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Title: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on November 30, 2008, 06:59:18 AM
Karl XII of Sweden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_XII_of_Sweden) was killed in the siege of the fortress Fredriksten in Norway exactly 290 years ago today.

He was the last really

BRAVE

King of Sweden! Long live his memory!  :arrr:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Mr Smith on November 30, 2008, 07:45:34 AM
 :orly:
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Post by: Frolic_Fun on November 30, 2008, 10:06:14 AM
Hahahahahaha.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on November 30, 2008, 10:09:55 AM
The Russians would have eaten you alive if you'd been around then, fatty.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Parts on November 30, 2008, 01:15:57 PM
Smart too evidently
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on November 30, 2008, 03:13:17 PM
Yup, he was very intelligent. And among the theories about his personality it's also presumed that he was an Aspie.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on November 30, 2008, 03:31:15 PM
And a map of the brave Swedish Empire in 1658; area about 1 million km2; greater than Austria-Hungary for instance.  :arrr:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/LocationSwedishEmpire.png)
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on November 30, 2008, 03:37:16 PM
this one's quite BRAVE:

(http://dancinggecko.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/swede.jpg)

this one's very PRETTY :drool: :

(http://www.ruggedelegantliving.com/a/images/Kaj.Zackrisson.skier.Swede.jpg)

and this one's not so much BRAVE as RECKLESS (and sicky).

(http://www.guntherfans.com/pictures/full/gunther1.jpg)

and if you want a really good look at sweden's greatest export, go here (http://www.gunthernet.com/), and prepare for moist panties.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on November 30, 2008, 03:38:22 PM
That's not brave.  :grrr:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on November 30, 2008, 03:40:17 PM
which one?

anyway, i did say that only one of them was quite BRAVE.  do pay attention.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on November 30, 2008, 03:50:19 PM
Neither is brave. Or Aryan.  >:(
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on November 30, 2008, 04:20:05 PM
Neither is brave. Or Aryan.  >:(

iranians are aryan.  oh, and as you're into etymology, the word "aryan" comes from sanskrit.

and the use of "either" when talking about three options is incorrect.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on November 30, 2008, 04:22:10 PM
Sanskrit is brave. :zoinks:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on November 30, 2008, 04:24:34 PM
Sanskrit is brave. :zoinks:

not it's not: it's BRAVE!

:laugh:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on November 30, 2008, 04:26:30 PM
Neither is brave. Or Aryan.  >:(

iranians are aryan.  oh, and as you're into etymology, the word "aryan" comes from sanskrit.

and the use of "either" when talking about three options is incorrect.

English is weird. Why do you have an apostrophe for expressing genitiv, for instance? At least in singular?
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Parts on November 30, 2008, 04:30:33 PM
I can't believe that Gunther guy is really a porn star :zombiefuck:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on November 30, 2008, 04:48:09 PM
Sanskrit is brave. :zoinks:

not it's not: it's BRAVE!

:laugh:

Don't you mean BRAVE? :laugh:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Frolic_Fun on November 30, 2008, 05:23:30 PM
(http://www.erillustration.com/resources/lone+warrior.jpg)

WITH THE SWORD OF TRUTH, I WILL SMITE ALL WHO OPPOSE ME!

WHY? FOR I AM LIT!
I. AM.
BRAVE!
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on November 30, 2008, 05:25:17 PM
 :agreed:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on November 30, 2008, 06:37:15 PM
Sanskrit is brave. :zoinks:

not it's not: it's BRAVE!

:laugh:

Don't you mean BRAVE? :laugh:

oh yeah, i did.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Christopher McCandless on November 30, 2008, 09:33:58 PM
Neither is brave. Or Aryan.  >:(
What's your view on Aryan Jews. I met a couple the other night...
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 01, 2008, 02:05:54 AM
 :GA:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 01, 2008, 03:38:57 PM
Jews are brave.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 02, 2008, 06:42:34 AM
Braver than you, though it doesn't take much for that.

They defended themselves in Warsaw 1943, though it was hopeless from the beginning. You'd have said to the SS: "All you need is love".
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 02, 2008, 02:45:31 PM
More importantly, Jews are braver than the cowardly Nazis.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: DirtDawg on December 02, 2008, 03:00:41 PM
Jews are brave.

True, some are indeed brave.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 02, 2008, 03:03:54 PM
At least they're usually not anti-guns, at least not in the USA or in Israel.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 02, 2008, 03:33:06 PM
Muslims are brave.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: duncvis on December 02, 2008, 03:35:03 PM
livestock in Lit's village are brave.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: DirtDawg on December 02, 2008, 03:35:51 PM
Braver than you, though it doesn't take much for that.

They defended themselves in Warsaw 1943, though it was hopeless from the beginning. You'd have said to the SS: "All you need is love".

The appropriate Lennon song to sing would surely be, "Instant Karma."

 :hahaha:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 02, 2008, 03:37:00 PM
livestock in Lit's village are brave.

No, just abused. :LMAO:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 02, 2008, 03:37:42 PM
Braver than you, though it doesn't take much for that.

They defended themselves in Warsaw 1943, though it was hopeless from the beginning. You'd have said to the SS: "All you need is love".

The appropriate Lennon song to sing would surely be, "Instant Karma."

 :hahaha:

:lol:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: duncvis on December 02, 2008, 03:38:00 PM
livestock in Lit's village are brave.

No, just abused. :LMAO:

poor slaughter sheeps.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 02, 2008, 05:06:24 PM
livestock in Lit's village are brave.

or have evolved to leg it like a bastard really, really quickly.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 02, 2008, 05:06:58 PM
livestock in Lit's village are brave.

No, just abused. :LMAO:

poor slaughter sheeps.

perhaps he's part welsh, too.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 02, 2008, 05:11:07 PM
Wales is BRAVE! Too brave to belong to self-hating England.  8)
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 02, 2008, 05:12:18 PM
Wales is BRAVE! Too brave to belong to self-hating England.  8)

did you not know i'm part welsh, lit?

that means i'm BRAVE!

:woohoo:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 02, 2008, 05:13:53 PM
You're not brave enough.  8)
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 02, 2008, 05:14:53 PM
You're not brave enough.  8)

for what?
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 02, 2008, 05:15:29 PM
For killing towelheads or vote for the BNP, for example.  8)
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: duncvis on December 02, 2008, 05:40:46 PM
voting for the BNP doesn't require bravery. Just a lobotomy.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 03, 2008, 02:31:29 AM
Do you actually think Sir Oswald Mosley was stupid? Ever heard a speech of him? He once held a speech of what the European Union would be like in the future, and he has been quite right. That speech was held in the 1950s or '60s.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 03, 2008, 02:51:54 AM
BRAVE song.  8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyekhrlonD0
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 03, 2008, 02:57:05 AM
In England Lives a Liarlord.  >:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sz6-8HHKBM
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 03, 2008, 03:16:47 AM
Brave, braver, bravest.  8)

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Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 03, 2008, 03:38:40 AM
For killing towelheads or vote for the BNP, for example.  8)

nah - i'd rather shag sheep.  they look quite fetching in jackboots, too.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 03, 2008, 04:02:43 AM
For killing towelheads or vote for the BNP, for example.  8)

nah - i'd rather shag sheep.  they look quite fetching in jackboots, too.

Don't you already?  8)
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 03, 2008, 05:38:50 AM
For killing towelheads or vote for the BNP, for example.  8)

nah - i'd rather shag sheep.  they look quite fetching in jackboots, too.

