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https://www.psychopathfree.com/articles/10-warning-signs-of-word-salad.147/
10 Warning Signs of Word Salad
When they’re feeling threatened or bored, psychopaths will often use what’s called “word salad” as an attempt to regain control over you.
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When they’re feeling threatened or bored, psychopaths will often use what’s called “word salad” in an attempt to keep your mind occupied. Basically, it’s a conversation from hell. They aren’t actually saying anything at all. They’re just talking at you. Before you can even respond to one outrageous statement, they’re already on to the next. You’ll be left with your head spinning. Study the warning signs, and disengage before any damage can be done:
1. Circular conversations
You’ll think you worked something out, only to begin discussing it again in two minutes. And it’s as if you never even said a word the first time around. They begin reciting all of the same tired garbage, ignoring any legitimate arguments you may have provided moments ago. If something is going to be resolved, it will be on their terms. With psychopaths, the same issues will come up over and over again—why are they so friendly with their ex again? Why are they suddenly not paying any attention to you? Why do they sound so eager to get off the phone? And every time you bring up these issues, it’s as if you never even had the argument in the past. You get sucked back in, only to feel crazy & high-maintenance when they decide “I’m sick of always arguing about this.” It’s a merry-go-round.
2. Bringing up your past wrongdoings & ignoring their own
If you point out something nasty they're doing—like ignoring you or cheating—they’ll mention something totally unrelated from the past that you’ve done wrong. Did you used to drink too much? Well then, their cheating isn’t really all that bad compared to your drinking problem. Were you late to your first date two years ago? Well then, you can’t complain about them ignoring you for three days straight. And God forbid you bring up any of their wrongdoings. Then, you are a bitter lunatic with a list of grievances.
3. Condescending & patronizing tone
The entire conversation will have this calm, cool demeanor. It’s almost as if they’re mocking you, gaging your reactions to see how much further they can push. When you finally react emotionally, that’s when they’ll tell you to calm down, raise their eyebrows, smirk, or feign disappointment. The whole point of word salad is to make you unhinged, and therefore give them the upper hand. Because remember, conversations are competitions—just like anything else with a psychopath.
4. Accusing you of doing things that they themselves are doing
I mentioned this in the previous section about psychopaths putting you on the defense. In heated arguments, psychopaths have no shame. They will begin labeling you with their own horrible qualities. It goes beyond projection, because most people project unknowingly. Psychopaths know they are smearing you with their own flaws, and they are seeking a reaction. After all, how can you not react to such blatant hypocrisy?
5. Multiple personas
Through the course of a word salad conversation, you’re likely to experience a variety of their personalities. It’s sort of like good cop, bad cop, demented cop, stalker cop, scary cop, baby cop. If you’re pulling away, sick of their abuse and lies, they will restore a glimpse of the idealize phase. A little torture to lure you back in with promises of marriage and children. If that doesn’t work, suddenly they’ll start insulting the things they once idealized. You’ll be left wondering who you’re even talking to, because his personas are imploding as they struggle to regain control. Our beloved administrator, Victoria, summed this up perfectly: “The devil himself was unleashed in a desperate fit of fury after being recognized: twisting, turning, writhing, spewing, flattering, sparkling, vomiting.”
6. The eternal victim
Somehow their cheating and lying will always lead back to a conversation about their abusive past or a crazy ex. You will end up feeling bad for them, even when they've done something horribly wrong. You will instead use it as an opportunity to bond with them over their supposed complex feelings. And once they have successfully averted your attention elsewhere, everything will go back to the way it was. No bonding or deep spiritual connection whatsoever. Psychopaths cry “abuse”—but in the end, you are the one left with nothing.
7. You begin explaining basic human emotions
You find yourself explaining things like “empathy” and “feelings” and “being nice”. Normal adults do not need to be taught the golden rules from kindergarten. You are not the first person who has attempted to see the good in them, and you will not be the last. You think to yourself, “if they can just understand why I’m hurt, then they’ll stop doing it.” But they won’t. They wouldn’t have done it in the first place if they were a decent human being. The worst part is, they pretended to be decent when you first met—sucking you in with this sweet, caring persona. They know how to be kind & good, but they find it boring.
8. Excuses
Everyone messes up every now and then, but psychopaths recite excuses more often than they actually follow through with promises. Their actions never match up with their words. You are disappointed so frequently that you feel relieved when they do something decent—they condition you to become grateful for the mediocre.
9. “What in the world just happened”
These conversations leave you drained. You will be left with an actual headache. You will spend hours, even days, obsessing over the argument. You’ll feel as if you exhausted all of your emotional energy to accomplish absolutely nothing. You will have a million pre-planned arguments in your head, ready to respond to all the unaddressed points that you couldn’t keep up with. You will feel the need to defend yourself. You’ll try to come up with a diplomatic solution that evenly distributes the blame, and therefore gives you both a chance to apologize and make up. But in the end, you’ll find that you’re the only one apologizing.
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http://www.thriveafterabuse.com/word-salad-narc-speak/
Double Whoah
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https://thoughtcatalog.com/shahida-arabi/2016/06/20-diversion-tactics-highly-manipulative-narcissists-sociopaths-and-psychopaths-use-to-silence-you/3/
OMG OMG OMG this is getting too weird.
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I read the first one laughing. I thought Scrap had posted it and it was levelled at Odeon. Now I see it is you and I figure it was for Scrap or I.
So I read through the next two and took notes. I will better understand Odeon. It is interesting.
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That'll be 3 and 4 then.
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That'll be 3 and 4 then.
No I find he is more 1,2,3.4 and 8. Some of the other ones are not THAT pronounced perhaps for me to pick up on them.
What I find very interesting from detached viewing is seeing how Odeon reframes and cycles through narratives trying to find purchase. There seems to not be any that he is strongly attached to. Truth is not as optimal as distancing himself from whatever shitfest or fucked behaviour.
You think are taking notes on this, because I saw how you tried to dismiss Odeon referencing my daughter specifically to call me imply a lack of fatherly values for not.....agreeing with him that a middle-aged man, Scrap likes underdeveloped boobs, despite the fact that he is both the most prolific poster of boobs and they all are large and often "over-developed" AND both did not raise an eyebrow with HIM calling ME a cunt BUT saw fit to condemn ME for throwing a similar nasty insult at him calling him a mother fucker.
Make no mistake, YOU, I, and everyone here knows that being called a Mother fucker is not a term of endearment. It is an insult. Cunt too, rates equally as nastily. But everyone here ALSO knows that being called a mother fucker is not saying "I honestly believe that you engage in sexual relations with your mother". It is just something vile to say to someone. The verbal equivalent as spitting on someone. Like calling someone a cunt. It makes no argument. It asks no deeper insight. It does not is not a position of any merit. It is just something nasty and horrible to spit in someone's face. Just like I do to you, you Goofy mother fucker.
You will have a good teacher in Odeon.
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That's a lot of words to say... fuck all of any value or merit. I wonder if anyone read it?
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That's a lot of words to say... fuck all of any value or merit. I wonder if anyone read it?
So you DID read or not? How much "value" or "merit" do you think you hold? How much weight do I put on your opinion? Make no mistake, you goofy mother fucker, that I will still put copious amounts of shit on you because I think you deserve it, but seriously understand I do not know or care if you read it or not.
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Poor Al. If his brain was a tenth of the size of his butthurt, he'd work for NASA.
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That's a lot of words to say... fuck all of any value or merit. I wonder if anyone read it?
I read it all, but could not find one point that most above average people who have experienced the internet for a few months have not already worked out for themselves.
I have seen some of the internet over a few months.
Thanks for posting, though; keep it up!
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That's a lot of words to say... fuck all of any value or merit. I wonder if anyone read it?
Not I. :laugh:
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I'd like to thank Al for adding value to the thread by posting such an excellent example of narcissistic word salad in response to a thread about... narcissistic word salad.
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Not at all.
You simply don't wish to engage. Given your own animosity to me (not undeserved) and the fact that you and Icequeen are short skirt wearing, pom pom waving cheerleaders of team Odeon, of course what you are saying is instantly suspect.
But then you are a stupid little collectivist because you hanged yourself with your own intellectual dishonesty.
You can not state as a fact that I have written a word salad or transgressed such word salad guidelines if , as you say, you did not read what I said, Goofy Mother fucker
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Tried to read what you wrote. It made no fucking sense.
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I don't believe they are suffering from a narcissistic personality disorder as the crap is too consistent to be a word salad. No, they are suffering from themselves.
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Tried to read what you wrote. It made no fucking sense.
Glad it's just not me.
Wonder how much longer it will be until he calls in the flying monkeys? :apondering:
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I blame my word salads on cloud seeding. :zoinks:
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Tried to read what you wrote. It made no fucking sense.
Glad it's just not me.
Wonder how much longer it will be until he calls in the flying monkeys? :apondering:
Speaking about making no fucking sense. Flying minkeys? Does this dumb reckneck have a clue she is typing or is this prose simply a stream of consciousness.
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And....?
Follow this thought process through and apply it to the current situation without biase and squeezing selective fact to fit a preconceived narrative and see where you get.
I do not think you can be honest and nonpartisan enough.to try
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:pwned:
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I also enjoy fertilising the clouds, does that make me a flying fuck?
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I also enjoy fertilising the clouds, does that make me a flying fuck?
McDangly, you're making too much sense now.
You've got a professional word-salad-generator to compete with. You're going to have to work harder.
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I also enjoy fertilising the clouds, does that make me a flying fuck?
McDangly, you're making too much sense now.
You've got a professional word-salad-generator to compete with. You're going to have to work harder.
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Not at all.
You simply don't wish to engage. Given your own animosity to me (not undeserved) and the fact that you and Icequeen are short skirt wearing, pom pom waving cheerleaders of team Odeon, of course what you are saying is instantly suspect.
But then you are a stupid little collectivist because you hanged yourself with your own intellectual dishonesty.
You can not state as a fact that I have written a word salad or transgressed such word salad guidelines if , as you say, you did not read what I said, Goofy Mother fucker
Okay you three fuckwits. Gather close. This should be a simple exercise for you. YOU get to either:
a) Ignore
b) Deflect/distract
c) Answer the question
YOU three have tried desperately to drive a narrative of "Word Salad" this is not the first narrative that has been pushed nor going to be the last. I will tell you why. The Narrative sounds impressive because it cite to an authority and you can then interpret the claims however you like.
However this is fairly simple an exercise because YOU guys have a few VERY simple questions to 1) answer honestly and show my claims false. If you can't do this then youare not looking at a word salad and your narrative faceplants. 2) you get to make a case after the fact, for me meeting ANY word salad guideline WITHOUT me being able to point to the same behaviour shown to me. (ie do not even bother with "you were being condescending if I can likely show numerous examples in teh last 24-36 hours of you all doing the same). So with that in mind I want you to see how you do. If you are struggling or choose to ignore (or pretend you can't comprehend) then we know exactly where you stand.
Did he or did he not question whether Scrap's preferred breast size was small (underdeveloped) or not?
Who has been the most prolific poster of naked women on here?
What breast size have these women generally been?
What precisely did I say that runs contrary to the above?
What did Odeon say that runs contrary to the above?
What about these self-evident facts needs my perspective as a Father?
What of these self-evident facts do I need my love of my daughter consulted on, and what position ought I therefore take that is NOT contrary to these self-evident facts?
Which of any of these points is me gaslighting?
Which of any of the statements I made gaslighting?
Oh and to help you losers out here is the "standard" of word salad:
1. Circular conversations
2. Bringing up your past wrongdoings & ignoring their own
3. Condescending & patronizing tone
4. Accusing you of doing things that they themselves are doing
5. Multiple personas
6. The eternal victim
7. You begin explaining basic human emotions
8. Excuses
9. “What in the world just happened”
Also just to further help, pushing me as playing the eternal victim will not help either as I am pretty decent at admitting that I am not a lovely person. Not the most recent example but certainly relevant:
To be very clear, I know you have called me a cunt over and over and the truth is I am and I will not just drop this and you bought this on yourself. It was unnecessary and it was for unnecessary reasons.
There ARE others and I CAN find some more too so you will have a hard barrow to push with the "Eternal Victim" guideline.
