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Title: The American Empire
Post by: The Member Formerly Known As Sophist on April 29, 2006, 10:15:25 AM
This is a link to a downloadable speech by Prof. David Ray Griffin who is a theologian but has done a great deal of research on what might have really have gone on with 9/11 regarding the Bush administration. The speech is 1 hour 21 minutes and 46 seconds long so be patient. If you click the link it directly starts downloading (I recommend not clicking it if you're using dial-up unless you've got a few hours to spare). Don't click it if you don't want to immediately start downloading the speech.

Professor Griffin's speech (http://www.911blogger.com/2005/04/proper-release-of-griffin-in-madison.html)

Don't worry. This guy isn't a kook nor is he a religious fanatic. He actually makes sense.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: McGiver on May 01, 2006, 02:21:35 PM
i haven't heard it yet but i will offer my thoughts, in brief:

i think 9/11 happened for the sake of patriotism and a horrible presidential approval rating.
since the fall of the berlin wall america had lost its common enemy.  we tried china on for size, but they didn't fit.  so the world trade thing was perfect.
its bullshit politics and its brainwash.
then again, what isn't?
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: McGiver on May 01, 2006, 03:54:26 PM
this is spamming:

http://www.intensitysquared.com/index.php?topic=355.0
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Postperson on May 01, 2006, 07:01:51 PM
who cares.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: McGiver on May 01, 2006, 11:10:18 PM
Americans.

duh!  well at least we should care.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Happeh on May 02, 2006, 07:55:21 PM
9/11 was a plot by Israel. The world trade center changed hands for the first time in decades a few months before 9/11. It was bought by a Jewish man who then purchased a gigantic insurance policy for it. The man just collected 7 billion dollars or so from the insurance company I believe.

The jewish owner handed the keys to the WTC to the Mossad operatives who planted the explosives that demolished the building. All of this was done to start the Israeli operation for Israeli World Domination. With an attack on the USA, the USA could attack just about anyone and who was going to stop them?

The first place that needed to be attacked was Afghanistan. The Taliban had almost completely stopped opium production. This was really pissing off all the Americans, Europeans and Israelis who sold heroin. They needed to take Afghanistan back from the religious guys and start opium production again. They attacked Afghanistan and took it over. Opium production from Afghanistan is now at some of it's highest levels ever. First mission of Israeli World Domination accomplished.

Then Irag had to be attacked to stop Saddam Hussein from paying money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. The Israelis were losing. The Palestinians were winning thru a long series of suicide bombings that were turning public opinion in Israel against the ancient aliens. Everyone knows the lies made up about WMD to justify invading Iraq.

In addition to stopping Saddam Hussein from paying the families of suicide bombers, the Israelis have many other plans for Israeli World Domination that required the takeover of Iraq.

The Israelis needed to use the Kurds for attacks into the muslim countries of Turkey and Syria. Since the invasion of Iraq, Israeli troops are training Kurds in the north. These Kurds have staged terrorist attacks in both Syria and Turkey.

Owning Iraq is part of a ancient alien plot for something called "Greater Israel". Israeli World Domination means of course they dominate the world. They believe that Israel should be about the size of half of the Middle East. Parts of Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, etc. Now they own Iraq and they can use the Kurds to move on Syria and Turkey.

There is also the question of oil. Now that the Israelis own Iraq, there is an oil pipeline that I believe goes to Haifa. There have been plans to open this pipeline for some time. There is no way to know if it has already been opened or not of course. The Israelis and Americans assasinate all the western journalists they can. There is no real honest news coming out of Iraq since about a year or more ago.

9/11 was the trigger for the ancient aliens to begin the final stage of Israeli World Domination. All the rest of it is just details. If you want to know what happens next, the Israelis will finish killing or enslaving the muslim world. They have just about done this. Almost all the Muslims except for Iran are Israeli Collaborators. They sold out their countries for guarantees that they get the oil wealth and military support to keep them in power.

After the Israelis are finished with the muslims, the move on to the Asians. Israeli World Domination means White World Domination. No room for the coloreds. The USA has already been ordered to ring China with military bases. This plan is proceeding as you read. Pointed exchanges have been made between China and the US about exactly who will nuke what if there is a war.

