide to let young children join. Will the site be based in the US?
What's the point of segregating people? Philosophically, it only serves to divide us as a community. Don't curebies do that enough? Also, why be ageist about moderation? Are you trying to create an online preschool for aspies? If so, why would adults want to join? Practically, it limits options. I can see an adult forum for sex-related issues, just for legal reasons. AFF's youth forum was rarely used. Why not allow adults to comment on youth threads? Are you worried about online predators?
EXACTLY.
Thats what I SAID. I told you would have to get parental consent...also separating the forums makes them more vulnerable to predators who pose as children.
At least, it will make you more paranoid about members. Will you turn into skyblue1 and see new members as potential psychopathic sock puppets?
It might work if you have a special forum only for children of established members, but I don't know if that's worth the risk to you.
We were going to put together a board before AFF went down
That board was to be a youth and young adult board.
......Our board wont be about grudges or revenge
and also wont be a rehash of I^2.
Cause everyone knows
there is only one I^2.
since I dont care about this nonsense
and wanting to give the courtesy of a reply
I yield
allow me to clarify
dont remember sayin much in the staff forum about you
most of what I have said was in open thread
or by PM ( which is entirely not your business)
So as you can see if you scan our threads and posts
was not much.
It is by rights as a person that I can complain if I wish.
As stated already
I yield
actually I haven t started a damn thing
I simply answered his question (honestly and upfront)
in BG's thread, unless that reply has been deleted also.
as I said there he cant prove innocence of what I said
The same as I cannot prove anything on him.
And since some one removed my callout of grumpy
which was posted first
why should I participate in his
which is just beating a dead horse
of course entertainment for y'all
But still a dead horse
methinks thou doth protest too much and too loudlyallow me to clarify
dont remember sayin much in the staff forum about you
most of what I have said was in open thread
or by PM ( which is entirely not your business)
So as you can see if you scan our threads and posts
was not much.
It is by rights as a person that I can complain if I wish.
As stated already
I yield
Hmmm....not "that much" or "PM" <==== As I said, you are being a sneaky little shit, sneaking around after a mea culpa and apology and resolution, talking shit about me and spreading lies whilst reporting it as fact. It is what I WAS saying.
That you don't remember is neither here nor there, liars do not often have great memories, that is why they have holes poked into their defences very easily.
I think yu yielded before too. You know, that "I am so very sorry, I apologise. I love you guys I feel like ending it all" kind of comment NOW THAT is a yield. Having yielded, what did you set about doing?
(I will give you a hint. Starts with "Sneaked around behind Al and tried to backstab him..." and ends with"because pill popping Silverback wannabees can not handle the humility do not understand when they are better to accept a lose and move on, AND think that having expressed deepest darkest depression, will allow them to fight unaccosted")
Methinks you do not think as much as you think you think. :lol1:go bully xomeone else
I tell you what. How about you tell us what you were expecting. Something like "I will under a cease fire go spreading dissent against the person I yielded and who took mercy on my massive attack of the sads. (The person who pitied me), and taht person will do nothing in return because it is just silliness?
Something like that? You have free reign because i ought to take such arseholeness is OK because you are having a hard time at the moment, and if I respond somehow it is BECAUSE there is some truth in it?
Yup too many pills. What you described is no more part of reality than the lies you spread around.
This is a natural reaction to you not being about to take a lose. Not being able to accept responsibility for your actions and frankly failing as a man....again.
Methinks you do not think as much as you think you think. :lol1:go bully xomeone else
I tell you what. How about you tell us what you were expecting. Something like "I will under a cease fire go spreading dissent against the person I yielded and who took mercy on my massive attack of the sads. (The person who pitied me), and taht person will do nothing in return because it is just silliness?
Something like that? You have free reign because i ought to take such arseholeness is OK because you are having a hard time at the moment, and if I respond somehow it is BECAUSE there is some truth in it?
Yup too many pills. What you described is no more part of reality than the lies you spread around.
This is a natural reaction to you not being about to take a lose. Not being able to accept responsibility for your actions and frankly failing as a man....again.
You know what the "funny thing' here is Skyblue?if you wish to make a temp account at AFN
You trying to shame me will not stop me. You are not in the right and will just be a hypocrite for trying.
You doing a big sad again will not work on me. I think now it is a tactic to give you free reign to be an asshat without being attacked. A way of getting wriggle room to get away from situations.
You fighting me will go nowhere because you are not in the right.
You yielding will not do much for you either as i have seen what happens when you yield and the same goes for your worthless apologies.
So....what else have you got?
You know what the "funny thing' here is Skyblue?if you wish to make a temp account at AFN
You trying to shame me will not stop me. You are not in the right and will just be a hypocrite for trying.
You doing a big sad again will not work on me. I think now it is a tactic to give you free reign to be an asshat without being attacked. A way of getting wriggle room to get away from situations.
You fighting me will go nowhere because you are not in the right.
You yielding will not do much for you either as i have seen what happens when you yield and the same goes for your worthless apologies.
So....what else have you got?
I will give you mod status for 24 hours so
you can see exactly what is in our staff notes.
Cyber bullying is against the law
That is what I consider this callout.
As I answered your question in BG's thread, honestly,
Bully someone else.
Take me up on my offer or not
You will find my Staff notes rather boring.
But in the interest of transparency, you are welcome to look
I am totally responsible for everything
that has happened here and anywhere else in my life
I apologies to everyone
concerned with this matter
and with all other matters
if I could die
I would
I cannot take it any longer
apologies to all
He is slowly distancing himself from his support website. he doesn't appear to be an admin over there. seems he took my advice on the whole "Image" thingy. :trollface:He told me he is no longer Admin that Aspiemomma and others are running the site. He does not want anyone's personal animosity toward him to adversely affect the AFN site.
