Paul Tibbets, son of Enola Gay, dies at 92

[maldoror]

Gah.

You're trying to confuse me by pointing out irrelevant information. What would the status of Japan's army or navy have to do with the development of the bomb? OUR military had nothing to do with the Manhattan project, as far as I'm aware. And are you insinuating that Japan wouldn't have been able to drop it even if they had it? Come on. The Enola Gay was one plane.

[Calandale]

Sure, they could drop one. On China.

They bombed the US mainland TWICE, so far as
I remember. Both submarine based planes, unable
to carry the necessary payload. And the subs were
pretty much destroyed by late war.

 But, do you have
ANY reason to believe that they were close to
developing a bomb? Certes, I don't remember
ever hearing anything along those lines, so it
must have been a recent revelation.

There was some fear about Germany, but they
never were as close as was thought.

[Parts]

I know it's wiki but

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_atomic_program
they where working on it even if they could not have gotten it here China perhapts

[maldoror]

Sure, they could drop one. On China.

They bombed the US mainland TWICE, so far as
I remember. Both submarine based planes, unable
to carry the necessary payload. And the subs were
pretty much destroyed by late war.

 But, do you have
ANY reason to believe that they were close to
developing a bomb? Certes, I don't remember
ever hearing anything along those lines, so it
must have been a recent revelation.

There was some fear about Germany, but they
never were as close as was thought.

To be honest, I took it as read. It just seems like common sense. I don't really know much about WWII history, but maybe I'll read something soon.

[Calandale]

The Japanese didn't make a lot of technical advances,
once the war was underway (with the US). They
played with some weird ideas (armored carriers,
for example), but nothing really innovative.

[Parts]

They did a lot of germ warfare experiments even during the war.  Many of the scientists involved in these were not tried for war crimes as they should have but where brought in to our military to develop it for use against the Soviets

Sure, they could drop one. On China.

people in China are still people they could have also used them in attacks on our navy

[maldoror]

They did a lot of germ warfare experiments even during the war.  Many of the scientists involved in these were not tried for war crimes as they should have but where brought in to our military to develop it for use against the Soviets

I remember reading about that. I think it was a pretty famous general was was responsible for it, but I can't remember who. He took the results and just let the guy off scot free.

[Parts]

They did a lot of germ warfare experiments even during the war.  Many of the scientists involved in these were not tried for war crimes as they should have but where brought in to our military to develop it for use against the Soviets

I remember reading about that. I think it was a pretty famous general was was responsible for it, but I can't remember who. He took the results and just let the guy off scot free.

We even employed some of the scientists

[maldoror]

I think it might have been MacArthur who pardoned him.

[Parts]

MacArthur was pretty much in charge of the whole show so even if it wasn't him he approved it or it would not have happened

[Calandale]

people in China are still people they could have also used them in attacks on our navy

Yeah, but we weren't all that worried about the
Chinese dying. We were worried about them
falling. Which wouldn't have happened at that
late date. As to the navy, such an attack would
be pathetic. Sure, one bomb might fuck up a number
of ships, but it wouldn't change much.

[Parts]

One bomb in that area when they were invading Okinawa would have been a serious setback as the ships were packed pretty close because of the suicide attacks for defense.  I am pretty sure if invading the main island it would have been the same.   

[Calandale]

One bomb in that area when they were invading Okinawa would have been a serious setback as the ships were packed pretty close because of the suicide attacks for defense.  I am pretty sure if invading the main island it would have been the same.   

Yeah. A bomb could prevent an invasion site.
But, I'm sure that like D-Day, the plan would
have hit several locations at once. Presuming
that such would happen - the US estimate was
1000000 losses in such an attempt.  THAT'S
why we used the bomb.

[Parts]

And that is why I got to meet my uncles who could very well have been one of those million as an other that would have been my uncles met his fate in Normandy

[Calandale]

Stationed in the pacific?