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Someone pass the ranch please. :rofl:
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Someone pass the ranch please. :rofl:
One down. Two more losers to show their hands
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Lol, the shithead admitted he is a cunt. If you want to build a psychological wall around yourself, go ahead. It's your prison.
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Lol, the shithead admitted he is a cunt. If you want to build a psychological wall around yourself, go ahead. It's your prison.
You mean nothing to me, mate
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I agree, I'm you best fwend. Lol
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I agree, I'm you best fwend. Lol
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Al,
Salad is fine and all, but it's still not good in huge quantities. You're not quite as bad as Lestat
at this, but can't you try and keep your point succinct?
I guess it's better than Odeon's repetitive non-engagement posts, but I feel that you may actually
have something to say - it's just that it's not worth struggling through all those words, and still
come up empty.
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Lestat can certainly post some word salad but the last thing that it is, is narcissistic.
There's actually a term for what Lestat does and it's called Nerd gassing.
He simply has an autistic fascination with certain topics and can post a lot of detailed information about them, along with some long winded strings of adjectives.
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Al,
Salad is fine and all, but it's still not good in huge quantities. You're not quite as bad as Lestat
at this, but can't you try and keep your point succinct?
I guess it's better than Odeon's repetitive non-engagement posts, but I feel that you may actually
have something to say - it's just that it's not worth struggling through all those words, and still
come up empty.
Certainly do. Unfortunately I guess for you, you have come in rather late to the party and sketching it out possibly will mean dropping a lot of pertinent information and even whilst doing so will probably still come across as long-winded
So bare bones basic (disregarding a lot of back and forth and nuance and such).
Odeon has a problem (more than a few). Odeon likes the rough and tumble of the playground as a member but also like leaning on his Admin tools heavily when he gets blowback. He will start shit, get shit back not admit his part in things. He will obfuscate, make false equivalencies, lie, project, misdirect, spam, misrepresent, threat, abuse the admin panel, and so on.
In essence he is a cowardly little bitch.
So there was a member called Zegh. You may remember him. Scandinavian stoner who smoked weed, drew dinosaurs and talked up what a badass troll he was. He used to like starting shit and saying nasty shit about people to get a rise out of them. He tried it with me, using my ex-wife. We started a feud which he initially thought was fun. Initially. After a long time, Odeon jumped in, having let it go for a while and decided to jump fairly on me and with some bullshit narratives. I had both of them now and occasionally others.
Fair, you have to back yourself here so fine. Zegh ended up melting down at Scrap and leaving. Things did not stop with Odeon. Odeon was being Odeon (See above). Another undesirable trait of Odeon's (I did say there were many) is that he is one of these moral virtue signalling Progressives. You cannot say ANYTHING that could somehow be in any way tangentially connected to his ideologically puritan narratives. An example of what I mean is that if you like I and others do point out the problem of "radicalised Muslim extremists" he goes off. No amount of clarifying tat who you are talking about is contained exclusively in this group and no amount of evidence as to damage they cause is good enough. No, you are in his eyes a bigot. not because you are talking about a real issue nor about a real issue that concerns a subset of the Muslim community and a radicalised fringe at that BUT you mentioned Muslims and so you are in his mind attacking all Muslims and he MUST defend Muslims and you are necessarily a bigot for attacking Muslims and must be combated for your bigotry. Fucking ridiculous cognitive dissonance
So yes shit like that kind of thing came up and things went from bad to worse resulting in him abusing his admin tools because he could not gain any purchase. Despite attempts from me to resolve things he (see above) was unable to admit to having been in the wrong. Finally with Py's help and after he melted down and had a two or three day break and threatened to to take down the site, he returned and we resolved things in so much as a truce. I asked for his explanations on a 4 or 5 points (not apology just explanation). He conceded and we both made blanket statements as to our mutual culpability in the situation having got out of hand and to the need to drop hostilities and seek to not feud and for the benefit of the forum. A commitment to disagree but not get personal and nasty.
Scrap who he has also abused the Admin tools with in losing arguments and getting angry with, a number of years ago and a couple of times since has said some gross things about fucking pubscent girls or rather I think in most situations (to be fair, implied it). The kind of thing was "when there is grass on the field it is okay to play ball". Something like that. (I did not not get it. I thought he was saying he had a preference for shaved vaginas). He did however often join in with Lit who's perpetual fantasy was to go arse to mouth with some young Swedish teenager (young teenager being someone the age of consent in some countries with low age of consent laws). Scrap seemed quite keen and mentioned that 13 or so was the age of consent in some countries which he expressed a want to move there. In honesty a lot of it seemed like he was trying to be edgy or using really poor humourless jokes. It was fucking gross and every time he did it. Here in Australia there is an expression. Old enough to bleed, old enough to butcher. Guys sometimes say that and it is normally in joke and to be deliberately gross in baiting for a reaction. To which a stock standard answer is something like "Oh get fuck you dirty prick" and a laugh if you think they were joking and pressing them as to whether they are dinkum if they aren't seeming to be joking. I figured it was a case of the former, with Scrap but did not know and thought irrespective it was not funny it was revolting.
So 7 months on from the truce. We have disagreed, Odeon and I, but kept getting personal out of it and bite our tongues. We have live and let lived. The forum has been humming along. Not busy but short on drama. Odeon has been pressing Scrap on explaining previous things he said on the girls and Scrap has been ignoring himself. Neither one backing themselves really. Odeon getting no purchase on that decided to change tactics and state something along the lines of
" :bounce: is too over developed for Scrap's tastes in boobs"
It was such a patently ridiculous thing to say, I pointed out quite reasonably (and I was not the only one to see this was true) that Scrap has been the most prolific poster of boobs in I2, bar no one. MOST of his posts on nude or topless girls have been girl with really large breasts. So the statement was provably dishonest and stupid. Whatever Scrap has said or done, THAT avenue is something that Scrap can provably acquit himself. There is no one here that could make a better case for liking big breasted women.
So I told you already about Odeon's ideological puritan narratives? Well I had not realised that his fucked up thought processes had gone off the rails again. His attack on Scrap liking "underdeveloped boobs" was actually an extension of him saying "I disliked what Scrap said about pubescent girls and I want him to own this and admit it to all and raawwwwrrrrr" and me pulling him up on this was somehow me now defending not the ridiculous assertion that someone with a very clear preference to large breasted females (or at least large boobs in general) is the opposite of preferring smaller breasts.......but excusing Scrap of all the things he said about pubescent girls which I have never supported, condoned or excused. But in his mind I had done that and so now he would attack me as (I don't know) a "pedophile-enabler" (?). He did this by dragging my daughter in to attack me for not backing what was a ridiculous assertion in the first place.
Pretty silly. As getting personal and bringing my family in started the first feud with Zegh, so did Odeon now. Now knowing the above, did he introspect, take responsibility, seek to address anything? What do you think he may have done instead? This above gives you a hint as to what he will do and what is to follow. Not in order "He will start shit, get shit back not admit his part in things. He will obfuscate, make false equivalencies, lie, project, misdirect, spam, misrepresent, threat, abuse the admin panel, and so on."
Oh and Icequeen and Ministry of Silly Walks have jumped in to defend him like Odeon did with Zegh way back when. Grist for the mill.
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Sounds like a hole load of crap to me. You twats bait and switch all the time, no wonder you all get confused and angwy.
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Sounds like a hole load of crap to me. You twats bait and switch all the time, no wonder you all get confused and angwy.
126 posts to go, dickhead. Keep posting.
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I don't believe they are suffering from a narcissistic personality disorder as the crap is too consistent to be a word salad. No, they are suffering from themselves.
Give the man a cigar.
And a standing ovation.
:congrats: :murica:
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I don't believe they are suffering from a narcissistic personality disorder as the crap is too consistent to be a word salad. No, they are suffering from themselves.
Give the man a cigar.
And a standing ovation.
:congrats: :murica:
Except that I am not suffering with myself. Apart from that bit.
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There is word salad which is normally a symptom of schizophrenia.
And there's narcissistic word salad which is intended to dominate and confuse and twist a narrative.
In this thread we are discussing the latter.
Spat my coffee literally this morning when I saw the length of Al's reply to Callandale. Absolute gold.
McDangly is starting to grow on me as well.
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Lestat can certainly post some word salad but the last thing that it is, is narcissistic.
There's actually a term for what Lestat does and it's called Nerd gassing.
He simply has an autistic fascination with certain topics and can post a lot of detailed information about them, along with some long winded strings of adjectives.
I've got no idea about the narcissism. For me, it's the expectation.
Projection and all.
I've no more idea with Al. In both cases, my poor little narcissistic brain can't parse all them words.
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Al,
Salad is fine and all, but it's still not good in huge quantities. You're not quite as bad as Lestat
at this, but can't you try and keep your point succinct?
I guess it's better than Odeon's repetitive non-engagement posts, but I feel that you may actually
have something to say - it's just that it's not worth struggling through all those words, and still
come up empty.
Certainly do. Unfortunately I guess for you, you have come in rather late to the party and sketching it out possibly will mean dropping a lot of pertinent information and even whilst doing so will probably still come across as long-winded
So bare bones basic (disregarding a lot of back and forth and nuance and such).
Odeon has a problem (more than a few). Odeon likes the rough and tumble of the playground as a member but also like leaning on his Admin tools heavily when he gets blowback. He will start shit, get shit back not admit his part in things. He will obfuscate, make false equivalencies, lie, project, misdirect, spam, misrepresent, threat, abuse the admin panel, and so on.
In essence he is a cowardly little bitch.
So there was a member called Zegh. You may remember him. Scandinavian stoner who smoked weed, drew dinosaurs and talked up what a badass troll he was. He used to like starting shit and saying nasty shit about people to get a rise out of them. He tried it with me, using my ex-wife. We started a feud which he initially thought was fun. Initially. After a long time, Odeon jumped in, having let it go for a while and decided to jump fairly on me and with some bullshit narratives. I had both of them now and occasionally others.
Fair, you have to back yourself here so fine. Zegh ended up melting down at Scrap and leaving. Things did not stop with Odeon. Odeon was being Odeon (See above). Another undesirable trait of Odeon's (I did say there were many) is that he is one of these moral virtue signalling Progressives. You cannot say ANYTHING that could somehow be in any way tangentially connected to his ideologically puritan narratives. An example of what I mean is that if you like I and others do point out the problem of "radicalised Muslim extremists" he goes off. No amount of clarifying tat who you are talking about is contained exclusively in this group and no amount of evidence as to damage they cause is good enough. No, you are in his eyes a bigot. not because you are talking about a real issue nor about a real issue that concerns a subset of the Muslim community and a radicalised fringe at that BUT you mentioned Muslims and so you are in his mind attacking all Muslims and he MUST defend Muslims and you are necessarily a bigot for attacking Muslims and must be combated for your bigotry. Fucking ridiculous cognitive dissonance
So yes shit like that kind of thing came up and things went from bad to worse resulting in him abusing his admin tools because he could not gain any purchase. Despite attempts from me to resolve things he (see above) was unable to admit to having been in the wrong. Finally with Py's help and after he melted down and had a two or three day break and threatened to to take down the site, he returned and we resolved things in so much as a truce. I asked for his explanations on a 4 or 5 points (not apology just explanation). He conceded and we both made blanket statements as to our mutual culpability in the situation having got out of hand and to the need to drop hostilities and seek to not feud and for the benefit of the forum. A commitment to disagree but not get personal and nasty.
Scrap who he has also abused the Admin tools with in losing arguments and getting angry with, a number of years ago and a couple of times since has said some gross things about fucking pubscent girls or rather I think in most situations (to be fair, implied it). The kind of thing was "when there is grass on the field it is okay to play ball". Something like that. (I did not not get it. I thought he was saying he had a preference for shaved vaginas). He did however often join in with Lit who's perpetual fantasy was to go arse to mouth with some young Swedish teenager (young teenager being someone the age of consent in some countries with low age of consent laws). Scrap seemed quite keen and mentioned that 13 or so was the age of consent in some countries which he expressed a want to move there. In honesty a lot of it seemed like he was trying to be edgy or using really poor humourless jokes. It was fucking gross and every time he did it. Here in Australia there is an expression. Old enough to bleed, old enough to butcher. Guys sometimes say that and it is normally in joke and to be deliberately gross in baiting for a reaction. To which a stock standard answer is something like "Oh get fuck you dirty prick" and a laugh if you think they were joking and pressing them as to whether they are dinkum if they aren't seeming to be joking. I figured it was a case of the former, with Scrap but did not know and thought irrespective it was not funny it was revolting.
