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Arena for the Competitive => Main Event Callouts => Topic started by: El on August 24, 2011, 05:22:41 PM
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Why exactly did you decide to TEXT me at 11:21pm the night before last, instead of sending me a message on here? If I had forgotten to put my cell on silent before going to sleep, I would have been completely fucking ripshit. As it is, I think that was rude, weird, and not OK.
Also, what the FUCK is up with randomly digging upnold shit and 'defending my honor,' or whatever the fuck you think you're doing? You know how much I value privacy and you're giving details about locations? You're not helping, you're acting weird and a little obsessive and it's reaching a point of creeepiness, you're making me uncomfortable, and I want you to lay the fuck off, and lose my number.
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He probably wanted a root, and a beer.
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Obviously it was an inappropriate form of communication and digging up an old subject long resolved. As I read pages and pages of walls of text with what I considered pretty vicious attacks on you, I felt so guilty I wanted to apologize for my part in it, because I believe I contributed to a part of it. I was going to send you a PM, then thought I should make a more personal gesture I was going to e-mail you, but I don't have your e-mail anymore. It popped in my head, "Hey, didn't we exchange texts back in March?" So I checked and finally found them on my iPhone and apologized. I didn't realize the time. I ain't exactly in the greatest emotional state right now.
I meant no harm, but obviously I fucked up. All I can do is apologize profusely. I just felt so horrible that night.
I am not addressing this anymore. When I came here I pointed out how stupid I thought the call out stuff was. There is nothing more for me to say other than apologizing.
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Ok, this is fucking hilarious. :ROFL:
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I have no idea what this is about, but, somebody needs to step back and think. Trust me, I know all about doing stuff without thinking. :-[
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This thread is now officially about British Motorcycles.
Here'a a Triumph Bonneville. 8)
(http://www.allenmotorsports.com/images/motorcycles/Triumph_Bonneville_1959.jpg)
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Here's a Norton Commando :headbang2:
(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/1970-norton-commando-750s-1.jpg)
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You mean they don't just sell security software? :autism:
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Here's a Norton Commando :headbang2:
(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/1970-norton-commando-750s-1.jpg)
Were these used in WWII?
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Here's a BSA Shooting Star. :)
(http://www.theworldofmotorcycles.com/vintagebike-images/bsa_shooting_star_1968_sm.jpeg)
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You mean they don't just sell security software? :autism:
:oneliner:
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Here's a Norton Commando :headbang2:
(http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/1970-norton-commando-750s-1.jpg)
Were these used in WWII?
Don't know TBH. It wouldn't suprise me if they did. Most British bikes were 1930's designs.
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Here's one.
(http://www.theworldofmotorcycles.com/custom-bike-images/c_billy_lane_choppers_sm.jpeg)
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Here's one.
(http://www.theworldofmotorcycles.com/custom-bike-images/c_billy_lane_choppers_sm.jpeg)
What the hell is that??
It's fucking awesome!! :2thumbsup:
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Here's one.
(http://www.theworldofmotorcycles.com/custom-bike-images/c_billy_lane_choppers_sm.jpeg)
What the hell is that??
It's fucking awesome!! :2thumbsup:
I googled British motorcycle images and found that one.
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Why exactly did you decide to TEXT me at 11:21pm the night before last, instead of sending me a message on here? If I had forgotten to put my cell on silent before going to sleep, I would have been completely fucking ripshit. As it is, I think that was rude, weird, and not OK.
Also, what the FUCK is up with randomly digging upnold shit and 'defending my honor,' or whatever the fuck you think you're doing? You know how much I value privacy and you're giving details about locations? You're not helping, you're acting weird and a little obsessive and it's reaching a point of creeepiness, you're making me uncomfortable, and I want you to lay the fuck off, and lose my number.
It's not creepy, and no one gave away your location.
If you wanted this private, why did you post it on a public message board ?
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Why exactly did you decide to TEXT me at 11:21pm the night before last, instead of sending me a message on here? If I had forgotten to put my cell on silent before going to sleep, I would have been completely fucking ripshit. As it is, I think that was rude, weird, and not OK.
Also, what the FUCK is up with randomly digging upnold shit and 'defending my honor,' or whatever the fuck you think you're doing? You know how much I value privacy and you're giving details about locations? You're not helping, you're acting weird and a little obsessive and it's reaching a point of creeepiness, you're making me uncomfortable, and I want you to lay the fuck off, and lose my number.
It's not creepy, and no one gave away your location.
If you wanted this private, why did you post it on a public message board ?
:indeed:
PMS might just have had... PMS. ::) :dunno:
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Keep our comments in the peanut gallery, folks. :orly:
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Keep our comments in the peanut gallery, folks. :orly:
You seem to be mistaken. This thread is about British Bikes! :headbang2:
Here's a Norton 961 Commando. 8)
(http://www.diseno-art.com/images/Norton_Commando_961_SS_rear.jpg)
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Why exactly did you decide to TEXT me at 11:21pm the night before last, instead of sending me a message on here? If I had forgotten to put my cell on silent before going to sleep, I would have been completely fucking ripshit. As it is, I think that was rude, weird, and not OK.
Also, what the FUCK is up with randomly digging upnold shit and 'defending my honor,' or whatever the fuck you think you're doing? You know how much I value privacy and you're giving details about locations? You're not helping, you're acting weird and a little obsessive and it's reaching a point of creeepiness, you're making me uncomfortable, and I want you to lay the fuck off, and lose my number.
It's not creepy, and no one gave away your location.
If you wanted this private, why did you post it on a public message board ?
Because he already took it public, and I think that publically calling him out on his publically uncool behavior might be more likely to prevent it, at this point.
I'd have addressed the text privately if that had been the only issue. As it is, he decided to do what he did for all the bloody board to see, and I view the text now in part of a bigger context. I could get more into it, or not.
Callaway's guess in the peanut gallery is also correct; I've had someone stalk me in the past, including on this baord. Publically calling him out on doing so on this message board seemed to smack him down sufficiently to knock it off, at least on this venue. Trigger's apparent lack of boundaries and understanding of what I'd consider OK concerned me enough that I thought the same method might be warranted if it would produce similar results.
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Obviously it was an inappropriate form of communication and digging up an old subject long resolved. As I read pages and pages of walls of text with what I considered pretty vicious attacks on you, I felt so guilty I wanted to apologize for my part in it, because I believe I contributed to a part of it. I was going to send you a PM, then thought I should make a more personal gesture I was going to e-mail you, but I don't have your e-mail anymore. It popped in my head, "Hey, didn't we exchange texts back in March?" So I checked and finally found them on my iPhone and apologized. I didn't realize the time. I ain't exactly in the greatest emotional state right now.
I meant no harm, but obviously I fucked up. All I can do is apologize profusely. I just felt so horrible that night.
I am not addressing this anymore. When I came here I pointed out how stupid I thought the call out stuff was. There is nothing more for me to say other than apologizing.
So, you can't tell me you won't do this again, then?
Please, lose my number. I regret not anticipating how screwy your boundaries were likely to go on a long enough timeline. I don't know how much screwier they'll get and I don't want to find out. That kind of worry is scary. Whether or not you meant to freak me out, you did.
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I'd have addressed the text privately if that had been the only issue. As it is, he decided to do what he did for all the bloody board to see, and I view the text now in part of a bigger context. I could get more into it, or not.
I missed the part where he went public with this.
If he disclosed private information on a public board, then you have a legitimate gripe.
Otherwise, you may be over-reacting a little.
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Elle: this should teach you one thing - don't give out your mobile number unless you expect it to be used. You did, so therefore you have to wear the consequences.
Maybe you should have turned the thing off and let it go to message-bank as well.
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Good point!! :plus:
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Well, the number has been deleted. Hell, it ain't like I saved it in my contacts. Just shows up in SMS on my iPhone with no name associated with it. Had to figure out which was Elle's when I did send the infamous text.
Oh, and I don't think she gave me her number. I beleive I gave her mine and she texted me as we coordinated a time and place. By default I got the number, but she can be rest assured it was and never will be otherwise abused. No matter how much Scrap has offered for it!!!
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Well, the number has been deleted. Hell, it ain't like I saved it in my contacts. Just shows up in SMS on my iPhone with no name associated with it. Had to figure out which was Elle's when I did send the infamous text.
Oh, and I don't think she gave me her number. I beleive I gave her mine and she texted me as we coordinated a time and place. By default I got the number, but she can be rest assured it was and never will be otherwise abused. No matter how much Scrap has offered for it!!!
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Good to hear! :thumbup:
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Well, the number has been deleted. Hell, it ain't like I saved it in my contacts. Just shows up in SMS on my iPhone with no name associated with it. Had to figure out which was Elle's when I did send the infamous text.
