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Title: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Scrapheap on March 10, 2007, 06:10:01 PM
This should go a long way to bring down murder rates in D.C.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17538139/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17538139/)
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Litigious on March 10, 2007, 06:12:44 PM
Lucky Yanks. That'll never happen in Sweden. Or in most European countries for that matter.  :(
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: McGiver on March 10, 2007, 06:14:03 PM
for those who are paranoid about clicking links:




WASHINGTON - In the most important ruling on gun control in 70 years, a federal appeals court Friday for the first time used the Second Amendment to strike down a gun law.

In a 2-1 decision, the court overturned the District of Columbia’s long-standing handgun ban, rejecting the city’s argument that the Second Amendment right to bear arms applied only to militias.

The majority held that the activities protected by the Second Amendment “are not limited to militia service, nor is an individual’s enjoyment of the right contingent” on enrollment in a militia.

The ruling is a victory for Tom Palmer, a Washington resident who was once assaulted and wants a gun in the house for self-defense.

"The fact is that the criminals don't obey the law and they do have guns," he said. "It's the law-abiding citizens who are disarmed by this law."

He was one of six who went to court to challenge the city's gun law, passed as an anti-crime measure 30 years ago. It outlaws handguns or rifles except for residents with permits, mainly police or security guards.

Washington Mayor Adrian Fenty said the ruling could put more guns in the hands of young people. "I am personally deeply disappointed and quite frankly outraged by today's decision," he said. "Today's decision flies in the face of laws that have helped decrease gun violence in the District of Columbia."

Rival judicial views
The ruling revives a long fight over the 27 words of the Second Amendment: "A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

Gun control advocates argue that the phrase "well-regulated militia" means that owning a gun is a group right, subject to restriction.

But the court essentially said the right to bear arms is an individual right for private activities, including self-defense.

“The district’s definition of the militia is just too narrow,” Judge Laurence Silberman wrote for the majority. “There are too many instances of ‘bear arms’ indicating private use to conclude that the drafters intended only a military sense.”

That's precisely the view that the National Rifle Association has advocated for decades.

Wayne LaPierre, the NRA's executive vice president, said the decision gives the district “a crack in the door to join the rest of the country in full constitutional freedom.”

Judge Karen Henderson dissented, writing that the Second Amendment does not apply to the District of Columbia because it is not a state.

Silberman wrote that the Second Amendment is still “subject to the same sort of reasonable restrictions that have been recognized as limiting, for instance, the First Amendment.”

Such restrictions might include gun registration, firearms testing to promote public safety or restrictions on gun ownership for criminals or those deemed mentally ill.

Time for Supreme Court?
The city says it will appeal, to the U.S. Supreme Court if necessary.

The Bush administration has endorsed individual gun-ownership rights, but the Supreme Court has never settled the issue.

“I think this is well positioned for review of the Supreme Court,” said Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law professor at George Washington University. He said the D.C. circuit is historically influential with the Supreme Court because it often deals with constitutional questions.

“You also have a very well-reasoned opinion, both in the majority and the dissent,” Turley said.

If the dispute makes it to the high court, it would be the first case in nearly 70 years to address the Second Amendment’s scope.

Legal experts say Friday's ruling launches a huge battle.

"This is a monumental case that sets up the biggest fight over gun rights in the modern history of the United States," said expert Tom Goldstein.

Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Litigious on March 10, 2007, 06:18:42 PM
You couldn't get that into the heads of neither the politicians, nor the citizens in most countries in Europe. Guns are evil in most Europeans' opinion.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Scrapheap on March 10, 2007, 06:21:32 PM
You couldn't get that into the heads of neither the politicians, nor the citizens in most countries in Europe. Guns are evil in most Europeans' opinion.

As is the military. They've all gone emo.  :violin:
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: McGiver on March 10, 2007, 06:25:00 PM
You couldn't get that into the heads of neither the politicians, nor the citizens in most countries in Europe. Guns are evil in most Europeans' opinion.

As is the military. They've all gone emo.  :violin:

each time you take a man tradition and allow women to infiltrate it like they belong, everything becomes emo.

men and women ARE different.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Litigious on March 10, 2007, 06:26:57 PM
I don't think it's that that makes people be anti guns in Europe. I don't know what it is.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: McGiver on March 10, 2007, 06:29:37 PM
I don't think it's that that makes people be anti guns in Europe. I don't know what it is.
it is two world wars and europe being the main arena.



europe has never been an all male tradition....
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Litigious on March 10, 2007, 06:31:47 PM
europe has never been an all male tradition....