Don't you already?  8)

not on days with an "a" in them.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 03, 2008, 05:43:02 AM
Not even slaughter sheeps? "Liberals"?  8)
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 03, 2008, 06:32:35 AM
Not even slaughter sheeps? "Liberals"?  8)

liberals aren't left wing enough for me, sorry.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 03, 2008, 06:37:01 AM
Do you mean liberal or "liberal"?
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 03, 2008, 07:03:13 AM
Speaking of leftists, this definition of leftist is the best I've ever seen:

"The psychology of modern leftism

6. Almost everyone will agree that we live in a deeply troubled society. One of the most widespread manifestations of the craziness of our world is leftism, so a discussion of the psychology of leftism can serve as an introduction to the discussion of the problems of modern society in general.

7. But what is leftism? During the first half of the 20th century leftism could have been practically identified with socialism. Today the movement is fragmented and it is not clear who can properly be called a leftist. When we speak of leftists in this article we have in mind mainly socialists, collectivists, "politically correct" types, feminists, gay and disability activists, animal rights activists and the like. But not everyone who is associated with one of these movements is a leftist. What we are trying to get at in discussing leftism is not so much a movement or an ideology as a psychological type, or rather a collection of related types. Thus, what we mean by "leftism" will emerge more clearly in the course of our discussion of leftist psychology. (Also, see paragraphs 227-230.)

8. Even so, our conception of leftism will remain a good deal less clear than we would wish, but there doesn't seem to be any remedy for this. All we are trying to do is indicate in a rough and approximate way the two psychological tendencies that we believe are the main driving force of modern leftism. We by no means claim to be telling the whole truth about leftist psychology. Also, our discussion is meant to apply to modern leftism only. We leave open the question of the extent to which our discussion could be applied to the leftists of the 19th and early 20th century.

9. The two psychological tendencies that underlie modern leftism we call "feelings of inferiority" and "oversocialization." Feelings of inferiority are characteristic of modern leftism as a whole, while oversocialization is characteristic only of a certain segment of modern leftism; but this segment is highly influential.

Feelings of inferiority

10. By "feelings of inferiority" we mean not only inferiority feelings in the strict sense but a whole spectrum of related traits; low self-esteem, feelings of powerlessness, depressive tendencies, defeatism, guilt, self-hatred, etc. We argue that modern leftists tend to have some such feelings (possibly more or less repressed) and that these feelings are decisive in determining the direction of modern leftism.

11. When someone interprets as derogatory almost anything that is said about him (or about groups with whom he identifies) we conclude that he has inferiority feelings or low self-esteem. This tendency is pronounced among minority rights activists, whether or not they belong to the minority groups whose rights they defend. They are hypersensitive about the words used to designate minorities and about anything that is said concerning minorities. The terms "negro," "oriental," "handicapped" or "chick" for an African, an Asian, a disabled person or a woman originally had no derogatory connotation. "Broad" and "chick" were merely the feminine equivalents of "guy," "dude" or "fellow." The negative connotations have been attached to these terms by the activists themselves. Some animal rights activists have gone so far as to reject the word "pet" and insist on its replacement by "animal companion." Leftish anthropologists go to great lengths to avoid saying anything about primitive peoples that could conceivably be interpreted as negative. They want to replace the world "primitive" by "nonliterate." They seem almost paranoid about anything that might suggest that any primitive culture is inferior to our own. (We do not mean to imply that primitive cultures are inferior to ours. We merely point out the hypersensitivity of leftish anthropologists.)

12. Those who are most sensitive about "politically incorrect" terminology are not the average black ghetto-dweller, Asian immigrant, abused woman or disabled person, but a minority of activists, many of whom do not even belong to any "oppressed" group but come from privileged strata of society. Political correctness has its stronghold among university professors, who have secure employment with comfortable salaries, and the majority of whom are heterosexual white males from middle- to upper-middle-class families.

13. Many leftists have an intense identification with the problems of groups that have an image of being weak (women), defeated (American Indians), repellent (homosexuals) or otherwise inferior.The leftists themselves feel that these groups are inferior. They would never admit to themselves that they have such feelings, but it is precisely because they do see these groups as inferior that they identify with their problems. (We do not mean to suggest that women, Indians, etc. are inferior; we are only making a point about leftist psychology.)

14. Feminists are desperately anxious to prove that women are as strong and as capable as men. Clearly they are nagged by a fear that women may not be as strong and as capable as men.

15. Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality. The reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not correspond with their real motives. They say they hate the West because it is warlike, imperialistic, sexist, ethnocentric and so forth, but where these same faults appear in socialist countries or in primitive cultures, the leftist finds excuses for them, or at best he grudgingly admits that they exist; whereas he enthusiastically points out (and often greatly exaggerates) these faults where they appear in Western civilization. Thus it is clear that these faults are not the leftist's real motive for hating America and the West. He hates America and the West because they are strong and successful.

16. Words like "self-confidence," "self-reliance," "initiative," "enterprise," "optimism," etc., play little role in the liberal and leftist vocabulary. The leftist is anti-individualistic, pro-collectivist. He wants society to solve everyone's problems for them, satisfy everyone's needs for them, take care of them. He is not the sort of person who has an inner sense of confidence in his ability to solve his own problems and satisfy his own needs. The leftist is antagonistic to the concept of competition because, deep inside, he feels like a loser.

17. Art forms that appeal to modern leftish intellectuals tend to focus on sordidness, defeat and despair, or else they take an orgiastic tone, throwing off rational control as if there were no hope of accomplishing anything through rational calculation and all that was left was to immerse oneself in the sensations of the moment.

18. Modern leftish philosophers tend to dismiss reason, science, objective reality and to insist that everything is culturally relative. It is true that one can ask serious questions about the foundations of scientific knowledge and about how, if at all, the concept of objective reality can be defined. But it is obvious that modern leftish philosophers are not simply cool-headed logicians systematically analyzing the foundations of knowledge. They are deeply involved emotionally in their attack on truth and reality. They attack these concepts because of their own psychological needs. For one thing, their attack is an outlet for hostility, and, to the extent that it is successful, it satisfies the drive for power. More importantly, the leftist hates science and rationality because they classify certain beliefs as true (i.e., successful, superior) and other beliefs as false (i.e., failed, inferior). The leftist's feelings of inferiority run so deep that he cannot tolerate any classification of some things as successful or superior and other things as failed or inferior. This also underlies the rejection by many leftists of the concept of mental illness and of the utility of IQ tests. Leftists are antagonistic to genetic explanations of human abilities or behavior because such explanations tend to make some persons appear superior or inferior to others. Leftists prefer to give society the credit or blame for an individual's ability or lack of it. Thus if a person is "inferior" it is not his fault, but society's, because he has not been brought up properly.

19. The leftist is not typically the kind of person whose feelings of inferiority make him a braggart, an egotist, a bully, a self-promoter, a ruthless competitor. This kind of person has not wholly lost faith in himself. He has a deficit in his sense of power and self-worth, but he can still conceive of himself as having the capacity to be strong, and his efforts to make himself strong produce his unpleasant behavior.[1] But the leftist is too far gone for that. His feelings of inferiority are so ingrained that he cannot conceive of himself as individually strong and valuable. Hence the collectivism of the leftist. He can feel strong only as a member of a large organization or a mass movement with which he identifies himself.

20. Notice the masochistic tendency of leftist tactics. Leftists protest by lying down in front of vehicles, they intentionally provoke police or racists to abuse them, etc. These tactics may often be effective, but many leftists use them not as a means to an end but because they prefer masochistic tactics. Self-hatred is a leftist trait.

21. Leftists may claim that their activism is motivated by compassion or by moral principles, and moral principle does play a role for the leftist of the oversocialized type. But compassion and moral principle cannot be the main motives for leftist activism. Hostility is too prominent a component of leftist behavior; so is the drive for power. Moreover, much leftist behavior is not rationally calculated to be of benefit to the people whom the leftists claim to be trying to help. For example, if one believes that affirmative action is good for black people, does it make sense to demand affirmative action in hostile or dogmatic terms? Obviously it would be more productive to take a diplomatic and conciliatory approach that would make at least verbal and symbolic concessions to white people who think that affirmative action discriminates against them. But leftist activists do not take such an approach because it would not satisfy their emotional needs. Helping black people is not their real goal. Instead, race problems serve as an excuse for them to express their own hostility and frustrated need for power. In doing so they actually harm black people, because the activists' hostile attitude toward the white majority tends to intensify race hatred.