So 7 months on from the truce. We have disagreed, Odeon and I, but kept getting personal out of it and bite our tongues. We have live and let lived. The forum has been humming along. Not busy but short on drama. Odeon has been pressing Scrap on explaining previous things he said on the girls and Scrap has been ignoring himself. Neither one backing themselves really. Odeon getting no purchase on that decided to change tactics and state something along the lines of
" :bounce: is too over developed for Scrap's tastes in boobs"
It was such a patently ridiculous thing to say, I pointed out quite reasonably (and I was not the only one to see this was true) that Scrap has been the most prolific poster of boobs in I2, bar no one. MOST of his posts on nude or topless girls have been girl with really large breasts. So the statement was provably dishonest and stupid. Whatever Scrap has said or done, THAT avenue is something that Scrap can provably acquit himself. There is no one here that could make a better case for liking big breasted women.
So I told you already about Odeon's ideological puritan narratives? Well I had not realised that his fucked up thought processes had gone off the rails again. His attack on Scrap liking "underdeveloped boobs" was actually an extension of him saying "I disliked what Scrap said about pubescent girls and I want him to own this and admit it to all and raawwwwrrrrr" and me pulling him up on this was somehow me now defending not the ridiculous assertion that someone with a very clear preference to large breasted females (or at least large boobs in general) is the opposite of preferring smaller breasts.......but excusing Scrap of all the things he said about pubescent girls which I have never supported, condoned or excused. But in his mind I had done that and so now he would attack me as (I don't know) a "pedophile-enabler" (?). He did this by dragging my daughter in to attack me for not backing what was a ridiculous assertion in the first place.
Pretty silly. As getting personal and bringing my family in started the first feud with Zegh, so did Odeon now. Now knowing the above, did he introspect, take responsibility, seek to address anything? What do you think he may have done instead? This above gives you a hint as to what he will do and what is to follow. Not in order "He will start shit, get shit back not admit his part in things. He will obfuscate, make false equivalencies, lie, project, misdirect, spam, misrepresent, threat, abuse the admin panel, and so on."
Oh and Icequeen and Ministry of Silly Walks have jumped in to defend him like Odeon did with Zegh way back when. Grist for the mill.
No. This ain't bare bones basic.
Tell you what - try limiting yourself to 20 words or less per post.
Then, maybe people will give a shit.
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No. This ain't bare bones basic.
Tell you what - try limiting yourself to 20 words or less per post.
Then, maybe people will give a shit.
I tell YOU what how about I don't and I do not give a damn what people think? Where will that leave this premise?
I told you a lot of nuance would be lost and if you are covering 3 years and many daily posts and premises and actions by an assorted group on a forum then this IS bare bones. I explained to limit it would lose all of that nuance. You go to 20 words or less. It is on its face ridiculous, which I give a pass to, because you are coming in too late with no idea.
So thanks for your suggestion, but "No".
There is word salad which is normally a symptom of schizophrenia.
And there's narcissistic word salad which is intended to dominate and confuse and twist a narrative.
In this thread we are discussing the latter.
Spat my coffee literally this morning when I saw the length of Al's reply to Callandale. Absolute gold.
McDangly is starting to grow on me as well.
You are easily amused and I have said that before.
It sounds to me, increasingly that there is a "word salad" for every occasion. This is very convenient if you wish to label people with psychological conditions by picking a trait here or a behaviour there and applying it wholesale. Kind of like a group of people not on the Autism Spectrum all agreeing that they "have a little bit of that" because one of them loves his Footy" (and so meets the obsessive criteria) and another is shy (and so meets the social criteria) and such. Of course in their case they are ignorant. You are just a dishonest and somewhat Goofy Mother Fucker.
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Al, yes, you do appear to have a word salad for every occasion.
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Al, yes, you do appear to have a word salad for every occasion.
There seems to be a glitch in Al's posts. They seem to consist of thousands of words in random sequence with no basis in reality. The glitch has always been there but it seems to be getting even worse.
(https://theaimn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/gaslighting1-e1510355547354.jpg)
#1, #4 and #6
No I didn't (#5)
Isn't gaslighting integral to the Narcissistic word salad? And isn't the fact that many of your behaviours are blatant gaslighting meaning that you are actually creating word salad? And if you are doing that then you are a Narcissist right?
I mean that is kind of the narrative you were trying to spin introducing that thread initially right?
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Except that I am not suffering with myself. Apart from that bit.
:lol1: Point.
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No. This ain't bare bones basic.
Tell you what - try limiting yourself to 20 words or less per post.
Then, maybe people will give a shit.
I tell YOU what how about I don't and I do not give a damn what people think? Where will that leave this premise?
I told you a lot of nuance would be lost and if you are covering 3 years and many daily posts and premises and actions by an assorted group on a forum then this IS bare bones. I explained to limit it would lose all of that nuance. You go to 20 words or less. It is on its face ridiculous, which I give a pass to, because you are coming in too late with no idea.
So thanks for your suggestion, but "No".
Fair enough. It's just that when you write a large mass of text, most of us aren't going to give enough
of a shit to try and wade through it. If your aim is to communicate and/or sway people, you really
need to improve your writing. The discipline enforced by concision would likely help.
At the very least, you would have to get to your point.
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No. This ain't bare bones basic.
Tell you what - try limiting yourself to 20 words or less per post.
Then, maybe people will give a shit.
I tell YOU what how about I don't and I do not give a damn what people think? Where will that leave this premise?
I told you a lot of nuance would be lost and if you are covering 3 years and many daily posts and premises and actions by an assorted group on a forum then this IS bare bones. I explained to limit it would lose all of that nuance. You go to 20 words or less. It is on its face ridiculous, which I give a pass to, because you are coming in too late with no idea.
So thanks for your suggestion, but "No".
Fair enough. It's just that when you write a large mass of text, most of us aren't going to give enough
of a shit to try and wade through it. If your aim is to communicate and/or sway people, you really
need to improve your writing. The discipline enforced by concision would likely help.
At the very least, you would have to get to your point.
Doesn't bother me either way.
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So...it IS narcissistic. :zoinks:
I had been wondering if it qualified.
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So...it IS narcissistic. :zoinks:
I had been wondering if it qualified.
Ha!
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At the very least, you would have to get to your point.
The whole point of Narcissistic Word Salad is to bewilder and express butthurt and moral superiority while going around and around in circles and avoiding the point entirely.
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At the very least, you would have to get to your point.
The whole point of Narcissistic Word Salad is to bewilder and express butthurt and moral superiority while going around and around in circles and avoiding the point entirely.
Being that what you described is NOT my point (and in fact Py seems to have roundly understood my point as represented all along) doesn't this make you at best a sycophantic partisan on Team Odeon and at worse an absolute miron?
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I'm not a miron. At least I don't think I am. Is it good or bad?
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At the very least, you would have to get to your point.
The whole point of Narcissistic Word Salad is to bewilder and express butthurt and moral superiority while going around and around in circles and avoiding the point entirely.
Being that what you described is NOT my point (and in fact Py seems to have roundly understood my point as represented all along) doesn't this make you at best a sycophantic partisan on Team Odeon and at worse an absolute miron?
Actually, my guess is that Pyraxis had some of the context. Generally, I try to ignore you and Odeon going at it,
because (outside of the memes) it is dull as shit. I can understand what he writes, and it's repetitive and
useless. I know his tactics here. But I can't make head nor tail out of what you're going on about.
Now, if instead of splattering textual diarrhea throughout several threads, you made a cogent and short winded
explanation, rather than ranting on assuming everyone has been following your lovers' quarrel raptly, maybe
others would care. As it is, without sufficient context, and verbose whilst never expressing whatever it is
you're trying to say, yeah, it's just garbage.
I'm sure as hell no Odeon supporter. I strongly suspect you have a reasonable grievance and that you simply
can't seem to state it.
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I'm not a miron. At least I don't think I am. Is it good or bad?
I am sure you would not know the difference in either being a moron or not a moron. But in either case your narrative of a word salad that you doctored for cowardly hero, Odeon, has fallen flat, like every attempt to reframe this favourably for him.
That is because it was slightly less blatant dishonesty as the previous narratives you lying sycophants have tried
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At the very least, you would have to get to your point.
The whole point of Narcissistic Word Salad is to bewilder and express butthurt and moral superiority while going around and around in circles and avoiding the point entirely.
Being that what you described is NOT my point (and in fact Py seems to have roundly understood my point as represented all along) doesn't this make you at best a sycophantic partisan on Team Odeon and at worse an absolute miron?
Actually, my guess is that Pyraxis had some of the context. Generally, I try to ignore you and Odeon going at it,
because (outside of the memes) it is dull as shit. I can understand what he writes, and it's repetitive and
useless. I know his tactics here. But I can't make head nor tail out of what you're going on about.
Now, if instead of splattering textual diarrhea throughout several threads, you made a cogent and short winded
explanation, rather than ranting on assuming everyone has been following your lovers' quarrel raptly, maybe
others would care. As it is, without sufficient context, and verbose whilst never expressing whatever it is
you're trying to say, yeah, it's just garbage.
I'm sure as hell no Odeon supporter. I strongly suspect you have a reasonable grievance and that you simply
can't seem to state it.
Or perhaps I have both contextualised and said it fine and you have missed out on much of things to not be able to tie everything in like she has.
You want 3 years summaried in 20 words with no context lost
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This thread is so annoying. Word salad has a meaning; this is not it. Autistics lack theory of mind; this is not narcissism.
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This thread is so annoying. Word salad has a meaning; this is not it. Autistics lack theory of mind; this is not narcissism.
Yes, despite MOSW's transparent lies that this was just something of interest and whatever, it was in truth simply him trying to drive what he knew was a dishonest narrative that I am a Narcissistic or otherwise Psychologically compromised, and thus voiding any position AND giving cover to Odeon.
Not that he will admit to either the lie nor his intentions
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Actually, my guess is that Pyraxis had some of the context. Generally, I try to ignore you and Odeon going at it,
because (outside of the memes) it is dull as shit. I can understand what he writes, and it's repetitive and
useless. I know his tactics here. But I can't make head nor tail out of what you're going on about.
It's not hard. The link to the post he's complaining about is in his sig.
I don't think you do understand, actually. You can't simply agree with me, these days, so you choose to be intellectually dishonest yourself. You know perfectly well it wasn't about the boob size but wanting Scrap to clarify his earlier comments was and remains out of the question for you since it's me reminding him.
Cowardly and disappointing (I seem to recall you have a daughter) but not unexpected. :thumbdn:
Point being that there's been an unspoken agreement here for a long time, not to bring people's kids into shitty arguments.
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This thread is so annoying. Word salad has a meaning; this is not it. Autistics lack theory of mind; this is not narcissism.
Word salad has a meaning. Narcissistic word salad also has a meaning. You can google it and find multiple consistent descriptions and accounts of what Narcissistic word salad is (as I did in the first 3 posts of this thread).
Autistics lack theory of mind. Does that mean that they cannot be narcissists? Or sociopaths?
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I think I need a butthurt sig. Odeon copped one for a single reference to someone's daughter, and whether that was in an insulting or degrading way doesn't seem to be of importance. I have copped multiple insulting references to a member of my family.
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This thread is so annoying. Word salad has a meaning; this is not it. Autistics lack theory of mind; this is not narcissism.
Word salad has a meaning. Narcissistic word salad also has a meaning. You can google it and find multiple consistent descriptions and accounts of what Narcissistic word salad is (as I did in the first 3 posts of this thread).
Autistics lack theory of mind. Does that mean that they cannot be narcissists? Or sociopaths?
Being on the spectrum doesn't rule out other disorders...like narcissism, OCD, bi-polar, borderline, schizotypal, or schizoid.
Having one does not eliminate the other.
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This thread is so annoying. Word salad has a meaning; this is not it. Autistics lack theory of mind; this is not narcissism.
Word salad has a meaning. Narcissistic word salad also has a meaning. You can google it and find multiple consistent descriptions and accounts of what Narcissistic word salad is (as I did in the first 3 posts of this thread).
