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Politics, Mature and taboo => Political Pundits => Topic started by: Yuri Bezmenov on October 24, 2014, 07:06:45 PM
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Real Time with Bill Maher: Ben Affleck, Sam Harris and Bill Maher Debate Radical Islam (HBO) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vln9D81eO60#ws)
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Maher is a monumental cunt. It's fucking hilarious when die hard ancient aliens pretend to be liberal :hahaha:
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Sooo.. anyone who supports Israel in the slightest is a "die hard ancient alien" ::)
Supporting Israel isn't incompatible with Liberalism. Hell, that's one thing that liberals and conservatives USED to agree on.
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Sooo.. anyone who supports Israel in the slightest is a "die hard ancient alien" ::)
Supporting Israel isn't incompatible with Liberalism. Hell, that's one thing that liberals and conservatives USED to agree on.
He is a die hard ancient alien.
Yes it is, unless someone is hideously ignorant of the facts. You can't support a state that has racially segregated schools, areas and roads, bans Jews who they don't agree with, treats its "unrecognized" citizens like vermin, blows up schools and hospitals etc, and be liberal.
Not sure about Maher. He just seems like a complete moron.
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You can be a ancient alien and not support Israel's murderous policies. Like Matti Peled, who was a General until just after the Six Day War. He always fought for Palestinian rights.
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thank god for word filters. :green:
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Supporting Israel isn't incompatible with Liberalism. Hell, that's one thing that liberals and conservatives USED to agree on.
They still seem to agree on it, at least those in power do for the most part. That's the case in the UK anyway. Not sure how things are in America. Obama's government supports Israel and he's a Liberal.
They're all assholes in my eyes. American Conservatives, American Liberals, British Conservatives and British Liberals (there is a difference between the Liberals and Conservatives of both nations). Hell, Conservatives and Liberals in all countries across the globe.
While they may not agree on everything, there's one thing I think we can all agree on about them. They're all cunts. :thumbup:
You can be a ancient alien and not support Israel's murderous policies. Like Matti Peled, who was a General until just after the Six Day War. He always fought for Palestinian rights.
His fight was for nothing. Palestinians will never have rights. That's not something I agree with at all, but that's how things are. I honestly can't see things changing in this world, not at least until humanity wipes itself off the face of the Earth.
Palestinians do have one right and they're equal in one sense. They're all equal, regardless of gender, age (ect) to be targets for Israel's expensive and highly superior weapons. At least Israel doesn't discriminate against them in that sense.
thank god for word filters. :green:
Thankfully, I know how to bypass it. Watch and learn Benji:
Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist Zionist
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Thankfully, I know how to bypass it. Watch and learn Benji:
The word filter was put in place after the fact, so it would be a huge pain for him to go back and fix all his posts now. :dunno:
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Thankfully, I know how to bypass it. Watch and learn Benji:
The word filter was put in place after the fact, so it would be a huge pain for him to go back and fix all his posts now. :dunno:
You know what else is a huge pain? Trying to call someone a Zionist and ending up calling them an ancient alien :M
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You know what else is a huge pain? Trying to call someone a Zionist and ending up calling them an ancient alien :M
The point is, is that it's the same difference. ::) 8)
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You know what else is a huge pain? Trying to call someone a Zionist and ending up calling them an ancient alien :M
The point is, is that it's the same difference. ::) 8)
How so?
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It's the level of argumentation i'm dealing with.
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It's the level of argumentation i'm dealing with.
Scrappy can't argue with you. Instead he resorts to making fun of word-filters he recommended in the first place and insulting people who disagree with him.
I wouldn't really call it an argument.
"Proper" argument:
Person 1: Well I think X
Person 2: You're wrong because of what Y said/did
Person 1: Y is not a trustworthy source, it is full of holes
(ect)
Scrappy "argument":
Person 1: Well I think X
Scrappy: You're an anti-semetic kool aid drinker for even considering that.