Oh, and I don't think she gave me her number. I beleive I gave her mine and she texted me as we coordinated a time and place. By default I got the number, but she can be rest assured it was and never will be otherwise abused. No matter how much Scrap has offered for it!!!
Ouch. You just told the whole world that she's the one who texted you first. Prepare for femdom damnation.
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Well, the number has been deleted. Hell, it ain't like I saved it in my contacts. Just shows up in SMS on my iPhone with no name associated with it. Had to figure out which was Elle's when I did send the infamous text.
Oh, and I don't think she gave me her number. I beleive I gave her mine and she texted me as we coordinated a time and place. By default I got the number, but she can be rest assured it was and never will be otherwise abused. No matter how much Scrap has offered for it!!!
Ouch. You just told the whole world that she's the one who texted you first. Prepare for femdom damnation.
Brutal femdomness. :cfm:
http://xhamster.com/movies/671287/brutal_strapon_femdom_bitches.html (http://xhamster.com/movies/671287/brutal_strapon_femdom_bitches.html)
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Well, the number has been deleted. Hell, it ain't like I saved it in my contacts. Just shows up in SMS on my iPhone with no name associated with it. Had to figure out which was Elle's when I did send the infamous text.
Oh, and I don't think she gave me her number. I beleive I gave her mine and she texted me as we coordinated a time and place. By default I got the number, but she can be rest assured it was and never will be otherwise abused. No matter how much Scrap has offered for it!!!
Ouch. You just told the whole world that she's the one who texted you first. Prepare for femdom damnation.
Brutal femdomness. :cfm:
http://xhamster.com/movies/671287/brutal_strapon_femdom_bitches.html (http://xhamster.com/movies/671287/brutal_strapon_femdom_bitches.html)
I'm afraid of that bad link, I'm not going to click on it! :hide:
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Don't worry, it's safe.
Trust me on this.
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Don't worry, it's safe.
Trust me on this.
Watching the video or consorting with stern women?
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Don't worry, it's safe.
Trust me on this.
I dunno, they say there are lots of dirty pictures on the internet. :tinfoil:
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Don't worry, it's safe.
Trust me on this.
I dunno, they say there are lots of dirty pictures on the internet. :tinfoil:
I would never post anything that you might deem offensive CBC. :angel: :police:
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Don't worry, it's safe.
Trust me on this.
Watching the video or consorting with stern women?
Both :autism:
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Well, the number has been deleted. Hell, it ain't like I saved it in my contacts. Just shows up in SMS on my iPhone with no name associated with it. Had to figure out which was Elle's when I did send the infamous text.
Oh, and I don't think she gave me her number. I beleive I gave her mine and she texted me as we coordinated a time and place. By default I got the number, but she can be rest assured it was and never will be otherwise abused. No matter how much Scrap has offered for it!!!
Ouch. You just told the whole world that she's the one who texted you first. Prepare for femdom damnation.
No, no, no, no!!! That is why I don't want to talk about this. STOP FUELING THE FLAMES!!! Completely wrong context. Ha ha...(con)text!!!
Anyway, her texting me was all in the context of arranging actually meeting. I am the only one sexting creepy unrequited messages. Oops, I mean sending a harmless text apologizing for contributing to her being attacked on here.
ALL OTHER TEXTS, AND IT WAS ONLY A COUPLE OF HANDFULS TOTAL BETWEEN US, WERE ALL IN THAT CONTEXT. This corner, next to that place, yadda yadda!
HER TEXTING ME FIRST WAS ABOUT HAVING CONTROL AND NOT ALLOWING A CREEPY GUY TO INITIATE. Unless she thinks otherwise. I made it a point to let her call ALL the shots, so she'd be comfortable.
I also made it a point not to tell anyone on here and only alluded I had met a charming young lady afterwards. I never said I met Elle until she had mentioned it and I never gave specifics when interrogated on here until I saw the stuff already in that thread.
Let's put it this way...as a self-loathing completely lacking in confidence young man, I wouldn't want any girl to be associated with me in any context, especially on here. I thought I did a good job keeping that private even though it was nothing that needed to be secret, like we were hooking up or something. You guys have dirty minds and, let's face it, would draw that conclusion.
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Well, the number has been deleted. Hell, it ain't like I saved it in my contacts. Just shows up in SMS on my iPhone with no name associated with it. Had to figure out which was Elle's when I did send the infamous text.
Oh, and I don't think she gave me her number. I beleive I gave her mine and she texted me as we coordinated a time and place. By default I got the number, but she can be rest assured it was and never will be otherwise abused. No matter how much Scrap has offered for it!!!
Ouch. You just told the whole world that she's the one who texted you first. Prepare for femdom damnation.
No, no, no, no!!! That is why I don't want to talk about this. STOP FUELING THE FLAMES!!! Completely wrong context. Ha ha...(con)text!!!
Anyway, her texting me was all in the context of arranging actually meeting. I am the only one sexting creepy unrequited messages. Oops, I mean sending a harmless text apologizing for contributing to her being attacked on here.
ALL OTHER TEXTS, AND IT WAS ONLY A COUPLE OF HANDFULS TOTAL BETWEEN US, WERE ALL IN THAT CONTEXT. This corner, next to that place, yadda yadda!
HER TEXTING ME FIRST WAS ABOUT HAVING CONTROL AND NOT ALLOWING A CREEPY GUY TO INITIATE. Unless she thinks otherwise. I made it a point to let her call ALL the shots, so she'd be comfortable.
I also made it a point not to tell anyone on here and only alluded I had met a charming young lady afterwards. I never said I met Elle until she had mentioned it and I never gave specifics when interrogated on here until I saw the stuff already in that thread.
Let's put it this way...as a self-loathing completely lacking in confidence young man, I wouldn't want any girl to be associated with me in any context, especially on here. I thought I did a good job keeping that private even though it was nothing that needed to be secret, like we were hooking up or something. You guys have dirty minds and, let's face it, would draw that conclusion.
I never drew or would have drawn that conclusion, knowing both of you.
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Yes, but you are more an exception in this place!
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Yes and Trigger had to lose Elle's number for her to feel safe from imagined fears of Trigger. If he did not she would malign his character and infer him to be a stalker, to his peers.....no wait she did that anyhow?
Elle.
You have a right to be safe. You have a right to asking trigger to lose the number.
Does trigger not have a right for you to treat him a bit more respectfully and not insinuate him a stalker over ...well fuck all?
If yes, rather than you making demands of what he has to do and so, don't you think now is the time to apologise for what you have said to him in respect to the creepy stalker angle you were insinuating?
If he in fact chooses to actually be a scary stalker then hell get him arrested and mallign him all you want. At the moment I see one phone call. That was not worth the insinuation you were giving and I think you owe him an apology.
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I have not read anything Elle has written. Why? Because I don't want to feel hurt or upset and then try to defend myself and cause further damage. That means on my own I deleted the number, being unaware that was a demand. I RULE!!! :headbang2:
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Oh, that and I have conflict avoidance issues! Dammit, reading Les' post makes me want to and then respond to specific apparent accusations. Must resist... :facepalm2:
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Yeah, but I could just lie and keep the number anyway. Dammit all to hell I am just such a creepy internet douchebag praying on young women. Couldn't possibly be I am interested in meeting people with similar issues having only recently discovered I actually had Asperger's and all the associated ADD, OCD, and SAD tendancies. Nope, couldn't have anything to do with my fascination of my condition and trying to relate and thus better understand. Nope, for I have a penis and will do whatever it takes to get me some! :headbang2:
Honestly, the original meeting was supposed to be a group thing anyway...mostly guys. I had started a thread and everything. Look it up!!!
And this March, I did not initiate contact about meeting again. She knew I was in town at the same time every year and sent me a PM (not a text) to see if I was coming again. Boy, I sure am creepy for responding and saying that I was. ::)
And I am not pissed, but c'mon!!! I am not a stalker. Thought I was a friend and understood. I knew the background and recall the stalking was part of the face-to-face Dunkin Donuts discussion.
The funniest part was as we walked out, I held the door for her but she turned around and went back in so I apologized in an e-mail about the awkwardness. Then again, maybe I should've just slammed the door shut in her face. But I hold doors for anybody within 5 feet that won't require me to lose my momentum.
Also, I don't use texting, so I don't understand the etiquette at all.
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Yes and Trigger had to lose Elle's number for her to feel safe from imagined fears of Trigger. If he did not she would malign his character and infer him to be a stalker, to his peers.....no wait she did that anyhow?
Elle.
You have a right to be safe. You have a right to asking trigger to lose the number.