22. If our society had no social problems at all, the leftists would have to invent problems in order to provide themselves with an excuse for making a fuss.

23. We emphasize that the foregoing does not pretend to be an accurate description of everyone who might be considered a leftist. It is only a rough indication of a general tendency of leftism."
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 03, 2008, 07:08:25 AM
"Oversocialization

24. Psychologists use the term "socialization" to designate the process by which children are trained to think and act as society demands. A person is said to be well socialized if he believes in and obeys the moral code of his society and fits in well as a functioning part of that society. It may seem senseless to say that many leftists are over-socialized, since the leftist is perceived as a rebel. Nevertheless, the position can be defended. Many leftists are not such rebels as they seem.

25. The moral code of our society is so demanding that no one can think, feel and act in a completely moral way. For example, we are not supposed to hate anyone, yet almost everyone hates somebody at some time or other, whether he admits it to himself or not. Some people are so highly socialized that the attempt to think, feel and act morally imposes a severe burden on them. In order to avoid feelings of guilt, they continually have to deceive themselves about their own motives and find moral explanations for feelings and actions that in reality have a non-moral origin. We use the term "oversocialized" to describe such people.[2]

26. Oversocialization can lead to low self-esteem, a sense of powerlessness, defeatism, guilt, etc. One of the most important means by which our society socializes children is by making them feel ashamed of behavior or speech that is contrary to society's expectations. If this is overdone, or if a particular child is especially susceptible to such feelings, he ends by feeling ashamed of himself. Moreover the thought and the behavior of the oversocialized person are more restricted by society's expectations than are those of the lightly socialized person. The majority of people engage in a significant amount of naughty behavior. They lie, they commit petty thefts, they break traffic laws, they goof off at work, they hate someone, they say spiteful things or they use some underhanded trick to get ahead of the other guy. The oversocialized person cannot do these things, or if he does do them he generates in himself a sense of shame and self-hatred. The oversocialized person cannot even experience, without guilt, thoughts or feelings that are contrary to the accepted morality; he cannot think "unclean" thoughts. And socialization is not just a matter of morality; we are socialized to conform to many norms of behavior that do not fall under the heading of morality. Thus the oversocialized person is kept on a psychological leash and spends his life running on rails that society has laid down for him. In many oversocialized people this results in a sense of constraint and powerlessness that can be a severe hardship. We suggest that oversocialization is among the more serious cruelties that human beings inflict on one another.

27. We argue that a very important and influential segment of the modern left is oversocialized and that their oversocialization is of great importance in determining the direction of modern leftism. Leftists of the oversocialized type tend to be intellectuals or members of the upper-middle class. Notice that university intellectuals[3] constitute the most highly socialized segment of our society and also the most left-wing segment.

28. The leftist of the oversocialized type tries to get off his psychological leash and assert his autonomy by rebelling. But usually he is not strong enough to rebel against the most basic values of society. Generally speaking, the goals of today's leftists are not in conflict with the accepted morality. On the contrary, the left takes an accepted moral principle, adopts it as its own, and then accuses mainstream society of violating that principle. Examples: racial equality, equality of the sexes, helping poor people, peace as opposed to war, nonviolence generally, freedom of expression, kindness to animals. More fundamentally, the duty of the individual to serve society and the duty of society to take care of the individual. All these have been deeply rooted values of our society (or at least of its middle and upper classes[4]) for a long time. These values are explicitly or implicitly expressed or presupposed in most of the material presented to us by the mainstream communications media and the educational system. Leftists, especially those of the oversocialized type, usually do not rebel against these principles but justify their hostility to society by claiming (with some degree of truth) that society is not living up to these principles.

29. Here is an illustration of the way in which the oversocialized leftist shows his real attachment to the conventional attitudes of our society while pretending to be in rebellion against it. Many leftists push for affirmative action, for moving black people into high-prestige jobs, for improved education in black schools and more money for such schools; the way of life of the black "underclass" they regard as a social disgrace. They want to integrate the black man into the system, make him a business executive, a lawyer, a scientist just like upper-middle-class white people. The leftists will reply that the last thing they want is to make the black man into a copy of the white man; instead, they want to preserve African American culture. But in what does this preservation of African American culture consist? It can hardly consist in anything more than eating black-style food, listening to black-style music, wearing black-style clothing and going to a black-style church or mosque. In other words, it can express itself only in superficial matters. In all essential respects leftists of the oversocialized type want to make the black man conform to white, middle-class ideals. They want to make him study technical subjects, become an executive or a scientist, spend his life climbing the status ladder to prove that black people are as good as white. They want to make black fathers "responsible." They want black gangs to become nonviolent, etc. But these are exactly the values of the industrial-technological system. The system couldn't care less what kind of music a man listens to, what kind of clothes he wears or what religion he believes in as long as he studies in school, holds a respectable job, climbs the status ladder, is a "responsible" parent, is nonviolent and so forth. In effect, however much he may deny it, the oversocialized leftist wants to integrate the black man into the system and make him adopt its values.

30. We certainly do not claim that leftists, even of the oversocialized type, never rebel against the fundamental values of our society. Clearly they sometimes do. Some oversocialized leftists have gone so far as to rebel against one of modern society's most important principles by engaging in physical violence. By their own account, violence is for them a form of "liberation." In other words, by committing violence they break through the psychological restraints that have been trained into them. Because they are oversocialized these restraints have been more confining for them than for others; hence their need to break free of them. But they usually justify their rebellion in terms of mainstream values. If they engage in violence they claim to be fighting against racism or the like.

31. We realize that many objections could be raised to the foregoing thumb-nail sketch of leftist psychology. The real situation is complex, and anything like a complete description of it would take several volumes even if the necessary data were available. We claim only to have indicated very roughly the two most important tendencies in the psychology of modern leftism.

32. The problems of the leftist are indicative of the problems of our society as a whole. Low self-esteem, depressive tendencies and defeatism are not restricted to the left. Though they are especially noticeable in the left, they are widespread in our society. And today's society tries to socialize us to a greater extent than any previous society. We are even told by experts how to eat, how to exercise, how to make love, how to raise our kids and so forth."
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 03, 2008, 08:53:54 AM
read it before.  it doesn't get any less hilarious on the second read.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 03, 2008, 08:54:12 AM
Do you mean liberal or "liberal"?

define both.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 03, 2008, 08:57:20 AM
read it before.  it doesn't get any less hilarious on the second read.  :laugh:

Yes? Tell me, honestly: what's wrong with his analysis? Aren't most of the "leftists" whining, passive-aggressive quasi-intellectuals from the middle and upper class? I know foregneirs getting less upset when I say something racist right to their faces than these jerks you find at all universities nowadays.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 03, 2008, 08:58:56 AM
Do you mean liberal or "liberal"?

define both.

"Liberal"=semi-communist claiming to be liberals, but only liberal when it comes to free immigration.

Liberal=libertarian or right wing anarchist.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 03, 2008, 11:34:24 AM
Do you mean liberal or "liberal"?

define both.

"Liberal"=semi-communist claiming to be liberals, but only liberal when it comes to free immigration.