He is not suicidal but he is feeling down and out at this point. This per phone conversation a little while ago.
Nothing has changed? Mate, it looks like Skyblue is crestfallen and miserable, he has backed away from a more hands on role, AspieMomma perhaps not as hands on and Cynara having a more hands on frontline role. That sounds like big changes. Skyblue apologising and wanting to distance himself from what was said, seems like a change.
I think the three above are having a hard time. Probably best letting these questions go a bit. I have a few gripes about the start of his forum and mine. But I honestly think that there can not be enough Autism Activism and Advocacy sites. I don't know how Skyblue will go long term but I actually would not mind giving him the best chance to do so. I think it would be awesome for a successful Activism site to come out of all of this and in spite of all of this. If he can do this then kudos to him and I would support that. I just think letting it a go for now may give it best chance and pursuing things may jeopardise that chance.
Not saying the question is good, bad or indifferent or you ate good, bad or indifferent asking. Just would love to see this thread buried.
have mentioned it several times. So yes it is true.
Now on the subject of honesty, I have hears a rumour from a number of surprising sources that you have been telling your members in the members area of your forum that I am wanting you to fail and actively promoting this with others and that is my intent. Is that truth or am I subject to many lies from many people?
If it is true, why are you lying about me on your forum?
I do not consider my self to be spreading false truths. As we are not a youth or kiddie forum as you have been spreading around. And I do not give away modships and admin status. Just to lure people from a forum as you have done to AFN
If you accuse me of lying, you best have some way to prove it.
Just like I cant prove what I say, you cant prove that you havent.
If you are trying to start shit with me, I will say my meds help me to not give a fuck either way, about how you feel.
Very strange that you would allow others to be able to ban you.
The only permission that is not granted to my admins is the power to change admin permissions. Also I do control the backend to my forum, so not even AspieMomma can take it down.
I have granted cynara permission to open and close the board. That in case I get suicidal again and close it down. My fees are paid for two years (cheaper than what you say you are paying for one year) so AFN will continue busy or not, with or without me, for some time to come.
Any thing else?
other than correcting grumpy's statement that I broke up with AspieMomma ( she broke up with me).....
I yield
Dont care about your callout,
Perhaps you can sic your lapdogs on me again.
If you cant face me in person with your bullshit
Just shut the fuck up.
I yield....
....I yield
....As stated already
I yield
As stated I yield.
go bully xomeone else
Cyber bullying is against the law
That is what I consider this callout.
As I answered your question in BG's thread, honestly,
Bully someone else....
if you wish to make a temp account at AFN
I will give you mod status for 24 hours so
you can see exactly what is in our staff notes.
What a fucking dumbass you are
You have seen my rule
either comply or dont
doesnt matter
No, I haven't seen the rule, if one even exists. You have no posted list of rules (or you didn't when I could still see your site), and you didn't have a rule against proxies before you used the "rule" to ban me.
Why not answer the rest of the points in the OP?
I will not allow your blacklisted proxies
sorry
aint happening
They are all known Spam Harvesters and Comment Spammers
....I have granted cynara permission to open and close the board. That in case I get suicidal again and close it down. My fees are paid for two years (cheaper than what you say you are paying for one year) so AFN will continue busy or not, with or without me, for some time to come.....
...... In that Sky started off announcing that I was going to start my own forum and have it up in 24 hours and so on. It was the first I knew. Having experienced difficulties of his own in getting it up and running and being that he alone had access to the email addresses and was Admin of the temp forum full of ex-AFF'ers and I was no longer a member there, it was him setting me up to either fail or scramble back to him to ask to be retained as his dutiful lackey an apologise for my impatience.
He failed......
By the way Skyblue, What was that racist comment those years ago that got Max and co jumping all over you.I said that if some blacks could pick them selves up by their bootstrings and function in this white world. And at the same time be as black as they wished to be when they werent around white folk.
I don't remember, but as you were all suicidal then too, I am guessing you would remember, yeah?
C'mon, share.
By the way Skyblue, What was that racist comment those years ago that got Max and co jumping all over you.I said that if some blacks could pick them selves up by their bootstrings and function in this white world. And at the same time be as black as they wished to be when they werent around white folk.
I don't remember, but as you were all suicidal then too, I am guessing you would remember, yeah?
C'mon, share.
That surely Aspies could do the same. Just a matter of learning what the NT world expected form folks.
Learn it and we can fit in. But at the same time be ourselves when we are alone and that we would not have to lose our Aspieness by fitting in.
Your old ass isnt butthurt is it grumpy,
Are are you still promoting your site
By making me look bad (which you havent, everyone already knows I was a horses ass)
Nice work. But this is to be expected from you.
So you arent any different than you ever were
And yes I have had no reason to be alive for most of my life
And will be content when it is over. So I can move on to the next
I am sure my karma will show that I learned from this lifetime
and I will not be forced to reincarnate here
Be my luck I would come back as your dog. And end up being kicked around for the rest of your miserable life.
Have a wonderful grumpy day! And thanks for giving folk a reason to notice me.
Even I couldnt come up with a self-promotion like this.
have mentioned it several times. So yes it is true.I do not have control of the AFF blog. In fact i have accused you of taking it from me. (someone changed the password and locked me out). It being the main reason I have been pisssed with you. You were the only other person who had the password. Any way someone has been deleting my work there also.mytelli was getting on everyone about the lack of activism at AFF
That kind of thing always struck me as strange. Complaining about lack of activism without constructive doing anything.
Had a look at AFN the other day and saw there were some decent autism news and activism type threads on there. That is construcyive. Saw too that you had not allowed the AFF blog to die. More decent articles there. That is all constructive.
Dunno why people just whinge
That is more attention than it got while AFF was alive.