Does trigger not have a right for you to treat him a bit more respectfully and not insinuate him a stalker over ...well fuck all?
If yes, rather than you making demands of what he has to do and so, don't you think now is the time to apologise for what you have said to him in respect to the creepy stalker angle you were insinuating?
If he in fact chooses to actually be a scary stalker then hell get him arrested and mallign him all you want. At the moment I see one phone call. That was not worth the insinuation you were giving and I think you owe him an apology.
Hear hear. Trigger seems to be terrified and bending over backwards to take care of people's feelings. So-called stalkers wouldn't even need to stalk if there weren't this specter of irrevocable harm to... what, emotion? ...resulting from honest direct communication.
So there are creepy people in the world who follow their victims like asocial predators, with the goal of raping or killing them. But there are also a lot of decent guys and decent women who manage to scare the shit out of each other for no concrete reason. In that situation, there aren't any villains.
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I'm scared?!?! :dunno:
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I have conflict avoidance issues!
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I have conflict avoidance issues!
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I am gonna call you out! Didn't we not get along at one point? Dammit, I am calling out this whole place!!!
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Okay, to me, "I'm scared" and "I have conflict avoidance issues" mean basically the same thing. You disagree?
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Okay, to me, "I'm scared" and "I have conflict avoidance issues" mean basically the same thing. You disagree?
Oh, I got that! But a different kind of scared I suppose. Scared more about how perceptions might be of other people mostly, but I'd be lying if it wasn't of me as well. I am in a bit of a defensive mode. Don't care about much, but stalking, violence, rape, etc. are VERY strong words.
I am not scared of my own well-being.
Also, I am coming up on my 3-year anniversary here that happens to coincide with my birthday, and would hope somebody on here would get me enough to know I like to make fun of stuff and tease and just be silly.
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Okay, if you got it already, are you still calling me out? :tard:
It just annoys me when I see guys get so worried about hurting women's feelings that they go past the point of being gentle in a way that might actually help, into something that... I don't even know what the hell to call that kind of scared-rabbit defensiveness. I'm not Eris. It's not a turn-on. :P
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Okay, if you got it already, are you still calling me out? :tard:
It just annoys me when I see guys get so worried about hurting women's feelings that they go past the point of being gentle in a way that might actually help, into something that... I don't even know what the hell to call that kind of scared-rabbit defensiveness. I'm not Eris. It's not a turn-on. :P
NO! I was just teasing! Yeah, maybe I'd be better off just being personally defensive and nasty and serious. Like I said, I feel like I am in a Catch-22/No-Win situation. I genuinely don't want to hurt Elle's feelings or make her even more uncomfortable, but I prefer to be an open book and upfront and honest unless I need to really protect someone.
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LOL, I didn't figure you were serious about the callout, that's why I used the tard emoticon.
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Good thing you responded!!! I was about to call you out for calling me a retard!!! :grrr:
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For what it's worth Trigger - you seem to be between a rock and a hard place, and you
really couldn't have played your hand any better. Your reaction to her callout was probably
wrong but then any reaction would or could be deemed wrong. You couldn't win.
Creepy...wtf is creepy about a text message late at night. Hell if a guy had text me just once in so many months i would be thinking 'he isn't into me very much'. The thing is it is so very easy
to put a man in that frame. I don't suppose it was intentional, i have read quite a few of Elle's
posts and always thought of her as very intelligent, but it is obviously going to put a slur over
your character. It could also really affect your confidence when it comes to future friendships.
That is just unfair. I sincerely hope you brush it aside and not let it affect your future interactions
with the opposite sex. I hate to think there might be some girl in your future sat staring at her
phone waiting for a text that never arrives just because you got bitten this time. That would be
a shame and you should be aware that most women would not react that way.
I believe Elle has reason to behave so extreme - she was stalked before. Know that feeling, not
good at all. It can really affect you. However it is quite wrong to make you a scapegoat. All this is none of my business, and it is likely there is much more to this story than we know. None of my
business, and i usually keep my rather big hooter out of other folks shit - but it would be quite
wrong of me to say nothing when i see someone made into a scapegoat.
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¡Gracías Señorita!
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I have conflict avoidance issues!
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I am gonna call you out! Didn't we not get along at one point. Dammit, I am calling out this whole place!!!
That's ^^^ a bit more like it Trigger. :thumbup: Except the aspersions on your character did not come from the whole place, did they? I do believe that you fucked up good by jumping in to reactivate old dead shit between Eclair and Elle to be Elle's white knight. In that sense you got this shit started. So eat crow and do the mea culpa about stirring up way old shit/rushing in to be a white knight. Then tell Elle "Fuck off bitch! I'm not a stalker." and call it a day.
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I have conflict avoidance issues!
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I am gonna call you out! Didn't we not get along at one point. Dammit, I am calling out this whole place!!!
That's ^^^ a bit more like it Trigger. :thumbup: Except the aspersions on your character did not come from the whole place, did they? I do believe that you fucked up good by jumping in to reactivate old dead shit between Eclair and Elle to be Elle's white knight. In that sense you got this shit started. So eat crow and do the mea culpa about stirring up way old shit/rushing in to be a white knight. Then tell Elle "Fuck off bitch! I'm not a stalker." and call it a day.
Didn't I repeatedly do that, accepting all the blame? If not, then that was my intent with my response.
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Right, a good reason to NOT meet you or Elle. You'll try to rim me and she'll think I want to rape her if I texted her.
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Didn't I repeatedly do that, accepting all the blame? If not, then that was my intent with my response.
Except you don't deserve ALL the blame IMO. You deserve the blame for necro bumping dormant shit that Elle and Eclair had sort of settled and left at an impasse. You kicked a sleeping dog and it appeared to me that you did it with the intent of defending Elle. Your blame stops with that unless you actually are being a creepy stalker. I tend to doubt that you are. Hence the "Fuck off Elle, I'm not a stalker" that I noted you failed to put in your response. You are responsible for your actions, not for Elle's predisposition to assume bad intentions.
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I got this nonsense text at like 3 am from my friend Steve. Actually I think he sent it to the wrong person. Should I be afraid that he is going to stalk me and rape me ???
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I got this nonsense text at like 3 am from my friend Steve. Actually I think he sent it to the wrong person. Should I be afraid that he is going to stalk me and rape me ???
Does he have a penis?
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I think he does.
Oh shit, im in trouble arent I.
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He's gonna go RAPE APE on you!
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:indeed:
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Damn, well I guess I better go make a callout. Oh, wait. He isnt a member here.
I guess I can do the IRL equivalent. I will tell all of our mutual friends that he is dangerous and creepy and that I am afraid for my life.
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Then you can complain about your mother and spout conspiracy theories with your tinfoil hat + microwave combo.
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For what it's worth Trigger - you seem to be between a rock and a hard place, and you
really couldn't have played your hand any better. Your reaction to her callout was probably
wrong but then any reaction would or could be deemed wrong. You couldn't win.
Creepy...wtf is creepy about a text message late at night. Hell if a guy had text me just once in so many months i would be thinking 'he isn't into me very much'. The thing is it is so very easy
to put a man in that frame. I don't suppose it was intentional, i have read quite a few of Elle's
posts and always thought of her as very intelligent, but it is obviously going to put a slur over
your character. It could also really affect your confidence when it comes to future friendships.
That is just unfair. I sincerely hope you brush it aside and not let it affect your future interactions
with the opposite sex. I hate to think there might be some girl in your future sat staring at her
phone waiting for a text that never arrives just because you got bitten this time. That would be
a shame and you should be aware that most women would not react that way.
I believe Elle has reason to behave so extreme - she was stalked before. Know that feeling, not
good at all. It can really affect you. However it is quite wrong to make you a scapegoat. All this is none of my business, and it is likely there is much more to this story than we know. None of my
business, and i usually keep my rather big hooter out of other folks shit - but it would be quite
wrong of me to say nothing when i see someone made into a scapegoat.
Agreed.
As a male emt, one of the things that I am very well aware of is being a male emt. I always work with somebody else and try to avoid situations where I might be alone with a client. Avoiding accusations is one of the things we are taught. Granted the client is the focus of our work, but, we also have to keep ourselves safe. It can be a very fine line with how one responds to an emergency and the clients physical AND mental well being. I hope that makes sense! :-\
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Yep, makes perfect sense.
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See, you guys are evil!!! >:D
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See, you guye evil!!! >:D
<shrug> Now that you know what you know. Just avoid her and let it go.
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Right, a good reason to NOT meet you or Elle. You'll try to rim me and she'll think I want to rape her if I texted her.
How did you come to that conclusion? ???