Liberal=libertarian or right wing anarchist.

how... interesting.

neither of them, then.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 03, 2008, 12:16:06 PM
read it before.  it doesn't get any less hilarious on the second read.  :laugh:

Yes? Tell me, honestly: what's wrong with his analysis? Aren't most of the "leftists" whining, passive-aggressive quasi-intellectuals from the middle and upper class? I know foregneirs getting less upset when I say something racist right to their faces than these jerks you find at all universities nowadays.
Ha - possibly correct. They call themselves conservatives in my university. I have the distinction of being one of the few genuine socialists in my university.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: DirtDawg on December 03, 2008, 01:12:30 PM
For killing towelheads or vote for the BNP, for example.  8)

nah - i'd rather shag sheep.  they look quite fetching in jackboots, too.

Meh.

I prefer them in hawt silk with braids and bows.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 03, 2008, 01:24:01 PM
For killing towelheads or vote for the BNP, for example.  8)

nah - i'd rather shag sheep.  they look quite fetching in jackboots, too.

Meh.

I prefer them in hawt silk with braids and bows.

only on special occasions, otherwise you get too used to it.  ;)
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 03, 2008, 03:35:01 PM
Don't give Lit ideas, now. The poor sheep have enough to worry about already.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Frolic_Fun on December 04, 2008, 02:05:29 AM
I don't claim to be anything when it comes to politics, my views are basically some dodgy mixture of everything. Half the bloody countries are like that, they're not entirely "capitalist". :orly:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 04, 2008, 06:30:59 AM
Only the IRA is BRAVE in your country.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Frolic_Fun on December 04, 2008, 11:26:35 AM
The IRA has disarmed - not so BRAVE now eh?
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 04, 2008, 11:53:59 AM
There might be a few brave of them left. And you're an idiot if you think it's good disarming militias or civilians. Makes you (us) all even more helpless against the establishment.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Frolic_Fun on December 04, 2008, 12:41:42 PM
Fuck all people have weapons in Ireland - we barely even have a military! :laugh:

Our "establishment" is incredibly stupid, not evil. :zoinks:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 04, 2008, 12:43:42 PM
The two are not necessarily mutually excluding.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 04, 2008, 02:57:53 PM
The two are not necessarily mutually excluding.

exclusive, petal.

aren't you lucky to have so many people on here to correct your english?   :thumbup:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 04, 2008, 03:03:08 PM
The Swedish word would be "exkluderande" and the German "exkludierend", so it's merely your language that turns out to be illogical once again.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 04, 2008, 03:20:51 PM
The Swedish word would be "exkluderande" and the German "exkludierend", so it's merely your language that turns out to be illogical once again.

But if you wanted to preserve our fine language, you'd use "uteslutande" instead.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 04, 2008, 03:31:15 PM
The Swedish word would be "exkluderande" and the German "exkludierend", so it's merely your language that turns out to be illogical once again.

why?  it's partly a romance language, so why should it follow germanic language rules at all times?

anyway, i wasn't writing swedish or german, dur, and neither were you.

 :hahaha:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 04, 2008, 03:55:35 PM
The Swedish word would be "exkluderande" and the German "exkludierend", so it's merely your language that turns out to be illogical once again.

But if you wanted to preserve our fine language, you'd use "uteslutande" instead.

I do normally, and the Germans usually don't use "exkludierend" either, but I presented a point.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 04, 2008, 03:56:45 PM
The Swedish word would be "exkluderande" and the German "exkludierend", so it's merely your language that turns out to be illogical once again.

why?  it's partly a romance language, so why should it follow germanic language rules at all times?

anyway, i wasn't writing swedish or german, dur, and neither were you.

 :hahaha:

The bulk of English is Germanic, even if you have polluted it with French, Spanish and other shit. Even your prepositions are used in a weird way.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 04, 2008, 03:57:06 PM
The Swedish word would be "exkluderande" and the German "exkludierend", so it's merely your language that turns out to be illogical once again.

But if you wanted to preserve our fine language, you'd use "uteslutande" instead.

I do normally, and the Germans usually don't use "exkludierend" either, but I presented a point.

The lack of one, actually. ::)
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 04, 2008, 04:13:45 PM
The Swedish word would be "exkluderande" and the German "exkludierend", so it's merely your language that turns out to be illogical once again.

why?  it's partly a romance language, so why should it follow germanic language rules at all times?

anyway, i wasn't writing swedish or german, dur, and neither were you.

 :hahaha:


The bulk of English is Germanic, even if you have polluted it with French, Spanish and other shit. Even your prepositions are used in a weird way.

you keep saying "you" and "your" - aren't you rather making assumptions that i'm english?
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 04, 2008, 04:15:19 PM
The Swedish word would be "exkluderande" and the German "exkludierend", so it's merely your language that turns out to be illogical once again.

why?  it's partly a romance language, so why should it follow germanic language rules at all times?

anyway, i wasn't writing swedish or german, dur, and neither were you.

 :hahaha:


The bulk of English is Germanic, even if you have polluted it with French, Spanish and other shit. Even your prepositions are used in a weird way.

you keep saying "you" and "your" - aren't you rather making assumptions that i'm english?

As far as I have understood, you are English speaking with English as your native language.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Alex179 on December 04, 2008, 04:15:44 PM
He was wrong in his usage of exclusive, big deal.   You know what he meant.   Nitpicking when someone isn't even typing in their first language is kind of lame.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 04, 2008, 04:19:42 PM
He was wrong in his usage of exclusive, big deal.   You know what he meant.   Nitpicking when someone isn't even typing in their first language is kind of lame.

pi wanker.  :smarty:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 04, 2008, 04:22:36 PM
He was wrong in his usage of exclusive, big deal.   You know what he meant.   Nitpicking when someone isn't even typing in their first language is kind of lame.

Not when that someone claims to know how to use that language better than the native speakers. Do read his earlier efforts.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 04, 2008, 04:24:18 PM
I usually do. Shima is an American with college education. She claimed that my English was better than the English of about 90% of the Americans she knew.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Pyraxis on December 04, 2008, 04:25:24 PM
When did she claim that?

How is she doing, anyway?
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 04, 2008, 04:26:05 PM
I usually do. Shima is an American with college education. She claimed that my English was better than the English of about 90% of the Americans she knew.

americans speak american, not english.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 04, 2008, 04:26:58 PM
When did she claim that?

How is she doing, anyway?

She said that a long time ago. Have no contact with her since she left I2, but from what I've heard she's fine.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 04, 2008, 04:27:42 PM
I usually do. Shima is an American with college education. She claimed that my English was better than the English of about 90% of the Americans she knew.

americans speak american, not english.

Oh, and Finns speak Finnish, not Swedish, even the Swedish speaking Finns.  ::)
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 04, 2008, 04:31:34 PM
I usually do. Shima is an American with college education. She claimed that my English was better than the English of about 90% of the Americans she knew.

americans speak american, not english.

Oh, and Finns speak Finnish, not Swedish, even the Swedish-speaking Finns.  ::)

Please use a hyphen.

Shima was obviously trying to be nice. I'm not.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 04, 2008, 04:37:38 PM
Take away that hypocritical "free speech" lie from the board, then. You blabberized Cal and reported Illusions to his ISP and you ridicule/d Scrapheap and me for telling uncomfortable truths that didn't fit into your "liberal" view on things.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 04, 2008, 04:40:05 PM
Take away that hypocritical "free speech" lie from the board, then. You blabberized Cal and reported Illusions to his ISP and you ridicule/d Scrapheap and me for telling uncomfortable truths that didn't fit into your "liberal" view on things.

Poor you. Do you need a manly hug?
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 04, 2008, 04:40:26 PM
Take away that hypocritical "free speech" lie from the board, then. You blabberized Cal and reported Illusions to his ISP and you ridicule/d Scrapheap and me for telling uncomfortable truths that didn't fit into your "liberal" view on things.


:yawn:

he's better than melatonin.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 04, 2008, 04:40:52 PM
Take away that hypocritical "free speech" lie from the board, then. You blabberized Cal and reported Illusions to his ISP and you ridicule/d Scrapheap and me for telling uncomfortable truths that didn't fit into your "liberal" view on things.