Israel of course is egging both sides on. The Israelis in charge of the USA are pushing the military to confront China. Israel is also selling China top secret USA military technology. That way, when the USA attacks, the Chinese have the USA's own weapons to defend themselves with. That should lead to lots of casualties. Death in plain words. The thing the Israelis love most. Dead people who are not Israelis.

Look into history and you will find something very interesting. Many of the mass slaughters of the past were carried out by jewish people. The Russian slaughters in the Ukraine were carried out by Russian Jews. We all know about the slaughter in WWII. The Jewish people cry about how they were the victims. Look at the death statistics and see how many other people died. For some reason you never hear about that.

These days, it is almost as if WWII was about nothing but Germany killing jewish people. Germany and France, or Britain or Russia or the USA? Who cares about those dead guys. The only important dead people to the jewish controlled media is dead jewish people.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Lucifer on May 03, 2006, 12:37:25 AM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: duncvis on May 03, 2006, 04:06:30 AM
conspiracy theories are funny.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: McGiver on May 03, 2006, 05:35:48 AM
why the israelites?
why/how did they convince america and brittian to spend trillions on a war just for israel?

couldn't it bre possible that george bush bankrupt two thriving oil businesses when he was a private citizen and he owes people.  bush was just paying back a debt.
isn't that more probable
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: The Member Formerly Known As Sophist on May 03, 2006, 07:40:55 AM
Dude, people. Watch the speech. It won't sound like a conspiracy theory anymore. I've shunned away from that which one woud call "conspiracies", but this guy makes a lot of sense and he brings a lot of real evidence to the foreground. There's another video a friend told me about on 9/11 and goes into detail with pictures of the towers and how the buildings resembled having been demolished by detonators below ground at the foundation and not from planes hitting the upper towers.

Anybody surprised to know that the Bin Laden family and the Bush family have been long-time friends? Anybody also surprised to find that 9 of the 16 supposedly "dead" hijackers have been found alive and well working in other countries? Watch the video. This was Bush Administration through and through. It was just another Pearl Harbor. And since then Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld have been able to get anything they damn well pleased from Congress, especially with regards to the military. It was all a set-up. Money, greed, and power.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: McGiver on May 03, 2006, 08:21:42 AM
i agree.
its about stealing our personal liberties, oil and popularity rating
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Happeh on May 03, 2006, 09:04:21 AM
why the israelites?
why/how did they convince america and brittian to spend trillions on a war just for israel?

Control of the political and economic systems of both countries. There was no convincing. The Israelis gave the orders to the traitors in both countries and the traitors carried out their orders.

couldn't it bre possible that george bush bankrupt two thriving oil businesses when he was a private citizen and he owes people.? bush was just paying back a debt.
isn't that more probable

Not to me it isn't.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: McGiver on May 03, 2006, 09:22:13 AM
well argued.
i can see your point.
where do i sign up?
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Happeh on May 04, 2006, 10:41:50 AM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

Maybe you can help me out. What motivates victims?

People who are willing to read and think? We victimize people like you. We know that when it comes time to learn something, your brain will go to sleep. So we set ourselves up in politics and steal your pension. Or we become oil men and charge you $3.00 a gallon for gas.

After all. You are too tired to read about how we made 500% profits last year. You are too lazy to read that there is absolutley no logical reason for gas to be so expensive. We know you will never bother to read about how we paid millions to the politicians to let us charge anything we want for gas. Even if the proof that we bribe politicians is front page news like the Abramoff bribery scandal.

We know that because you are sleeping on the end of your leash like a good animal, you will pay whatever we charge for gas. The only thing you will do as we take what we want from you will be to say:

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: McGiver on May 04, 2006, 11:00:52 AM
Heppah, you sound alot like jello biafra.
that last post read like it could have been the words to a DK song.

now if you'll excuse me, i must let the bed bugs bite.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Lucifer on May 04, 2006, 02:42:29 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

Maybe you can help me out. What motivates victims?

People who are willing to read and think? We victimize people like you. We know that when it comes time to learn something, your brain will go to sleep. So we set ourselves up in politics and steal your pension. Or we become oil men and charge you $3.00 a gallon for gas.

After all. You are too tired to read about how we made 500% profits last year. You are too lazy to read that there is absolutley no logical reason for gas to be so expensive. We know you will never bother to read about how we paid millions to the politicians to let us charge anything we want for gas. Even if the proof that we bribe politicians is front page news like the Abramoff bribery scandal.

