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Ok, free speech and all that.
« on: January 01, 2012, 09:09:08 AM »
What do you say is free speech in the Intensian environment?

I think this should be made clear.

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Re: Ok, free speech and all that.
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2012, 09:50:11 AM »
When an internet message board's drama and supposed agenda become more important than real life and personal boundaries and privacy, we all lose.
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Re: Ok, free speech and all that.
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2012, 10:11:06 AM »
I think it's a matter of basic respect that all humans regardless should be entitled to. Say whatever shit you want so long as it's not something that threatens any member's right to safety and privacy.

In free speech, all opinions are welcome, but the way you express your opinion or view may not always be welcome.

Free speech is free speech not free assault.

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Re: Ok, free speech and all that.
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2012, 10:15:22 AM »
Exactly. Free speech is a responsibility too, not just a right.
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Re: Ok, free speech and all that.
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2012, 12:38:19 PM »
Exactly. Free speech is a responsibility too, not just a right.

Rights come with responsibilities. Free action without responsibility is called license.  :M

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Re: Ok, free speech and all that.
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2012, 01:54:33 PM »
License? That's a new one, what do you mean?
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Re: Ok, free speech and all that.
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2012, 01:59:24 PM »


Posting personal information is bad form.

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Re: Ok, free speech and all that.
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2012, 09:23:45 PM »
It is subjective.  Offense is subjective to the reader.

Each person should have the right to communicate according to their ability or preferred style.
If said communication infringes on someone else's privacy, freedom, or safety then it is up to the community to call bullshit.
For example; if someone posts another pesons personal messages without their consent then they have infringed upon that persons right to privacy.

This has happened in the past.  Though not to often.  The responsibility that odeon talks about, I think, is about moderating our own behaviors so that we do not cross that line.  If a person cannot moderate themselves (I understand this because I have impulse control issues) then it is up to the rest of us to point out how such behavior is wrong.
If the perso does not get it, then the community should call them on it, repeatedly.  Make them feel unwelcome.  If that does not work the they are just a troll looking for attention.  The best way to handle a troll is to ignore them.

Personal attacks are ok, IMHO, if that is how you choose to communicate a point.  Although, if you do the others will learn to blow you off as irrelevant.
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Re: Ok, free speech and all that.
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2012, 09:28:12 PM »
Bring on the karma, bitches.
Or not.
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Re: Ok, free speech and all that.
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2012, 10:09:07 PM »
It is subjective.  Offense is subjective to the reader.

Sure, personal attacks are sometimes necessary even.

But when it comes to threatening of physical/property safety or unsolicited private details, I don't think there's anything subjective there.

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Re: Ok, free speech and all that.
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2012, 10:21:26 PM »
It is subjective.  Offense is subjective to the reader.

Sure, personal attacks are sometimes necessary even.

But when it comes to threatening of physical/property safety or unsolicited private details, I don't think there's anything subjective there.
Wasn't I clear?  Or were you agreeing with me?
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Re: Ok, free speech and all that.
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2012, 10:28:24 PM »
It is subjective.  Offense is subjective to the reader.

Sure, personal attacks are sometimes necessary even.

But when it comes to threatening of physical/property safety or unsolicited private details, I don't think there's anything subjective there.
Wasn't I clear?  Or were you agreeing with me?

I was just pointing out something that needed to be mentioned in response to what you said.