Autistics lack theory of mind. Does that mean that they cannot be narcissists? Or sociopaths?
Being on the spectrum doesn't rule out other disorders...like narcissism, OCD, bi-polar, borderline, schizotypal, or schizoid.
Having one does not eliminate the other.
I would say that that is very obviously the case.....
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This thread is so annoying. Word salad has a meaning; this is not it. Autistics lack theory of mind; this is not narcissism.
Word salad has a meaning. Narcissistic word salad also has a meaning. You can google it and find multiple consistent descriptions and accounts of what Narcissistic word salad is (as I did in the first 3 posts of this thread).
Autistics lack theory of mind. Does that mean that they cannot be narcissists? Or sociopaths?
Sorry, the "I was just...I was just" was never a strong narrative and no you were not "just" doing any of that.
You were falsely implying I had a Psychological disorder as a way to dismiss my points of concern and to back the cowardly leader.
You are lying.when you say otherwise. You are lying because you are a liar. Your attempts to make "reasonable" excuses are pathetic, childish, and cowardly.
Told you that you would make a good student of Odeon
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This thread is so annoying. Word salad has a meaning; this is not it. Autistics lack theory of mind; this is not narcissism.
Word salad has a meaning. Narcissistic word salad also has a meaning. You can google it and find multiple consistent descriptions and accounts of what Narcissistic word salad is (as I did in the first 3 posts of this thread).
Autistics lack theory of mind. Does that mean that they cannot be narcissists? Or sociopaths?
Being on the spectrum doesn't rule out other disorders...like narcissism, OCD, bi-polar, borderline, schizotypal, or schizoid.
Having one does not eliminate the other.
You can mount a better defence than that Icequeen. You have to step it up because Odeon is not active
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Your attempts to twist the narrative are as transparent as your ridiculous, excessive verbosity. I am not hiding from your pompous and feeble-minded attacks and gaslighting.
Mental disorder? Well, if the shoe fits, write a 10,000 word butthurt monologue denying that it's even a shoe!
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Do you hit your kids like your parents hit you? I would hit you if you hit yourself too...
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This thread is so annoying. Word salad has a meaning; this is not it. Autistics lack theory of mind; this is not narcissism.
Word salad has a meaning. Narcissistic word salad also has a meaning. You can google it and find multiple consistent descriptions and accounts of what Narcissistic word salad is (as I did in the first 3 posts of this thread).
Autistics lack theory of mind. Does that mean that they cannot be narcissists? Or sociopaths?
Sorry, the "I was just...I was just" was never a strong narrative and no you were not "just" doing any of that.
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See? This is the kind of shit I'm talking about. It's like you've made some additional assumptions,
and then act as though we all followed them.
Such obscurantism is fine when you're playing with only a few words (especially without the quote), because it becomes a game.
But then, you usually post a whole wall of such, and it comes down to a pile of nonsense.
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This thread is so annoying. Word salad has a meaning; this is not it. Autistics lack theory of mind; this is not narcissism.
Word salad has a meaning. Narcissistic word salad also has a meaning. You can google it and find multiple consistent descriptions and accounts of what Narcissistic word salad is (as I did in the first 3 posts of this thread).
Autistics lack theory of mind. Does that mean that they cannot be narcissists? Or sociopaths?
Sorry, the "I was just...I was just" was never a strong narrative and no you were not "just" doing any of that.
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See? This is the kind of shit I'm talking about. It's like you've made some additional assumptions,
and then act as though we all followed them.
Such obscurantism is fine when you're playing with only a few words (especially without the quote), because it becomes a game.
But then, you usually post a whole wall of such, and it comes down to a pile of nonsense.
I can't understand Al's gobbledygook about 90% of the time. But this time I suspect that he is referring to an exchange where he accused me of starting this thread in order to imply that he was some kind of narcissist and that he was posting word salad.
Imagine that!
Of course I pointed out that I was just sharing this information as other members might find it interesting. Isn't that the point of forums, to share interesting information?
I mean, why would anyone leap to the conclusion that a thread about narcissistic word salad was about them? That's kinda paranoid!
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Your attempts to twist the narrative are as transparent as your ridiculous, excessive verbosity. I am not hiding from your pompous and feeble-minded attacks and gaslighting.
Mental disorder? Well, if the shoe fits, write a 10,000 word butthurt monologue denying that it's even a shoe!
Indeed. You are presenting a narrative that is absurd, dishonest and childish. If anything deserves to be "twisted" it is this narrative. In fact, metaphorically taking it out back and putting a bullet between its eyes would have been more humane.
You are absolutely hiding. You wrote this purely as an attack against me and tried to non-too-subtly imply my posting style is this very word salad, THUS dismissing and invalidating any proposition I have and ULTIMATELY supporting Odeon. Gaslighting. (You obviously have a psychological disorder and therefore are not worth listening to and therefore we can pre-emptively acquit anything you say a not worth listening to). Except of course there is no Psychological disorder. The attempts you make to align random behaviours or interpretation of intentions from me into a psychologically disturbed trait, can (and Scrap has done it to you over and over) be applied just as Liberally to you or Odeon.
The premise was dishonest fro the outset and NO amount of hiding behind. "I just did it because i thought it would be interesting for others" or "it was not actually directed at anyone" or any such bullshit, is going to work.
Try a new narrative.
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This thread is so annoying. Word salad has a meaning; this is not it. Autistics lack theory of mind; this is not narcissism.
Word salad has a meaning. Narcissistic word salad also has a meaning. You can google it and find multiple consistent descriptions and accounts of what Narcissistic word salad is (as I did in the first 3 posts of this thread).
Autistics lack theory of mind. Does that mean that they cannot be narcissists? Or sociopaths?
Sorry, the "I was just...I was just" was never a strong narrative and no you were not "just" doing any of that.
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See? This is the kind of shit I'm talking about. It's like you've made some additional assumptions,
and then act as though we all followed them.
Such obscurantism is fine when you're playing with only a few words (especially without the quote), because it becomes a game.
But then, you usually post a whole wall of such, and it comes down to a pile of nonsense.
Cal, I will spell this out mate because apparently I did not make it resoundingly clear last time.
NOT CATERING TO YOUR 20 WORD POST COUNT PREFERENCE......AT ALL.
Hope that is a little clearer. You may disagree with my decision or think I should post how you like rather than how I have been posting for 11 years on here but it is not happening. At all.
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This thread is so annoying. Word salad has a meaning; this is not it. Autistics lack theory of mind; this is not narcissism.
Word salad has a meaning. Narcissistic word salad also has a meaning. You can google it and find multiple consistent descriptions and accounts of what Narcissistic word salad is (as I did in the first 3 posts of this thread).
Autistics lack theory of mind. Does that mean that they cannot be narcissists? Or sociopaths?
The ability to google something doesn't lend credit to the information or it's source. Word salad has a meaning and it doesn't mean manipulation tactics which disorient people. Narcissist understand how others think and use that knowledge with self serving intent. Do believe autistics lack this quality of master manipulators, and the lack of TOM can be misinterpreted as deliberate.
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This thread is so annoying. Word salad has a meaning; this is not it. Autistics lack theory of mind; this is not narcissism.
Word salad has a meaning. Narcissistic word salad also has a meaning. You can google it and find multiple consistent descriptions and accounts of what Narcissistic word salad is (as I did in the first 3 posts of this thread).
Autistics lack theory of mind. Does that mean that they cannot be narcissists? Or sociopaths?
Being on the spectrum doesn't rule out other disorders...like narcissism, OCD, bi-polar, borderline, schizotypal, or schizoid.
Having one does not eliminate the other.
I would say that that is very obviously the case.....
The case of what?
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This thread is so annoying. Word salad has a meaning; this is not it. Autistics lack theory of mind; this is not narcissism.
Word salad has a meaning. Narcissistic word salad also has a meaning. You can google it and find multiple consistent descriptions and accounts of what Narcissistic word salad is (as I did in the first 3 posts of this thread).
Autistics lack theory of mind. Does that mean that they cannot be narcissists? Or sociopaths?
The ability to google something doesn't lend credit to the information or it's source. Word salad has a meaning and it doesn't mean manipulation tactics which disorient people. Narcissist understand how others think and use that knowledge with self serving intent. Do believe autistics lack this quality of master manipulators, and the lack of TOM can be misinterpreted as deliberate.
No, it does and this effort is transparently and on-its-face disingenuous.
The truth is that whilst I am sure they can look at the list of traits and interpret certain things I have done or said as Narcissistic or whatever, I can do similar to them. It does not ACTUALLY mean a fucking thing and they know this.
But then this is not and was never about truth any more than it was about finding something interesting. It was narrative spinning and so evidently in their "What a minute let's not throw this narrative out completely because surely Autistic people can be Narcissists and therefore let's keep this in play to pretend that members here are Narcissists AND as members who have Psychological conditions, they are to have their opinions dismissed and get mocked".
It is weak and transparently pathetic.
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The term "Word Salad" carries multiple meanings.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/word-salad
...and for all I knew when I first clicked over this thread was that it could have referred to Trump...before someone else decided to "own" it.
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The term "Word Salad" carries multiple meanings.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/word-salad
...and for all I knew when I first clicked over this thread was that it could have referred to Trump...before someone else decided to "own" it.
Cool story, but needed more ninjas.
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ac/de/e4/acdee4f85bfa0262067bd69aa8612b32.jpg)
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The term "Word Salad" carries multiple meanings.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/word-salad
...and for all I knew when I first clicked over this thread was that it could have referred to Trump...before someone else decided to "own" it.
Words are allowed to have more than one specific meaning?
What sort of weird language permits such things?
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The term "Word Salad" carries multiple meanings.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/word-salad
...and for all I knew when I first clicked over this thread was that it could have referred to Trump...before someone else decided to "own" it.
Words are allowed to have more than one specific meaning?
What sort of weird language permits such things?
Yes and "who really knows" what your intentions or the meaning you were ascribing to "Narcissistic Word Salad - Whoah", right? I mean you are so sneaky and clever, and we are all so very fooled, right? Not like you provided any context in the first few posts or anything, right?
Goofy Mother Fucker
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The term "Word Salad" carries multiple meanings.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/word-salad
...and for all I knew when I first clicked over this thread was that it could have referred to Trump...before someone else decided to "own" it.
Words are allowed to have more than one specific meaning?
What sort of weird language permits such things?
Yes and "who really knows" what your intentions or the meaning you were ascribing to "Narcissistic Word Salad - Whoah", right? I mean you are so sneaky and clever, and we are all so very fooled, right? Not like you provided any context in the first few posts or anything, right?
Goofy Mother Fucker
Hypocritical scumbag. At least your posts are starting to become more coherent.
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The term "Word Salad" carries multiple meanings.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/word-salad
...and for all I knew when I first clicked over this thread was that it could have referred to Trump...before someone else decided to "own" it.
Words are allowed to have more than one specific meaning?
What sort of weird language permits such things?
Yes and "who really knows" what your intentions or the meaning you were ascribing to "Narcissistic Word Salad - Whoah", right? I mean you are so sneaky and clever, and we are all so very fooled, right? Not like you provided any context in the first few posts or anything, right?
Goofy Mother Fucker
Hypocritical scumbag. At least your posts are starting to become more coherent.
No, they always made perfect sense. You lie freely.
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Cal, I will spell this out mate because apparently I did not make it resoundingly clear last time.
NOT CATERING TO YOUR 20 WORD POST COUNT PREFERENCE......AT ALL.
Hope that is a little clearer. You may disagree with my decision or think I should post how you like rather than how I have been posting for 11 years on here but it is not happening. At all.
I get that. It will be harder then, but could you attempt to write clearly?
I mean, I know that Lestat has no valid concerns in his posts, but if you're going to try and make accusations against the
site that you expect people to understand, you shouldn't be channeling Flo's ghost.
So far, we've heard ONE person say they understand what you're going on about. One.
That's not effective communications, that's being in tune with someone.
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Why, what ever has come over mdagli1? that was almost bordering on semicoherent :autism:
As far as that sort of crap goes, way too much of it reminds me of the former, now thankfully gone housemate I invited over when on AFF, after it became pretty obvious in the context at the time that was visible, that some fucked up shit was going her way from her family.