Makes me wonder if somehow or another Amy has grabbed it.
~ Dunno ~
Now on the subject of honesty, I have hears a rumour from a number of surprising sources that you have been telling your members in the members area of your forum that I am wanting you to fail and actively promoting this with others and that is my intent. Is that truth or am I subject to many lies from many people?
If it is true, why are you lying about me on your forum?
I do not consider my self to be spreading false truths. As we are not a youth or kiddie forum as you have been spreading around. And I do not give away modships and admin status. Just to lure people from a forum as you have done to AFN
If you accuse me of lying, you best have some way to prove it.
Just like I cant prove what I say, you cant prove that you havent.
If you are trying to start shit with me, I will say my meds help me to not give a fuck either way, about how you feel.
Very strange that you would allow others to be able to ban you.
The only permission that is not granted to my admins is the power to change admin permissions. Also I do control the backend to my forum, so not even AspieMomma can take it down.
I have granted cynara permission to open and close the board. That in case I get suicidal again and close it down. My fees are paid for two years (cheaper than what you say you are paying for one year) so AFN will continue busy or not, with or without me, for some time to come.
Any thing else?
Quite interesting that you think you have won something here.By the way Skyblue, What was that racist comment those years ago that got Max and co jumping all over you.I said that if some blacks could pick them selves up by their bootstrings and function in this white world. And at the same time be as black as they wished to be when they werent around white folk.
I don't remember, but as you were all suicidal then too, I am guessing you would remember, yeah?
C'mon, share.
That surely Aspies could do the same. Just a matter of learning what the NT world expected form folks.
Learn it and we can fit in. But at the same time be ourselves when we are alone and that we would not have to lose our Aspieness by fitting in.
Your old ass isnt butthurt is it grumpy,
Are are you still promoting your site
By making me look bad (which you havent, everyone already knows I was a horses ass)
Nice work. But this is to be expected from you.
So you arent any different than you ever were
And yes I have had no reason to be alive for most of my life
And will be content when it is over. So I can move on to the next
I am sure my karma will show that I learned from this lifetime
and I will not be forced to reincarnate here
Be my luck I would come back as your dog. And end up being kicked around for the rest of your miserable life.
Have a wonderful grumpy day! And thanks for giving folk a reason to notice me.
Even I couldnt come up with a self-promotion like this.
Yes, yes black people should be more white and a black person who is not embracing his "whiteness" and disavowing his "blackness" is a very bad black person. I agree, excellent argument.
No wonder you were jumped on :lol1:
But on a more serious note, I am so glad you asked about my promotion and marketing (rather than make paranoid fear based projections that somehow involve your site). Yes I have the promotion and marketing kind of on hold at the moment...sort of.
I am getting a little bloke from overseas to find and record a heap of autism and aspergers based points of contact of individuals (the may be forums, blogs, social media...whatever. I am expecting ...maybe 1000? Something like that. Start building a network.
I am also waiting a couple of weeks for a member driven poll on something design-wise before finishing up the design of the forum now the member base is stable. Then I have a list of 3000+ people on the spectrum that I will email.
Couple more endevours in the pipeline.
None of this promotion has ANY impact or is beholden to you or your forum.
Oh and I do not have a dog and am not an animal person. :P
Am I butthurt? No, you ought to know "So you arent any different than you ever were" that I am not. I will not have you or anyone backstab me without giving pretty good account of myself. That you seemed to allow yourself to forget this orrun the risk just says a lot about how fucking silly you are.
It is not me being silly or butthurt or anything else you may try to spin. You wanted to be a sneaky slimy lying cowardly insecure little grub and you got stepped on for your efforts.
You ought to have known that there was never a reality where carrying on like you did, against me, was ever going to have a favourable outcome. You ought to have known that. See I also know that you are likely depressed, have anxiety disorder, would bet on Post-traumatic stress and paranoia, but you know what? That is not a free ride from ever being responsible for anything you do or say, is it? Take your pills, keep your conspiracy theories to yourself and never for a moment think that I will not respond to attacks on me or my forum. You know better.
So being that you know better and when you got butthurt about me not wanting to combine forum (and decided to try and spread lies about me) what did you bloody think would happen?
Actually as late as 2008 you stated on AFF that you were not DX'ed. When someone mentioned it , the next week you became DX'ed
Actually I was diagnosed in 2002 by Dr Roger Patterson. Max was not self-diagnosed. He said he was ADHD and his boyfriend was diagnosed Aspergers. You seem to be clueless?
I never said the Max incident was 2010 or 2008. I never specified a year. So I guess you are the dolt? Yes?
Actually as late as 2008 you stated on AFF that you were not DX'ed. When someone mentioned it , the next week you became DX'ed
Actually I was diagnosed in 2002 by Dr Roger Patterson. Max was not self-diagnosed. He said he was ADHD and his boyfriend was diagnosed Aspergers. You seem to be clue
I never said the Max incident was 2010 or 2008. I never specified a year. So I guess you are the dolt? Yes?
If you deny this, you are lying.
And yes you did say 2010 for the Max debacle, you modified the post that was in.
what part of yield do you not understand
perhaps it means something else in Aussie land
Fuck off, dude
Bully someone who gives a shit
I can feel good that not everyone sees me as you dowhat part of yield do you not understand
perhaps it means something else in Aussie land
Fuck off, dude
Bully someone who gives a shit
You "yielded" on Sept 5th then 6weeks later were found lying aboit me to others (bullying?) THAT is what yielding means to you.
"I yield. Leave me alone so I will be able too come at you some other way"
That is you Skyblue. That is the yellow spineless cowardly dishonourable dishonest spiteful petty toad of a man you are.
What did you honestly think would happen when you tried this shit on. That I would say "he is spreading lies? Oh that joker. Can't call him yo rights because of the ceasefire he is breaking because he is still all sad."