Because we never had any frontiers or what do you mean?  ???
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Callaway on March 10, 2007, 06:51:25 PM
You couldn't get that into the heads of neither the politicians, nor the citizens in most countries in Europe. Guns are evil in most Europeans' opinion.

As is the military. They've all gone emo.  :violin:

each time you take a man tradition and allow women to infiltrate it like they belong, everything becomes emo.


That's silly and misogynistic.

Do you think the Israeli army is emo?

Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: McGiver on March 10, 2007, 06:56:01 PM
You couldn't get that into the heads of neither the politicians, nor the citizens in most countries in Europe. Guns are evil in most Europeans' opinion.

As is the military. They've all gone emo.  :violin:

each time you take a man tradition and allow women to infiltrate it like they belong, everything becomes emo.


That's silly and misogynistic.

Do you think the Israeli army is emo?



i never said that i wasn't a bit mysogynistic.

i don't know anything about the israeli army.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Litigious on March 10, 2007, 06:58:57 PM
You couldn't get that into the heads of neither the politicians, nor the citizens in most countries in Europe. Guns are evil in most Europeans' opinion.

As is the military. They've all gone emo.  :violin:

each time you take a man tradition and allow women to infiltrate it like they belong, everything becomes emo.


That's silly and misogynistic.

Do you think the Israeli army is emo?



i never said that i wasn't a bit mysogynistic.

i don't know anything about the israeli army.

Israeli women have to do military service like the men.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: McGiver on March 10, 2007, 07:00:14 PM
PC!

weren't they one of the first to have a female leader?
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Callaway on March 10, 2007, 07:03:31 PM
Both Jewish men and women are required to serve in the Israeli Army and it is one of the most powerful and modern armies in the world. 

PC has nothing whatsoever to do with it.

Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: McGiver on March 10, 2007, 07:04:32 PM
Both Jewish men and women are required to serve in the Israeli Army and it is one of the most powerful and modern armies in the world. 

PC has nothing whatsoever to do with it.


it has everything to do with it.
did you answer my question about having a female leader?
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Callaway on March 10, 2007, 07:06:03 PM


i never said that i wasn't a bit mysogynistic.

i don't know anything about the israeli army.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Army

What difference does it make if there are male or female leaders?
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Litigious on March 10, 2007, 07:14:30 PM


i never said that i wasn't a bit mysogynistic.

i don't know anything about the israeli army.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Army

What difference does it make if there are male or female leaders?

Maybe not for Israelis, since they're a very strong people, both men and women, but I think he might be right that female thinking has made Europeans sissys who are afraid of guns.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Scrapheap on March 10, 2007, 08:03:36 PM
Both Jewish men and women are required to serve in the Israeli Army and it is one of the most powerful and modern armies in the world. 

PC has nothing whatsoever to do with it.

Correct! Having thier backs to the sea, only having a population of about 6 million, and having 300 million arabs who want to push them into the ocean is the motivation behind women in the IDF. They have no choice.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Pyraxis on March 10, 2007, 08:04:43 PM
There are just as many females in the USA as in Europe. Why would Europe be more against guns, if it were the fault of women?
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Scrapheap on March 10, 2007, 08:08:56 PM
What difference does it make if there are male or female leaders?

Based on my experience, the quality of women leaders varies more than men. A few women NCO's and officers I dealt with in the Marines were top notch. Many were bitchy, catty pieces of shit though.

From the standpoint of a military commander, you have a better chance of good leadership from a man than you do a woman.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Scrapheap on March 10, 2007, 08:10:56 PM
There are just as many females in the USA as in Europe. Why would Europe be more against guns, if it were the fault of women?

It's more about a mindset than gender, although women groups tend to be behind such nonsense. (million mom march)

(i.e. women's groups were a big driving force behind prohibition in the 20's)
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Litigious on March 11, 2007, 03:45:40 AM
My mom told me that they mentioned this on Swedish TV last night. The comments were overwhelmingly negative. Big surprise!  ::)

Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: DirtDawg on March 11, 2007, 05:45:52 AM
What difference does it make if there are male or female leaders?

Based on my experience, the quality of women leaders varies more than men. A few women NCO's and officers I dealt with in the Marines were top notch. Many were bitchy, catty pieces of shit though.

From the standpoint of a military commander, you have a better chance of good leadership from a man than you do a woman.

I know very little about other countries, but, the reason this is so in the US military is that, it is quite a straightforward process to identify a man, who you think is unfit for promotion into a position of higher authority, and eliminate him from contention and never have worry if you will be challenged to support your assessment. It happens often, although probably not often enough. However, if you deny a promotion to a seemingly qualified woman there is much more documentation to submit with the EREC evaluation (Army, don't know the Marine equivalent. I photographed the local EREC's needs for three years, before they closed Fort Harrison. I got to know a couple of officers, stationed on post.), just to cover your own ass and not be called on for unfair treatment of female officers.