Now I wouldn't be surprised if her family forced her to set it up, and provided 'background noise', to assist in putting it into practice, after giving the bitch her marching orders, and maybe agreed to help faking some sort of scenario to lure someone in as a last bit of aid, because they would probably after living with her into her 20s, be willing to kick her into the street, if it had been a kid of mine, I'd have drowned the bitch, or kicked her out. Probably silenced her for good because she was a dangerous, scheming vindictive little shit as well. Even known her (ex post facto) to have made up a fake rape story, when in fact it can only have been consensual, knowing the individual in question, who just, well, didn't have that kind of thing in his make-up, he couldn't have raped his way out of a paper bag with a white phosphorus grenade if his life depended on it. Didn't really LIKE the guy, but I'm confident, and all the more so knowing its at least the third apparent rape the bitch allegedly had happen to her.
Serial liar, absolutely so, SO full of shit.
Clingy little bitch, and with plenty emphasis on 'bitch', because, well, she was. Nothing ever right.
Bipolar, borderline PD, complete fucking mental case, who eventually actually tried to kill me, by breaking in my bedroom door, after I'd blocked it off, because I told her 'no, you are NOT coming in here right now, I'm waking up, and I'm getting dressed', and she couldn't handle it, demanding to feed the pet fish I'd allowed to keep to feel more at home while she was here, as with the family situation, the violence, whether real, simulated or a mixture of both (I'd blame nobody for knocking the crap out of this creature, she is the devil incarnate. Thankfully kassiane S clued me in to a few things about her too that didn't add up, and I KNOW I can trust kassi. Didn't expect she (the housemate that is not kassiane, I couldn't see her doing anything of the kind, because she, well, isn't EVIL, the housemate on the other hand, definitely is. Toxic, borderline PD evil poisonous viper bitch from hell.)
But this crazy fucking cunt broke past the blocked door, and charged in there with a fucking samurai sword, tried to gut me because I insisted on my right to get dressed and exclude another person with whom I am not in a relationship from the room while I wake up, get out of bed and throw some clothes on. I just got lucky really, fortunately I had an edge on her, because I had several firearms, alongside a sword of my own, and she had no ranged weapon. Ended up disarming her and knocking the shit out of the little hellwhore, before kicking her ass out for good, with nowt but the clothing on her back, and an asthma inhaler I knew was hers and allowed her to take, for some reason. I should have killed her and claimed self defense, I really should.
Had to go through EVERYTHING of hers, and search it all, for anything stolen, I'd caught her stealing money off my old man too, waiting until he'd gone to the bog in the morning after waking, then running in barefoot to his room, caught her coming back with money she'd taken from his wallet. I kept my mouth shut to him, that time, because we both desperately had to eat, at the time, didn't like it one bit but I didn't really have much alternative, not if I was to have any food on the table whatsoever either. But she had to go.
And a bloody prolific little lying scheming thief too, had been stealing and hoarding my meds, to force me into withdrawal from pain meds, antiseizure meds, whilst whether legitimately or not, on an albeit weaker form of pain med script from a doc here of her own, and valium, temazepam for sleep, she couldn't USE the meds she'd nicked off me, she was apparently allergic and it would have done severe harm or killed her. But had been making sure I couldn't, and was going through them faster than I should, gaslighting me trying to make me think I'd used them and forgotten, found proof otherwise after I gave her das boot though, found a huge stash she'd lifted from me over time.
Bloody spiteful little ingrate slag, after I'd taken her in, as a friend, to protect a friend from what seemed to be textbook abuse vented AT her (if there ever was, now I know she had it coming), put a roof over her head, temporarily even converted my lab space to a bedroom for her, paid for her food, helped her get her medical needs attended by my GP, hell, even pointed out a real bonanza of a find of a certain little brown wild mushroom species that grows on woodchips, Psilocybe cyanescens, not common, and they have certain highly poisonous, deadly lookalikes, which require an experienced mycophile's eye to run some basic tests to rule the presence of the nasty lookalike (Galerina autumnalis, positive for the same horrible, slow, hideously unpleasant way to die known as amatoxins as found in the notorious Death Cap, Amanita phalloides, as well as some of its relatives such as A.virosa, the destroying angel, or A.verna, the fool's mushroom. Destroys the liver, and untreated, there is at a minimum, a 90% fatality rate in cases of amatoxin poisoning. With intensive, aggressive hospital treatment with the advice of someone competent to advise in treatment who knows their mushroom toxicology as well as I do [not intended as a boast, that, is one thing I am damn good at, knowing what to pick and eat, what must go straight in the bin if found in a haul as well as anything close to it in the pile, or even an entire bag if there are several specimens around. Been picking and eating wild mushrooms since I was a little kid]
I was kind enough to clue her in and teach her about the find, as we were walking home from a bite to eat at a macdonalds, where I happened to spot them fruiting in a HUGE strip, all throughout a woodchip bed, we had to seek a few free handouts by way of 'happy meal' empty boxes from the mac-Ds so we could harvest the woodchip bed together and cart the mushroom haul home. Because what I'd recognized, in the dim light of the late evening, was probably the most potent psilocybin magic mushroom species in britain outside of private culture and grow ops; certainly the most potent found wild.
And there were so damn many, that just cleaning them by hand, with paper towels to brush the dirt off the damp caps before drying the ones we weren't using straight away, we both accidentally absorbed enough psilocin and psilocybin through skin contact to actually end up properly tripping fairly obviously, with eyes blown up like dinnerplates :autism:
Yet she just had to behave like a clingy, bitchy, lying, thieving little brat, and eventually tried to kill me over getting dressed before letting her feed her damn fish, and came close enough I almost had to shoot her in the face at close range with my revolver. Can't stand toxic little shits like that. And borderlines are just the WORST. Just bad people, writeoffs through and through.
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Cal, I will spell this out mate because apparently I did not make it resoundingly clear last time.
NOT CATERING TO YOUR 20 WORD POST COUNT PREFERENCE......AT ALL.
Hope that is a little clearer. You may disagree with my decision or think I should post how you like rather than how I have been posting for 11 years on here but it is not happening. At all.
I get that. It will be harder then, but could you attempt to write clearly?
I mean, I know that Lestat has no valid concerns in his posts, but if you're going to try and make accusations against the
site that you expect people to understand, you shouldn't be channeling Flo's ghost.
So far, we've heard ONE person say they understand what you're going on about. One.
That's not effective communications, that's being in tune with someone.
I am going to write as I have written for the last 11 years on here irrespective of what style or manner people may prefer
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I am going to write as I have written for the last 11 years on here irrespective of what style or manner people may prefer whether it is comprehensible.
fixed.
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I am going to write as I have written for the last 11 years on here irrespective of what style or manner people may prefer
Except you don't write as how you have written for the last 11 years...5-11 years ago you were at least coherent.
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I am going to write as I have written for the last 11 years on here irrespective of what style or manner people may prefer
Except you don't write as how you have written for the last 11 years...5-11 years ago you were at least coherent.
Nope, I write the same and you just not dislike me then. So back then you were not inclined to make ridiculous statements like this about me.
I haven't changed nor will I. Especially not for anyone here. But beat that drum all you like.
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I am going to write as I have written for the last 11 years on here irrespective of what style or manner people may prefer
Except you don't write as how you have written for the last 11 years...5-11 years ago you were at least coherent.
Nope, I write the same and you just not dislike me then. So back then you were not inclined to make ridiculous statements like this about me.
I haven't changed nor will I. Especially not for anyone here. But beat that drum all you like.
I didn't dislike you until after about 6 months of wading through novels of bullshit. Patience is not one of my virtues.
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The term "Word Salad" carries multiple meanings.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/word-salad
...and for all I knew when I first clicked over this thread was that it could have referred to Trump...before someone else decided to "own" it.
This is from that link. It may actually be related to Trump, since it says it's been used for politicians, and the link is dates April 2017.
Only time will tell whether this "ridiculous and incoherent" meaning of word salad will become common enough to make it into the dictionary. But it seems likely: after all, politics are unlikely to become less nonsensical anytime soon.
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This thread is so annoying. Word salad has a meaning; this is not it. Autistics lack theory of mind; this is not narcissism.
Word salad has a meaning. Narcissistic word salad also has a meaning. You can google it and find multiple consistent descriptions and accounts of what Narcissistic word salad is (as I did in the first 3 posts of this thread).
Autistics lack theory of mind. Does that mean that they cannot be narcissists? Or sociopaths?
Being on the spectrum doesn't rule out other disorders...like narcissism, OCD, bi-polar, borderline, schizotypal, or schizoid.
Having one does not eliminate the other.
I would say that that is very obviously the case.....
The case of what?
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I am going to write as I have written for the last 11 years on here irrespective of what style or manner people may prefer
Except you don't write as how you have written for the last 11 years...5-11 years ago you were at least coherent.
Nope, I write the same and you just not dislike me then. So back then you were not inclined to make ridiculous statements like this about me.
I haven't changed nor will I. Especially not for anyone here. But beat that drum all you like.
I didn't dislike you until after about 6 months of wading through novels of bullshit. Patience is not one of my virtues.
Do you honestly think I give a fuck about any of your self-proclaimed virtues or what you like or dislike?
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I am going to write as I have written for the last 11 years on here irrespective of what style or manner people may prefer
Except you don't write as how you have written for the last 11 years...5-11 years ago you were at least coherent.
Yeah, I don't remember Les being this problematic to read back when I used to be on here.
Maybe you and I, and nearly everyone else here are the ones who are slipping though, and Les is the only
one who still can make coherent sense. We all somehow, without even contact between one another,
have invented our own way of thinking and understanding.
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This thread is so annoying. Word salad has a meaning; this is not it. Autistics lack theory of mind; this is not narcissism.
Word salad has a meaning. Narcissistic word salad also has a meaning. You can google it and find multiple consistent descriptions and accounts of what Narcissistic word salad is (as I did in the first 3 posts of this thread).
Autistics lack theory of mind. Does that mean that they cannot be narcissists? Or sociopaths?
Being on the spectrum doesn't rule out other disorders...like narcissism, OCD, bi-polar, borderline, schizotypal, or schizoid.
Having one does not eliminate the other.
I would say that that is very obviously the case.....
The case of what?
That having autistic traits does not disqualify you from being a narcissist or a sociopath.
There may have been an intentional iota of snark in my comment. You be the judge.
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You be the judge.
Okay. I think you've been armchair diagnosing Sir Les, but wont come right out and say it.
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Isn't autism a spectrum rather than a binary condition?
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You be the judge.
Okay. I think you've been armchair diagnosing Sir Les, but wont come right out and say it.
He can armchair psychoanalyse me. He can wear his pants on his head to work. The fact he can do these things lends it no credibility simply on basis that it is possible for him to do.
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Yeah, I don't remember Les being this problematic to read back when I used to be on here.
Have to agree with a number of things. Have often over the years found Sir Les difficult to read, due to analogies and theoreticals which make me think about other things. He's verbose and ventures too far from the point, but one things true, he's always done it as long as knowing him. However do also think in recent years he's purposely made the entire board unpleasant spreading arguments around, focused on one thing at the expense of others, and that's something he didn't do in the past. This is what upsets me, so thinking maybe also others.
Talking about you in third person, Sir Les, but thinking it's nothing I haven't said directly to you before.
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Isn't autism a spectrum rather than a binary condition?
From my understanding, certain personality disorders must first be rules out for an autism diagnosis to be given, and if a personality disorder is present, then it's regarded and treated as primary diagnosis. Haven't read the DSMIV so could stand corrected on that.
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Isn't autism a spectrum rather than a binary condition?
From my understanding, certain personality disorders must first be rules out for an autism diagnosis to be given, and if a personality disorder is present, then it's regarded and treated as primary diagnosis. Haven't read the DSMIV so could stand corrected on that.
Yup, true for DSMIV. I think you need to rule out at least schizophrenia and probably some others. I *think* DSMV changes this a bit since it redefines autism as a spectrum and removes distinct disorders such as AS.
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Yeah, I don't remember Les being this problematic to read back when I used to be on here.
Have to agree with a number of things. Have often over the years found Sir Les difficult to read, due to analogies and theoreticals which make me think about other things. He's verbose and ventures too far from the point, but one things true, he's always done it as long as knowing him. However do also think in recent years he's purposely made the entire board unpleasant spreading arguments around, focused on one thing at the expense of others, and that's something he didn't do in the past. This is what upsets me, so thinking maybe also others.