Poor you. Do you need a manly hug?

mind where you put your feet, O Man - all those droppings...
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 04, 2008, 04:41:39 PM
Take away this: "We stand for freedom of expression, combative debate, and the generation of ideas. There are no boundaries here over what may be said, save for one rule - be prepared to back up your words. Or face the wrath of the community."

It's a disgusting lie.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 04, 2008, 04:43:36 PM
no-one's stopped you spouting your wibblings, lit.  and i hope no-one will - you're far too entertaining.

:tinfoil:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 04, 2008, 04:45:28 PM
no-one's stopped you spouting your wibblings, lit.  and i hope no-one will - you're far too entertaining.

:tinfoil:

I talk about running the Jews' errands against Illusions.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 04, 2008, 04:47:40 PM
Still no arguments against Kaczynski, because you know he's right, but it's easier to ridicule me and hoping that the worst scenarios won't happen in your lifetime.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 04, 2008, 04:50:57 PM
You're right in that it's easy to ridicule you.

Quote
We stand for freedom of expression, combative debate, and the generation of ideas. There are no boundaries here over what may be said, save for one rule - be prepared to back up your words. Or face the wrath of the community.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 04, 2008, 04:55:58 PM
Oh, so Illusions faced the wrath of I2 when you reported him to his ISP?
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 04, 2008, 05:00:02 PM
Oh, so Illusions faced the wrath of I2 when you reported him to his ISP?

No. Why?
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 04, 2008, 05:02:07 PM
Oh, so Illusions faced the wrath of I2 when you reported him to his ISP?

No. Why?

Why do you say that I'm easy to ridicule? You behave like a twat reporting a man to his ISP for posting things on a site you claim to be a free speech site.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: DirtDawg on December 04, 2008, 05:09:21 PM
Oh, so Illusions faced the wrath of I2 when you reported him to his ISP?

I don't think the community paid him much mind, to be honest. He was so obviously ignorant that his little posts called for no responding upheaval of concern.

The hosting service would have become concerned, in due time, had it not been for the pro-activity by our lowly, little respected and subservient webmaster/meister.

Get your tail wiggling ducks in a row, before you waddle forth with this kind of weak shit.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 04, 2008, 05:12:01 PM
Oh, so Illusions faced the wrath of I2 when you reported him to his ISP?

No. Why?

Why do you say that I'm easy to ridicule? You behave like a twat reporting a man to his ISP for posting things on a site you claim to be a free speech site.

Because you are easy. With every new post you provide me with more ammunition. Believe me, I'm holding back.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 04, 2008, 05:13:14 PM
Oh, so Illusions faced the wrath of I2 when you reported him to his ISP?

I don't think the community paid him much mind, to be honest. He was so obviously ignorant that his little posts called for no responding upheaval of concern.

The hosting service would have become concerned, in due time, had it not been for the pro-activity by our lowly, little respected and subservient webmaster/meister.

Get your tail wiggling ducks in a row, before you waddle forth with this kind of weak shit.

I have been an admin on a Swedish board, which is down now, and we would never have reported anyone to their ISP. Odeon just used it as an excuse for getting rid of Illusions.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 04, 2008, 05:14:02 PM
Oh, so Illusions faced the wrath of I2 when you reported him to his ISP?

No. Why?

Why do you say that I'm easy to ridicule? You behave like a twat reporting a man to his ISP for posting things on a site you claim to be a free speech site.

Because you are easy. With every new post you provide me with more ammunition. Believe me, I'm holding back.

You're dishonest. You don't even admit that you reported Illusions because you hated his opinions.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: DirtDawg on December 04, 2008, 05:20:21 PM
Oh, so Illusions faced the wrath of I2 when you reported him to his ISP?

I don't think the community paid him much mind, to be honest. He was so obviously ignorant that his little posts called for no responding upheaval of concern.

The hosting service would have become concerned, in due time, had it not been for the pro-activity by our lowly, little respected and subservient webmaster/meister.

Get your tail wiggling ducks in a row, before you waddle forth with this kind of weak shit.

I have been an admin on a Swedish board, which is down now, and we would never have reported anyone to their ISP. Odeon just used it as an excuse for getting rid of Illusions.

OK, I'm not sure how you think that doing what-ever-the-fuck-you-want and bringing down a message board is helpful to your argument, but I'll keep listening.

If you think that those who are opposed to people like Illusionist are happy to see them go, you are wrong. It always increases the gravity of intellectual points to have them opposed by ignorant fools who show their true colors upon inspection. It is also an entertainment source, until they cross the lines of definable ethics and involve "us" in the areas of legal culpability.

Do some work. Understand this. Maybe the next board you are working will not be shut down as quickly.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 04, 2008, 05:27:08 PM
The board wasn't shut down becuase extreme views were expressed there.

If speech isn't free, nothing is free.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 04, 2008, 05:28:32 PM
Oh, so Illusions faced the wrath of I2 when you reported him to his ISP?

I don't think the community paid him much mind, to be honest. He was so obviously ignorant that his little posts called for no responding upheaval of concern.

The hosting service would have become concerned, in due time, had it not been for the pro-activity by our lowly, little respected and subservient webmaster/meister.

Get your tail wiggling ducks in a row, before you waddle forth with this kind of weak shit.

I have been an admin on a Swedish board, which is down now, and we would never have reported anyone to their ISP. Odeon just used it as an excuse for getting rid of Illusions.

OK, I'm not sure how you think that doing what-ever-the-fuck-you-want and bringing down a message board is helpful to your argument, but I'll keep listening.

If you think that those who are opposed to people like Illusionist are happy to see them go, you are wrong. It always increases the gravity of intellectual points to have them opposed by ignorant fools who show their true colors upon inspection. It is also an entertainment source, until they cross the lines of definable ethics and involve "us" in the areas of legal culpability.

Do some work. Understand this. Maybe the next board you are working will not be shut down as quickly.

:clap:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 04, 2008, 05:44:44 PM
Still no valid arguments.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 05, 2008, 03:06:24 PM
Oh, so Illusions faced the wrath of I2 when you reported him to his ISP?

No. Why?

Why do you say that I'm easy to ridicule? You behave like a twat reporting a man to his ISP for posting things on a site you claim to be a free speech site.

Because you are easy. With every new post you provide me with more ammunition. Believe me, I'm holding back.

You're dishonest. You don't even admit that you reported Illusions because you hated his opinions.

Not true. One of your bigger problems is that you make groundless assumptions and then repeat them ad nauseam , as if that would make them more true.

You'd wish that was why, that's the thing, because it would better fit your twisted mind.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 05, 2008, 03:08:01 PM
Still no valid arguments.

Present one, in a rational manner, and maybe someone will listen. As things stand, your credibility is wearing a bit thin.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 05, 2008, 03:52:31 PM
A man who was a professor in mathematics and one of the 10-12 best in the entire United States already at age 25 wrote a 55 page manifesto, where he declared what's wrong with modern society and why it must be destroyed.

No "arguments" against him, except that he used violence to get attention, which is no argument, because it doesn't make his statements false.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 05, 2008, 03:59:54 PM
The world of today is actually very similar to that of "1984" except that capitalism and not socialism is the New World Order ideology, at least the name of it is "capitalism". Most people in the West don't feel bad physically but psychically. The powerful states/superstate unions don't fight each other but fight by proxy, on a 3rd part's ground. The enemy is not Goldstein but Osama. Etc.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: DirtDawg on December 05, 2008, 04:05:14 PM
The world of today is actually very similar to that of "1984" except that capitalism and not socialism is the New World Order ideology, at least the name of it is "capitalism". Most people in the West don't feel bad physically but psychically. The powerful states/superstate unions don't fight each other but fight by proxy, on a 3rd part's ground. The enemy is not Goldstein but Osama. Etc.