Person 1: But what about what Y says? You can't pretend that never happened
Scrappy: Hehehe word-filters
(ect)
Call me a hypocritical hippo if needbe for insulting Scrappy's style of "argument" but I hope you see my point Benj :M
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sorry but all I hear is blah blah blah
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sorry but all I hear is blah blah blah
That is why you fail (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLrpBLDWyCI#ws)
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and I watched the video and still all I hear is distention among those that are 'on the same team' btw I'm pro Israel :nerdy:
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btw I'm pro Israel :nerdy:
Ah, so you're a fan of genocide. Good for you. :orly:
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Ben Affleck is a moron
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btw I'm pro Israel :nerdy:
Ah, so you're a fan of genocide. Good for you. :orly:
No I'm a fan of a country defending itself...I hate genocide... :orly:
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btw I'm pro Israel :nerdy:
Ah, so you're a fan of genocide. Good for you. :orly:
No I'm a fan of a country defending itself...I hate genocide... :orly:
My mistake, I forgot that children playing football on a beach and unarmed civilians are a massive threat .
I forgot that glorified homemade rockets without targeting systems compare to billion-dollar war machines with the most advanced targeting systems on earth funded by the US and UK in terms of how dangerous they are.
I forgot that hospitals, power stations and schools built by the UN count as military targets
My mistake. :finger:
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Hey I'm not saying they are perfect...both sides are to blame for all of it...the Palestinians are awful to their own (not all mind you)...I don't get that...plus I have friends that live on both sides, and live in fear of and or with daily bombing daily...I am for a sane solution, and I don't get the hostility but hey that's OK agree to disagree...
I am used to the flack that comes with supporting Israel and supporting Palestinians that want nothing to do with this at all...
Then there are those that are Christians who are being killed in the 1,000's but no one gives a damn...so no I am not for mass murder, I am for peace...
will believe what you will (as all do) and I have no qualms with you or with what you think...but that is where I stand and I'm not ashamed to say so...
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I originally wasn't going to reply to this post as I didn't really see a point. No matter what I say, it's not going to change anyone's mind. Then I thought to myself, well if it's not going to change anyone's mind then what have I got to lose? :dunno:
Hey I'm not saying they are perfect...both sides are to blame for all of it...
Hamas wasn't created until 1987. The occupation, the war crimes. It was all going on from before that. How is this the fault of the Palestinians exactly?
the Palestinians are awful to their own (not all mind you)
Your source?
If you're talking about the lack of medical care and the child mortality rate, that's not their fault. If you're talking about "using children as shields", that's never been proven. The only people who claim it are people working in Israel, not exactly a trustworthy source when it comes to Palestine.
...I don't get that...plus I have friends that live on both sides, and live in fear of and or with daily bombing daily...
The main difference is resources. What would you be more afraid of? Overglorified homemade fireworks that can be taken out or the most advanced weapons system money can buy?
I am for a sane solution, and I don't get the hostility but hey that's OK agree to disagree...
I don't get why people are in favour of genocide either. I don't get why people blindly support war crimes. I suppose that's the human race for you. :dunno:
The four things I hate the most in this world are genocide, injustice, religion and politics. If anything involves any one of those things the chances are I will be hostile towards it. This "conflict" involves all four.
I am used to the flack that comes with supporting Israel and supporting Palestinians that want nothing to do with this at all...
Israel wants nothing to do with this did I just hear you say? :orly:
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2014/10/14/israeli-professor-calls-for-palestinian-genocide/ (http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2014/10/14/israeli-professor-calls-for-palestinian-genocide/)
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/gaza-strip-palestinian-genocide-permissible-claims-israeli-writer-1459390 (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/gaza-strip-palestinian-genocide-permissible-claims-israeli-writer-1459390)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1580339/Israeli-minister-vows-Palestinian-holocaust.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1580339/Israeli-minister-vows-Palestinian-holocaust.html)
http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/locals-cheer-bombing-from-sderot-cinema-as-israel-steps-up-attacks-on-hamas-in-gaza-strip/story-fnh81ifq-1226988013066 (http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/locals-cheer-bombing-from-sderot-cinema-as-israel-steps-up-attacks-on-hamas-in-gaza-strip/story-fnh81ifq-1226988013066)
I can get more sources if you like.