Having to answer for an appeal of one of your decisions may result in having a decision you made overturned by an angry woman who outranks you. That would be bad enough, for you, but in a time of recruiting only from a volunteer pool, the public image must remain "spotless" and having a bunch of women running around saying they were skipped over for promotion would look really bad. They have to prevent that at all costs. The female officers files were almost always two boxes instead of just one, half full, from all the extra documentation that was teid to her career. The climate of thinking in the military brass, against the public perceiveing any lack of support for female officers, especially, has made the possibility of an unqualified female officer, "manning" a post, much more likely than it would have been if all officers, of either gender, were truly treated equally. Unfortunate, but that's the way it was explained to me by a full bird, I worked with.


... but you guys are full of shit, if you think women don't like guns or that women are afraid of them. There are enough women with guns, just under the Texas star, to offset your position on Europe, I would bet. I believe the difference in many European people is from a little leftover brainwashing by various dictators, over the years. At least that makes more sense than some idea that feminization of a government, which has no gender, is the cause of people giving up freedoms, so readily.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Litigious on March 11, 2007, 06:20:17 AM
... but you guys are full of shit, if you think women don't like guns or that women are afraid of them. There are enough women with guns, just under the Texas star, to offset your position on Europe, I would bet. I believe the difference in many European people is from a little leftover brainwashing by various dictators, over the years. At least that makes more sense than some idea that feminization of a government, which has no gender, is the cause of people giving up freedoms, so readily.

I more believe in McJagger's theory that the two Worldwars some way made people hate and fear guns. Plus my own theory of the peace movement, because you can read in books and newspapers from already before WWI that guns were looked upon very negatively by many people here. The Scandinavian countries weren't dictatorships when the first gun laws came here, neither was the UK. I very much doubt that most Europeans would still believe in gun laws that were made by Hitler and Stalin. Formally, the Nazis liberalized the gun law, by the way, but not in reality.

German Weapons Law of March 18, 1938 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Weapons_Law)
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: McGiver on March 11, 2007, 06:53:11 AM
i think the peace movement had alot to do with the gun laws as well.

though the peace movement started, as a result, of the world wars.... and John Lennon.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Litigious on March 11, 2007, 07:09:07 AM
Actually, there was a peace movement in Europe already at the end of the 19th Century. Many of the founders were Swedes, ironically actually some of them were producers and inventors of guns themselves, like Alfred Nobel. He's one of the inventors of smokeless gun powder, that is still used today, and, of course, of dynamite.

Those countries in Europe where people are rather positive to guns and carry them, legally or illegally, are those countries that had to fight hardest for their freedom. The views on guns are much more positive in eastern and southern Europe than in northern and western. Greeks are among those Europeans that are most positive to guns. They say that every man on Crete gets a pistol on his 18th birthday.  8)
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: McGiver on March 11, 2007, 07:12:31 AM
as odeon would say, "those Crete-ons!"
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Litigious on March 11, 2007, 07:16:04 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: DirtDawg on March 11, 2007, 07:20:29 AM
i think the peace movement had alot to do with the gun laws as well.

though the peace movement started, as a result, of the world wars.... and John Lennon.

You are probably right, but don't blame it all on John Lennon. The last time he had a hit, it was the pavement. The peace movement, in the sixties, included most musicians and quite a number of Jane Fondas from Hollywood, not to mention a left-leaning Congress.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Litigious on March 11, 2007, 07:30:36 AM
Most European gun laws are from the time between the Worldwars. The legislation is probably due to the fact that extremist groups in many European countries were fighting each other openly in the streets, like in Germany or Ireland.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: DirtDawg on March 11, 2007, 08:36:22 AM
Most European gun laws are from the time between the Worldwars. The legislation is probably due to the fact that extremist groups in many European countries were fighting each other openly in the streets, like in Germany or Ireland.

That makes no sense, although, you are probably right, still/again. So, just as they were in dire need of issuing weapons and training some civilians in the use of weaponry, the bright idea to take legal guns away from law abiding citizens was the foremost article in their solution. That sounds just crazy enough to work, right?.

(We really should try to get to the bottom of this.)
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Litigious on March 11, 2007, 09:00:47 AM
That makes no sense, although, you are probably right, still/again. So, just as they were in dire need of issuing weapons and training some civilians in the use of weaponry, the bright idea to take legal guns away from law abiding citizens was the foremost article in their solution. That sounds just crazy enough to work, right?.