Talking about you in third person, Sir Les, but thinking it's nothing I haven't said directly to you before.
No, and I think that is all fairly presented
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You be the judge.
Okay. I think you've been armchair diagnosing Sir Les, but wont come right out and say it.
That would be a fair assessment.
Form opinion. Share information that may lead others to the same opinion (if they weren't already there). Boldly stating an opinion and expecting others to share it is sometimes less effective.
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You be the judge.
Okay. I think you've been armchair diagnosing Sir Les, but wont come right out and say it.
That would be a fair assessment.
Form opinion. Share information that may lead others to the same opinion (if they weren't already there). Boldly stating an opinion and expecting others to share it is sometimes less effective.
Effective at.what exactly?
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Effective at leading people to the truth. To the elephant in the room that may appear to have slipped their notice.
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You be the judge.
Okay. I think you've been armchair diagnosing Sir Les, but wont come right out and say it.
That would be a fair assessment.
Form opinion. Share information that may lead others to the same opinion (if they weren't already there). Boldly stating an opinion and expecting others to share it is sometimes less effective.
Personally think autistics get too much of that sort of crap. Though thanks for the clarification; haven't previously struck as the passive aggressive type. That's a big bush to beat around.
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You be the judge.
Okay. I think you've been armchair diagnosing Sir Les, but wont come right out and say it.
That would be a fair assessment.
Form opinion. Share information that may lead others to the same opinion (if they weren't already there). Boldly stating an opinion and expecting others to share it is sometimes less effective.
Personally think autistics get too much of that sort of crap. Though thanks for the clarification; haven't previously struck as the passive aggressive type. That's a big bush to beat around.
Armchair diagnosing Al is a big bush?
Also if I were genuinely passive aggressive by nature I wouldn't spell out exactly what I'm doing. Or maybe I would?
Look, it obviously hasn't led you to the same opinion as me, and that's fine. I'm not trying to make you think like me, just giving you the opportunity. Big difference.
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Effective at leading people to the truth. To the elephant in the room that may appear to have slipped their notice.
Very Regina George of you there. This is not AFF and that kind of passive aggressive bs wont take you as far here
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Effective at leading people to the truth. To the elephant in the room that may appear to have slipped their notice.
Very Regina George of you there. This is not AFF and that kind of passive aggressive bs wont take you as far here
Hello elephant!
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You be the judge.
Okay. I think you've been armchair diagnosing Sir Les, but wont come right out and say it.
That would be a fair assessment.
Form opinion. Share information that may lead others to the same opinion (if they weren't already there). Boldly stating an opinion and expecting others to share it is sometimes less effective.
Personally think autistics get too much of that sort of crap. Though thanks for the clarification; haven't previously struck as the passive aggressive type. That's a big bush to beat around.
Armchair diagnosing Al is a big bush?
Also if I were genuinely passive aggressive by nature I wouldn't spell out exactly what I'm doing. Or maybe I would?
Look, it obviously hasn't led you to the same opinion as me, and that's fine. I'm not trying to make you think like me, just giving you the opportunity. Big difference.
Oh, but do like you. Like you a lot; see you as a valuable contributor to the forum, and personally credit and pride myself for inspiring your return. It's been enjoyable to have someone of your caliber of intellect and challenge to converse. Yes, do think calling someone something as serious a narcissist is something to be direct about. It's a big bush. Don't think you're passive aggressive, that's the thing, which is the only reason I pressed you to come on out with it.
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Effective at leading people to the truth. To the elephant in the room that may appear to have slipped their notice.
Very Regina George of you there. This is not AFF and that kind of passive aggressive bs wont take you as far here
Hello elephant!
G'Day you Goofy Mother Fucker. How is your narrative going?
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You be the judge.
Okay. I think you've been armchair diagnosing Sir Les, but wont come right out and say it.
That would be a fair assessment.
Form opinion. Share information that may lead others to the same opinion (if they weren't already there). Boldly stating an opinion and expecting others to share it is sometimes less effective.
Personally think autistics get too much of that sort of crap. Though thanks for the clarification; haven't previously struck as the passive aggressive type. That's a big bush to beat around.
Armchair diagnosing Al is a big bush?
Also if I were genuinely passive aggressive by nature I wouldn't spell out exactly what I'm doing. Or maybe I would?
Look, it obviously hasn't led you to the same opinion as me, and that's fine. I'm not trying to make you think like me, just giving you the opportunity. Big difference.
Oh, but do like you. Like you a lot; see you as a valuable contributor to the forum, and personally credit and pride myself for inspiring your return. It's been enjoyable to have someone of your caliber of intellect and challenge to converse. Yes, do think calling someone something as serious a narcissist is something to be direct about. It's a big bush. Don't think you're passive aggressive, that's the thing, which is the only reason I pressed you to come on out with it.
Thanks Jack. Actually I suspect that I'm a fairly complex character and given to self-reflection a lot. I don't mind being called out for passive aggressive behaviour as it's good to know how I'm coming across. I'm also not that much of an intellectual: my job involves explaining often complex things and presenting them in simple terms to a broad audience. I'm also good at googling, so sometimes I will see something that strikes me as interesting and 10 minutes later I'm an armchair expert.
Unfortunately I've had to deal with far too many bombastic, narcissistic, obnoxious, overbearing, borderline sociopathic individuals in my life, and from a very early age. And I've developed a certain style when it comes to interacting with them. And that style could be fairly described as passive-aggressive. Mostly these days I find them entertaining unless they are my boss or something.
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MOSW, just realized you said 'make you think like me', not 'make you like me'. :laugh:
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You be the judge.
Okay. I think you've been armchair diagnosing Sir Les, but wont come right out and say it.
That would be a fair assessment.
Form opinion. Share information that may lead others to the same opinion (if they weren't already there). Boldly stating an opinion and expecting others to share it is sometimes less effective.
Personally think autistics get too much of that sort of crap. Though thanks for the clarification; haven't previously struck as the passive aggressive type. That's a big bush to beat around.
Armchair diagnosing Al is a big bush?
Also if I were genuinely passive aggressive by nature I wouldn't spell out exactly what I'm doing. Or maybe I would?
Look, it obviously hasn't led you to the same opinion as me, and that's fine. I'm not trying to make you think like me, just giving you the opportunity. Big difference.
Oh, but do like you. Like you a lot; see you as a valuable contributor to the forum, and personally credit and pride myself for inspiring your return. It's been enjoyable to have someone of your caliber of intellect and challenge to converse. Yes, do think calling someone something as serious a narcissist is something to be direct about. It's a big bush. Don't think you're passive aggressive, that's the thing, which is the only reason I pressed you to come on out with it.
Thanks Jack. Actually I suspect that I'm a fairly complex character and given to self-reflection a lot. I don't mind being called out for passive aggressive behaviour as it's good to know how I'm coming across. I'm also not that much of an intellectual: my job involves explaining often complex things and presenting them in simple terms to a broad audience. I'm also good at googling, so sometimes I will see something that strikes me as interesting and 10 minutes later I'm an armchair expert.
Unfortunately I've had to deal with far too many bombastic, narcissistic, obnoxious, overbearing, borderline sociopathic individuals in my life, and from a very early age. And I've developed a certain style when it comes to interacting with them. And that style could be fairly described as passive-aggressive. Mostly these days I find them entertaining unless they are my boss or something.
Was think before or after you started channeling Regina George?
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MOSW, just realized you said 'make you think like me', not 'make you like me'. :laugh:
LOL. Your reply still gave me a warm and fuzzy feeling. I always got the impression that you didn't dislike me.
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Was think before or after you started channeling Regina George?
Your replies are getting shorter but I still have no idea WTF this means.
Normally when posts don't make sense I blame auto correct. Please tell me it's auto correct.
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I'm related to the Minnesota University Mascot, but Goldy claims he doesn't know me. :zoinks:
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHAf7KWpJJj32FoJFHXrSmMtB-VFPU_qpLe4mowoAVjpFHV9Jc)
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Wrong thread rodent!
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I blame Al's dyslexia. :zoinks:
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Can we STOP talking about Les' genital hair?
I think I get how this game is played now.
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Was think before or after you started channeling Regina George?
Your replies are getting shorter but I still have no idea WTF this means.
Normally when posts don't make sense I blame auto correct. Please tell me it's auto correct.
One of the cult movies for and about teenaged girls is a movie called Mean Girls. The bitchiest, most manipulative, paasive aggressive amoung the characters was a girl called Regina George. Her catty begaviour is like yours.
Doesn't mean you are Psychologically challenged but channeling Regina George is kind of sad and pathethic for a middle aged man.
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Yep.
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Can we STOP talking about Les' genital hair?
I think I get how this game is played now.
OMG I win!! :GA:
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Dunno. Never watched Mean Girls. Maybe we should Netflix and chill and watch it together some time?
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Dunno. Never watched Mean Girls. Maybe we should Netflix and chill and watch it together some time?
You don't have to. I'm making a observation as to your behaviour, which is strikingly similar to the bitchy machinations of a mean girl. Can understand it from IQ.
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Can we STOP talking about Les' genital hair?
I think I get how this game is played now.
OMG I win!! :GA:
:hadron: :roses:
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(https://i.imgur.com/CVbqdwn.jpg)
Interesting..
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Is anyone here feeling deflated, bewildered and confused, while being made out to be an abuser?
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(https://i.imgur.com/CVbqdwn.jpg)
Interesting..
Yes, yes, and Autistic people tend to be very good actors and actresses due to both heightened social abilities and proficiency in theory of mind
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Is anyone here feeling deflated, bewildered and confused, while being made out to be an abuser?
You know how to play too. :zoinks:
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I am being made out to be an abuser, as are IceQueen and Odeon.
I think all 3 of us are less vulnerable to such narcissistic word salad because (1) we can't be arsed reading it, and (2) we know what to expect.
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But do you feel deflated and bewildered by it?
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But do you feel deflated and bewildered by it?
The point of the behaviour - the avalanche of words, the insults, the accusations, the morally superior tone, is to make a target feel deflated and bewildered.
The fact that I am not actually deflated and bewildered by it doesn't alter the pattern of behaviour. I am not vulnerable because I am aware of the pattern and intent of the behaviour that is directed at me. I hope that others have found this thread a useful tool in coping with such behaviour.
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But do you feel deflated and bewildered by it?
The point of the behaviour - the avalanche of words, the insults, the accusations, the morally superior tone, is to make a target feel deflated and bewildered.
The fact that I am not actually deflated and bewildered by it doesn't alter the pattern of behaviour. I am not vulnerable because I am aware of the pattern and intent of the behaviour that is directed at me. I hope that others have found this thread a useful tool in coping with such behaviour.
You do get that this is NOT AFF.. It is not a support forum.
You get too that you are no more a mindreader than you are a psychologist and that your efforts not too share what you want people to think about me, but to try to push that ideology is not based out of sharing or morality?
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But do you feel deflated and bewildered by it?
The point of the behaviour - the avalanche of words, the insults, the accusations, the morally superior tone, is to make a target feel deflated and bewildered.
The fact that I am not actually deflated and bewildered by it doesn't alter the pattern of behaviour. I am not vulnerable because I am aware of the pattern and intent of the behaviour that is directed at me. I hope that others have found this thread a useful tool in coping with such behaviour.
You do get that this is NOT AFF.. It is not a support forum.
You get too that you are no more a mindreader than you are a psychologist and that your efforts not too share what you want people to think about me, but to try to push that ideology is not based out of sharing or morality?
Yes I do.
And I can call you out on being the low-life hypocrite that you are.
And I can share whatever information I want.
I understand perfectly.
Funny how you tell me I'm not a mind reader. I'm not trying to read your mind, I'm simply aware of your behaviour and if I can share information that helps others to be aware of your behaviour... it's all good.
You are the one who tells me what I'm thinking and who starts threads that provide insight into the thought processes of others. You are the one who claims to be a mind reader. Hypocrite.
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The point of the behaviour - the avalanche of words, the insults, the accusations, the morally superior tone, is to make a target feel deflated and bewildered.
Odd. I had assumed it was to evoke pity.