Of course I imagine there are Palestinians who want nothing more but every single Israeli dead but thankfully for Israel they don't have the resources.
Then there are those that are Christians who are being killed in the 1,000's but no one gives a damn...
You say that nobody gives a damn? Watch the news.
The last time I checked, people didn't give a damn about Palestine and everyone rallied together against the slaughter of Christians. Both things are wrong of course but the way I see it is that if you can't pick and choose when mass murder is okay. If you're against one mass murder, you have to be against all mass murder otherwise you're a hypocritical asshole.
so no I am not for mass murder, I am for peace...
Considering you support a state that's guilty of numerous war crimes, that's a bit hypocritical.
I don't support the UK, the US or any country or government that's guilty of war crimes or injustice. In that sense, I don't really support anyone I suppose. :dunno:
Fuck politics, fuck Israel and above all fuck the human race.
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It's the level of argumentation i'm dealing with.
Scrappy can't argue with you. Instead he resorts to making fun of word-filters he recommended in the first place and insulting people who disagree with him.
I wouldn't really call it an argument.
"Proper" argument:
Person 1: Well I think X
Person 2: You're wrong because of what Y said/did
Person 1: Y is not a trustworthy source, it is full of holes
(ect)
Scrappy "argument":
Person 1: Well I think X
Scrappy: You're an anti-semetic kool aid drinker for even considering that.
Person 1: But what about what Y says? You can't pretend that never happened
Scrappy: Hehehe word-filters
(ect)
Call me a hypocritical hippo if needbe for insulting Scrappy's style of "argument" but I hope you see my point Benj :M
Yes I see your point. The thing is, he actually can hold his own on some subjects, where he's bothered to read into, but mostly he's an ignorant cunt and needs to adopt this childish shit to make up for that.
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btw I'm pro Israel :nerdy:
Ah, so you're a fan of genocide. Good for you. :orly:
No I'm a fan of a country defending itself...I hate genocide... :orly:
If you just swallow what Israel says (99.9% tripe), then you are going to support Israel. The sad thing is, most of what you believe has been debunked, it just hasn't been on any ancient alien TV channel.
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I think she's also ignoring the Palestinian Christian population.
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If you just swallow what Israel says (99.9% tripe), then you are going to support Israel. The sad thing is, most of what you believe has been debunked, it just hasn't been on any Zionist TV channel.
Found this.
(http://i.imgur.com/tGSCkyj.jpg)
You like?
After the BBC removed their reporter who said he found no evidence of human shields as this was deemed "anti-semite" I pretty much lost all respect for their "news"
I think she's also ignoring the Palestinian Christian population.
A lot of people seem to forget that Palestinian isn't 100% "brown people" and Muslims.
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The BBC said he was on holiday!
Yep!
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Honestly I'm against violence period...yes humans some humans suck, many do it's our 'sin' or as I dub it 'suck' nature...people have choices and they make them on a daily basis right or wrong isn't relative it's pretty concrete I'm sorry but sawing off folks heads no matter the side is just a. ew b. wrong wrong wrong...I hate war, but even more then that I hate the evil nature of humans...
You're correct it did come across as hypocritical, I didn't mean for it to...only so much in typed form can be expressed I suppose...I like every other human on the face of the earth constantly struggle against what I want to do (might not be the best thing for others I mean being lazy or xyz other here) and what needs to be done what I really don't want to do is say work out or eat right even though I'm not seeing results as fast because of the meds I'm on hindering the weight loss making it slower (I know apples and oranges comparison) but I still do it...