Wait, you said before that the name of the enemy is Obama.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 05, 2008, 04:17:07 PM
The world of today is actually very similar to that of "1984" except that capitalism and not socialism is the New World Order ideology, at least the name of it is "capitalism". Most people in the West don't feel bad physically but psychically. The powerful states/superstate unions don't fight each other but fight by proxy, on a 3rd part's ground. The enemy is not Goldstein but Osama. Etc.

Wait, you said before that the name of the enemy is Obama.

Yes, but Obama is the US Big Brother. Osama (or Usama) is Goldstein. You must read "1984" to get the point.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: DirtDawg on December 05, 2008, 04:38:39 PM
The world of today is actually very similar to that of "1984" except that capitalism and not socialism is the New World Order ideology, at least the name of it is "capitalism". Most people in the West don't feel bad physically but psychically. The powerful states/superstate unions don't fight each other but fight by proxy, on a 3rd part's ground. The enemy is not Goldstein but Osama. Etc.

Wait, you said before that the name of the enemy is Obama.

Yes, but Obama is the US Big Brother. Osama (or Usama) is Goldstein. You must read "1984" to get the point.

Yes, I read that book along with the rest of Orwell's novels when I was in high school. It was only after taking a renewed interest in his work (in my twenties) that I discovered his poetry, essay work, articles and biographical accounts of his life.

I was just goofing with you.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 05, 2008, 04:44:12 PM
The worst thing is that it's true. People are not as brainwashed (yet) as in "1984", but they are still as apathetic.  :(
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 05, 2008, 06:16:12 PM
A man who was a professor in mathematics and one of the 10-12 best in the entire United States already at age 25 wrote a 55 page manifesto, where he declared what's wrong with modern society and why it must be destroyed.

No "arguments" against him, except that he used violence to get attention, which is no argument, because it doesn't make his statements false.

It doesn't make his statements true, either. Surely an intelligent man would have something else going for him than just violence? But, let's face it: he wasn't very good at blowing people up, either. That airplane bomb failed, miserably.

What a fucking loser.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 05, 2008, 06:29:05 PM
It doesn't make his statements true, either. Surely an intelligent man would have something else going for him than just violence?

For example?

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But, let's face it: he wasn't very good at blowing people up, either. That airplane bomb failed, miserably.

What a fucking loser.

He made several bombs, and that airplane bomb was probably not meant to kill people, since he didn't want to kill people randomly but merely people who worked for the system. It probably was meant as a smoke bomb, just to frighten people.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 05, 2008, 06:33:46 PM
Let me guess: you have never even constructed a bomb, not even for fun and not even as a youth?
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Callaway on December 06, 2008, 02:30:53 AM
The hosting service would have become concerned, in due time, had it not been for the pro-activity by our lowly, little respected and subservient webmaster/meister.


 :agreed:

Odeon did what he had to do to preserve Intensity.  Illusion was breaking the law, which is one of the few things that violates our host's TOS.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 06, 2008, 05:28:21 AM
I thought better of you, Callaway. Shame on you.

Laws suppressing free speech shall always be broken.

And I repeat: WE ALLOWED QUESTIONING THE HOLOCAU$T ON A BOARD WITH A SWEDISH HOST!
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 06, 2008, 05:56:05 AM
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Callaway on December 06, 2008, 06:05:49 AM
I thought better of you, Callaway. Shame on you.

Laws suppressing free speech shall always be broken.

And I repeat: WE ALLOWED QUESTIONING THE HOLOCAU$T ON A BOARD WITH A SWEDISH HOST!

What happened to that board, Litigious?

Does it still exist?

I think that it makes sense to do what is necessary to satisfy the TOS of our host (which are very lenient compared to the TOS of most other hosts) so Intensity continues to exist for everyone else (including you) rather than have our host shut us down because of the illegal activity of one person.  I don't think that it would be possible to find a host that allows people to conduct illegal activity while using their services.  I believe Peaguy searched for a host with very liberal TOS, but even his host's TOS prohibit hate speech and illegal activity.  
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 06, 2008, 06:29:03 AM
What happened to that board, Litigious?

Does it still exist?

It's down, though that has to do with that it was taken over by another member. The first owner was a RL friend of mine.

Quote
I think that it makes sense to do what is necessary to satisfy the TOS of our host (which are very lenient compared to the TOS of most other hosts) so Intensity continues to exist for everyone else (including you) rather than have our host shut us down because of the illegal activity of one person.  I don't think that it would be possible to find a host that allows people to conduct illegal activity while using their services.  I believe Peaguy searched for a host with very liberal TOS, but even his host's TOS prohibit hate speech and illegal activity.  

If you get yourself a gun now, before the new terrorist President is sworn in, will you surrender it if they ban guns in the USA? "Mrs Callaway, we take your gun for your own security. People in Europe have already surrendered their guns. Don't act like an ignorant American hillbilly but surrender your gun like a civilized European."

Or if they want to install a surveillance camera in your home?

Or if they make it compulsory to have a VeriChip (http://www.verichipcorp.com/) implant?
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Callaway on December 06, 2008, 06:42:03 AM
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America

That is true, but the right to freedom of speech is not absolute anywhere and the right is commonly subject to limitations, such as on hate speech.

We are not allowed to yell FIRE! in a crowded theater, nor are we allowed to use our free speech to incite a riot.

Words denying that the Holocaust ever happened are "fighting words", which is a specific limitation on freedom of speech in the US.

Quote from: Supreme Court Decision in Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 1942
There are certain well-defined and narrowly limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which have never been thought to raise any constitutional problem. These include the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous, and the insulting or "fighting words" those which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace. It has been well observed that such utterances are no essential part of any exposition of ideas, and are of such slight social value as a step to truth that any benefit that may be derived from them is clearly outweighed by the social interest in order and morality.





Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 06, 2008, 07:10:59 AM
Ridiculous. Humankind is at least 2 millions years old and written history goes back at least 7500 years.

Isn't something wrong when you can be punished for questioning an event in history or even more wrong when you can get punished for questioning just one single event in history? I cannot be punished for denying the extermination of the native "Americans", nor the exterminations of the Armenians, nor Stalin's "purges" in the late 1930s, but questioning (the extent of) the so called Holocaust can get you several years in jail in some countries.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 06, 2008, 07:28:16 AM
I also asked you what you would do if you got yourself a gun and they'd demand you surrendering it. "You see, Mrs. Callaway, you're law-abiding, but you're just an ordinary citizen, and ordinary citizens can't be trusted with guns, even if totally unpunished. Guns are only safe in the hands of the police and military, because the police and military know how to handle guns in a proper and responsible way. They have showed that thoroughout the entire history. There was never a policeman or soldier using his gun for killing an innocent and defenceless person. Never. You could harm yourself or your family with your gun, or worse, you could harm some authority person/s with it, so for your own good, you must surrender it. Please don't make us use force to have you surrender it, Mrs. Callaway."
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 06, 2008, 07:48:14 AM
This guy (http://www.expressen.se/nyheter/1.981611/lars-widerstrom-hatar-poliser) did the right thing.  :evillaugh:

Ten little piggies behaved like real swine;
Lars pulled the trigger, and oops, they were just nine!

 8)
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: DirtDawg on December 06, 2008, 07:54:29 AM
Bored today, Tig?
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 06, 2008, 07:56:03 AM
It's rainy and I've got a headache. Nevertheless, what I post is the truth.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 06, 2008, 07:57:54 AM
If all Swedes were like Lars Widerström, there would be no power-abusing authorities, because they'd all be slaughtered.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 06, 2008, 08:11:37 AM
It's rainy and I've got a headache. Nevertheless, what I post is the truth.

:LMAO:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 06, 2008, 08:14:08 AM
It doesn't make his statements true, either. Surely an intelligent man would have something else going for him than just violence?

