Juggling the feuds..?

[Tom/Mutate]

I was thinking about how to be friends with people who hate each other online?   I made fun of RobN's pics on here last year, which was wrong of me.  I thought he was just another funny poster and everybody would like the laugh, but I didn't realize how much people hated him on here.   I remember posting on WP when Dunc, Omega, Ascan etc were all just seen as friends to me, but when I joined this site there were huge rivalries between them which I missed.   I joined after it had all blown over, so I didn't understand it, but I heard it had something to a pic of Omega that people made fun of or Robert not coping.   

I personally think it is cruel to attack Robert whatever he does, because he doesn't really come across to me as tough enough (or even "NT" enough..?) to stand up to the likes of Dunc.  But, I have been thinking about whether it is possible for me to post as a trusted member on this site and the other (AV), and whether it is possible for me to be both friends with the RobN crowd on AV, and the Dunc crowd here. 

I personally do not think I should feel that gulity about what I did, posting AV text here - BECAUSE - everything I posted was either a funny troll post of mine and peoples reactions to it,  or, people discussing this site there.   I thought it was only fair for people hear to see what was being said about them - but maybe I was wrong?  Maybe they do have a right do talk about you in secret.

If I had posted people's private support chat here, people talking about their depression or sensitive topics, then , I could see people complaining.   But, I don't want people on AV to think that they are not safe, that they can't trust me not to post sensitive things here.  I saw Rob and Omega on the meetup and they were saying how I shouldnt post here to make fun of AV because "I've got so much more to lose than the people on that site" (meaning my friends on AV).  And I dont want to, so I am thinking about what I did wrong, and how I can regain people's trust.  And if it is possible for me to still post here and be friends with this lot while doing that.

[purposefulinsanity]

If you feel bad about what you've done in the past then apologise for it and move on, trying to shift the blame doesn't make your remorse seem sincere imo- its not like anyone was holding a gun to your head when you posted those pics, etc.

The falling out with robertn was over a long time ago-and was never about people hating him- it was about people sharing different opinions and about a difference of opinion when it comes to how Intensity should be run (with robertn wanting it closed down completely). The recent postings made on AV by Intensity members happened because a member of Intensity was banned from AV, it was nothing to do with robertn.

Its up to you to decide where you want to post (personally I don't see why you can't post at both places), if you've lost the trust of the people on AV I doubt its just because you post here, but because of some of the types of posts you have made- if you feel you were wrong to do so accepting responsibility for your actions might help.

[The_P]

I want to go to those meet-ups just so I could witness the reactions of RobertN, Omega and Praetor. 
 
Look Tom, you seem to be the kind of guy that has a big heart for people (I admire that), so if you feel that you've went overboard, swallow your pride, make your apologies and move on. Don't dwell on it so much -- no-one's perfect.

And don't let this fucking jeapordise who you chose to socialise with.

[richard]

there never going to change so why bother

[odeon]

I haven't given up on you yet. Are you saying that I should?

[duncvis]

One point for you Tom - this isn't the 'Dunc crowd', regardless of what they might think - its Intensity. Home of shitloads of other folk who aren't me, aren't under my secret control (or *gasp* terrified to disagree with me), etc, etc. Most of this bollocks would have been dead and buried if not for the meddling and encouragement of Ascan. Nobody hates RobertN particularly (except maybe Scrapheap, for reasons not connected with Intensity) - and both Omega and Ascan have earned my lasting enmity through their own actions. Which doesn't mean you have to pick a side mate. Do what you fucking like, and take ownership of your own actions. If they're gonna judge you for hanging out with us thats their problem, not yours, as long as your own conscience is clear.

[Calandale]

^ I don't even know him from shit.

[Scrapheap]

Nobody hates RobertN particularly (except maybe Scrapheap, for reasons not connected with Intensity)

I don't hate RobertN personally, I'ts more his constant America bashing and general emo/lametard, Neville Chamberlain attitude that I can't stand.

[DirtDawg]

^ I don't even know him from shit.

This is Duncvis:




This is shit:

[Scrapheap]

I'm sure even cal will understand it now DD. 

[Calandale]

So, they are both images on my computer? I didn't realize that they were the
same thing, in essence.

[odeon]

I want my own in-crowd.

[esme456]

I feel uneasy posting exactly what I think of AV/people on AV on here as I am pretty sure they are reading it as guests

An issue I have recently discussed on here concerning several people from AV has been brought up with me via email recently by one of the people I mentioned - this seems far too much of a coincidence to me

People on AV know damn well they have no influence over me on here but I feel some are subtly trying to mitigate for the bad press they feel I might have given them on here

I feel this is cowardly - If they don't like it, they can sign up on here and discuss it in person!

In fact there is such a f-ing elite thing going on on that board that some members won't even communicate with me directly - they manipulate others to do it for them, like using them as spies - I find this totally pathetic!

[McGiver]

i agree it is cowardly.

like i have stated before, the brits are way to into classism for their own good.
why does everything have to be grouped so neatly in classes?

[purposefulinsanity]

i agree it is cowardly.

like i have stated before, the brits are way to into classism for their own good.
why does everything have to be grouped so neatly in classes?

I don't necessarily think that's a British thing- but it does make sense as an AS thing- the need for order, clear boundaries and all that.