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Title: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: Parts on February 17, 2012, 02:16:36 PM
Foster Friess (Santorum Super PAC supporter): Bayer Aspirin For Contraception (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMVzaIMYuTY#ws)
Foster Friess is the head of a  Super PAC that supports Rick Santorum who wants to be our president said  "This contraceptive thing — my gosh it's so . . . inexpensive. Back in my days they used Bayer aspirin for contraception. The gals put it between their knees and it wasn't that costly,"   :zombiefuck:  Then said he was joking but if you look at Santorum's views it's not far from what he would approve of.

Here are his views on it.
"One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is I think the dangers of contraception in this country.... Many of the Christian faith have said, well, that's okay, contraception is okay. It's not okay. It's a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be." (Speaking with CaffeinatedThoughts.com, Oct. 18, 2011)

Here's one on gays
"If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual [gay] sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does. ... That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing." (AP interview, April 7, 2003)

WTF he is a front runner in the race tied with Romney.   
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: Icequeen on February 17, 2012, 02:22:09 PM
 :wanker: WTF is wrong with people? He should have never made it this far.

Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: Phallacy on February 17, 2012, 02:25:02 PM
He needs to have a condom put over his face.
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: "couldbecousin" on February 17, 2012, 02:37:54 PM
He needs to have a condom put over his face.

 That would definitely interest me in watching the debates on TV.  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: Adam on February 17, 2012, 02:48:48 PM
republicans =  :wanker:
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: Parts on February 17, 2012, 03:51:57 PM
republicans =  :wanker:

I knew you would love him  :green:  You should look up some of his other quotes and ideas if you want a good laugh
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: El on February 17, 2012, 05:49:32 PM
It always bothers me that metaphors like that incorrectly imply that sex can't be had unless the woman's legs are spread.
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: Adam on February 17, 2012, 05:50:28 PM
republicans =  :wanker:

I knew you would love him  :green:  You should look up some of his other quotes and ideas if you want a good laugh

I've seen some of his shit on youtube and stuff, the guy is fucking insane , isn't he :P
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: Parts on February 17, 2012, 05:54:13 PM
republicans =  :wanker:

I knew you would love him  :green:  You should look up some of his other quotes and ideas if you want a good laugh

I've seen some of his shit on youtube and stuff, the guy is fucking insane , isn't he :P

I would find it all so much more funny if he was not a serious candidate for president although I think he would have no chance of winning
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: El on February 17, 2012, 07:02:20 PM
republicans =  :wanker:

I knew you would love him  :green:  You should look up some of his other quotes and ideas if you want a good laugh

I've seen some of his shit on youtube and stuff, the guy is fucking insane , isn't he :P

I would find it all so much more funny if he was not a serious candidate for president although I think he would have no chance of winning
Yeah the plus side of Santorum is he'd be less likely than some of the other GOP candidates to help the crazier of the two parties actually gain the ability to spend the next four years fucking america up the ass.
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: Adam on February 17, 2012, 07:12:15 PM
do any of them at least have the comedy value of a george bush? just to try and make it easier to deal with if it does happen?
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: Pyraxis on February 17, 2012, 09:20:44 PM
Yeah the plus side of Santorum is he'd be less likely than some of the other GOP candidates to help the crazier of the two parties actually gain the ability to spend the next four years fucking america up the ass.

Always looking on the bright side.
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: El on February 17, 2012, 10:37:04 PM
Yeah the plus side of Santorum is he'd be less likely than some of the other GOP candidates to help the crazier of the two parties actually gain the ability to spend the next four years fucking america up the ass.