For example?

That was a cue for you. IMO, he didn't. He was and is just another loser.

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But, let's face it: he wasn't very good at blowing people up, either. That airplane bomb failed, miserably.

What a fucking loser.

He made several bombs, and that airplane bomb was probably not meant to kill people, since he didn't want to kill people randomly but merely people who worked for the system. It probably was meant as a smoke bomb, just to frighten people.

The authorities thought otherwise. He's where he belongs now, and if there is any justice left, he will rot there. After a few refreshing incidents in the shower first, hopefully.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 06, 2008, 08:32:47 AM
That was a cue for you. IMO, he didn't. He was and is just another loser.


Unllike a winner like you who can blabberize and report people to their ISP and indirectly vote for the FRA law.

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The authorities thought otherwise.

How surprising.

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He's where he belongs now, and if there is any justice left, he will rot there. After a few refreshing incidents in the shower first, hopefully.

You're a draft dodger that never fired a gun or even made a firecracker in your whole life, never risked anything and never believed in anything really original. You shouldn't have the right to air your opinion on a man like him at all.


Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 06, 2008, 08:58:41 AM
I wonder why Sweden hasn't suggested that he should serve his time in a Swedish prison, like they did with some scum in Guantanamo and even Saddam(!)

Wait...he's a white Western male, fighting for humankind and not for Islam a.k.a. the Moon God religion founded by the illiteral pedophile Muhammed and has never raped a white girl or something. Of course they wouldn't let him do his time here. No PC points in that.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 06, 2008, 09:08:55 AM
Reality check; sitting in your little suburb and thinking everything will be OK will neither protect you from Big Brother:

(http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/01/medtech/image/verichip.jpg)

nor "cultural enrichment":

(http://www.expressen.se/polopoly_fs/1.188795!defaultImage/2640437510.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 06, 2008, 09:12:12 AM
Last pic: Swedish whore culturally enriched by four lovely Somalis, whom the Swedish people shall be thankful to feed and nourish.

Good that she didn't have a gun. She might have hurt some of the enrichers.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 06, 2008, 09:33:45 AM
That was a cue for you. IMO, he didn't. He was and is just another loser.


Unllike a winner like you who can blabberize and report people to their ISP and indirectly vote for the FRA law.

Yes dear.

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The authorities thought otherwise.

How surprising.

Not in the least.

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He's where he belongs now, and if there is any justice left, he will rot there. After a few refreshing incidents in the shower first, hopefully.

You're a draft dodger that never fired a gun or even made a firecracker in your whole life, never risked anything and never believed in anything really original. You shouldn't have the right to air your opinion on a man like him at all.

:LMAO:

Hit a nerve, didn't I?  :hahaha:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 06, 2008, 09:34:53 AM
Last pic: Swedish whore culturally enriched by four lovely Somalis, whom the Swedish people shall be thankful to feed and nourish.

Good that she didn't have a gun. She might have hurt some of the enrichers.

It's funny how you pretend to respect the rights of others when it suits you.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 06, 2008, 09:36:20 AM
I have never raped. I have never abused anyone's rights.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 06, 2008, 03:10:53 PM
I have never abused anyone's rights.

you're abusing my right not to be bored to death.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 06, 2008, 03:21:19 PM
I have never raped. I have never abused anyone's rights.

Right. You were set up, then?

::)
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 06, 2008, 03:28:48 PM
I repeat: I have never abused anyone's rights.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 06, 2008, 03:31:46 PM
I repeat: I have never abused anyone's rights.

Yes, dear.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 06, 2008, 04:51:33 PM
"Political Pundits
...or philosophy or religion. We lean toward tearing down the social structure and rebuilding it anew, this time where people get a fair shake."

No, you don't, so why is that statement there?
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 06, 2008, 04:58:05 PM
I have never abused anyone's rights.

you're abusing my right not to be bored to death.
Not a human right - which I assume Lit meant. Asides, I really don't subscribe to this rights culture - some of these rights ultimately fuck with people, a good example is freedom of choice with schooling.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 06, 2008, 05:17:47 PM
"Political Pundits
...or philosophy or religion. We lean toward tearing down the social structure and rebuilding it anew, this time where people get a fair shake."

No, you don't, so why is that statement there?

To annoy you, obviously.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 06, 2008, 05:22:30 PM
I have never abused anyone's rights.

you're abusing my right not to be bored to death.
Not a human right - which I assume Lit meant. Asides, I really don't subscribe to this rights culture - some of these rights ultimately fuck with people, a good example is freedom of choice with schooling.

You're at least honest. I always had more respect for sincere socialists than for "liberals".  :)
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Christopher McCandless on December 06, 2008, 05:29:06 PM
I have never abused anyone's rights.

you're abusing my right not to be bored to death.
Not a human right - which I assume Lit meant. Asides, I really don't subscribe to this rights culture - some of these rights ultimately fuck with people, a good example is freedom of choice with schooling.

You're at least honest. I always had more respect for sincere socialists than for "liberals".  :)
I am a rationalist if anything - pure to the sole aims of government which imo should be to keep the people safe and happy. As long as they do a good job then I am happy to be almost devoid of liberty.

PS - fancy getting on the chatroom say now. I have an essay to do and don't want to...
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: DirtDawg on December 06, 2008, 11:06:06 PM
I have never abused anyone's rights.

you're abusing my right not to be bored to death.
Not a human right - which I assume Lit meant. Asides, I really don't subscribe to this rights culture - some of these rights ultimately fuck with people, a good example is freedom of choice with schooling.

:LMAO:

Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: DirtDawg on December 06, 2008, 11:25:53 PM
...  Asides, I really don't subscribe to this rights culture - some of these rights ultimately fuck with people ...



"Asides, I really don't subscribe to this rights culture ..."


This is treasure!
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: DirtDawg on December 06, 2008, 11:31:56 PM

My rights as an American citizen do not fuck with anyone. You might try again to fuck with my rights, though, like your ancestors tried, but you will fail again and again.

Newsflash:

There are several of us who are willing to stand up against you.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Leto729 on December 06, 2008, 11:50:35 PM
I am a Brave Dane. :zoinks:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Parts on December 07, 2008, 06:40:04 AM

My rights as an American citizen do not fuck with anyone. You might try again to fuck with my rights, though, like your ancestors tried, but you will fail again and again.

Newsflash:

There are several of us who are willing to stand up against you.

More than several and we got guns :P
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 07, 2008, 01:08:27 PM
But do you know who to use them against?
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 07, 2008, 01:26:10 PM
But do you know who to use them against?

if you want to paint a target on your forehead, feel free, but i'm sure they wouldn't need it.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 07, 2008, 01:33:01 PM
You won't escape the terror of "society" by mocking anyone on this board.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 07, 2008, 01:34:48 PM
You won't escape the terror of "society" by mocking anyone on this board.

of course not, but it entertains me immensely to rip the piss out of deranged codswallop.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 07, 2008, 01:36:10 PM
Theodore Kaczynski wasn't a cowardly draft dodger anyway.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 07, 2008, 01:38:37 PM
i rest my case...
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 07, 2008, 01:40:53 PM
Well, was he?
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 07, 2008, 01:42:10 PM
i'm so sorry - you appear to have mistaken me for someone who gives a fuck.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Leto729 on December 07, 2008, 01:44:43 PM
You do care.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 07, 2008, 01:45:41 PM
 :agreed: :plus:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 07, 2008, 01:45:57 PM
You do care.

about lots of things, yes, usually, but not about lit's crazed warblings, no.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 07, 2008, 01:47:48 PM
The fact that you bother to answer proves you wrong.  8)
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: DirtDawg on December 07, 2008, 03:25:06 PM
The fact that you bother to answer proves you wrong.  8)

That might seem true if she went past burnishing the surface of your views and adding to the sheen.