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The point of the behaviour - the avalanche of words, the insults, the accusations, the morally superior tone, is to make a target feel deflated and bewildered.
Odd. I had assumed it was to evoke pity.
A reasonable assessment as MOSW, IQ and Odeon tend to conflate multiple intentions that are sometimes at odds with each other.
At some point it needs to be questioned which narrative is correct.OR come to the conclusion they are metaphorically throwing everything at the wall without regard to honesty, to see what will stick
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But do you feel deflated and bewildered by it?
The point of the behaviour - the avalanche of words, the insults, the accusations, the morally superior tone, is to make a target feel deflated and bewildered.
The fact that I am not actually deflated and bewildered by it doesn't alter the pattern of behaviour. I am not vulnerable because I am aware of the pattern and intent of the behaviour that is directed at me. I hope that others have found this thread a useful tool in coping with such behaviour.
It's both helpful and entertaining.
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But do you feel deflated and bewildered by it?
The point of the behaviour - the avalanche of words, the insults, the accusations, the morally superior tone, is to make a target feel deflated and bewildered.
The fact that I am not actually deflated and bewildered by it doesn't alter the pattern of behaviour. I am not vulnerable because I am aware of the pattern and intent of the behaviour that is directed at me. I hope that others have found this thread a useful tool in coping with such behaviour.
You do get that this is NOT AFF.. It is not a support forum.
You get too that you are no more a mindreader than you are a psychologist and that your efforts not too share what you want people to think about me, but to try to push that ideology is not based out of sharing or morality?
Yes I do.
And I can call you out on being the low-life hypocrite that you are.
And I can share whatever information I want.
I understand perfectly.
Funny how you tell me I'm not a mind reader. I'm not trying to read your mind, I'm simply aware of your behaviour and if I can share information that helps others to be aware of your behaviour... it's all good.
You are the one who tells me what I'm thinking and who starts threads that provide insight into the thought processes of others. You are the one who claims to be a mind reader. Hypocrite.
Indeed you can make any assertion you like bit it will still not make this a support forum. You can push any ideological position but if you pretend you were simply sharing it, you will get exposed. If you are a lying little sycophant your slimy little intrigues will get exposed and you efforts at extending an opinion or narrative as fact will demand it is backed.
You are a paper tiger, you Goofy Mother Fucker
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I notice that you back your assertion with walls of largely indecipherable gobbledygook. It is difficult to point out the flaws in your reasoning and the holes in your evidence when it's near impossible to work out what the fuck you are saying most of the time.
And you will notice that I have shared information. Sharing information is not an assertion shit-for-brains. Slimy little intrigues? What the fuck are you talking about? For anyone apart from the odd flying monkey who has fallen for your bullshit butthurt monologues and twisted versions of reality, you sound addled.
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I notice that you back your assertion with walls of largely indecipherable gobbledygook. It is difficult to point out the flaws in your reasoning and the holes in your evidence when it's near impossible to work out what the fuck you are saying most of the time.
And you will notice that I have shared information. Sharing information is not an assertion shit-for-brains. Slimy little intrigues? What the fuck are you talking about? For anyone apart from the odd flying monkey who has fallen for your bullshit butthurt monologues and twisted versions of reality, you sound addled.
I never stated you had the intellectual goods to attempt such an objective. Don't pester me about your shortcomings
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Is anyone here feeling deflated, bewildered and confused, while being made out to be an abuser?
It was late and it was the best I could find ATM pertaining to the "victim" mentally (poor me) that comes with NPD.
This usually applies more to relationships...a person normally gets involved with a narcissist because they themselves are many times lacking self-esteem. Narcissists take turns pumping you up and cutting you down. When you start calling them out on their shitty actions...the "poor me, I'm being picked on you're being mean to me" comes into play...compassion kicks in, you question your sanity and maybe your reasoning...and so the cycle repeats itself.
Personally I'm okay here in that respect at this time in my life...and pretty comfortable with who I am.
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The point of the behaviour - the avalanche of words, the insults, the accusations, the morally superior tone, is to make a target feel deflated and bewildered.
Odd. I had assumed it was to evoke pity.
A reasonable assessment as MOSW, IQ and Odeon tend to conflate multiple intentions that are sometimes at odds with each other.
At some point it needs to be questioned which narrative is correct.OR come to the conclusion they are metaphorically throwing everything at the wall without regard to honesty, to see what will stick
The piece I don't get (still) is regarding the 'agreement'. Yes, I vaguely remember this that and the other about getting
you out of herr diktator's punishment chamber (which I have lots of problems with to begin with).
Was a part of that that he never mention your spawn?
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I'm curious as to where we need to "exactly" draw the line mentioning our kids and family?
Don't ever mention the word daughter or son?
Only don't mention it to someone who we feel wants to argue with us?
Don't mention it to people if you don't know where you stand on the above?
Only mention it if someone else brings it up first?
Put both words in the swear filter just in case, one of us old farts fucks it up?
Since we seem to do it frequently, because our families ARE a big part of our lives. We share some of their trials and achievements without a second though, and others share in that...sometimes we get frustrated as parents and we vent, other's offer something helpful or vent along with us.
My understanding was we don't bring them into arguments as tools to use against us, use them as weapons, or in other harmful derogatory ways. Basically: Keep it personal.
I honestly did not see that from the get go on this...I saw an off hand remark asking someone to reflect on their personal life experience, and would that, or would that not...change things?
Parents ask other parents this all the time...we ask to gain reflection from politicians, doctors, our parents, parents of kids like ours...sometimes to understand their viewpoint, sometimes in an attempt for them to understand ours.
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That's what I thought I did. Al obviously disagrees.
Thing is, I don't know what he is like as a parent, but from what I've read, he loves his daughter and would do pretty much anything for her. I respect that and have no reason whatsoever to doubt it. I have a daughter, too, and so that, I've thought in the past, is common ground.
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Is anyone here feeling deflated, bewildered and confused, while being made out to be an abuser?
It was late and it was the best I could find ATM pertaining to the "victim" mentally (poor me) that comes with NPD.
This usually applies more to relationships...a person normally gets involved with a narcissist because they themselves are many times lacking self-esteem. Narcissists take turns pumping you up and cutting you down. When you start calling them out on their shitty actions...the "poor me, I'm being picked on you're being mean to me" comes into play...compassion kicks in, you question your sanity and maybe your reasoning...and so the cycle repeats itself.
Personally I'm okay here in that respect at this time in my life...and pretty comfortable with who I am.
As are we all. None of us are likely in relationships person with NPD and I have yet to see anyone on this board say "poor me, poor me" about anything.
Looks suspiciously to me like you are talking out of your arse
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You're not in a relationship, are you?
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You're not in a relationship, are you?
Are ANY of us in relationships with people with NPD? I don't think so
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You're not in a relationship, are you?
Are ANY of us in relationships with people with NPD? I don't think so
You do love yourself, though.
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Was that a joke?
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Was that a joke?
Not really, no.
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I'm curious as to where we need to "exactly" draw the line mentioning our kids and family?
Don't ever mention the word daughter or son?
Only don't mention it to someone who we feel wants to argue with us?
Don't mention it to people if you don't know where you stand on the above?
Only mention it if someone else brings it up first?
Put both words in the swear filter just in case, one of us old farts fucks it up?
Since we seem to do it frequently, because our families ARE a big part of our lives. We share some of their trials and achievements without a second though, and others share in that...sometimes we get frustrated as parents and we vent, other's offer something helpful or vent along with us.
My understanding was we don't bring them into arguments as tools to use against us, use them as weapons, or in other harmful derogatory ways. Basically: Keep it personal.
I honestly did not see that from the get go on this...I saw an off hand remark asking someone to reflect on their personal life experience, and would that, or would that not...change things?
Parents ask other parents this all the time...we ask to gain reflection from politicians, doctors, our parents, parents of kids like ours...sometimes to understand their viewpoint, sometimes in an attempt for them to understand ours.
That's what I thought I did. Al obviously disagrees.
Thing is, I don't know what he is like as a parent, but from what I've read, he loves his daughter and would do pretty much anything for her. I respect that and have no reason whatsoever to doubt it. I have a daughter, too, and so that, I've thought in the past, is common ground.
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Think those might be too developed for him.
But I'm sure he'll clarify any day now.
Who has posted the most nude or semi-nude pictures of women on here and.have the majority of the breasts of these women been developed?
What are the answers and do they support your assertion above?
I don't think you do understand, actually. You can't simply agree with me, these days, so you choose to be intellectually dishonest yourself. You know perfectly well it wasn't about the boob size but wanting Scrap to clarify his earlier comments was and remains out of the question for you since it's me reminding him.
Cowardly and disappointing (I seem to recall you have a daughter) but not unexpected. :thumbdn:
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Yes It is more than clear you were not sharing mutual societal roles or bonding over mutual parental roles.
You were upset that I had given a very tame rebuke to a ridiculous assertion you made at Scrap. It was ridiculous by any logic. But because I did that you got angry enough to be insidious. I was rejecting an assertion you made at Scrap which in your mind was defending his character in general, and therefore defending in addition to what I was pointing out was ridiculous, everything else you had said about him regardless of whether or not I had said a damn thing on any of those positions.
You were sharing mutual societal roles or bonding over mutual parental roles you were attacking me and you were using my daughter in this process. You were effectively saying.
"What you have just said is cowardly and disappointing BECAUSE you have a daughter and BECAUSE you have a daughter you ought to share my opinion and NOT state opinions that you have BECAUSE a Father ought to behave in a "better" manner AND not doing so devalues your role (and thus your parenting ability) as a Father.
No I get it. It WAS personal. I know why you said it. I know where it comes from. It was just wrong, ill-advised and broke a truce Py and others fought for. You DO NOT EVER use MY daughter to attack me and I do not give a damn your justifications.
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....or 2 + 2 = 156.
WTF. :facepalm2:
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....or 2 + 2 = 156.
WTF. :facepalm2:
For you to post what you just did means you are either deliberately dishonest or actually stupid.
No alternate situation.
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....or 2 + 2 = 156.
WTF. :facepalm2:
For you to post what you just did means you are either deliberately dishonest or actually stupid.
No alternate situation.
I wouldn't agree. Everyone has mental blind spots and it's entirely reasonable that odeot's antics fall within IQ's mental blind spot.
Even highly intelligent people can have these blind spots, I saw it with a former boss who was exceptionally smart, but easily manipulated by a particular person.
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I'm an aspie on a forum full of other aspies, I don't see your "implied meaning" and like a few others I probably never will Al. :laugh:
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I'm an aspie on a forum full of other aspies, I don't see your "implied meaning" and like a few others I probably never will Al. :laugh:
Nope. If I said the sky is blue and Odeon said it was red, you would argue for Odeon's position and denounce mine. You are exactly the same kind of dyed in the wool ideologue that if Trump ....I dunno..... helped denuclearise the Korean Peninsula, you would accuse him of cozying up to Kim Yong Un and dismiss anything he did to make that denuclearisation possible.
It is nothing to do with fact or truth even when transparently obvious. Again, it is because you are an ideologue NOT because you are an aspie. You are either deliberately dishonest or actually stupid
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Fuck off Al.
Believe whatever makes you happy.
I say what I mean, and mean what I say, and I enjoy it when others can do the same. Life's too short for endless games of mind fuck.
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Fuck off Al.
Believe whatever makes you happy.
I say what I mean, and mean what I say, and I enjoy it when others can do the same. Life's too short for endless games of mind fuck.
Stupid it is then
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Is anyone here feeling deflated, bewildered and confused, while being made out to be an abuser?
It was late and it was the best I could find ATM pertaining to the "victim" mentally (poor me) that comes with NPD.
This usually applies more to relationships...a person normally gets involved with a narcissist because they themselves are many times lacking self-esteem. Narcissists take turns pumping you up and cutting you down. When you start calling them out on their shitty actions...the "poor me, I'm being picked on you're being mean to me" comes into play...compassion kicks in, you question your sanity and maybe your reasoning...and so the cycle repeats itself.
Yeah... I've been there, a long time ago. What Al's doing on the forum, while hella annoying, doesn't seem to be the same type of psychologically manipulative behavior, nor is it producing victims, just angry and hostile people.
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That's what I thought I did. Al obviously disagrees.