Fuck you Slyblue. You should not have restarted your arsehattery. You did and so the public sees what you are. Not my fault I just holding the mirror
I can feel good that not everyone sees me as you dowhat part of yield do you not understand
perhaps it means something else in Aussie land
Fuck off, dude
Bully someone who gives a shit
You "yielded" on Sept 5th then 6weeks later were found lying aboit me to others (bullying?) THAT is what yielding means to you.
"I yield. Leave me alone so I will be able too come at you some other way"
That is you Skyblue. That is the yellow spineless cowardly dishonourable dishonest spiteful petty toad of a man you are.
What did you honestly think would happen when you tried this shit on. That I would say "he is spreading lies? Oh that joker. Can't call him yo rights because of the ceasefire he is breaking because he is still all sad."
Fuck you Slyblue. You should not have restarted your arsehattery. You did and so the public sees what you are. Not my fault I just holding the mirror
You are the asshat, as you started this crap
If you dont want answers (BG's thread) quit asking questions.
I can feel good that not everyone sees me as you dowhat part of yield do you not understand
perhaps it means something else in Aussie land
Fuck off, dude
Bully someone who gives a shit
You "yielded" on Sept 5th then 6weeks later were found lying aboit me to others (bullying?) THAT is what yielding means to you.
"I yield. Leave me alone so I will be able too come at you some other way"
That is you Skyblue. That is the yellow spineless cowardly dishonourable dishonest spiteful petty toad of a man you are.
What did you honestly think would happen when you tried this shit on. That I would say "he is spreading lies? Oh that joker. Can't call him yo rights because of the ceasefire he is breaking because he is still all sad."
Fuck you Slyblue. You should not have restarted your arsehattery. You did and so the public sees what you are. Not my fault I just holding the mirror
You are the asshat, as you started this crap
If you dont want answers (BG's thread) quit asking questions.
somewhere between then and October 31st you restarted shit by smearing myself and my forum.
I can feel good that not everyone sees me as you dowhat part of yield do you not understand
perhaps it means something else in Aussie land
Fuck off, dude
Bully someone who gives a shit
You "yielded" on Sept 5th then 6weeks later were found lying aboit me to others (bullying?) THAT is what yielding means to you.
"I yield. Leave me alone so I will be able too come at you some other way"
That is you Skyblue. That is the yellow spineless cowardly dishonourable dishonest spiteful petty toad of a man you are.
What did you honestly think would happen when you tried this shit on. That I would say "he is spreading lies? Oh that joker. Can't call him yo rights because of the ceasefire he is breaking because he is still all sad."
Fuck you Slyblue. You should not have restarted your arsehattery. You did and so the public sees what you are. Not my fault I just holding the mirror
You are the asshat, as you started this crap
If you dont want answers (BG's thread) quit asking questions.
somewhere between then and October 31st you restarted shit by smearing myself and my forum.
I reserve the right as a person to say what I wish when I wish to people personally, by PM, or in thread on my board.
Who the fuck are you, that I would have to or need to lie about or to
Maybe this thread needs to speculate on Skyblue's state of mind as a means to inform his demeanour and emotional instability and immaturity, whilst noting his rather suspect personality deficiencies? (lying, spitefulness, pettiness, in ability to accept blame or accountability, projection and other shortcomings)
So what can I gauge and speculate?
He was born and raised in the Southern States of US. Raised in the 50's and 60's with a Father he had a difficult relationship with.
He went to Vietnam as a (now was it a medic or a soldier - pretty sure it was a medic) in the Vietnam War) in the Late 60's or early 70's.
God only knows what this alone could do to a young Skyblue - Difficult Father, Undiagnosed Aspie, Vietnam Vet survivor.
So how did it affect him? Well between then and now, He at some point lobbed into AFF as a older recently diagnosed (then) Aspie and was a hairdresser and confirmed bachelor. I naturally assumed he was gay. Not so because he managed to briefly date Aspiemomma. I personally have no problem with the fact that Aspiemomma appears to be in her mid to late 20's and I would generally consider a lady that young as too young for me and Skyblue is as old as my Father. Each to their own, they are consenting.
What was a bit off was him mentioning her in his bed and sleeping with her and basically her and he mutually satisfying each other sexually. Very Schoolboyish.
Of course I have seen a new side of him and it just gets worse and worse.
Paranoia and possibly PTSD and Depression, but also Persecution Complex perhaps. In short, the guy is perhaps a bit of a basket case and possibly has good reason for being a nutsy crazy person. It does not excuse him for the choices he makes or the people he chooses to lie about or bullshit about. There is a clear line between him forcing his crazy on others or him being crazy and keeping his crazy to himself. I am happy to keep my criticism of him to myself but not whilst he is being a paranoid loon.
I wonder if His girlfriend is proud of behavior like this? I'd be embarrassed if my dad was acting like that, :trollface:well yes she does
she is sitting right here
with my hand up her night gown
and if shed quit moaning she
might laugh
sorry gotta go
we goin have sex
Ah yes my mistake. Unabashedly redneck Southerner (or was that Kapkao who was unabashedly redneck, getting you two confused - but Southerner all the same) but born in Germany. I do remember now you saying that you were from Germany.well well what are we talking about now
Yes I see how much of a nice guy you are and how this shines from you. Completely misunderstood no doubt. I read that 50 page thread the other day and an the way you treat everyone on there is simply appalling and a "nice guy" would know this. Even down to this revolting remarkI wonder if His girlfriend is proud of behavior like this? I'd be embarrassed if my dad was acting like that, :trollface:well yes she does
she is sitting right here
with my hand up her night gown
and if shed quit moaning she
might laugh
sorry gotta go
we goin have sex
What decent guy would post something like this about someone he cares about? This is schoolboy stuff. This is no better than DFGL posting his cock to all and sundry and in fact the fact tat it involves a lady we know and who you were supposed to care about says a lot of pretty bad things about you and none of it "pretty nice".