We know that because you are sleeping on the end of your leash like a good animal, you will pay whatever we charge for gas. The only thing you will do as we take what we want from you will be to say:

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ


happeh, you seem to have mistaken me for someone who gives a fuck about your daft theory.

anyway, you know nothing about me.  if you did, you could imagine what my response to all of the above would be, and you wouldn't have said it.  well, not unless you were particularly stupid, of course.

ah...
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Beowulf on May 04, 2006, 03:08:32 PM
Quote from: Happeh
The world trade center changed hands for the first time in decades a few months before 9/11. It was bought by a Jewish man who then purchased a gigantic insurance policy for it. The man just collected 7 billion dollars or so from the insurance company I believe.

Larry Silverstein.

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein#Dispute_with_Insurers)

"In January 2001, Silverstein via Silverstein Properties along with Westfield America made a $3.2 billion bid for a 99-year-lease for the World Trade Center.

...

September 11, 2001 attacks

When the attacks occured, Silverstein was at home debating with his wife about plans to move his headquarters to the 88th floor of the North Tower. His son Roger was at 7 World Trade Center but was not hurt. 7 World Trade Center is said to have caught fire when debris fell from the North Tower. The building collapsed shortly after 5 p.m. -- 8 hours after the attack.

Dispute with Insurers

As a private developer with a 99-year lease on the World Trade Center, Silverstein insured the property. Following the September 11, 2001 attacks, he sought payment for the destruction of the towers as two incidents. The two dozen insurers held that it was one incident. If it were considered to be a single incident, the payout would be $3.55 billion and if it were two incidents, it would be $7.1 billion. The actual rebuilding cost is estimated to be greater than $9 billion. Silverstein sued the insurers."

Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Happeh on May 05, 2006, 10:24:16 AM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

Maybe you can help me out. What motivates victims?

People who are willing to read and think? We victimize people like you. We know that when it comes time to learn something, your brain will go to sleep. So we set ourselves up in politics and steal your pension. Or we become oil men and charge you $3.00 a gallon for gas.

After all. You are too tired to read about how we made 500% profits last year. You are too lazy to read that there is absolutley no logical reason for gas to be so expensive. We know you will never bother to read about how we paid millions to the politicians to let us charge anything we want for gas. Even if the proof that we bribe politicians is front page news like the Abramoff bribery scandal.

We know that because you are sleeping on the end of your leash like a good animal, you will pay whatever we charge for gas. The only thing you will do as we take what we want from you will be to say:

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ


happeh, you seem to have mistaken me for someone who gives a fuck about your daft theory.


No. I took you for a troublemaker going out of his way to be rude to my post. There was no need for you to do that. You could have left the thread if you were not interested. But you went out of your way to make your denigrating post.

You walked up and punched me in the face for no reason. I punched you back.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Lucifer on May 05, 2006, 10:27:05 AM
was that a punch?

mine certainly wasn't.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Happeh on May 05, 2006, 10:37:07 AM
Quote from: Happeh
The world trade center changed hands for the first time in decades a few months before 9/11. It was bought by a Jewish man who then purchased a gigantic insurance policy for it. The man just collected 7 billion dollars or so from the insurance company I believe.

Larry Silverstein.

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein#Dispute_with_Insurers)

"In January 2001, Silverstein via Silverstein Properties along with Westfield America made a $3.2 billion bid for a 99-year-lease for the World Trade Center.

...

September 11, 2001 attacks

When the attacks occured, Silverstein was at home debating with his wife about plans to move his headquarters to the 88th floor of the North Tower. His son Roger was at 7 World Trade Center but was not hurt. 7 World Trade Center is said to have caught fire when debris fell from the North Tower. The building collapsed shortly after 5 p.m. -- 8 hours after the attack.

Dispute with Insurers

As a private developer with a 99-year lease on the World Trade Center, Silverstein insured the property. Following the September 11, 2001 attacks, he sought payment for the destruction of the towers as two incidents. The two dozen insurers held that it was one incident. If it were considered to be a single incident, the payout would be $3.55 billion and if it were two incidents, it would be $7.1 billion. The actual rebuilding cost is estimated to be greater than $9 billion. Silverstein sued the insurers."



I don't think you guys are smart enough or educated enough to handle me. I am kind of disappointed. I was looking forward to a challenge.

