Bitches, have you voted?

['andersom']

If you are  you don't need healthcare. Great grandpa died at 84 without being to a doctor ever 

Grandpa went to a garage to buy parts, his cars never were repaired by someone else than him.

Unless he built the car and the parts himself, he was still part of an oppressive system.

OF course he was. I just wanted to boast about my granddad. He was very cool.  And, he was an active part of the oppressive system too. 

[TheoK]

My dad also always repairs the cars. That's one of his Aspie special interests.

['andersom']

Pah, my granddad had all licences, from the moment licences were needed, and, he had them till his dying day. AT age 86, he still was the best driver in the family. And, he would still be guilty of speeding now and then, at that age.

(the day after he died, they expired, true story.  )

[TheoK]

Great granddad was actually one of the first persons to have a license in Sweden, already in 1916. He also had licenses for all vehicles. He was also a tram driver in Göteborg until he retired at 67 

[Pyraxis]

You don't seem to grasp the width of how wrong this system is. If you have read "1984", you know that they pretend to wage war only to destroy things so that the working masses have to work harder to be kept in check.

Now this isn't a fantasy by George Orwell but is actually reality in 2012. Robots and computers could do 90-95% of all work already, so why don't they? Why do people have to work? To keep them in check, so that the psychopaths in charge can still have their power. If people didn't have to work, the hierarchy would break down. People could use all their free time to demand their rights. That mustn't happen, so people must be kept wage slaves.

I see a lot of people who don't work and spend their time demanding their rights. The problem is that they demand them to the internet and nobody pays any attention.

[TheoK]

Well, I don't care. The idiots that obviously don't value their freedom have to pay for my living with their taxes that way.

["couldbecousin"]

Well, I don't care. The idiots that obviously don't value their freedom have to pay for my living with their taxes that way.

  Works out nicely for you, anyway. 

["couldbecousin"]

You don't seem to grasp the width of how wrong this system is. If you have read "1984", you know that they pretend to wage war only to destroy things so that the working masses have to work harder to be kept in check.

Now this isn't a fantasy by George Orwell but is actually reality in 2012. Robots and computers could do 90-95% of all work already, so why don't they?  Why do people have to work? To keep them in check, so that the psychopaths in charge can still have their power. If people didn't have to work, the hierarchy would break down. People could use all their free time to demand their rights. That mustn't happen, so people must be kept wage slaves.

That is also the reason why we have the immigration to the western world: to destroy the social security system and divide and conquer.

  People have always had to work, in order to survive.  Your  hypothetical free and
  independent farmers living off their land would have to work much harder than I do.
  Our primitive ancestors busted their asses hunting and gathering. 
  It has always been thus. 


  Re: westward immigration:  Obviously, everyone wants our freedom
  and awesome consumer goods!   

[odeon]

Well, I don't care. The idiots that obviously don't value their freedom have to pay for my living with their taxes that way.

I value my freedom, but not necessarily in a way you approve of. I'm glad you approve of me paying taxes to support you, though.

[midlifeaspie]

If you ever watched the Smurfs then you know that we are living in a communist society ... in mushrooms even!!  This isn't a fantasy in 2012.  The robots are real!

[TheoK]

 

[El]

FFS, we've all read 1984. I am sick to death of people referencing 1984 when talking about today's society. Yes, there are parallels. No, it is not the same thing. Lit, I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I don't think the world is great either. I don't like the system either. But your alternative is unrealistic and your view is too extreme.

But, Adam, 1984 was written by god as a metaphor to predict the End Times and must be taken as a holy text!  Nonbelievers will have rats attached to their faces!!!

[odeon]

FFS, we've all read 1984. I am sick to death of people referencing 1984 when talking about today's society. Yes, there are parallels. No, it is not the same thing. Lit, I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I don't think the world is great either. I don't like the system either. But your alternative is unrealistic and your view is too extreme.

But, Adam, 1984 was written by god as a metaphor to predict the End Times and must be taken as a holy text!  Nonbelievers will have rats attached to their faces!!!

  That is a cheery image. Thank you.

[TheoK]

Seriously speaking: today's society is like a synthesis between 1984 and Brave New World.

[midlifeaspie]

Seriously speaking: today's society is like a synthesis between 1984 and Brave New World.

Don't forget Atlas Shrugged and Super Mario Bros 3