As for citing things here in respect to your lying, I have, get up to speed. You are not upfront, you are a weasel.
The only hidden forum is the staff forum. Really? OK. I will believe the lie because when I just looked there was no forum designated members only. So therefore there is ONLY the staff forum hidden and everything else is public. So I have to accept that you did not lie about this and I incorrectly accused you......excepting of course that before accepting this as truth, I took the liberty of going to the members and checking the post counts of the non-staff against the number of actual posts that show up on the Find posts function. The posts that did not come up to a guest are because they are located on hidden forums and as they are not staff, it is not hidden staff forums. Oh fucking SNAP!
You and your Dad are fine? Really? I am glad to hear that. I was under the misunderstanding that he had just died. I am glad that is not the case and that you two are fine and have a good relationship. I hope whatever ill or sickness he has recovered from.
I do recall you saying that you and he had a difficult relationship. Not uncommon, I do not have a good relationship with my Father. That said, I suspected the difficulties derived as most difficulties in early formative years rather than after childhood, as you seem to now indicate ir was only your Mother then who is or was an issue. Fleshes out the blanks better regardless.
General discharge. Hey plenty of Vets were discharged generally. Discharged and back into a world where their service was an embarrassment at best and a thing of disgust at worst. Where those that coped with what they saw and what they did and the brutality of it all had to be locked away because it was not wanted or needed anymore. That kind of shit sent a few of my Father's friends nuts. Some seemed to manage. some were shellshocked and obviously scarred but the majority used drugs or drink to suppress such things. Such men did not settle down or have family because they were scarcely more equipped to deal with family and commitment than their shellshocked peers.
Terrible thing. Those guys now have the appearance of the hard years of drink and drugs. Those that are still around that is. Gaunt, drawn skin, and haggard appearance. Sometimes those characteristics express themselves in age in any case without having the wearer engage in such things "therapeutically". I noticed your appearance in your photo had some of this and I was taken aback. But then at the time I thought "Hey the guy is in his 60's, it is not necessarily bought on by excessive drugs and/or drink". I honestly do not know if it is or not and it is none of my business. It was idle thoughts. I was simply describing what happened to my Father's friends coming back and the injustice of the Vietnam War.
As for what is wrong dating a 22 year old? Nothing at all. They are old enough to date. Plenty of 22 year old girls at my workplace. They all date. They have nice 23 or 24 year old boyfriends. It is nice. They are nice kids and just starting to learn about serious relationships as we all did at that age. My baby brother's eldest daughter is 22. I myself do not date or sleep with girls that are that kind of age. I think once you start dating kids young enough to be your own child you have to question your own emotional growth. But that is my personal view. I do not think this changes when you are dating kids young enough to be the grandchildren of your age-peers. I thin that is even more strange and maybe a little perverse. Each to their own though
You tare not paranoid? Oh Dear Lord. I guess I should not have expected you to admit it. I wonder what Semicolon would have to say about that....I mean hair. Do you feel more comfortable if I call him Chair? Sit down in the corner on the SemiColon and we can sift that train wreck of a psyche of yours. The drugs you are on? I do not think they are helping your cognitive processes
Ah yes my mistake. Unabashedly redneck Southerner (or was that Kapkao who was unabashedly redneck, getting you two confused - but Southerner all the same) but born in Germany. I do remember now you saying that you were from Germany.well well what are we talking about now
Yes I see how much of a nice guy you are and how this shines from you. Completely misunderstood no doubt. I read that 50 page thread the other day and an the way you treat everyone on there is simply appalling and a "nice guy" would know this. Even down to this revolting remarkI wonder if His girlfriend is proud of behavior like this? I'd be embarrassed if my dad was acting like that, :trollface:well yes she does
she is sitting right here
with my hand up her night gown
and if shed quit moaning she
might laugh
sorry gotta go
we goin have sex
What decent guy would post something like this about someone he cares about? This is schoolboy stuff. This is no better than DFGL posting his cock to all and sundry and in fact the fact tat it involves a lady we know and who you were supposed to care about says a lot of pretty bad things about you and none of it "pretty nice".
As for citing things here in respect to your lying, I have, get up to speed. You are not upfront, you are a weasel.
The only hidden forum is the staff forum. Really? OK. I will believe the lie because when I just looked there was no forum designated members only. So therefore there is ONLY the staff forum hidden and everything else is public. So I have to accept that you did not lie about this and I incorrectly accused you......excepting of course that before accepting this as truth, I took the liberty of going to the members and checking the post counts of the non-staff against the number of actual posts that show up on the Find posts function. The posts that did not come up to a guest are because they are located on hidden forums and as they are not staff, it is not hidden staff forums. Oh fucking SNAP!
You and your Dad are fine? Really? I am glad to hear that. I was under the misunderstanding that he had just died. I am glad that is not the case and that you two are fine and have a good relationship. I hope whatever ill or sickness he has recovered from.
I do recall you saying that you and he had a difficult relationship. Not uncommon, I do not have a good relationship with my Father. That said, I suspected the difficulties derived as most difficulties in early formative years rather than after childhood, as you seem to now indicate ir was only your Mother then who is or was an issue. Fleshes out the blanks better regardless.
General discharge. Hey plenty of Vets were discharged generally. Discharged and back into a world where their service was an embarrassment at best and a thing of disgust at worst. Where those that coped with what they saw and what they did and the brutality of it all had to be locked away because it was not wanted or needed anymore. That kind of shit sent a few of my Father's friends nuts. Some seemed to manage. some were shellshocked and obviously scarred but the majority used drugs or drink to suppress such things. Such men did not settle down or have family because they were scarcely more equipped to deal with family and commitment than their shellshocked peers.