I said the WTC changed hands right before the attacks. It was given to silverstein so he could let the Mossad into the builiding to plant the demolition charges. You will find the other bidders for the property had "problems" that prevented them from winning the bid.

"Six months before the 9/11 attacks the World Trade Center was "privatized" by being leased to a private sector developer. The lease was purchased by the Silverstein Group for $3.2 billion. "This is a dream come true," Larry Silverstein said. "We will be in control of a prized asset, and we will seek to develop its potential, raising it to new heights."

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/silverstein.html

You might want to read the entire page to get an idea of how the world works.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Happeh on May 05, 2006, 10:39:40 AM
was that a punch?

mine certainly wasn't.

I see. Do you frequently go up to people who are talking about something, stand in front of the audience the person is talking to, and loudly say

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

As if you are ridiculing, making fun of, or humiliating the person, or what the person is saying?

In my life expereince, when a person does that, they usually start smirking like they just did something rude to someone else. Maybe people act differently where you live?
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Lucifer on May 05, 2006, 11:02:33 AM
procrastination, as usual.

say something i consider worth answering, then.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Beowulf on May 05, 2006, 11:20:15 AM
Quote from: Happeh
The world trade center changed hands for the first time in decades a few months before 9/11. It was bought by a Jewish man who then purchased a gigantic insurance policy for it. The man just collected 7 billion dollars or so from the insurance company I believe.

Larry Silverstein.

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein#Dispute_with_Insurers)

"In January 2001, Silverstein via Silverstein Properties along with Westfield America made a $3.2 billion bid for a 99-year-lease for the World Trade Center.

...

September 11, 2001 attacks

When the attacks occured, Silverstein was at home debating with his wife about plans to move his headquarters to the 88th floor of the North Tower. His son Roger was at 7 World Trade Center but was not hurt. 7 World Trade Center is said to have caught fire when debris fell from the North Tower. The building collapsed shortly after 5 p.m. -- 8 hours after the attack.

Dispute with Insurers

As a private developer with a 99-year lease on the World Trade Center, Silverstein insured the property. Following the September 11, 2001 attacks, he sought payment for the destruction of the towers as two incidents. The two dozen insurers held that it was one incident. If it were considered to be a single incident, the payout would be $3.55 billion and if it were two incidents, it would be $7.1 billion. The actual rebuilding cost is estimated to be greater than $9 billion. Silverstein sued the insurers."



I don't think you guys are smart enough or educated enough to handle me. I am kind of disappointed. I was looking forward to a challenge.

I said the WTC changed hands right before the attacks.

And I was just naming the Jewish man you were referring to for confirmation purposes.

It seems like you see such actions as an insult to your authority. Maybe your being banned from so many message boards has contributed to your defensive attitude.

Or maybe you just don't want people agreeing with you. After all, you say you want to be challenged.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Eamonn on May 06, 2006, 08:35:54 AM
http://www.filecabi.net/video/huntingdejew.html
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Happeh on May 06, 2006, 05:41:21 PM


And I was just naming the Jewish man you were referring to for confirmation purposes.

It seems like you see such actions as an insult to your authority. Maybe your being banned from so many message boards has contributed to your defensive attitude.

Or maybe you just don't want people agreeing with you. After all, you say you want to be challenged.

huh?
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Beowulf on May 06, 2006, 06:38:25 PM
Let me tell you something about how the world works, Happeh.

Below I reproduce some information from a book by the UFO expert, Karl T Pflock (Click here (http://www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/ufopfloc.htm)).

Quote
? several times during the Sixties and Seventies, thousands of South Americans would witness numerous fireballs falling out of the sky. Immediately afterwards, stories of contacts with aliens would spring up everywhere.

In the preface to Pflock's book, best-selling science fiction novelist Jerry Pournelle, who held various hush-hush jobs in the military-industrial-intelligence complex during the Sixties, says the fireballs were very real. The Soviets conducted numerous tests of a secret Fractional Orbital Bombardment System that could deliver a nuclear attack on the U.S. from the south, where we had no Early Warning System. Sometimes the dummy warheads came down on Peru or Chile.