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See, you guys are evil!!! >:D
<shrug> Now that you know what you know. Just avoid her and let it go.
What would be the fun in that?
Okay, just kidding! I am just addressing everyone else's comments.
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And one final point! The last time I told somebody to fuck off it didn't go so well, so methinks that is an inappropriate response.
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I told someone to go fuck off yesterday, and he hasnt stopped fucking texting me all day. I need a new line. Got one ? Maybe I should ask him to marry me. Then he might disappear.
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Trigger, fuck off. :zoinks:
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I told someone to go fuck off yesterday, and he hasnt stopped fucking texting me all day. I need a new line. Got one ? Maybe I should ask him to marry me. Then he might disappear.
yeah 'fuck off' is way too tame for some situations. Try
"I hope you meet a slow and painful end writhing in your own excrement and then i sincerely
want to think that you will spend the rest of eternity sucking the cocks of lepers in hell"
of course, this may be right up their street! :zoinks:
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Trigger, fuck off. :zoinks:
:eyelash:
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Didn't I repeatedly do that, accepting all the blame? If not, then that was my intent with my response.
Except you don't deserve ALL the blame IMO. You deserve the blame for necro bumping dormant shit that Elle and Eclair had sort of settled and left at an impasse. You kicked a sleeping dog and it appeared to me that you did it with the intent of defending Elle. Your blame stops with that unless you actually are being a creepy stalker. I tend to doubt that you are. Hence the "Fuck off Elle, I'm not a stalker" that I noted you failed to put in your response. You are responsible for your actions, not for Elle's predisposition to assume bad intentions.
Didn't read it that way at all. He had his say in the Elle/Eclair situation, late but not undeserved. The sleeping dog he kicked was SirLes and defended her from him, which neither Les nor Elle saw as needed.
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And one final point! The last time I told somebody to fuck off it didn't go so well, so methinks that is an inappropriate response.
You need to learn, young one, that a strategic "FUCK OFF" is a good thing and not inappropriate. So long as you leave it at that. Thats what my ex-psycho-girlfriend has learned. :2thumbsup:
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I told someone to go fuck off yesterday, and he hasnt stopped fucking texting me all day. I need a new line. Got one ? Maybe I should ask him to marry me. Then he might disappear.
:plus:
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I told someone to go fuck off yesterday, and he hasnt stopped fucking texting me all day. I need a new line. Got one ? Maybe I should ask him to marry me. Then he might disappear.
yeah 'fuck off' is way too tame for some situations. Try
"I hope you meet a slow and painful end writhing in your own excrement and then i sincerely
want to think that you will spend the rest of eternity sucking the cocks of lepers in hell"
of course, this may be right up their street! :zoinks:
:plus:
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And one final point! The last time I told somebody to fuck off it didn't go so well, so methinks that is an inappropriate response.
You need to learn, young one, that a strategic "FUCK OFF" is a good thing and not inappropriate. So long as you leave it at that. Thats what my ex-psycho-girlfriend has learned. :2thumbsup:
how did your girlfriend become an "ex-psycho"? That would be a neat trick.
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And one final point! The last time I told somebody to fuck off it didn't go so well, so methinks that is an inappropriate response.
You need to learn, young one, that a strategic "FUCK OFF" is a good thing and not inappropriate. So long as you leave it at that. Thats what my ex-psycho-girlfriend has learned. :2thumbsup:
how did your girlfriend become an "ex-psycho"? That would be a neat trick.
:o Ok, psycho-EX-girlfriend.... :facepalm2:
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FUCK ALL Y'ALL!
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Well, the number has been deleted. Hell, it ain't like I saved it in my contacts. Just shows up in SMS on my iPhone with no name associated with it. Had to figure out which was Elle's when I did send the infamous text.
Oh, and I don't think she gave me her number. I beleive I gave her mine and she texted me as we coordinated a time and place. By default I got the number, but she can be rest assured it was and never will be otherwise abused. No matter how much Scrap has offered for it!!!
Ouch. You just told the whole world that she's the one who texted you first. Prepare for femdom damnation.
No, no, no, no!!! That is why I don't want to talk about this. STOP FUELING THE FLAMES!!! Completely wrong context. Ha ha...(con)text!!!
Anyway, her texting me was all in the context of arranging actually meeting. I am the only one sexting creepy unrequited messages. Oops, I mean sending a harmless text apologizing for contributing to her being attacked on here.
ALL OTHER TEXTS, AND IT WAS ONLY A COUPLE OF HANDFULS TOTAL BETWEEN US, WERE ALL IN THAT CONTEXT. This corner, next to that place, yadda yadda!
HER TEXTING ME FIRST WAS ABOUT HAVING CONTROL AND NOT ALLOWING A CREEPY GUY TO INITIATE. Unless she thinks otherwise. I made it a point to let her call ALL the shots, so she'd be comfortable.
I also made it a point not to tell anyone on here and only alluded I had met a charming young lady afterwards. I never said I met Elle until she had mentioned it and I never gave specifics when interrogated on here until I saw the stuff already in that thread.
Let's put it this way...as a self-loathing completely lacking in confidence young man, I wouldn't want any girl to be associated with me in any context, especially on here. I thought I did a good job keeping that private even though it was nothing that needed to be secret, like we were hooking up or something. You guys have dirty minds and, let's face it, would draw that conclusion.
Look, man, we all know we all want to fuck Elle, so it's not just you. Sarcasm to the top.
Either way, fuck Elle (interpret that the way you want), fuck drama, and fuck these silly baby games that you enjoy playing, and focus on your kids. How are you protecting them from the abuse of their mother by being submissive to women?
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FUCK ALL Y'ALL!
no thanks :green: I like women :)
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Now, I can't be bothered trawling through old shit, but I do have this important question - was Elle stalked online, or was it IRL?
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I don't want to fuck Elle! Maybe that is the problem.
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As PPK's sig says, "Harden the fuck up". My impression of trigger is that he needs to grow up and elle needs to move on. Life sucks, we make mistakes and we get crapped on. Is there any kind of happy medium or am I being delusional???
Elle expects every sexual partner to submit to an STD test.....or has that changed? Trigger misread an intention and went beyond it. I did the same and that was a learning experience. :facepalm2:
My girlfriend doesn't play games and is one to give me a "dope slap" when I go off. I like that, if I screw up she tells me or if she goes bonkers she accepts me telling her that she needs to back off.
No texting, no mind games, no crap.
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I don't get the connection to my interaction with Elle and my minions. Because I am on here?
I was also not submissive, only letting Elle call the shots because I knew of her past.
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I don't get the connection to my interaction with Elle and my minions. Because I am on here?
I was also not submissive, only letting Elle call the shots because I knew of her past.
I don't know all the details and I can't be asked to dig up all the facts. So I'm just telling it as I see it. I figure she doesn't give a shit what I think and most people here don't either. :green:
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@Psychophant - That may be applicable if Elle and I were 'together' but not so much as it is. I would agree too! I have been getting the passive-aggressive, never-say-what-you-really-mean shit for years.
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I don't get the connection to my interaction with Elle and my minions. Because I am on here?
I was also not submissive, only letting Elle call the shots because I knew of her past.
Am guessing Mcalavera's connection is based in general avoidance of confrontation, which you admit. Tend to think shots at personal life of others is a harsh thing, but it comes with the territory of laying it out there for speculation. He runs a forum which might be worth your interest.
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Didn't I repeatedly do that, accepting all the blame? If not, then that was my intent with my response.
Except you don't deserve ALL the blame IMO. You deserve the blame for necro bumping dormant shit that Elle and Eclair had sort of settled and left at an impasse. You kicked a sleeping dog and it appeared to me that you did it with the intent of defending Elle. Your blame stops with that unless you actually are being a creepy stalker. I tend to doubt that you are. Hence the "Fuck off Elle, I'm not a stalker" that I noted you failed to put in your response. You are responsible for your actions, not for Elle's predisposition to assume bad intentions.
Didn't read it that way at all. He had his say in the Elle/Eclair situation, late but not undeserved. The sleeping dog he kicked was SirLes and defended her from him, which neither Les nor Elle saw as needed.
Your wrong fuck off! :finger:
Just kidding Jack. :hug: <grope> :zoinks:
FUCK ALL Y'ALL!
:clap: :LOL:
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:laugh:
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The worst part is now I am not gonna get eris' number so I can text her when she needs some 'support' or 'encouragement.' :'(
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I don't get the connection to my interaction with Elle and my minions. Because I am on here?
I was also not submissive, only letting Elle call the shots because I knew of her past.