Terrible thing. Those guys now have the appearance of the hard years of drink and drugs. Those that are still around that is. Gaunt, drawn skin, and haggard appearance. Sometimes those characteristics express themselves in age in any case without having the wearer engage in such things "therapeutically". I noticed your appearance in your photo had some of this and I was taken aback. But then at the time I thought "Hey the guy is in his 60's, it is not necessarily bought on by excessive drugs and/or drink". I honestly do not know if it is or not and it is none of my business. It was idle thoughts. I was simply describing what happened to my Father's friends coming back and the injustice of the Vietnam War.
As for what is wrong dating a 22 year old? Nothing at all. They are old enough to date. Plenty of 22 year old girls at my workplace. They all date. They have nice 23 or 24 year old boyfriends. It is nice. They are nice kids and just starting to learn about serious relationships as we all did at that age. My baby brother's eldest daughter is 22. I myself do not date or sleep with girls that are that kind of age. I think once you start dating kids young enough to be your own child you have to question your own emotional growth. But that is my personal view. I do not think this changes when you are dating kids young enough to be the grandchildren of your age-peers. I thin that is even more strange and maybe a little perverse. Each to their own though
You tare not paranoid? Oh Dear Lord. I guess I should not have expected you to admit it. I wonder what Semicolon would have to say about that....I mean hair. Do you feel more comfortable if I call him Chair? Sit down in the corner on the SemiColon and we can sift that train wreck of a psyche of yours. The drugs you are on? I do not think they are helping your cognitive processes
more shit you dont know anything about
most of the military shit was gone over in callout with butterflies
that was richard I was talking to when speaking of AM, she was sitting right beside me and thought it was funny as hell.
and no I wasnt actually doing that with her
sorry I cant read most of the rest of your wall of text bullshit
wasnt this about your forum originally and you being butthurt about something
you pay far to much attention to moi.
my, my. what an ego you haveAh yes my mistake. Unabashedly redneck Southerner (or was that Kapkao who was unabashedly redneck, getting you two confused - but Southerner all the same) but born in Germany. I do remember now you saying that you were from Germany.well well what are we talking about now
Yes I see how much of a nice guy you are and how this shines from you. Completely misunderstood no doubt. I read that 50 page thread the other day and an the way you treat everyone on there is simply appalling and a "nice guy" would know this. Even down to this revolting remarkI wonder if His girlfriend is proud of behavior like this? I'd be embarrassed if my dad was acting like that, :trollface:well yes she does
she is sitting right here
with my hand up her night gown
and if shed quit moaning she
might laugh
sorry gotta go
we goin have sex
What decent guy would post something like this about someone he cares about? This is schoolboy stuff. This is no better than DFGL posting his cock to all and sundry and in fact the fact tat it involves a lady we know and who you were supposed to care about says a lot of pretty bad things about you and none of it "pretty nice".
As for citing things here in respect to your lying, I have, get up to speed. You are not upfront, you are a weasel.
The only hidden forum is the staff forum. Really? OK. I will believe the lie because when I just looked there was no forum designated members only. So therefore there is ONLY the staff forum hidden and everything else is public. So I have to accept that you did not lie about this and I incorrectly accused you......excepting of course that before accepting this as truth, I took the liberty of going to the members and checking the post counts of the non-staff against the number of actual posts that show up on the Find posts function. The posts that did not come up to a guest are because they are located on hidden forums and as they are not staff, it is not hidden staff forums. Oh fucking SNAP!
You and your Dad are fine? Really? I am glad to hear that. I was under the misunderstanding that he had just died. I am glad that is not the case and that you two are fine and have a good relationship. I hope whatever ill or sickness he has recovered from.
I do recall you saying that you and he had a difficult relationship. Not uncommon, I do not have a good relationship with my Father. That said, I suspected the difficulties derived as most difficulties in early formative years rather than after childhood, as you seem to now indicate ir was only your Mother then who is or was an issue. Fleshes out the blanks better regardless.
General discharge. Hey plenty of Vets were discharged generally. Discharged and back into a world where their service was an embarrassment at best and a thing of disgust at worst. Where those that coped with what they saw and what they did and the brutality of it all had to be locked away because it was not wanted or needed anymore. That kind of shit sent a few of my Father's friends nuts. Some seemed to manage. some were shellshocked and obviously scarred but the majority used drugs or drink to suppress such things. Such men did not settle down or have family because they were scarcely more equipped to deal with family and commitment than their shellshocked peers.
Terrible thing. Those guys now have the appearance of the hard years of drink and drugs. Those that are still around that is. Gaunt, drawn skin, and haggard appearance. Sometimes those characteristics express themselves in age in any case without having the wearer engage in such things "therapeutically". I noticed your appearance in your photo had some of this and I was taken aback. But then at the time I thought "Hey the guy is in his 60's, it is not necessarily bought on by excessive drugs and/or drink". I honestly do not know if it is or not and it is none of my business. It was idle thoughts. I was simply describing what happened to my Father's friends coming back and the injustice of the Vietnam War.