The alien stories, however, were Soviet KGB disinformation. According to Pournelle, the Kremlin didn't want to admit it was building the capability of launching a Pearl Harbor-style sneak attack on the U.S. So, it planted stories about extra-terrestrials. These ludicrous accounts muddied the waters, making the witnesses to the actual fireballs seem slightly delusional as well.

Meanwhile, the CIA knew all about the Soviet tests, but didn't want the Russians to know it knew. So, our government never exposed the Communists' little green men hoaxes.

What does this have to do with anything?

Well, this is not the 1960s. This is the age of the internet. One can find plenty of information online about the 9/11 Israeli conspiracy. It's impossible to censor every website. But people can be labelled as cranks.

This is where people like you come in. You are deliberately closing people's minds with your aggressive demeanour. I put it to you that you are an agent of AIPAC (http://www.aipac.org/). Of course, you will deny it.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Happeh on May 07, 2006, 12:34:56 AM
Let me tell you something about how the world works, Happeh.

Below I reproduce some information from a book by the UFO expert, Karl T Pflock (Click here (http://www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/ufopfloc.htm)).

Quote
? several times during the Sixties and Seventies, thousands of South Americans would witness numerous fireballs falling out of the sky. Immediately afterwards, stories of contacts with aliens would spring up everywhere.

In the preface to Pflock's book, best-selling science fiction novelist Jerry Pournelle, who held various hush-hush jobs in the military-industrial-intelligence complex during the Sixties, says the fireballs were very real. The Soviets conducted numerous tests of a secret Fractional Orbital Bombardment System that could deliver a nuclear attack on the U.S. from the south, where we had no Early Warning System. Sometimes the dummy warheads came down on Peru or Chile.

The alien stories, however, were Soviet KGB disinformation. According to Pournelle, the Kremlin didn't want to admit it was building the capability of launching a Pearl Harbor-style sneak attack on the U.S. So, it planted stories about extra-terrestrials. These ludicrous accounts muddied the waters, making the witnesses to the actual fireballs seem slightly delusional as well.

Meanwhile, the CIA knew all about the Soviet tests, but didn't want the Russians to know it knew. So, our government never exposed the Communists' little green men hoaxes.

What does this have to do with anything?

Well, this is not the 1960s. This is the age of the internet. One can find plenty of information online about the 9/11 Israeli conspiracy. It's impossible to censor every website. But people can be labelled as cranks.

This is where people like you come in. You are deliberately closing people's minds with your aggressive demeanour. I put it to you that you are an agent of AIPAC (http://www.aipac.org/). Of course, you will deny it.


Ok. I will be your foil.

Huh?
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Beowulf on May 08, 2006, 05:21:32 AM

Ok. I will be your foil.

Huh?

Huh?

Look, I've seen people like you on the net before. People who post on message boards 24/7. One would almost think they were being paid.

Would you even know if this were not the case, in effect, with yourself?

I know of people who have had their computers confiscated by the authorities. Ask yourself why you still have yours.

I'll tell you why. Because you're just a pawn.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Happeh on May 08, 2006, 05:07:47 PM

Ok. I will be your foil.

Huh?

Huh?

Look, I've seen people like you on the net before. People who post on message boards 24/7. One would almost think they were being paid.

Huh? Are you taking medication? I find it difficult to come here and post because there is no stimulation. What is this 24/7 posting stuff?

I think you have confused me with someone else.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Praetor on May 09, 2006, 09:48:25 AM
I love ancient alien conspiracy theories cause true or false its a win win situation either way.

Im a firm believer that truth is stranger then fiction. And probably alot more straight to the point then these ancient alien conspiracies that i switch off after a paragraph because suddenly that creeping propaganda from the 1920's and 30's starts coming back from the Nazi propaganda machine again. But saying theres disputed evidence that some jewish types gave them the material in order to justify expelling jewish people to the British colonial holding of palestine at the time. But hey thats another conspiracy theory.

Bring on the jew bashing cause we all laugh over this shit in the pubs n cafes of golders green anyway
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Callaway on May 09, 2006, 10:36:49 AM

Huh? Are you taking medication? I find it difficult to come here and post because there is no stimulation. What is this 24/7 posting stuff?

I think you have confused me with someone else.

Are you taking medication, Happeh? 

You call it Happeh's Theory, but I do not think you even understand what a scientific theory is. 