Thing is, I don't know what he is like as a parent, but from what I've read, he loves his daughter and would do pretty much anything for her. I respect that and have no reason whatsoever to doubt it. I have a daughter, too, and so that, I've thought in the past, is common ground.
But you and Al don't have the history of goodwill which needs to back up a comment like that.
To me it seems intuitively obvious that given the hate between you two, it wouldn't be taken in good faith. I mean you called him cowardly and dishonest in the same breath. That's not looking for common ground. Granted what's intuitive to me is not going to be so for others. It did seem like you were trying to score internet points against Scrap by invoking Al's fatherhood as well.
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Is anyone here feeling deflated, bewildered and confused, while being made out to be an abuser?
It was late and it was the best I could find ATM pertaining to the "victim" mentally (poor me) that comes with NPD.
This usually applies more to relationships...a person normally gets involved with a narcissist because they themselves are many times lacking self-esteem. Narcissists take turns pumping you up and cutting you down. When you start calling them out on their shitty actions...the "poor me, I'm being picked on you're being mean to me" comes into play...compassion kicks in, you question your sanity and maybe your reasoning...and so the cycle repeats itself.
Yeah... I've been there, a long time ago. What Al's doing on the forum, while hella annoying, doesn't seem to be the same type of psychologically manipulative behavior, nor is it producing victims, just angry and hostile people.
I am quite okay with angry.
Odeon drags my daughter unnecessarily into a conversation to be insidious and attack me, he can be as annoyed and angry as he likes.
Others defend Odeons behaviour and insult my reaction to him getting that personal? Fine, they can be as angry.and annoyed as they like.
I do not at all feel bad. This comes down to choices. Bad choices bad consequences.
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That's what I thought I did. Al obviously disagrees.
Thing is, I don't know what he is like as a parent, but from what I've read, he loves his daughter and would do pretty much anything for her. I respect that and have no reason whatsoever to doubt it. I have a daughter, too, and so that, I've thought in the past, is common ground.
But you and Al don't have the history of goodwill which needs to back up a comment like that.
To me it seems intuitively obvious that given the hate between you two, it wouldn't be taken in good faith. Granted what's intuitive to me is not going to be so for others. It did seem like you were trying to score internet points against Scrap by invoking Al's fatherhood as well.
He is being deliberately disingenuous.
He can his hands in the cookie jar and is proclaiming that he was honestly feeling the texture of the glass inside of the jar.
Deny, deny, deny.
We have the exact context. We know what I said and what I didn't. Odeon did what he did in context and with deliberate intent. The fact he doesn't want to own it should be a surprise to no-one
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That's what I thought I did. Al obviously disagrees.
Thing is, I don't know what he is like as a parent, but from what I've read, he loves his daughter and would do pretty much anything for her. I respect that and have no reason whatsoever to doubt it. I have a daughter, too, and so that, I've thought in the past, is common ground.
But you and Al don't have the history of goodwill which needs to back up a comment like that.
To me it seems intuitively obvious that given the hate between you two, it wouldn't be taken in good faith. I mean you called him cowardly and dishonest in the same breath. That's not looking for common ground. Granted what's intuitive to me is not going to be so for others. It did seem like you were trying to score internet points against Scrap by invoking Al's fatherhood as well.
And WHAT precisely is wrong with this?
The site is filled with folk spewing against one another, and always has been.
And it USED to be just peachy to allow it to flow into other threads.
Let the games begin again!
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That's what I thought I did. Al obviously disagrees.
Thing is, I don't know what he is like as a parent, but from what I've read, he loves his daughter and would do pretty much anything for her. I respect that and have no reason whatsoever to doubt it. I have a daughter, too, and so that, I've thought in the past, is common ground.
But you and Al don't have the history of goodwill which needs to back up a comment like that.
To me it seems intuitively obvious that given the hate between you two, it wouldn't be taken in good faith. I mean you called him cowardly and dishonest in the same breath. That's not looking for common ground. Granted what's intuitive to me is not going to be so for others. It did seem like you were trying to score internet points against Scrap by invoking Al's fatherhood as well.
And WHAT precisely is wrong with this?
The site is filled with folk spewing against one another, and always has been.
And it USED to be just peachy to allow it to flow into other threads.
Let the games begin again!
I am fine with this. We had a truce to prevent this. Odeon broke the truce, all good for me
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Agree with Al, angry is good and it's actually pretty entertaining. If you don't like angry, butthurt people saying mean things to each other then it's a big internet with plenty of safe spaces.
Sometimes I do wonder if Al has trained a monkey to hit random keys for hours on end. Not sure if he's rewarding that monkey with bananas or something less holy.
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I'm curious as to where we need to "exactly" draw the line mentioning our kids and family?
Don't ever mention the word daughter or son?
Only don't mention it to someone who we feel wants to argue with us?
Don't mention it to people if you don't know where you stand on the above?
Only mention it if someone else brings it up first?
Put both words in the swear filter just in case, one of us old farts fucks it up?
Since we seem to do it frequently, because our families ARE a big part of our lives. We share some of their trials and achievements without a second though, and others share in that...sometimes we get frustrated as parents and we vent, other's offer something helpful or vent along with us.
My understanding was we don't bring them into arguments as tools to use against us, use them as weapons, or in other harmful derogatory ways. Basically: Keep it personal.
I honestly did not see that from the get go on this...I saw an off hand remark asking someone to reflect on their personal life experience, and would that, or would that not...change things?
Parents ask other parents this all the time...we ask to gain reflection from politicians, doctors, our parents, parents of kids like ours...sometimes to understand their viewpoint, sometimes in an attempt for them to understand ours.
I think your understanding is accurate.
Don't ever mention the word daughter or son?
Stupid.
Only don't mention it to someone who we feel wants to argue with us?
Hopefully common sense.
Don't mention it to people if you don't know where you stand on the above?
Or just know if you do mention it, it might be taken wrong.
Only mention it if someone else brings it up first?
Depends whose family you're talking about?
Put both words in the swear filter just in case, one of us old farts fucks it up?
LOL I hope that's not necessary.
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That's what I thought I did. Al obviously disagrees.
Thing is, I don't know what he is like as a parent, but from what I've read, he loves his daughter and would do pretty much anything for her. I respect that and have no reason whatsoever to doubt it. I have a daughter, too, and so that, I've thought in the past, is common ground.
But you and Al don't have the history of goodwill which needs to back up a comment like that.
To me it seems intuitively obvious that given the hate between you two, it wouldn't be taken in good faith. I mean you called him cowardly and dishonest in the same breath. That's not looking for common ground. Granted what's intuitive to me is not going to be so for others. It did seem like you were trying to score internet points against Scrap by invoking Al's fatherhood as well.
I wasn't *looking for* common ground, I simply pointed it out. As for "scoring internet points", I don't even know what that is supposed to mean. You're overanalysing.
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Agree with Al, angry is good and it's actually pretty entertaining. If you don't like angry, butthurt people saying mean things to each other then it's a big internet with plenty of safe spaces.
Sometimes I do wonder if Al has trained a monkey to hit random keys for hours on end. Not sure if he's rewarding that monkey with bananas or something less holy.
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That's what I thought I did. Al obviously disagrees.
Thing is, I don't know what he is like as a parent, but from what I've read, he loves his daughter and would do pretty much anything for her. I respect that and have no reason whatsoever to doubt it. I have a daughter, too, and so that, I've thought in the past, is common ground.
But you and Al don't have the history of goodwill which needs to back up a comment like that.
To me it seems intuitively obvious that given the hate between you two, it wouldn't be taken in good faith. I mean you called him cowardly and dishonest in the same breath. That's not looking for common ground. Granted what's intuitive to me is not going to be so for others. It did seem like you were trying to score internet points against Scrap by invoking Al's fatherhood as well.
I wasn't *looking for* common ground, I simply pointed it out. As for "scoring internet points", I don't even know what that is supposed to mean. You're overanalysing.
That is the most stupid narrative yet. No one buys that. I think even your buttplug Minister of Silly Walks would have a hard time backing that.
So you were insulting me and suddenly a reference to my Fatherhood and my daughter pops on the next sentence COMPLETELY without contextualisation and reference to anything that was said immediately prior to. You just thought you would remind me that you remember I had a daughter.
BULLSHIT!
It is by far the worst narrative to date.
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As for "scoring internet points", I don't even know what that is supposed to mean. You're overanalysing.
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#5 and #1.
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I wasn't *looking for* common ground, I simply pointed it out. As for "scoring internet points", I don't even know what that is supposed to mean. You're overanalysing.
I don't think I am.
Whether it was a flippant comment from your perspective doesn't matter. It doesn't change how simple it would have been to back off when you saw you'd crossed a line.
Do I really have to spell out for you what scoring internet points might mean?
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I wasn't *looking for* common ground, I simply pointed it out. As for "scoring internet points", I don't even know what that is supposed to mean. You're overanalysing.
I don't think I am.
Whether it was a flippant comment from your perspective doesn't matter. It doesn't change how simple it would have been to back off when you saw you'd crossed a line.
Do I really have to spell out for you what scoring internet points might mean?
In this case, yes. It's fairly obvious that you don't see my pov at all
But better yet, don't bother. This is a tempest in a teapot.
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Good. I'd rather not.
Yet another theory-of-mind thing, huh? It doesn't matter whether I agree with you or not either. The point is that different people interpret things different ways.
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Good. I'd rather not.
Yet another theory-of-mind thing, huh? It doesn't matter whether I agree with you or not either. The point is that different people interpret things different ways.
What IS fairly obvious is that Odeon has got behind the position that questioning other people's parenting, bring their children into premises to attack them and so on is a tempest in a teapot.
Whilst he has roundly.condemned and moderated others in the past, he is endorsing it now. I am not the only parent on here and I can adapt to these new rules
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Whilst he has roundly.condemned and moderated others in the past
Condemning is one thing. You're free to continue your little crusade too.
Abusing the admin position, if it happens again, has one and only one solution. And that's for everyone to
get the hell out of dodge again. This place loses everything it stands for when the staff acts like petty dictators.
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Good. I'd rather not.
Yet another theory-of-mind thing, huh? It doesn't matter whether I agree with you or not either. The point is that different people interpret things different ways.
What IS fairly obvious is that Odeon has got behind the position that questioning other people's parenting, bring their children into premises to attack them and so on is a tempest in a teapot.
Whilst he has roundly.condemned and moderated others in the past, he is endorsing it now. I am not the only parent on here and I can adapt to these new rules
So the new rule appears to be that you can ask people to consider something from the point of view of a parent. Or a son. Or a husband/wife. I can also adapt to this new rule.
You already appear to have unilaterally adopted a rule where you can insult people's family members and imply inappropriate and illegal relationships with them. You are a hypocrite of the highest order.
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A long time ago I would have loved to get into a knock-down, drag-out with Callaway about parenting. But I held my tongue, because of the precedent about keeping people's families out of things, even when others were trying to goad us into it.
I also recognized that it would have gotten real ugly, real fast.
If the precedent is changing, I hope Odeon doesn't whine and complain when somebody eventually turns it round on him.
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Would now be a good time for me to ask odeot's daughter out on a date?? :autism:
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A long time ago I would have loved to get into a knock-down, drag-out with Callaway about parenting. But I held my tongue, because of the precedent about keeping people's families out of things, even when others were trying to goad us into it.
I also recognized that it would have gotten real ugly, real fast.
If the precedent is changing, I hope Odeon doesn't whine and complain when somebody eventually turns it round on him.
Of course he will. He will do as he did with Vodzy way back when.
He will reframe it. He cares for his own brood and not for mine so he does not care. That has always been Odeon.
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Is anyone here feeling deflated, bewildered and confused, while being made out to be an abuser?
btw, do you still read tarot cards and stuff?
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Speaking of word salad, listen to this dummy, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Every question she gets asked is answered with a word salad of platitudes and clichés.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi027dnubxc
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Funny. She has a very male voice, from my sampling of that video.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2xv4fba65U
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^^^ I wouldn't say that's so much word salad as it is Tomi not doing a good job of addressing points directly and instead goes off on tangents because she's addressing points made by other leftists and not Trevor.
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Speaking of word salad, listen to this dummy, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Every question she gets asked is answered with a word salad of platitudes and clichés.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi027dnubxc
Way too much talking cow.