As for what is wrong dating a 22 year old? Nothing at all. They are old enough to date. Plenty of 22 year old girls at my workplace. They all date. They have nice 23 or 24 year old boyfriends. It is nice. They are nice kids and just starting to learn about serious relationships as we all did at that age. My baby brother's eldest daughter is 22. I myself do not date or sleep with girls that are that kind of age. I think once you start dating kids young enough to be your own child you have to question your own emotional growth. But that is my personal view. I do not think this changes when you are dating kids young enough to be the grandchildren of your age-peers. I thin that is even more strange and maybe a little perverse. Each to their own though
You tare not paranoid? Oh Dear Lord. I guess I should not have expected you to admit it. I wonder what Semicolon would have to say about that....I mean hair. Do you feel more comfortable if I call him Chair? Sit down in the corner on the SemiColon and we can sift that train wreck of a psyche of yours. The drugs you are on? I do not think they are helping your cognitive processes
more shit you dont know anything about
most of the military shit was gone over in callout with butterflies
that was richard I was talking to when speaking of AM, she was sitting right beside me and thought it was funny as hell.
and no I wasnt actually doing that with her
sorry I cant read most of the rest of your wall of text bullshit
wasnt this about your forum originally and you being butthurt about something
you pay far to much attention to moi.
No it wasn't.
It was about you lying and spreading lies around because I would not combine your forums because you were butthurt and spiteful after having a month before, turned into a grovelling apologetic and mercy begging, crying mess who we all took pity on and left alone.
In a nutshell.
my, my. what an ego you havewell well what are we talking about now
more shit you dont know anything about
most of the military shit was gone over in callout with butterflies
that was richard I was talking to when speaking of AM, she was sitting right beside me and thought it was funny as hell.
and no I wasnt actually doing that with her
sorry I cant read most of the rest of your wall of text bullshit
wasnt this about your forum originally and you being butthurt about something
you pay far to much attention to moi.
No it wasn't.
It was about you lying and spreading lies around because I would not combine your forums because you were butthurt and spiteful after having a month before, turned into a grovelling apologetic and mercy begging, crying mess who we all took pity on and left alone.
In a nutshell.
why not massage your prostrate with all of itmy, my. what an ego you havewell well what are we talking about now
more shit you dont know anything about
most of the military shit was gone over in callout with butterflies
that was richard I was talking to when speaking of AM, she was sitting right beside me and thought it was funny as hell.
and no I wasnt actually doing that with her
sorry I cant read most of the rest of your wall of text bullshit
wasnt this about your forum originally and you being butthurt about something
you pay far to much attention to moi.
No it wasn't.
It was about you lying and spreading lies around because I would not combine your forums because you were butthurt and spiteful after having a month before, turned into a grovelling apologetic and mercy begging, crying mess who we all took pity on and left alone.
In a nutshell.
Really?
I tell you what. It may just be an ego, you may be right. It may well be just be NPD and have no basis.
Of course if I back up all the baseless lies that I have referenced you making in this thread. Then there may be something in what I say and not just ego
Furthermore if I show your "grovelling apologetic and mercy begging, crying mess" and your admissions to spreading baseless accusations and post the PM showing "I would not combine your forums" this will kind of highlight that your are not the "pretty nice guy" you talk yourself up as but rather the "butthurt and spiteful" worm, I show you to be. That would be logic rather than ego.
Pick which one you want me to post up first.
Your are getting your orifices confused. Ass =\= pacifier. But do not be alarmed you have been talking out of your arse for a while. Such follow on results are entirely expectedNu-uh....you are projecting
my, my. what an ego you have
Really?
I tell you what. It may just be an ego, you may be right. It may well be just be NPD and have no basis.
Of course if I back up all the baseless lies that I have referenced you making in this thread. Then there may be something in what I say and not just ego
Furthermore if I show your "grovelling apologetic and mercy begging, crying mess" and your admissions to spreading baseless accusations and post the PM showing "I would not combine your forums" this will kind of highlight that your are not the "pretty nice guy" you talk yourself up as but rather the "butthurt and spiteful" worm, I show you to be. That would be logic rather than ego.
Pick which one you want me to post up first.
I am totally responsible for everything
that has happened here and anywhere else in my life
I apologies to everyone
concerned with this matter
and with all other matters
if I could die
I would
I cannot take it any longer
apologies to all
Nothing has changed? Mate, it looks like Skyblue is crestfallen and miserable, he has backed away from a more hands on role, AspieMomma perhaps not as hands on and Cynara having a more hands on frontline role. That sounds like big changes. Skyblue apologising and wanting to distance himself from what was said, seems like a change.
I think the three above are having a hard time. Probably best letting these questions go a bit. I have a few gripes about the start of his forum and mine. But I honestly think that there can not be enough Autism Activism and Advocacy sites. I don't know how Skyblue will go long term but I actually would not mind giving him the best chance to do so. I think it would be awesome for a successful Activism site to come out of all of this and in spite of all of this. If he can do this then kudos to him and I would support that. I just think letting it a go for now may give it best chance and pursuing things may jeopardise that chance.
Not saying the question is good, bad or indifferent or you ate good, bad or indifferent asking. Just would love to see this thread buried.
Hey,
Isnt it time we combined boards
I would suggest a user group called Fellows or something similar
this group would have their own Categories and forums not seen by the ordinary
registered users or anyone who happened to be in the parent or youth forum
secret forums
of course the Fellows would be able to post anywhere but the youth and parent forums
two forums in one
Larry
No, Skyblue there was only supposed to be one board, yours. Now I have spent $400 and had to get a new board up and I have. It is down at present but I expect it up shortly.
As you know I would have been happy supporting your board and building it up and now, unfortunately that ship has sailed.
I wish you and your board well of course, always have and I am sure it will go on to bigger and better things. Your plans are not my plans but I no doubt you have big plans for your board as I do mine.
have mentioned it several times. So yes it is true.
Now on the subject of honesty, I have hears a rumour from a number of surprising sources that you have been telling your members in the members area of your forum that I am wanting you to fail and actively promoting this with others and that is my intent. Is that truth or am I subject to many lies from many people?
If it is true, why are you lying about me on your forum?
I do not consider my self to be spreading false truths. As we are not a youth or kiddie forum as you have been spreading around. And I do not give away modships and admin status. Just to lure people from a forum as you have done to AFN
If you accuse me of lying, you best have some way to prove it.