Below is a generalized sequence of steps taken to establish a scientific theory:

   1. Choose and define the natural phenomenon that you want to figure out and explain.

   2. Collect information (data) about this phenomena by going where the phenomena occur and making observations.  Or, try to replicate this phenomena by means of a test (experiment) under controlled conditions (usually in a laboratory) that eliminates interference's from environmental conditions.

   3. After collecting a lot of data, look for patterns in the data.   Attempt to explain these patterns by making a provisional explanation, called a hypothesis.

   4. Test the hypothesis by collecting more data to see if the hypothesis continues to show the assumed pattern.  If the data does not support the hypothesis, it must be changed, or rejected in favor of a better one.  In collecting data, one must NOT ignore data that contradicts the hypothesis in favor of only supportive data. 

   5. If a refined hypothesis survives all attacks on it and is the best existing explanation for a particular phenomenon, it is then elevated to the status of a theory.

   6. A theory is subject to modification and even rejection if there is overwhelming evidence that disproves it and/or supports another, better theory.   Therefore, a theory is not an eternal or perpetual truth.

Is this the process through which you refined Happeh's Theory?  No, it is not.  You have looked at some photographs of people, drawn lines on them and made unfounded assumptions about them, based on those photographs.  You have not yet done enough real research to even justify calling it Happeh's Hypothesis.  At the very least, you would have to interview these people who are the subjects of your  photographs, attempt to determine how often they masturbate and correlate this information with their posture, (or eyesight or physical fitness) which you would need more than a single photograph to determine.  Then you could propose a hypothesis about frequency of masturbation and posture.  Then you would need to collect more data to see whether or not your hypothesis is confirmed.  Then, if it is the best explanation for the data you have collected, you would be justified in calling it a theory.

You were asked for evidence and you did not mention ever having done that.  Did you ever do that?
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Happeh on May 09, 2006, 08:13:54 PM
I love ancient alien conspiracy theories cause true or false its a win win situation either way.

Im a firm believer that truth is stranger then fiction. And probably alot more straight to the point then these ancient alien conspiracies that i switch off after a paragraph because suddenly that creeping propaganda from the 1920's and 30's starts coming back from the Nazi propaganda machine again.

So you believe that repeating factual material is propaganda?

What you fail to address is the idea that the Nazi's were not spewing propaganda. That they were in fact telling the truth. Jewish people do work to enslave the goyim in order to dominate the world. It was the truth then. It is the truth now.

It is a pity that people feel repeating the truth is so boring they must leave.

But saying theres disputed evidence that some jewish types gave them the material in order to justify expelling jewish people to the British colonial holding of palestine at the time. But hey thats another conspiracy theory.

Bring on the jew bashing cause we all laugh over this shit in the pubs n cafes of golders green anyway

Really? I heard the British authorities did not tolerate anyone speaking poorly of the masters. Aren't they letting David Irving, a British Citizen, rot in an Austrian jail because he insulted the masters? You might want to think about that. When the going gets rough, your countrymen would throw you to the dogs in a minute on the masters orders.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Happeh on May 09, 2006, 08:21:22 PM

Is this the process through which you refined Happeh's Theory?? No, it is not.

Theory is just a word I tacked on for poor feeble minded scientific types. If they hear the word "theory", it makes them feel better. I don't really care what label you apply to my discoveries.

? You have looked at some photographs of people, drawn lines on them and made unfounded assumptions about them, based on those photographs.? You have not yet done enough real research to even justify calling it Happeh's Hypothesis.

Do I know you? Have I spoken to you? At all? If not, then how is it you know so factually what it is that I have and have not done? You are just making things up.

? At the very least, you would have to interview these people who are the subjects of your? photographs, attempt to determine how often they masturbate and correlate this information with their posture, (or eyesight or physical fitness) which you would need more than a single photograph to determine.?.

Why? Why do I have to ask them anything? I don't need convincing. I know exactly what I know. It is you that does not believe. If it bothers you, you should go talk to those people.

If you have some common sense though, you will realize it is a waste of time. People will not talk to strangers about masturbation or their habits. It is embarrassing and shameful. If they did talk to you, they would lie. That is how people are. They are too weak to take responsibility for their actions so they blind themselves to it and lie to themselves about it.

Then you could propose a hypothesis about frequency of masturbation and posture.? Then you would need to collect more data to see whether or not your hypothesis is confirmed.? Then, if it is the best explanation for the data you have collected, you would be justified in calling it a theory.