Always looking on the bright side.
Hey, seems obvious to me.   :M
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: Dexter Morgan on February 20, 2012, 10:56:29 AM
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I get such a chuckle when these things come out. Here we have millions of our fellow Americans unemployed. We have jihadist camps being set up in central – in Latin America, which Rick has been warning about, and people seem to be so preoccupied with sex.
Yes, let's do talk about those jihadist camps.
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: Adam on February 20, 2012, 11:54:02 AM
I read somewhee yesterday that Santorum was saying obama "encourages abortion" ? lol

I didn't read thru thr whole article and couldn't find the quote, and I know news headlines sensationalise things, but was that really what he was gettting at?
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: El on February 20, 2012, 12:11:31 PM
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I get such a chuckle when these things come out. Here we have millions of our fellow Americans unemployed. We have jihadist camps being set up in central – in Latin America, which Rick has been warning about, and people seem to be so preoccupied with sex.
Yes, let's do talk about those jihadist camps.
Who is that quoting?
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: 'andersom' on February 20, 2012, 04:25:35 PM
I read somewhee yesterday that Santorum was saying obama "encourages abortion" ? lol

I didn't read thru thr whole article and couldn't find the quote, and I know news headlines sensationalise things, but was that really what he was gettting at?
Santorum Nostalgic for Abortions "in the Shadows," Warns of Euthanasia Increase (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn-eejMcmuA#ws)



Here he also tells how dangerous it is to live in my country, when you are old.
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: Adam on February 20, 2012, 05:30:13 PM
LOL!!!!!!!!!

do you remebmer a couple years ago where loads of american politicans were whipping up hysteria about NHS-style heathcare btw?

one of them said soemthing along the lines of, if stephen hawking has been born in britain, he wouldn't be alive today, lol
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: "couldbecousin" on February 20, 2012, 05:51:39 PM
LOL!!!!!!!!!

do you remebmer a couple years ago where loads of american politicans were whipping up hysteria about NHS-style heathcare btw?

one of them said soemthing along the lines of, if stephen hawking has been born in britain, he wouldn't be alive today, lol

 Oh dear, how did I miss that golden moment?  :rofl:
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: Adam on February 20, 2012, 06:06:09 PM
ah just looked it up for you, and it wasnt a politician, it was a newspaper who said it:

"People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the UK, where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless,"

wouldnt br ssurprised if a lot of republicans would believe that too tho

stephen hawking himeslf then responded in a british newspaper:

"I wouldn't be here today if it were not for the NHS," he said. "I have received a large amount of high-quality treatment without which I would not have survived."
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: Callaway on February 20, 2012, 08:52:31 PM
ah just looked it up for you, and it wasnt a politician, it was a newspaper who said it:

"People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the UK, where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless,"


My guess is that they were talking about the QALY (http://www.nice.org.uk/newsroom/features/measuringeffectivenessandcosteffectivenesstheqaly.jsp), or Quality-Adjusted Life Year that your NHS uses, where adding a year to the life of a handicapped person is considered less valuable than adding a year to the life of a non-handicapped person and they don't want to spend more than £20000 or £30000 per QALY added.
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: 'andersom' on February 21, 2012, 05:03:45 AM
And, without NHS, or health-insurance for everyone, QALY is depending on income or financial resources of the patient?
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: Parts on February 21, 2012, 07:38:24 AM
 http://www.liveleak.com/e/f93_1329777755 (http://www.liveleak.com/e/f93_1329777755) 
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: Adam on February 21, 2012, 08:37:38 AM
My guess is that they were talking about the QALY (http://www.nice.org.uk/newsroom/features/measuringeffectivenessandcosteffectivenesstheqaly.jsp), or Quality-Adjusted Life Year that your NHS uses, where adding a year to the life of a handicapped person is considered less valuable than adding a year to the life of a non-handicapped person and they don't want to spend more than £20000 or £30000 per QALY added.

???

The newspaper was saying that Hawking would not have been given treatment on the NHS if he was in Britain. Clearly he was given that treatment. Of course the NHS cannot afford every single possible treatment - no country has unlimited resources. At least ours isn't dictated by how much money the patient has.