Just like I cant prove what I say, you cant prove that you havent.
If you are trying to start shit with me, I will say my meds help me to not give a fuck either way, about how you feel........
Well grumpy
Fuck you , I am done with your bullshit
Later
have mentioned it several times. So yes it is true[/u].
Now on the subject of honesty, I have hears a rumour from a number of surprising sources that you have been telling your members in the members area of your forum that I am wanting you to fail and actively promoting this with others and that is my intent. Is that truth or am I subject to many lies from many people?
If it is true, why are you lying about me on your forum?
I do not consider my self to be spreading false truths. (but here are a couple that I said that I had no evidence to substantiate the claims I made as statements of fact) As we are not a youth or kiddie forum as you have been spreading around. And I do not give away modships and admin status. Just to lure people from a forum as you have done to AFN
If you accuse me of lying (make statement of fact against my forum that he has no evidence to substantiate IS lying if it is untrue), you best have some way to prove it (No this is this bit where HE shows how he came to that conclusion and where was the evidence.)
Just like I cant prove what I say, you cant prove that you havent. (But I make a damn good case to state that this was bought on through my refuse to combine forums.)
But to be clear here is the things you will have to defend:
the "fact" that I have been spreading around that I want you to fail.
the "fact' that I have been trying to encourage your forum to fail
the 'fact" that I have at some stage referred to your forum as a kiddie forum
the "fact" that I use modships to lure people away from your forum.
I am totally responsible for everything
that has happened here and anywhere else in my life
I apologies to everyone
concerned with this matter
if I could die
I would
I cannot take it any longer
apologies to all
Self Dx'ed Aspies. Who are really nothing more than Aspie bashers, dressed in costume.
Dont want to hear no Dunc's law shit
You know you have done nothing but lie for the last 5 years
Dont want to hear shit about AFN not being activist
We provide the greatest Activism, which is support for our fellow Autist
My complaining about grumpy has beeen 'going on since
AFN started
It is not something new
In fact other than a couple of comments online
has not been mentioned much
So grumpy's feelings that this is something new is incorrect
and could be construed as paranoia on his part
As said before I dont care how he feels
dont have much interest in him and his forum
y
Actually as late as 2008 you stated on AFF that you were not DX'ed. When someone mentioned it , the next week you became DX'ed
If you deny this, you are lying.
And yes you did say 2010 for the Max debacle, you modified the post that was in.
I can feel good that not everyone sees me as you do
You are the asshat, as you started this crap
If you dont want answers (BG's thread) quit asking questions.
somewhere between then and October 31st you restarted shit by smearing myself and my forum.
I reserve the right as a person to say what I wish when I wish to people personally, by PM, or in thread on my board.
Who gives a fat rat's crack what right you reserve. Doing this was both spreading lies and restating shit after you had yielded and ask to be left alone and that is precisely the point. You saying I restarted it is a lie because of this very reason.
See lies are easy to
Find and point out if the person makes them all the time Skyblue
Only hidden forum is staff forum.
its pretty boring, with just instructions for the staff to follow
no conspiracies at all.
That why I could give a shit if grumpy looks, nothing to hide.
of course he would have had no permissons other than the abilitry to see all forums
except the Ladies forum.
The only hidden forum is the staff forum. Really? OK. I will believe the lie because when I just looked there was no forum designated members only. So therefore there is ONLY the staff forum hidden and everything else is public. So I have to accept that you did not lie about this and I incorrectly accused you......excepting of course that before accepting this as truth, I took the liberty of going to the members and checking the post counts of the non-staff against the number of actual posts that show up on the Find posts function. The posts that did not come up to a guest are because they are located on hidden forums....and as the searched members are not staff, the missing posts were not hidden staff forums. Oh fucking SNAP!
Well grumpy
Fuck you , I am done with your bullshit
As this is nothing but a smear campaign
and has no basis in reality
Later
Shit on me and expect I will retaliate.
:lol1: Did you enjoy your cameo on the cartoon Hykie?Shit on me and expect I will retaliate.
* trying, trying, no,.... can't resist. *
The Story of the Little Mole... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1EMZGFHu_Y#)
:lol1: Did you enjoy your cameo on the cartoon Hykie?Shit on me and expect I will retaliate.
* trying, trying, no,.... can't resist. *
The Story of the Little Mole... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1EMZGFHu_Y#)
Shit on me and expect I will retaliate.
* trying, trying, no,.... can't resist. *
The Story of the Little Mole... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1EMZGFHu_Y#)
Shit on me and expect I will retaliate.
* trying, trying, no,.... can't resist. *
The Story of the Little Mole... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1EMZGFHu_Y#)
What a sweet-faced, wise, patient cow that is. Cows are great. :hug:
Hey Al,
How well do you think our lttle argument ploy did?
Did it garner you any newcustomerserrrr members?
I kinda think it might of turned more folks off than anything.
Anyways, next time I get to call you the liar and silly little man.
We will see how it works from that angle.
Your angle sure as fuck, didnt accomplish much.
Son, you didnt prove a goddamned thing
you just ran your mouth
Pretty sure the intelligent would know
you were talking out of your ass.
Nothing wrong with AFN
all that is on the webhost.
I look at your stats too
You had 20 members in 48 hours.
Gee thats just spiffy, aint it.
Son, if you going to keep telling your lies,
you should come look me in the eye
when you say 'em.
Son, you didnt prove a goddamned thing
you just ran your mouth
Pretty sure the intelligent would know
you were talking out of your ass.
Nothing wrong with AFN
all that is on the webhost.
I look at your stats too
You had 20 members in 48 hours.
Gee thats just spiffy, aint it.
Son, if you going to keep telling your lies,
you should come look me in the eye
when you say 'em.