All that you will accomplish with this is keeping your racist, whacked out views polished by slurs from an inattentive audience.

Interestingly, you continue to pony up with Free Plays in this game.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 07, 2008, 03:31:32 PM
Well, this thread wasn't about racism to begin with but about a Swedish King who was the last of his kind, a real hero. He was the last King in Europe that actually was in the front line himself. With 3000 Swedes he kicked 10000 Russian asses in Estonia in 1700.

The so called Unabomber Manifesto isn't about racism either, but you lack the perspective to understand it anyway, it seems.

Of course I pony up.  :heart:


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Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: DirtDawg on December 07, 2008, 04:41:12 PM


Not true at all.  I totally get Theo.K. I have read his Industrial Society and Its Future  more than once and actually done a little research for my own mind's health.  I just differ in some of my views.

Of course he was an intelligent man and he made excellent points, quite succinctly, in one short essay, but the man was off his nut in his actions sufficiently to offset his intelligence.

I was not really talking about this particular thread, anyway, with my last remark accusing you of blatant racism, partially, but mostly indicting the entirety of your value system.

Obviously, you are too impressed with yourself to grasp this.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 07, 2008, 04:46:26 PM
If you want to destroy the current system and people won't listen to you, you have to use violence.

What's wrong with being a racist?  8)
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: SovaNu on December 07, 2008, 05:07:55 PM
anyone in sweden should be a racist. the somali fucks have taken over scandinavia. color aside, their culture is an abomination.

doesn't mean all blacks or otherthings are bad. i just hate somali culture with a passion. they mutilate women sexually and treat them like fucking things to use and they are unhygienic and loud.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 07, 2008, 05:11:08 PM
 :agreed: Somalis aren't human beings.  :grrr:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: DirtDawg on December 07, 2008, 05:11:54 PM
If you want to destroy the current system and people won't listen to you, you have to use violence.

What's wrong with being a racist?  8)

I believe it's an outdated mindset, which had problems with sustainability even when it was helpful to evolution, due to the depth of the human heart.

I prefer to live as an anti-racist, pursuing and enveloping the differences from me that I find.

The biggest lie you live with in a life of racism is to think that it does you no harm. The racist is equally harmed by his racism.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: SovaNu on December 07, 2008, 05:16:26 PM
:agreed: Somalis aren't human beings.  :grrr:

well anyone raised like that rarely is. there was a somali finn who was totally decent on TV once. it's all about upbringing. i hope somalis assimilate quickly and the misogynism doesn't pass on. cuz really, i don't think some cultures are very worthy of saving. or at least parts of them.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Parts on December 07, 2008, 05:38:38 PM
You have a lot of Somalis in Sweden my condolences  I had the pleasure of working with some once I'm sure they all can't be that bad but fuck they wanted everything handed  them on a plate and once it got cold all they did as sit in the van with the heat running the last straw was they ruined a $5000 door and wouldn't even say sorry though they told me they did it 
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 07, 2008, 05:47:26 PM
Sounds exactly like the Somalis in Sweden.  :grrr:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Parts on December 07, 2008, 06:00:44 PM
Why do they go someplace cold I don't get it.  I showed the ice outside for the first time on a pond.  Why don't they opt for warmer areas?
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: SovaNu on December 07, 2008, 06:17:15 PM
they don't exactly have a place to go, they're refugees. they probably can't choose. why would they go to scandinavia? full of snow and cold and a culture that is opposite of them.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 08, 2008, 02:38:08 AM

The biggest lie you live with in a life of racism is to think that it does you no harm. The racist is equally harmed by his racism.

QFT.

 :plus:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 08, 2008, 05:08:45 AM
Why do they go someplace cold I don't get it.  I showed the ice outside for the first time on a pond.  Why don't they opt for warmer areas?

Because they get no welfare in countries warm like their own. Even the pretty meager welfare system of the US is a paradise for them compared with where they came from.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Pyraxis on December 08, 2008, 06:20:02 AM

The biggest lie you live with in a life of racism is to think that it does you no harm. The racist is equally harmed by his racism.

QFT.

 :plus:

How is the racist equally harmed compared to the people they're prejudiced against?
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Parts on December 08, 2008, 06:50:13 AM
Why do they go someplace cold I don't get it.  I showed the ice outside for the first time on a pond.  Why don't they opt for warmer areas?

Because they get no welfare in countries warm like their own. Even the pretty meager welfare system of the US is a paradise for them compared with where they came from.

Then they should opt of the Southern states or California.  BTW they took the job outside over one in a heated plant
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 08, 2008, 03:13:02 PM
:agreed: Somalis aren't human beings.  :grrr:

Well, neither are you.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 08, 2008, 03:13:33 PM
 :violin:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: DirtDawg on December 08, 2008, 04:08:56 PM

The biggest lie you live with in a life of racism is to think that it does you no harm. The racist is equally harmed by his racism.

QFT.

 :plus:

I ghrew up in a Christian environment. I was not taught to hate. I was taught from my earliest memories to find the good in every person and allow (no, expand upon the difference) them to be different from me.












I have said this before, but, you try to walk in the bare feet (sorry, only lambskins for your feet) of the Jesus character and you wil be climbing uphill the whole way.

We know not what the man did, but his legacy demanding each one of personal responsibility is garnered as one of my personal strenghths.

fuck anyone who thinks they can try me
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 08, 2008, 04:43:27 PM
I'm a heathen.  8)
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: DirtDawg on December 08, 2008, 04:53:14 PM

The biggest lie you live with in a life of racism is to think that it does you no harm. The racist is equally harmed by his racism.

QFT.

 :plus:

How is the racist equally harmed compared to the people they're prejudiced against?

Since you're not asking me about my statement, then, fuck off!
Go find your light.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: TheoK on December 08, 2008, 04:58:27 PM
Christian rubbish. I hate it. I only hate Islam more.
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: DirtDawg on December 08, 2008, 05:17:22 PM
Christian rubbish. I hate it. I only hate Islam more.

It's less Christian than nature's way.

Hate lightening, too? Hate the power of wind (shit, you've posted such)? Have you not noticed the sun? Do you know the the darkness of sun's absence, yet?

You only need a few lessons to find your way, once you are open to nature's nature.

Assuming that the Christ child is a myth, do you know the wisdom shared by the wise men who wrote of these myths?

If not, then maybe you should read Aesop, first.
Christ's living lessons may be a little advanced for one who still prefers to blow things up and fuck everything in the ass.
(I was there, I get it, but there is more to life.)
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Pyraxis on December 08, 2008, 10:42:37 PM
The biggest lie you live with in a life of racism is to think that it does you no harm. The racist is equally harmed by his racism.

How is the racist equally harmed compared to the people they're prejudiced against?

How is the racist equally harmed by his racism?


(Am I freer of straw men with that one?)
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 09, 2008, 01:42:53 AM
:violin:

Look who's talking. :hahaha:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Frolic_Fun on December 09, 2008, 02:00:46 AM
Racism is weak, misanthropy is far better. Equal dislike of all! :zoinks:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Lucifer on December 09, 2008, 02:55:57 AM
Racism is weak, misanthropy is far better. Equal dislike of all! :zoinks:

 :agreed:

The Sam Vimes Philosophy.  ;)
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: odeon on December 09, 2008, 05:45:48 AM
Racism is weak, misanthropy is far better. Equal dislike of all! :zoinks:

 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Let's celebrate a BRAVE Swede!
Post by: Pyraxis on December 09, 2008, 11:04:30 PM
The biggest lie you live with in a life of racism is to think that it does you no harm. The racist is equally harmed by his racism.

How is the racist equally harmed compared to the people they're prejudiced against?

How is the racist equally harmed by his racism?


(Am I freer of straw men with that one?)

I don't get our interactions anymore. What offense have I caused you?