The people who grow up in an environment of violence well they do have a choice but they are too afraid to go aginst the grain hence those that are Palestinian Christians are being hand have been murdered in mass numbers women and children too off with their heads on pikes as well as the men (remember when they fled this past summer to the mountains? it was awful) I don't just say this, it's one of the things I try to do something positive about (one of things I am 110 percent dedicated to are those that are Christians being killed just because they believe in Christ and donating monthly to an organization where all the funds go directly to help them) I don't say that to toot a horn, I could care less about 'oh look at Hannah' If I had my way I'd go over and help them (yes right in the middle of the conflict)
I've been overseas before, I've seen someone shot before on a mission/humanitarian trip I took at age 17 to China to help some middle school aged kids...my heart is to help people, to assume the best of people, to love folks yes all folks even those that hate me for the very love for them I have...
This all said Some Bloke I believe you are a good person, with a good heart as well...not much more I can type about this...but that is where I stand...
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Scrappy, I can't believe I'm even saying this but I owe you an apology. You see, I used to think you were delusional and an Islamophobe. I also used to think that you were kinda dumb, that you didn't know a lot of what really happened in parts of the world.
I take all of it back. It seems I didn't really know the true definition of any of those words, not until I read Hanna's latest post.
Sincerely yours
The Asshole Beyond The Wall
Honestly I'm against violence period...yes humans some humans suck, many do it's our 'sin' or as I dub it 'suck' nature...people have choices and they make them on a daily basis right or wrong isn't relative
Human nature for you :dunno:
it's pretty concrete
Human nature, unlike your posts is very concrete. Human beings are assholes, end of.
I'm sorry but sawing off folks heads no matter the side is just a. ew b. wrong wrong wrong...I hate war, but even
more then that I hate the evil nature of humans...
That's ISIS. Hamas, while it has ties to the Islamic faith and both exist within the Middle East. They're not the same guys. Unless you completely bought Israeli propaganda 100% (and no I'm not talking about Western news), you shouldn't even think that.
You're correct it did come across as hypocritical, I didn't mean for it to...
You came across as a hypocrite in your last post, now you come across as things a lot worse than a simple hypocrite.
Everyone can be a hypocrite sometimes. That's forgiveable. Some other things are a bit more difficult to forgive though.
The people who grow up in an environment of violence well they do have a choice but they are too afraid to go aginst the grain hence those that are Palestinian Christians are being hand have been murdered in mass numbers
By Israel. They have been killed in large numbers by Israel.
women and children too off with their heads on pikes as well as the men (remember when they fled this past summer to the mountains? it was awful)
Oh my fucking God... :facepalm2: :facepalm2:
Seriously? That's not even the same fucking country! I could tolerate a mix-up between Hamas and ISIS as both have ties to the Islamic faith, but this is something else. I'm wondering if you can even point to Palestine (or what's left of it) on a map now.
ISIS KILLED THOSE PEOPLE, ISIS CAUSED PEOPLE TO FLEE TO THE MOUNTAINS. HAMAS HAD NO PART IN ANY OF THAT
THERE ARE NO MOUNTAINS IN THE GAZA STRIP TO BEGIN WITH, THERE IS NOWHERE FOR ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE TO RUN
(http://i.imgur.com/d4WvVul.jpg)
I'll ask you the same question I asked in my last post, but you've ignored it so I'll ask again
WHAT ARE YOUR SOURCES?
I don't just say this, it's one of the things I try to do something positive about (one of things I am 110 percent dedicated to are those that are Christians being killed just because they believe in Christ and donating monthly to an organization where all the funds go directly to help them)
The last time I checked, there aren't any charities that actually help people living in Palestine. This is because Israel does not allow them in. They would not allow the Red Cross access to certain parts of Palestine.
my heart is to help people, to assume the best of people, to love folks yes all folks even those that hate me for the very love for them I have...
If you really want to help people living in Palestine. Learn some facts first
Then again, Palestine is a lost cause. Everyone living there is going to die and there isn't anything any of us can do.
This all said Some Bloke I believe you are a good person, with a good heart as well...not much more I can type about this...but that is where I stand...
I think there's plenty more you can type. Maybe start with some sources?
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I like that Jon Stewart picture :)
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I like that Jon Stewart picture :)
I like Jon Stewart in general. One of the very few people involved in Western media and probably media in general who I actually respect. He uses comedy to get his points across, I like that too. :)
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:)