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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #75 on: January 07, 2009, 08:55:00 PM »
Quote from: parts on January 07, 2009, 08:13:22 PM
Quote from: punkdrew on January 07, 2009, 06:00:19 PM
I REALLY, REALLY hope I'm wrong, BTW. I just don't see this democracy working very well, and no signs of improvement. So as Lincoln said, it comes down to alter or abolish.

All we can do now is hope and prepare for the worst >:(

Be brave. The free world depends on you.
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« Reply #76 on: January 08, 2009, 01:59:25 AM »
Quote from: punkdrew on January 07, 2009, 05:47:37 PM
I REALLY hate to say this, but maybe if public officials had to fear physical injury as well as verbal wrath, they MIGHT act in a less fascist manner. It's easy to ignore letters, phone calls and e-mails; not so easy to ignore machine guns.

Unfortunately that particular incentive never works. Would you be more efficient at what you do if you had a gun pointed to your head?
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« Reply #77 on: January 08, 2009, 03:53:28 AM »
No. But these numbnuts have the guns pointed at US and are calling the shots. This is no longer a participatory democracy. I was really hoping Ron Paul would get the Republican nod, even though I knew he had no chance. I would just like them to know what it's like to be Joe the Plumber and have THEIR doors kicked in by SWAT thugs at 3 AM because either a) someone phoned in a false report of a drug lab at their address or b) the cops got the wrong address to begin with. Let them find out what it's like to be sitting at gunpoint with their dead dog(s) or cat(s) undergoing rigor mortis in front of them. Explain THAT to your kids. "Well, Daddy and his friends in Congress really, really wanted to stop people doing drugs. Unfortunately, we kinda went overboard...." They need to know what it's like to have their fascist laws implemented on THEM.
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« Reply #78 on: January 08, 2009, 04:00:53 AM »
Yeah, I see your point, but gunpoint would only reach the front guys, not the decision makers.
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« Reply #79 on: January 08, 2009, 04:03:36 AM »
The decision makers? Oh, we'd dose 'em and put 'em in camps. Hey, it worked in the movies.  :P
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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #80 on: January 08, 2009, 04:05:51 AM »
Quote from: punkdrew on January 08, 2009, 04:03:36 AM
The decision makers? Oh, we'd dose 'em and put 'em in camps. Hey, it worked in the movies.  :P

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« Reply #81 on: January 08, 2009, 05:25:23 AM »
Quote from: odeon on January 08, 2009, 04:00:53 AM
Yeah, I see your point, but gunpoint would only reach the front guys, not the decision makers.

Ever heard of sniper rifles? Bombs?  :eyebrows: :tooledup: :arrr:
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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #82 on: January 08, 2009, 07:10:32 AM »
Quote from: TheoK on January 08, 2009, 05:25:23 AM
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Yeah, I see your point, but gunpoint would only reach the front guys, not the decision makers.

Ever heard of sniper rifles? Bombs?  :eyebrows: :tooledup: :arrr:

Yes. They won't change anything. A society based on fear will not work in the long run.
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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #83 on: January 08, 2009, 08:15:05 AM »
Quote from: odeon on January 08, 2009, 07:10:32 AM
Quote from: TheoK on January 08, 2009, 05:25:23 AM
Quote from: odeon on January 08, 2009, 04:00:53 AM
Yeah, I see your point, but gunpoint would only reach the front guys, not the decision makers.

Ever heard of sniper rifles? Bombs?  :eyebrows: :tooledup: :arrr:

Yes. They won't change anything. A society based on fear will not work in the long run.

I agree but it also makes me worry more about the future here as it is being turned into a society based on fear.  Fear of terrorists , drugs and violence are being used to justify more and more.  Even I finch when I hear the sound of sires and dread the thought of police ever arriving at my door.   Not that I do or have anything illegal but they are looking at everyone and everything different now.  Guilty until proven innocent seems to be the wave of the future.  I only hope to be living far enough out in the country by the time it gets even worse
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« Reply #84 on: January 08, 2009, 08:18:09 AM »
It happens in Europe too. I know guys in the UK and Germany, who have had the cops searching their homes becuase they had salpeter (which is perfectly legal) in their homes.
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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #85 on: January 08, 2009, 08:20:34 AM »
Quote from: TheoK on January 08, 2009, 08:18:09 AM
It happens in Europe too. I know guys in the UK and Germany, who have had the cops searching their homes becuase they had salpeter (which is perfectly legal) in their homes.

I have far more than just that too but like i said all legal but they would make a big deal of it
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« Reply #86 on: January 08, 2009, 12:05:15 PM »
"Love your country, the country hates you in disguise.
Work hard, don't ask why.
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If you have some spare time, don't think, watch TV.
Don't think, switch channel.
Build walls, lock the world out, censor.
Switch channel.
Exchange feeling for plastic, opinion for shrugged shoulders.
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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #87 on: January 08, 2009, 12:10:36 PM »
Quote from: TheoK on January 08, 2009, 08:18:09 AM
It happens in Europe too. I know guys in the UK and Germany, who have had the cops searching their homes becuase they had salpeter (which is perfectly legal) in their homes.

So I guess they won't be prescribing saltpetre to sex offenders any time soon?
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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #88 on: January 08, 2009, 12:15:27 PM »
Quote from: Peter on January 08, 2009, 12:10:36 PM
Quote from: TheoK on January 08, 2009, 08:18:09 AM
It happens in Europe too. I know guys in the UK and Germany, who have had the cops searching their homes becuase they had salpeter (which is perfectly legal) in their homes.

So I guess they won't be prescribing saltpetre to sex offenders any time soon?

No, they give them other drugs. Though salpeter (potassium nitrate) is really a harmless chemical. We even have it in the fish for Christmas in Sweden.
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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #89 on: January 08, 2009, 04:32:20 PM »
Quote from: parts on January 08, 2009, 08:15:05 AM
Quote from: odeon on January 08, 2009, 07:10:32 AM
Quote from: TheoK on January 08, 2009, 05:25:23 AM
Quote from: odeon on January 08, 2009, 04:00:53 AM
Yeah, I see your point, but gunpoint would only reach the front guys, not the decision makers.

Ever heard of sniper rifles? Bombs?  :eyebrows: :tooledup: :arrr:

Yes. They won't change anything. A society based on fear will not work in the long run.

I agree but it also makes me worry more about the future here as it is being turned into a society based on fear.  Fear of terrorists , drugs and violence are being used to justify more and more.  Even I finch when I hear the sound of sires and dread the thought of police ever arriving at my door.   Not that I do or have anything illegal but they are looking at everyone and everything different now.  Guilty until proven innocent seems to be the wave of the future.  I only hope to be living far enough out in the country by the time it gets even worse

I hope things will get better. The US didn't use to be like that.
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