Am guessing Mcalavera's connection is based in general avoidance of confrontation, which you admit. Tend to think shots at personal life of others is a harsh thing, but it comes with the territory of laying it out there for speculation. He runs a forum which might be worth your interest.
The only active member there so far that I know can give him proper advice is Sir_Les, though. And Sir_Les is here anyway.
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@Psychophant - That may be applicable if Elle and I were 'together' but not so much as it is. I would agree too! I have been getting the passive-aggressive, never-say-what-you-really-mean shit for years.
Sucks doesn't it??
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@Psychophant - That may be applicable if Elle and I were 'together' but not so much as it is. I would agree too! I have been getting the passive-aggressive, never-say-what-you-really-mean shit for years.
Sucks doesn't it??
Have I never posted that in here? :lol:
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@Psychophant - That may be applicable if Elle and I were 'together' but not so much as it is. I would agree too! I have been getting the passive-aggressive, never-say-what-you-really-mean shit for years.
Sucks doesn't it??
Have I never posted that in here? :lol:
Maybe....but, I'm a little slow in the uptake and I like to keep things close! :P
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By default I got the number, but she can be rest assured it was and never will be otherwise abused. No matter how much Scrap has offered for it!!!
What?? $20 isn't enough to pay you off?? FINE I'll make it $25. You drive a hard bargian dude. >:(
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By default I got the number, but she can be rest assured it was and never will be otherwise abused. No matter how much Scrap has offered for it!!!
What?? $20 isn't enough to pay you off?? FINE I'll make it $25. You drive a hard bargian dude. >:(
Too late to offer the extra $5 now, he already deleted her number.
:smarty:
I brought up the stalker thing because I can understand why having had a stalker in the past can make someone hypervigilant to things that aren't real threats, like a late night text message, for example. If Trigger sent dozens of messages and refused to stop when he was requested to then that might be considered stalking, but that isn't the case here.
I don't text, so I don't understand all the rules of etiquette concerning text messages, but I think that a late night text wouldn't be the same thing as a late night telephone call, since it could be answered at the receiver's leisure, if at all.
It seems to me that Trigger is bending over backwards to avoid making PMS Elle feel stalked, since he deleted her number at her request.
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Why exactly did you decide to TEXT me at 11:21pm the night before last, instead of sending me a message on here? If I had forgotten to put my cell on silent before going to sleep, I would have been completely fucking ripshit. As it is, I think that was rude, weird, and not OK.
Also, what the FUCK is up with randomly digging upnold shit and 'defending my honor,' or whatever the fuck you think you're doing? You know how much I value privacy and you're giving details about locations? You're not helping, you're acting weird and a little obsessive and it's reaching a point of creeepiness, you're making me uncomfortable, and I want you to lay the fuck off, and lose my number.
It's not creepy, and no one gave away your location.
If you wanted this private, why did you post it on a public message board ?
Because he already took it public, and I think that publically calling him out on his publically uncool behavior might be more likely to prevent it, at this point.
I'd have addressed the text privately if that had been the only issue. As it is, he decided to do what he did for all the bloody board to see, and I view the text now in part of a bigger context. I could get more into it, or not.
Callaway's guess in the peanut gallery is also correct; I've had someone stalk me in the past, including on this baord. Publically calling him out on doing so on this message board seemed to smack him down sufficiently to knock it off, at least on this venue. Trigger's apparent lack of boundaries and understanding of what I'd consider OK concerned me enough that I thought the same method might be warranted if it would produce similar results.
Bolded for emphasis.
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Nobody answered my question: was Elle stalked online or IRL?
The reason I ask this is because if it were online, the threat is hardly one to be taken as seriously as a stalker hanging around your garden gate. If anyone did do this, it would more than likely be because of information given out by Elle herself that would attract someone who might decide to prey on her. Still, not as worrying as an IRL situation. An IRL stalker could have the police called on them, and they they would be dealt with and that would be the end. To deal with a virtual staler, all you have to do is set your email to junk anything you don't want (like spam) and block people you don't know on MSN etc. Texting someone you hardly know gives out your number to them for free use, as they then have control over what you have given them.
So in other words, a RL situation where you know for a fact someone is there stalking you would be taken more seriously than a virtual sitiuation where you should have complete control. Give out information, and you do it at your own risk.
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Nobody answered my question: was Elle stalked online or IRL?
The reason I ask this is because if it were online, the threat is hardly one to be taken as seriously as a stalker hanging around your garden gate. If anyone did do this, it would more than likely be because of information given out by Elle herself that would attract someone who might decide to prey on her. Still, not as worrying as an IRL situation. An IRL stalker could have the police called on them, and they they would be dealt with and that would be the end. To deal with a virtual staler, all you have to do is set your email to junk anything you don't want (like spam) and block people you don't know on MSN etc. Texting someone you hardly know gives out your number to them for free use, as they then have control over what you have given them.
So in other words, a RL situation where you know for a fact someone is there stalking you would be taken more seriously than a virtual sitiuation where you should have complete control. Give out information, and you do it at your own risk.
IRL, but I think nobody wants to force her to relive a situation that was frightening and very upsetting to her.
I think that you must have never been stalked if you think that the solution is so simple.
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Nobody answered my question: was Elle stalked online or IRL?
The reason I ask this is because if it were online, the threat is hardly one to be taken as seriously as a stalker hanging around your garden gate. If anyone did do this, it would more than likely be because of information given out by Elle herself that would attract someone who might decide to prey on her. Still, not as worrying as an IRL situation. An IRL stalker could have the police called on them, and they they would be dealt with and that would be the end. To deal with a virtual staler, all you have to do is set your email to junk anything you don't want (like spam) and block people you don't know on MSN etc. Texting someone you hardly know gives out your number to them for free use, as they then have control over what you have given them.
So in other words, a RL situation where you know for a fact someone is there stalking you would be taken more seriously than a virtual sitiuation where you should have complete control. Give out information, and you do it at your own risk.
IRL, but I think nobody wants to force her to relive a situation that was frightening and very upsetting to her.
I think that you must have never been stalked if you think that the solution is so simple.
Good points Callaway. There are two really good reasons to get a restraining order.
1. It might work, and
2. In the event that it does not work, and one ends up having to put two or three 230 grain JHPs in their chest, it shows that a positive effort was made to de escalate the situation and provides for what is referred to as an affirmative defense in court, if the case gets that far. http://www.answers.com/topic/affirmative-defense (http://www.answers.com/topic/affirmative-defense)
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Nobody answered my question: was Elle stalked online or IRL?
The reason I ask this is because if it were online, the threat is hardly one to be taken as seriously as a stalker hanging around your garden gate. If anyone did do this, it would more than likely be because of information given out by Elle herself that would attract someone who might decide to prey on her. Still, not as worrying as an IRL situation. An IRL stalker could have the police called on them, and they they would be dealt with and that would be the end. To deal with a virtual staler, all you have to do is set your email to junk anything you don't want (like spam) and block people you don't know on MSN etc. Texting someone you hardly know gives out your number to them for free use, as they then have control over what you have given them.
So in other words, a RL situation where you know for a fact someone is there stalking you would be taken more seriously than a virtual sitiuation where you should have complete control. Give out information, and you do it at your own risk.
IRL, but I think nobody wants to force her to relive a situation that was frightening and very upsetting to her.
I think that you must have never been stalked if you think that the solution is so simple.
No, never. What I do beleive is that an online situation is more easily handled, and what I would call trivial compared to an IRL one. If Elle was stalked IRL, then yes, it would have been frightening. In the virtual world, all anyone has to do is turn the computer off, block their calls and block their emails. Get's harder when the person is someone they may actually see following them, or someone they have contacted.
This world can be scary sometimes, but there are steps to avoid confrontations and problems.
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Nobody answered my question: was Elle stalked online or IRL?
The reason I ask this is because if it were online, the threat is hardly one to be taken as seriously as a stalker hanging around your garden gate. If anyone did do this, it would more than likely be because of information given out by Elle herself that would attract someone who might decide to prey on her. Still, not as worrying as an IRL situation. An IRL stalker could have the police called on them, and they they would be dealt with and that would be the end. To deal with a virtual staler, all you have to do is set your email to junk anything you don't want (like spam) and block people you don't know on MSN etc. Texting someone you hardly know gives out your number to them for free use, as they then have control over what you have given them.
So in other words, a RL situation where you know for a fact someone is there stalking you would be taken more seriously than a virtual sitiuation where you should have complete control. Give out information, and you do it at your own risk.
IRL, but I think nobody wants to force her to relive a situation that was frightening and very upsetting to her.
I think that you must have never been stalked if you think that the solution is so simple.