Yes. That's the way they still handle gun issues in Europe. Criminals from the former Communist countries in eastern Europe are immigrating to countries in western and northern Europe, especially Sweden, since it's known to be the most naïve country in Europe. Not one of them has a gun legally. They steal them or smuggle them into the country. Every time there is a crime with guns involved, the politicians tighten up the law, or at least try to tighten it up. For law abiding people. And the legal gun owners accept this! As for one hand guns, you can still have a license for them legally, but the authorities are trying to find any excuse to deny an applicant a license. A license needs to be renewed every fifth year, and if you don't, you might be charged for gun crime. And the license is at most a license to keep the gun in your home, in a very heavy gun lock. And the cops may visit your home at any time to check that you keep your gun properly. There is no right to carry whatsoever. And even if you use your licensed gun to defend yourself in your own home, where you have the right to have it, you might end up in jail for "excessive self-defense"....

Quote from: DirtDawg
(We really should try to get to the bottom of this.)

I know. But I think most Europeans are brainwashed beyond rescue, not by dictators but by "democratic" politicians, who oppose the citizens' right to defend themselves like free men.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Pyraxis on March 11, 2007, 04:13:20 PM
I know very little about other countries, but, the reason this is so in the US military is that, it is quite a straightforward process to identify a man, who you think is unfit for promotion into a position of higher authority, and eliminate him from contention and never have worry if you will be challenged to support your assessment. (...) The climate of thinking in the military brass, against the public perceiveing any lack of support for female officers, especially, has made the possibility of an unqualified female officer, "manning" a post, much more likely than it would have been if all officers, of either gender, were truly treated equally.

Fascinating. I know that it's standard for movements that integrate a previously marginalized group to go overboard and swing too far in the opposite direction. But I hadn't realized that the USA military was currently at that stage. Among civilians (in Indiana, which is, granted, a pretty conservative chunk of the USA) I've still heard a lot of guys doubting women's basic fitness for combat and leadership. Am I correct in thinking that the extreme measures of paperwork and bureaucratic ass-covering are still necessary to protect women's rights, or is the military hitting the point where it's safe to ease up without slipping backwards?
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Scrapheap on March 11, 2007, 04:58:46 PM
I've still heard a lot of guys doubting women's basic fitness for combat and leadership.

Many women ARE unfit for combat. I've been out in the field with them. The only thing deadly about many women soldiers is how bad they stink after 5 days without a shower.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Pyraxis on March 11, 2007, 05:02:13 PM
Many women ARE unfit for combat. I've been out in the field with them. The only thing deadly about many women soldiers is how bad they stink after 5 days without a shower.

What was it about them that was unfit for combat? What you said makes it sound like they were reluctant to cause hurt?
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Scrapheap on March 12, 2007, 12:30:07 AM
Many women ARE unfit for combat. I've been out in the field with them. The only thing deadly about many women soldiers is how bad they stink after 5 days without a shower.

What was it about them that was unfit for combat? What you said makes it sound like they were reluctant to cause hurt?

It varies on a case-by-case basis. More of the women only seemed to be there just to collect a paycheck and get free healthcare.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Litigious on March 12, 2007, 04:51:32 AM
There are some women who volunteer for the Swedish army. They're actually serious about it, since healthcare is relatively cheap and in some cases even free here for every citizen, and they could earn much more money elsewhere. But those women to me seem like really mean and dominating bitches with a very great ego and greed for power.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: McGiver on March 12, 2007, 05:51:17 AM
my sister in law married a marine for his prescription drug benefits.

the marriage lasted about 2 months.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Litigious on March 12, 2007, 06:14:17 AM
my sister in law married a marine for his prescription drug benefits.

the marriage lasted about 2 months.

Tell her to marry a Swede, if she wants cheap prescription drugs. After we've paid about $250, we get free prescription drugs for a year, counted from the first prescription.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Callaway on March 12, 2007, 06:19:41 AM
my sister in law married a marine for his prescription drug benefits.

the marriage lasted about 2 months.

Tell her to marry a Swede, if she wants cheap prescription drugs. After we've paid about $250, we get free prescription drugs for a year, counted from the first prescription.

Wow.  We have really good medical insurance and we pay over $100 per month for copays for our daughter's prescriptions.  The actual cost of her medication without insurance would be a lot more, though.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: McGiver on March 12, 2007, 06:25:51 AM
each prescription refill costs me exactly $1.



you read that right, just one dollar.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Litigious on March 12, 2007, 06:27:18 AM
my sister in law married a marine for his prescription drug benefits.

the marriage lasted about 2 months.