You were asked for evidence and you did not mention ever having done that.? Did you ever do that?

I have gone around this question a million times. What I post IS evidence. The problem is, you and everybody else are not qualified to realize it is evidence. You think because you do not see anything, I must be wrong. You and everybody else refuse to consider that you do not see anything because you can't. You do not have the necessary skill or experience.

I can post hundreds of pictures to prove what I say. You and everybody else needs to look at all of those pictures until you begin to see the connecting threads. You will see that they all have similar problems. But it will take time and hundreds of pictures and me talking about it.

That never happens because most people have enough patience to view 5 pictures. Then they have decided they can make a judgement based on that and move on. What can I do?
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Happeh on May 10, 2006, 08:23:04 AM
But saying theres disputed evidence that some jewish types gave them the material in order to justify expelling jewish people to the British colonial holding of palestine at the time. But hey thats another conspiracy theory.

Bring on the jew bashing cause we all laugh over this shit in the pubs n cafes of golders green anyway

Really? I heard the British authorities did not tolerate anyone speaking poorly of the masters. Aren't they letting David Irving, a British Citizen, rot in an Austrian jail because he insulted the masters? You might want to think about that. When the going gets rough, your countrymen would throw you to the dogs in a minute on the masters orders.

See Praetorian? Your government will turn you over to anyone that wants you.

UK Hacker to Be Extradited Over US Military Files (Update1)

A British computer hacker accused of deleting critical U.S. military files around the time of the Sept. 11 attacks should be extradited to Virginia to face computer and fraud charges, a London judge ruled today.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000085&sid=aukQ7V53ffj8&refer=europe

Letting David Irving rot in an Austrian jail. Sending British citizens to the USA for torture and jail.The British men who are in Guantanamo. Your government will turn you over to anyone that wants you. Doesn't matter if you are not a drug dealer or a murderer. They will turn you over for stealing bubblegum if the masters order it.

Is that another one of those boring facts that makes you walk away?
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Beowulf on May 11, 2006, 05:57:30 PM
I love ancient alien conspiracy theories cause true or false its a win win situation either way.

Im a firm believer that truth is stranger then fiction. And probably alot more straight to the point then these ancient alien conspiracies that i switch off after a paragraph because suddenly that creeping propaganda from the 1920's and 30's starts coming back from the Nazi propaganda machine again. But saying theres disputed evidence that some jewish types gave them the material in order to justify expelling jewish people to the British colonial holding of palestine at the time. But hey thats another conspiracy theory.

Bring on the jew bashing cause we all laugh over this shit in the pubs n cafes of golders green anyway

A degree of collaboration between the ancient aliens and the Nazis would make sense; the ancient aliens wanted a homeland for the Jews, and the Nazis wanted the Jews out of Germany.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Eamonn on May 12, 2006, 01:48:50 PM
It was evil Bert wot did it!

(http://www.bertisevil.tv/img/bazooka-bert.jpg)
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Happeh on May 13, 2006, 08:39:28 AM
I love ancient alien conspiracy theories cause true or false its a win win situation either way.

Im a firm believer that truth is stranger then fiction. And probably alot more straight to the point then these ancient alien conspiracies that i switch off after a paragraph because suddenly that creeping propaganda from the 1920's and 30's starts coming back from the Nazi propaganda machine again. But saying theres disputed evidence that some jewish types gave them the material in order to justify expelling jewish people to the British colonial holding of palestine at the time. But hey thats another conspiracy theory.

Bring on the jew bashing cause we all laugh over this shit in the pubs n cafes of golders green anyway

A degree of collaboration between the ancient aliens and the Nazis would make sense; the ancient aliens wanted a homeland for the Jews, and the Nazis wanted the Jews out of Germany.

This is why talking to the uninformed is frustrating. There is no "it makes sense they would collaborate". If you do some research, you will find stories about how the ancient aliens wanted the germans to kill jews so the jews would leave Europe for Israel. Israel had no population. Who would leave Europe to go live in the desert?

Unless they had to because people were killing them?
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Happeh on May 13, 2006, 08:43:29 AM

Ok. I will be your foil.

Huh?

Huh?

Look, I've seen people like you on the net before. People who post on message boards 24/7. One would almost think they were being paid.

Would you even know if this were not the case, in effect, with yourself?