No, never. What I do beleive is that an online situation is more easily handled, and what I would call trivial compared to an IRL one. If Elle was stalked IRL, then yes, it would have been frightening. In the virtual world, all anyone has to do is turn the computer off, block their calls and block their emails. Get's harder when the person is someone they may actually see following them, or someone they have contacted.
This world can be scary sometimes, but there are steps to avoid confrontations and problems.
Requires changing a lot of patterns.
And virtual stalkers can become IRL stalkers, IRL stalkers will not stay away from the internet either.
When you have been stalked, you can be on edge for a long time afterwards.
One, completely innocent text at the wrong time may bring it all back.
Not the fault of the texter though. Trigger didn't cross the lines I think.
It's just how things are. Getting rid of the mental effects of stalking takes a lot of time. And that sucks.
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Every Monday I get back on the board and have to read a pages and pages and pages of weekend drama. If you all wanted to be awesome you could get together and do me a huge favor, and try your best to keep the weekend drama from being so damn boring ;)
I think I have read 10 pages now of Trigger and Elle drama, and it's all about as interesting as the lint in my navel.
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I Blame the bourbon fairies for the Star Wars allusions :-\
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I Blame the bourbon fairies for the Star Wars allusions :-\
The bourbon fairies are usually good for a few laughs. To be honest, I skimmed past all the Star Wars stuff. Can I assume that it eventually evolved into someone wanting to fuck a character, probably Squiddy?
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I can't remember. I think it was killing Squiddy rather than fucking him but same kind of thing I guess.
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I Blame the bourbon fairies for the Star Wars allusions :-\
The bourbon fairies are usually good for a few laughs. To be honest, I skimmed past all the Star Wars stuff. Can I assume that it eventually evolved into someone wanting to fuck a character, probably Squiddy?
Damn you know me well. :lol:
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Mockingly, of course!
Radiohead - Creep (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzjUjNPYzLg#ws)
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I Blame the bourbon fairies for the Star Wars allusions :-\
The bourbon fairies are usually good for a few laughs. To be honest, I skimmed past all the Star Wars stuff. Can I assume that it eventually evolved into someone wanting to fuck a character, probably Squiddy?
Damn you know me well. :lol:
I thought you only swung the other way? so you swing both ways? or was this someone wanting to fuck you? shit I'm cunfoosed now. Damn Rum fairies. :fiveshots:
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Nobody answered my question: was Elle stalked online or IRL?
The reason I ask this is because if it were online, the threat is hardly one to be taken as seriously as a stalker hanging around your garden gate. If anyone did do this, it would more than likely be because of information given out by Elle herself that would attract someone who might decide to prey on her. Still, not as worrying as an IRL situation. An IRL stalker could have the police called on them, and they they would be dealt with and that would be the end. To deal with a virtual staler, all you have to do is set your email to junk anything you don't want (like spam) and block people you don't know on MSN etc. Texting someone you hardly know gives out your number to them for free use, as they then have control over what you have given them.
So in other words, a RL situation where you know for a fact someone is there stalking you would be taken more seriously than a virtual sitiuation where you should have complete control. Give out information, and you do it at your own risk.
Both IRL and online. Same person using various methods of monitoring me. At the time, I didn't know how far he'd take it; he took it farther than I'd expected him to, and it was scary as fuck. I had mutual friends warning me about him, worried about me. It reached a point where I was starting to consider taking RL legal action to protect myself, but fortunately did not actually reach that point.
As PPK's sig says, "Harden the fuck up". My impression of trigger is that he needs to grow up and elle needs to move on. Life sucks, we make mistakes and we get crapped on. Is there any kind of happy medium or am I being delusional???
Elle expects every sexual partner to submit to an STD test.....or has that changed? Trigger misread an intention and went beyond it. I did the same and that was a learning experience. :facepalm2:
My girlfriend doesn't play games and is one to give me a "dope slap" when I go off. I like that, if I screw up she tells me or if she goes bonkers she accepts me telling her that she needs to back off.
No texting, no mind games, no crap.
Bolded part: 1. out of the blue in this context (why?) and 2. you make it sound like you think that's unreasonable.
Elle: this should teach you one thing - don't give out your mobile number unless you expect it to be used. You did, so therefore you have to wear the consequences.
Maybe you should have turned the thing off and let it go to message-bank as well.
*nod* I was stupid and probably should not have met Trigger to begin with, let alone texted him and thereby let him have my number. Mean well or not, he has periods of time where he gets weird about boundaries, and I should have anticipated that that was potentially a cyclic thing with him, and not just a one-shot deal once upon a time.
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Nobody answered my question: was Elle stalked online or IRL?
The reason I ask this is because if it were online, the threat is hardly one to be taken as seriously as a stalker hanging around your garden gate. If anyone did do this, it would more than likely be because of information given out by Elle herself that would attract someone who might decide to prey on her. Still, not as worrying as an IRL situation. An IRL stalker could have the police called on them, and they they would be dealt with and that would be the end. To deal with a virtual staler, all you have to do is set your email to junk anything you don't want (like spam) and block people you don't know on MSN etc. Texting someone you hardly know gives out your number to them for free use, as they then have control over what you have given them.
So in other words, a RL situation where you know for a fact someone is there stalking you would be taken more seriously than a virtual sitiuation where you should have complete control. Give out information, and you do it at your own risk.
Both IRL and online. Same person using various methods of monitoring me. At the time, I didn't know how far he'd take it; he took it farther than I'd expected him to, and it was scary as fuck. I had mutual friends warning me about him, worried about me. It reached a point where I was starting to consider taking RL legal action to protect myself, but fortunately did not actually reach that point.
As PPK's sig says, "Harden the fuck up". My impression of trigger is that he needs to grow up and elle needs to move on. Life sucks, we make mistakes and we get crapped on. Is there any kind of happy medium or am I being delusional???
Elle expects every sexual partner to submit to an STD test.....or has that changed? Trigger misread an intention and went beyond it. I did the same and that was a learning experience. :facepalm2:
My girlfriend doesn't play games and is one to give me a "dope slap" when I go off. I like that, if I screw up she tells me or if she goes bonkers she accepts me telling her that she needs to back off.
No texting, no mind games, no crap.
Bolded part: 1. out of the blue in this context (why?) and 2. you make it sound like you think that's unreasonable.
Elle: this should teach you one thing - don't give out your mobile number unless you expect it to be used. You did, so therefore you have to wear the consequences.
Maybe you should have turned the thing off and let it go to message-bank as well.
*nod* I was stupid and probably should not have met Trigger to begin with, let alone texted him and thereby let him have my number. Mean well or not, he has periods of time where he gets weird about boundaries, and I should have anticipated that that was potentially a cyclic thing with him, and not just a one-shot deal once upon a time.
Thanks for the explanation, it clears up some things.
Dunno about the not meeting Trigger part, tho'. Neither of you could have known what giveing out your number, even via text could have led to. I see him as a mate here, but I'm unlikely to ever meet him as the distances would be too great to cross. I'd also like to see you as a mate as well, and for the same reason, it would not be practical for us to meet. I now understand a litttle more about the situation, and it's a pity things hadn't worked out better.
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I don't see the whole he has a problem with personal boundaries stuff any more than I see you having a problem with foisting a lot of fairly accusatory aspects about someone's character based on what appears to be one unexpected phone call (an apology) by an acquaintance.
In fact to be honest I really am not seeing much deserving in some of the mud you are slinging trigger's way at all.
I agree it was pretty silly to come in and defend you from me over something we had sorted out a while ago and by which any reading would have disclosed that. As said. He not only let the cat out of the bag but shook shit out of it beforehand.
The inferences of you about him having issues with personal boundaries and disclosing information and basically acting like a creepy stalker....were they justified? Were you demands of him on this board a little unjustified?
Honestly, it really doesn't appear that way.
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I Blame the bourbon fairies for the Star Wars allusions :-\
The bourbon fairies are usually good for a few laughs. To be honest, I skimmed past all the Star Wars stuff. Can I assume that it eventually evolved into someone wanting to fuck a character, probably Squiddy?
Damn you know me well. :lol:
I thought you only swung the other way? so you swing both ways? or was this someone wanting to fuck you? shit I'm cunfoosed now. Damn Rum fairies. :fiveshots:
I only like the cock , Hubert's assumption I would want to fuck one of the characters was correct , I wanted to do Ewan Mcgregor's Obi Wan Kenobi. :P
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Nobody answered my question: was Elle stalked online or IRL?
The reason I ask this is because if it were online, the threat is hardly one to be taken as seriously as a stalker hanging around your garden gate. If anyone did do this, it would more than likely be because of information given out by Elle herself that would attract someone who might decide to prey on her. Still, not as worrying as an IRL situation. An IRL stalker could have the police called on them, and they they would be dealt with and that would be the end. To deal with a virtual staler, all you have to do is set your email to junk anything you don't want (like spam) and block people you don't know on MSN etc. Texting someone you hardly know gives out your number to them for free use, as they then have control over what you have given them.
So in other words, a RL situation where you know for a fact someone is there stalking you would be taken more seriously than a virtual sitiuation where you should have complete control. Give out information, and you do it at your own risk.
Both IRL and online. Same person using various methods of monitoring me. At the time, I didn't know how far he'd take it; he took it farther than I'd expected him to, and it was scary as fuck. I had mutual friends warning me about him, worried about me. It reached a point where I was starting to consider taking RL legal action to protect myself, but fortunately did not actually reach that point.
As PPK's sig says, "Harden the fuck up". My impression of trigger is that he needs to grow up and elle needs to move on. Life sucks, we make mistakes and we get crapped on. Is there any kind of happy medium or am I being delusional???
Elle expects every sexual partner to submit to an STD test.....or has that changed? Trigger misread an intention and went beyond it. I did the same and that was a learning experience. :facepalm2:
My girlfriend doesn't play games and is one to give me a "dope slap" when I go off. I like that, if I screw up she tells me or if she goes bonkers she accepts me telling her that she needs to back off.
No texting, no mind games, no crap.
Bolded part: 1. out of the blue in this context (why?) and 2. you make it sound like you think that's unreasonable.
Elle: this should teach you one thing - don't give out your mobile number unless you expect it to be used. You did, so therefore you have to wear the consequences.
Maybe you should have turned the thing off and let it go to message-bank as well.
*nod* I was stupid and probably should not have met Trigger to begin with, let alone texted him and thereby let him have my number. Mean well or not, he has periods of time where he gets weird about boundaries, and I should have anticipated that that was potentially a cyclic thing with him, and not just a one-shot deal once upon a time.
I was prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt. But, after a lot of reading and thinking, it seems like you have the greater issues then trigger. Whatever you have been through, you need to get through it and be the counselor you want to be. Nothing personal, but, if I went into counseling and met somebody like you..................I'd request another counselor, because I do not think you would be a good one for a male client. MLA confronted me on my arrogance on being an emt and I deserved it. If I'm going to be with people at their worst moments and most vulnerable...I need to park my ego at the door. Can you!!!?? What you need and expect in your personal life is now NOMFB. I will now back off and leave your threads and responses alone. God knows, I don't need to be accused of stalking by anyone.
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Oh and don't get me wrong PMS, but, I'm just asking for more then a few posts before I give you the benefit of the doubt. I want to give you all the leeway, but, for some reason I feel that being a guy makes me a target for your rage and issues. Don't like it, tooo bad. I've been screwed over by women, do I take it all out on women, Noooooooooooooooo. It's my problem, not yours or theirs, and my girlfriend calls me out on it when I slip.
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Oh and don't get me wrong PMS, but, I'm just asking for more then a few posts before I give you the benefit of the doubt. I want to give you all the leeway, but, for some reason I feel that being a guy makes me a target for your rage and issues. Don't like it, tooo bad. I've been screwed over by women, do I take it all out on women, Noooooooooooooooo. It's my problem, not yours or theirs, and my girlfriend calls me out on it when I slip.
True to that. There are a lot of men/women here (for example) worthy of respect, regardless of all the shitty things many messed up men/women (IRL/online) may have done.
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Oh and don't get me wrong PMS, but, I'm just asking for more then a few posts before I give you the benefit of the doubt. I want to give you all the leeway, but, for some reason I feel that being a guy makes me a target for your rage and issues. Don't like it, tooo bad. I've been screwed over by women, do I take it all out on women, Noooooooooooooooo. It's my problem, not yours or theirs, and my girlfriend calls me out on it when I slip.
True to that. There are a lot of men/women here (for example) worthy of respect, regardless of all the shitty things many messed up men/women (IRL/online) may have done.
I give respect where it's due, I don't like MLA and he doesn't like me, but, I'll give him credit for some degree of honesty. I just don't know why or where he's coming from. :-\ Same with her, give me something to work with and think with. Thats all I ask, other wise FUCK OFF. I hate mind games.
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Seriously , this entire thread = circles, WHY do I keep reading it? :hair:
Someone blindfold me. :(
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:bangbang:
Seriously , this entire thread = circles, WHY do I keep reading it? :hair:
Someone blindfold me. :(
I think the same and kick myself for even responding to it. fwiw, I'm done, read only and thats my guilty pleasure. :P
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Seriously , this entire thread = circles, WHY do I keep reading it? :hair:
Someone blindfold me. :(
I think the same and kick myself for even responding to it. fwiw, I'm done, read only and thats my guilty pleasure. :P
That's what they all say. :P
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Nothing personal, but, if I went into counseling and met somebody like you..................I'd request another counselor, because I do not think you would be a good one for a male client. MLA confronted me on my arrogance on being an emt and I deserved it. If I'm going to be with people at their worst moments and most vulnerable...I need to park my ego at the door. Can you!!!??
Okay. I may regret this, but....
She's not at work. She has a right to act fucked up and let off steam here if she wants. There are a hell of a lot of messed up counsellors out there, in fact a lot of people go into the business because they are or were messed up. It's called professional boundaries and I don't think we can judge, from what we see of Elle here, what she's like when dealing with a client.
You can't wait until you have no personal issues (as if anybody has no personal issues anyway) before even starting to practice therapy. Actually I would say that people who are still close to dysfunction make better therapists in some cases, because they can be more empathetic and they're not just proclaiming solutions from on high. Sure there are some clients who aren't a good fit with some therapists, but I don't see Elle having a problem with every man, just a few of them, ones she's been personally involved with. As a therapist you would never get into a situation of developing a personal friendship with a client on a website like this, that would open the relationship to bad boundaries.
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Nothing personal, but, if I went into counseling and met somebody like you..................I'd request another counselor, because I do not think you would be a good one for a male client. MLA confronted me on my arrogance on being an emt and I deserved it. If I'm going to be with people at their worst moments and most vulnerable...I need to park my ego at the door. Can you!!!??
Okay. I may regret this, but....
She's not at work. She has a right to act fucked up and let off steam here if she wants. There are a hell of a lot of messed up counsellors out there, in fact a lot of people go into the business because they are or were messed up. It's called professional boundaries and I don't think we can judge, from what we see of Elle here, what she's like when dealing with a client.
You can't wait until you have no personal issues (as if anybody has no personal issues anyway) before even starting to practice therapy. Actually I would say that people who are still close to dysfunction make better therapists in some cases, because they can be more empathetic and they're not just proclaiming solutions from on high. Sure there are some clients who aren't a good fit with some therapists, but I don't see Elle having a problem with every man, just a few of them, ones she's been personally involved with. As a therapist you would never get into a situation of developing a personal friendship with a client on a website like this, that would open the relationship to bad boundaries.
You make good points. And I am thinking about this, since it seems a lot of my team members have backgrounds in some sort of family dysfunction. My thing is past relationship dysfunctions.
I just need more to go on to see things differently, especially here. I tend to take people at face value irl and on the internet.
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Okay. I may regret this, but....
Famous last words :lol:
She's not at work. She has a right to act fucked up and let off steam here if she wants. There are a hell of a lot of messed up counsellors out there, in fact a lot of people go into the business because they are or were messed up. It's called professional boundaries and I don't think we can judge, from what we see of Elle here, what she's like when dealing with a client.
Agreed , I think a few people have missed the fact that a lot of people put on a "professional front" or whatever the term is , whilst working when doing such things as counselling.
Psychophant , a question for you : Do you behave differently when on duty?, if so is this probably what Elle does too? and therefore unfair to judge Elle by her behaviour here as an indicator as her effectiveness as a counsellor?
Your opinion is yours of course , but this can come back on you so think carefully. ;)
You can't wait until you have no personal issues (as if anybody has no personal issues anyway) before even starting to practice therapy. Actually I would say that people who are still close to dysfunction make better therapists in some cases, because they can be more empathetic and they're not just proclaiming solutions from on high.
:agreed: , it's one thing having personal knowledge but empathy is a very important bonus I think.
Sure there are some clients who aren't a good fit with some therapists, but I don't see Elle having a problem with every man, just a few of them, ones she's been personally involved with. As a therapist you would never get into a situation of developing a personal friendship with a client on a website like this, that would open the relationship to bad boundaries.
Good point , I can understand Elle potentially having a mistrust of men (not implying she does) due to past experiences but I don't think that would effect her professional behaviour she seems far more mature than that.
That was probably just echoing what Pyraxis said but fuck it. :P
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Seriously , this entire thread = circles, WHY do I keep reading it? :hair:
Someone blindfold me. :(
Because we're gluttons for punishment.
Do you really think we'd blindfold you so you could use your 8 tentacles to grope your way through the issues?
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You make good points. And I am thinking about this, since it seems a lot of my team members have backgrounds in some sort of family dysfunction. My thing is past relationship dysfunctions.
What do you mean by your thing? I know you're an EMT, do you work in psych too?
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:bangbang:
Seriously , this entire thread = circles, WHY do I keep reading it? :hair:
Someone blindfold me. :(
Because we're gluttons for punishment.
Do you really think we'd blindfold you so you could use your 8 tentacles to grope your way through the issues?
Eris is our resident expert on punishment gluttony. :dom:
and ok , the blindfold is probably a bad idea , especially given how clumsy I am :laugh:
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:bangbang:
Seriously , this entire thread = circles, WHY do I keep reading it? :hair:
Someone blindfold me. :(
Because we're gluttons for punishment.
Do you really think we'd blindfold you so you could use your 8 tentacles to grope your way through the issues?
Eris is our resident expert on punishment gluttony. :dom:
and ok , the blindfold is probably a bad idea , especially given how clumsy I am :laugh:
Yeah, but she's sidelined for 3 weeks. Someone has to step on the sub in to take up the slack.
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*nod* I was stupid and probably should not have met Trigger to begin with, let alone texted him and thereby let him have my number. Mean well or not, he has periods of time where he gets weird about boundaries, and I should have anticipated that that was potentially a cyclic thing with him, and not just a one-shot deal once upon a time.
Not stupid.
Don't blame yourself or Trigger that meeting him wasn't what you hoped it would be.
Sometimes something that looks promising as a kind of friendship just doesn't work out. No one to blame.
And, fucked up people sometimes are the best personal friends. I don't know of an other way to find out about friends than to find out. There is no getting to know each other as friends without being vulnerable.
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And, fucked up people sometimes are the best personal friends. I don't know of an other way to find out about friends than to find out. There is no getting to know each other as friends without being vulnerable.
Many of my friend have issues. Crazy people seem to flock to me. Maybe it is because I am non judgmental or maybe birds of a feather, but whatev. I dont expect the people I spend time with to be perfect, or even totally mentally healthy.
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I was prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt. But, after a lot of reading and thinking, it seems like you have the greater issues then trigger. Whatever you have been through, you need to get through it and be the counselor you want to be. Nothing personal, but, if I went into counseling and met somebody like you..................I'd request another counselor, because I do not think you would be a good one for a male client. MLA confronted me on my arrogance on being an emt and I deserved it. If I'm going to be with people at their worst moments and most vulnerable...I need to park my ego at the door. Can you!!!?? What you need and expect in your personal life is now NOMFB. I will now back off and leave your threads and responses alone. God knows, I don't need to be accused of stalking by anyone.
Oh and don't get me wrong PMS, but, I'm just asking for more then a few posts before I give you the benefit of the doubt. I want to give you all the leeway, but, for some reason I feel that being a guy makes me a target for your rage and issues. Don't like it, tooo bad. I've been screwed over by women, do I take it all out on women, Noooooooooooooooo. It's my problem, not yours or theirs, and my girlfriend calls me out on it when I slip.
^in the above two posts, you sound like you're breaking up with me. Were we dating and I didn't notice? O_o
Nothing personal, but, if I went into counseling and met somebody like you..................I'd request another counselor, because I do not think you would be a good one for a male client. MLA confronted me on my arrogance on being an emt and I deserved it. If I'm going to be with people at their worst moments and most vulnerable...I need to park my ego at the door. Can you!!!??
Okay. I may regret this, but....
She's not at work. She has a right to act fucked up and let off steam here if she wants. There are a hell of a lot of messed up counsellors out there, in fact a lot of people go into the business because they are or were messed up. It's called professional boundaries and I don't think we can judge, from what we see of Elle here, what she's like when dealing with a client.
You can't wait until you have no personal issues (as if anybody has no personal issues anyway) before even starting to practice therapy. Actually I would say that people who are still close to dysfunction make better therapists in some cases, because they can be more empathetic and they're not just proclaiming solutions from on high. Sure there are some clients who aren't a good fit with some therapists, but I don't see Elle having a problem with every man, just a few of them, ones she's been personally involved with. As a therapist you would never get into a situation of developing a personal friendship with a client on a website like this, that would open the relationship to bad boundaries.
TY, Pyraxis.
What I'll say is I'm not sure if I can "know" for sure if I'm a "good therapist," but I act very, very differently with that hat on than I do here. Pyraxis is correct that I keep the therapeutic relationship within very specific professional boundaries. I also make it a point to check in with my supervisor when I feel like my own "stuff" might be running interference with my ability to be effective- which happens to every therapist at some point or other.
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Someone blindfold and whip me. :squiddy:
fixed. :green:
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Looking at all of this, I'd have to say that PMS did over-react a little.
Of course it's her right to over-react and everyone elses right to point it out.
Hopefully Trigger doesn't get stuck with the stalker label because he doesn't deserve it.
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I don't like MLA and he doesn't like me,
I don't dislike you, I barely know you. Compare how I interact with you and how I interact with people I genuinely dislike and you will see a major difference. You don't like me because I called you out on your bullshit. This is something that will happen often here. :dunno:
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Someone blindfold and whip me. :squiddy:
fixed. :green:
Well of course that is appreciated too. :zoinks: :eyebrows:
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I am sure Elle is an excellent therapist. I have studied psychology, not to that level, done A level and then 2 out of a 3 year diploma course. You know why i didn't get a degree? it was too damn
difficult! People think it is a fairly easy subject. It's not. It is a science, and it's damn hard.
The one thing that i found out from it - yeah it's great as you are often able to help others, and
see different viewpoints. Yourself? oh forget it! psycho analyse yourself and it is just useless!
For some reason (me personally) i found having these tools that seemed to benefit friends etc
rendered me more confused, and even less able to sort out my own mess.
:LOL:
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^I agree with studying psychology to be hard. I am in my third year and I still feel like I hardly know anything though. And I think at the moment I would be crap at being a therapist. I need people skills.
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I was a Psych major for three semesters, after five of Biology and before my final major of English Lit. This is why it took me 6 years to earn my degree.
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I was a Psych major for three semesters, after five of Biology and before my final major of English Lit. This is why it took me 6 years to earn my degree.
I think it takes a lot of hard work and determination to get a degree, so well done to whoever has one!
I failed. I was spreading myself a bit too thin i think as i was working a lot at the time. Plus being a bit on the dippy side. Anyway it's certainly something to be proud of.
and ren, keep at it, you will get there and it will be worth it!
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^Thanks. :) I still haven't worked out what I will do with the degree, study more, or get a job.
Hubert, what was your degree for in the end?
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^Thanks. :) I still haven't worked out what I will do with the degree, study more, or get a job.
Hubert, what was your degree for in the end?
For? Liberal Arts degrees aren't really "for" anything ;)
It proved that I could stick with something long enough to gain a degree, and it proves that I know how to learn. I don't use it in any way in my current job. If I decide to go to law school it will be pretty useful. My GPA and LSAT scores combined with the fact that many law schools are trying to beef up their English admissions gives me almost guaranteed acceptance to the schools closest to me right now. Unfortunately, hard to do with a young family in tow.
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^Thanks. :) I still haven't worked out what I will do with the degree, study more, or get a job.
Hubert, what was your degree for in the end?
For? Liberal Arts degrees aren't really "for" anything ;)
It proved that I could stick with something long enough to gain a degree, and it proves that I know how to learn. I don't use it in any way in my current job. If I decide to go to law school it will be pretty useful. My GPA and LSAT scores combined with the fact that many law schools are trying to beef up their English admissions gives me almost guaranteed acceptance to the schools closest to me right now. Unfortunately, hard to do with a young family in tow.
What were your LSAT scores? I think you would be a good attorney.
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^Thanks. :) I still haven't worked out what I will do with the degree, study more, or get a job.
Hubert, what was your degree for in the end?
For? Liberal Arts degrees aren't really "for" anything ;)
It proved that I could stick with something long enough to gain a degree, and it proves that I know how to learn. I don't use it in any way in my current job. If I decide to go to law school it will be pretty useful. My GPA and LSAT scores combined with the fact that many law schools are trying to beef up their English admissions gives me almost guaranteed acceptance to the schools closest to me right now. Unfortunately, hard to do with a young family in tow.
What were your LSAT scores? I think you would be a good attorney.
90th percentile.
Thanks :-[