So I'm not really sure what youre getting at here. I don't see how this has anythig to do wit what he newspaper was claiming, as it was obviously fictitious bullshit
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: Callaway on February 21, 2012, 04:15:44 PM
And, without NHS, or health-insurance for everyone, QALY is depending on income or financial resources of the patient?

Good point.  In the US it would then depend on the person's own financial resources or on their insurance coverage.  If the person is poor enough, they can get Medicaid to cover their health care, but if they are too rich for Medicaid and too poor to afford private health insurance, they are often out of luck.  However, most drug manufacturers offer financial assistance in affording their medications to poorer people who lack prescription drug coverage.

I know that nobody has infinite resources and there has to be some cost constraint, but the QALY seems kind of cold-blooded to me since a year of a handicapped person's life is considered to be worth less than a year of the life of a person without a handicap.
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: midlifeaspie on February 21, 2012, 04:16:42 PM
I'm rooting for Ricky.  He has a plausible chance at winning the Republican nomination and zero chance at winning the general election.  It's all win/win for me  :zoinks:
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: 'andersom' on February 21, 2012, 04:27:15 PM
I'm rooting for Ricky.  He has a plausible chance at winning the Republican nomination and zero chance at winning the general election.  It's all win/win for me  :zoinks:

I like the optimistic way of your math.

That zero chance at winning the general election looks vital for me.
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: midlifeaspie on February 21, 2012, 05:19:10 PM
I'm rooting for Ricky.  He has a plausible chance at winning the Republican nomination and zero chance at winning the general election.  It's all win/win for me  :zoinks:

I like the optimistic way of your math.

That zero chance at winning the general election looks vital for me.

The Republicans using this contraceptive issue is hilarious.  93% of Catholic women use contraception.  They are all pandering to 7% of the population while scaring the crap out of the other 93%.  Gay marriage is now accepted by greater than 50% of the population.  70+% of the population thinks millionaires should pay more taxes.  They are coming down on the wrong side of every possible issue, and it will be a glorious and cleansing fire in November when they crash and burn.  The only chance they have is Romney who has flip-flopped on every position he ever held prior to running for president, and the only chance he has is if he flips back after securing the nomination.  Of course, then he has to run against himself and his inability to hold a belief that isn't pre-approved by poll numbers.
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: Parts on February 21, 2012, 07:34:33 PM
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“Satan has his sights on the United States of America!,” Santorum thundered to a Florida university crowd four years ago in a speech unearthed by the Drudge Report.

“The Father of Lies has his sights on what you would think the Father of Lies would have his sights on,” Santorum said. “[A] good, decent, powerful, influential country — the United States of America.”
   
Link (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election-2012/rick-santorum-2008-satan-sights-united-states-america-article-1.1026472?localLinksEnabled=false)


 :zombiefuck:  I agree with MLA but really what are the Republicans thinking

Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: Dexter Morgan on February 21, 2012, 11:34:21 PM
Rick Santorum Says Barack Obama Should be Pro-Life Because He is Black (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as2Z5K-eN4s#ws)
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: eris on February 21, 2012, 11:49:53 PM
:wanker: WTF is wrong with people? He should have never made it this far.




he is the governor of our state :(
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: eris on February 21, 2012, 11:51:24 PM
I'm rooting for Ricky.  He has a plausible chance at winning the Republican nomination and zero chance at winning the general election.  It's all win/win for me  :zoinks:

that is actually a good strategy

my father (a republican) registers democrat during primaries so he can vote for the weakest candidate.
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: Adam on February 22, 2012, 04:42:50 AM
what a stupid system.

and i thing the nhs is much less coldblooded than the US systm
Title: Re: Bayer Aspirin For Contraception
Post by: Parts on February 22, 2012, 08:33:44 AM
:wanker: WTF is wrong with people? He should have never made it this far.




he is the governor of our state :(

You must feel the same way I do about telling people I grew up in Florida, After awhile you get used to the shame :hahaha: