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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2009, 08:57:42 AM »


What makes you think they are?

Oregon is a very strange place.
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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2009, 09:00:32 AM »
From what I've heard Oregon used to be very good 100 years back. There weren't many laws at all.

People must protest and, if that won't help, do something drastic.

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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2009, 12:41:16 PM »
Quote from: Callaway on January 02, 2009, 07:45:05 AM
Quote from: PARTS on January 02, 2009, 06:49:38 AM
It's not just the issue of the tax.  They will know where you are always.  In the NYC region the have metro card for the tolls it was started as an easy quick way to pay them but now the records are used in court ad police investigations

This is a very good point. 

They use cell phones to pinpoint people's general locations for criminal investigations as well.  If your cell phone is on, even if you aren't talking on it, its signal bounces off the nearest cell phone towers.  So if you said you were home when a crime happened somewhere else but your cell phone signal bounced off a tower close to the crime scene at the time the crime happened, they could see that you were lying.

The London congestion charge zone works through a number-plate recognition system that's hooked up to the many, many surveillance cameras in the zone, and given the enormous number of surveillance cameras already in the UK, it would be easy for the government to track the vast majority of vehicles without the need for each vehicle to have it's own tracking system installed.  They're testing face and behaviour recognition systems too, which at the moment can detect if a person is behaving aggressively and flag it for further observation, and it's going to become quite scary when they can track everybody's movements through face recognition.
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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2009, 01:00:10 PM »
Do you still think that Francis E. Dec was completely mad?  ::)
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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2009, 01:30:52 PM »
Yes.  Although surveillance is a growing problem in contemporary society, Francis E. Dec was still a ravingly psychotic schizophrenic.
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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2009, 01:35:47 PM »
But he was kind of claivoyant, wasn't he? Except for the brain bank cities on the moon and the Frankenstein controls everything has proven right. And just wait until you have a compulsory VeriChip implant; then you'll have the Frankenstein controls.
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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2009, 03:38:18 PM »
He wasn't clairvoyant; his delusions just bore some coincidental and minor similarities to modern developments and had more to do with the pathology of schizophrenia than any insight on Dec's part.  It's common for schizophrenics to experience paranoia, egomania and a sensation that they're being controlled by an outside force, and it was these experiences that shaped Dec's delusions; not clairvoyance or an extrapolation of future social and technological trends.
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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2009, 04:13:45 PM »
Quote from: TheoK on January 02, 2009, 07:13:22 AM
It's time to revolt. You have guns in the USA but you don't do anything.

::)
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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2009, 04:14:25 PM »
Quote from: TheoK on January 02, 2009, 01:00:10 PM
Do you still think that Francis E. Dec was completely mad?  ::)

Yes.
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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2009, 04:15:37 PM »
Quote from: TheoK on January 02, 2009, 01:35:47 PM
But he was kind of claivoyant, wasn't he? Except for the brain bank cities on the moon and the Frankenstein controls everything has proven right. And just wait until you have a compulsory VeriChip implant; then you'll have the Frankenstein controls.

You're as mad as he was.
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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2009, 06:03:40 PM »
Quote from: odeon on January 02, 2009, 04:13:45 PM
Quote from: TheoK on January 02, 2009, 07:13:22 AM
It's time to revolt. You have guns in the USA but you don't do anything.

::)

Already David Henry Thoreau thought this was sad, and that was more than 150 years ago.
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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2009, 06:05:09 PM »
Quote from: odeon on January 02, 2009, 04:15:37 PM
Quote from: TheoK on January 02, 2009, 01:35:47 PM
But he was kind of claivoyant, wasn't he? Except for the brain bank cities on the moon and the Frankenstein controls everything has proven right. And just wait until you have a compulsory VeriChip implant; then you'll have the Frankenstein controls.

You're as mad as he was.

So what is this? Doesn't it exist or do you believe in the bullshit that it was designed for the little man's safety?

VeriChip
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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2009, 06:12:15 PM »
Quote from: TheoK on January 02, 2009, 06:05:09 PM
Quote from: odeon on January 02, 2009, 04:15:37 PM
Quote from: TheoK on January 02, 2009, 01:35:47 PM
But he was kind of claivoyant, wasn't he? Except for the brain bank cities on the moon and the Frankenstein controls everything has proven right. And just wait until you have a compulsory VeriChip implant; then you'll have the Frankenstein controls.

You're as mad as he was.

So what is this? Doesn't it exist or do you believe in the bullshit that it was designed for the little man's safety?

VeriChip

The way I read the website, it is currently being used for Alzheimer's patients or to identify remains in the aftermath of Katrina, but I can see the potential that something like this could be abused, so I think I see your point.
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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2009, 06:22:44 PM »
I'm not one whit interested in the ability to identify me after a tsunami and if I get Alzheimer I don't want any stinking VeriChip but Dr. Kevorkian.

And anyone who tries to implant something like that with force in me will pay with their worthless henchman life or their health.
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Re: Just wrong
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2009, 07:10:30 PM »
No chip for me.  .  Chips could be abused even hack a day web site had a hack on how to read and reproduce them
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