I know of people who have had their computers confiscated by the authorities. Ask yourself why you still have yours.

I'll tell you why. Because you're just a pawn.

I am just a pawn? You are so foolish I bet you never even heard of "The Lobby". You better read this article quick. The Israelis have already succeeded in moving it to page 3 or 4 in google search results. Another few weeks and it will be like the paper was never published.

Read about how YOU are the one that is a pawn. You work for Israel, whether you know it or not.

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Lucifer on May 13, 2006, 10:19:49 AM
can i be a prawn too, please?
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Beowulf on May 13, 2006, 11:38:58 AM

This is why talking to the uninformed is frustrating.

If your posts are to be taken at face value, then you have made ?talking to the uninformed? your mission in life, so why get frustrated? Be more like Jesus.


You are so foolish I bet you never even heard of "The Lobby". You better read this article quick. The Israelis have already succeeded in moving it to page 3 or 4 in google search results. Another few weeks and it will be like the paper was never published.

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html

The famous Mearsheimer-Walt paper: what a discovery on your part. Yes, I?ve heard of ?The Lobby?. Typing ?Mearsheimer Walt? into Google UK gives that same website as its first search result. Sadly, I doubt your endorsement of the paper will inspire many people to approach it with an open mind.

You work for Israel, whether you know it or not.


No I don't. You do.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Happeh on May 14, 2006, 11:25:07 PM

This is why talking to the uninformed is frustrating.

If your posts are to be taken at face value, then you have made ?talking to the uninformed? your mission in life, so why get frustrated? Be more like Jesus.


You are so foolish I bet you never even heard of "The Lobby". You better read this article quick. The Israelis have already succeeded in moving it to page 3 or 4 in google search results. Another few weeks and it will be like the paper was never published.

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html

The famous Mearsheimer-Walt paper: what a discovery on your part. Yes, I?ve heard of ?The Lobby?. Typing ?Mearsheimer Walt? into Google UK gives that same website as its first search result. Sadly, I doubt your endorsement of the paper will inspire many people to approach it with an open mind.

You work for Israel, whether you know it or not.


No I don't. You do.


pathetic. boring. Yawn.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Beowulf on May 15, 2006, 02:08:24 AM

pathetic. boring. Yawn.

I bet Buddha never spoke to anyone like that.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Happeh on May 15, 2006, 08:53:15 AM

pathetic. boring. Yawn.

I bet Buddha never spoke to anyone like that.

Who told you I was Buddha? If you think I am the Dalai Lama or something, you are in for a big surprise. I am just some guy trying to get by. I do the best I can. I have not yet reached the stage where I can deal with losers and react only by smiling beautifically.

It is really kind of humorous. You think those guys are better because they do not say anything. They are not better. They just gave up on you and people like you. Instead of saying things to try to push people the way I do, they have enough life experience to know it is a waste of time. So they listen to people like you, nod and smile, and you walk away thinking they are the greatest. And they are thinking, "Geez, I thought that loser would never leave".

Think about that the next time you meet a smiling relgious guy. Is he smiling because he is wonderful? Or is he smiling because that is the only healthy way to deal with losers and stupids?
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: CuriousPrimate on May 15, 2006, 10:05:32 AM
 :)
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Eamonn on May 15, 2006, 10:38:07 AM
:)

Got the smile off to a tee, Curious. Ghandi had a yellow head and a baldy napper too.
Title: Re: The American Empire
Post by: Praetor on May 27, 2006, 02:19:15 PM
I love ancient alien conspiracy theories cause true or false its a win win situation either way.

Im a firm believer that truth is stranger then fiction. And probably alot more straight to the point then these ancient alien conspiracies that i switch off after a paragraph because suddenly that creeping propaganda from the 1920's and 30's starts coming back from the Nazi propaganda machine again. But saying theres disputed evidence that some jewish types gave them the material in order to justify expelling jewish people to the British colonial holding of palestine at the time. But hey thats another conspiracy theory.

Bring on the jew bashing cause we all laugh over this shit in the pubs n cafes of golders green anyway

A degree of collaboration between the ancient aliens and the Nazis would make sense; the ancient aliens wanted a homeland for the Jews, and the Nazis wanted the Jews out of Germany.

Indeed and this is not hidden knowledge its all out there for people to find. Conspiracy my arse