Tell her to marry a Swede, if she wants cheap prescription drugs. After we've paid about $250, we get free prescription drugs for a year, counted from the first prescription.

Wow.  We have really good medical insurance and we pay over $100 per month for copays for our daughter's prescriptions.  The actual cost of her medication without insurance would be a lot more, though.

The health care system is one of the reasons that I haven't tried to migrate from Sweden. Dental care is totally free for everyone below the age of 20. Specialist medical care costs about 40$, and when you've paid about $120, it's free for a year from the first visit, like the precsription drugs. X-rays and STDs are totally free, since they're considered a matter of "national health".
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Litigious on March 12, 2007, 06:28:05 AM
each prescription refill costs me exactly $1.



you read that right, just one dollar.

But you have some kind of insurance for that, don't you?
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: McGiver on March 12, 2007, 06:31:30 AM
each prescription refill costs me exactly $1.



you read that right, just one dollar.

But you have some kind of insurance for that, don't you?
my health and welfare is negotiated by my union every six years.

also, my medical benefits include $10 million dollar cap, per person covered.  which means myself and my four family members can each spend up to $10 million dollars and visit the best specialists, should the need arise.

two years i had a bowel obstruction.  surgery and hospital cost a quarter million dollars.  we have no co-pay, and my out of pocket expense was nada.

live better, work union.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Litigious on March 12, 2007, 06:37:15 AM
You don't have to pay for necessary operations here, just for the time you spend in hospital, which is relatively cheap. Ambulance transports are also free or cost a symbolic sum.

But I agree that that's a very good system for you and your family. That's the kind of thing about the US that they rarely mention on the news here. They usually rant about your engagement in Iraq or what gun freaks you are and things like that.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: DirtDawg on March 12, 2007, 07:49:04 AM
my sister in law married a marine for his prescription drug benefits.

the marriage lasted about 2 months.

Tell her to marry a Swede, if she wants cheap prescription drugs. After we've paid about $250, we get free prescription drugs for a year, counted from the first prescription.

Wow.  We have really good medical insurance and we pay over $100 per month for copays for our daughter's prescriptions.  The actual cost of her medication without insurance would be a lot more, though.

The health care system is one of the reasons that I haven't tried to migrate from Sweden. Dental care is totally free for everyone below the age of 20. Specialist medical care costs about 40$, and when you've paid about $120, it's free for a year from the first visit, like the precsription drugs. X-rays and STDs are totally free, since they're considered a matter of "national health".

Sexually Transmitted Diseases? Free?
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Litigious on March 12, 2007, 07:50:49 AM
my sister in law married a marine for his prescription drug benefits.

the marriage lasted about 2 months.

Tell her to marry a Swede, if she wants cheap prescription drugs. After we've paid about $250, we get free prescription drugs for a year, counted from the first prescription.

Wow.  We have really good medical insurance and we pay over $100 per month for copays for our daughter's prescriptions.  The actual cost of her medication without insurance would be a lot more, though.

The health care system is one of the reasons that I haven't tried to migrate from Sweden. Dental care is totally free for everyone below the age of 20. Specialist medical care costs about 40$, and when you've paid about $120, it's free for a year from the first visit, like the precsription drugs. X-rays and STDs are totally free, since they're considered a matter of "national health".

Sexually Transmitted Diseases? Free?

I mean the treatment of them. If the diseases themselves are free depends on how good you are at getting laid.  ;)
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: DirtDawg on March 12, 2007, 07:57:14 AM
:LMAO:
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Eamonn on March 12, 2007, 08:58:11 AM
A step on the motorway/highway from the original poster would be a step in the right direction. Same goes for nasty danlo and mcfagger.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Scrapheap on March 12, 2007, 01:27:15 PM
A step on the motorway/highway from the original poster would be a step in the right direction. Same goes for nasty danlo and mcfagger.

"a step" would only put you on the shoulder genius!! Why don't you take a long walk off a short pier.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: McGiver on March 12, 2007, 01:37:58 PM
A step on the motorway/highway from the original poster would be a step in the right direction. Same goes for nasty danlo and mcfagger.


i didn't think that it would be this easy to make you my bitch!


you are full of surprises.


high five, scrap.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Eamonn on March 12, 2007, 02:05:58 PM
A step on the motorway/highway from the original poster would be a step in the right direction. Same goes for nasty danlo and mcfagger.

"a step" would only put you on the shoulder genius!! Why don't you take a long walk off a short pier.

If it's a short pier i'd be sure to survive the fall, smart guy. Why dont you unload a colt in your mouth.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Danlo on March 12, 2007, 03:49:07 PM
A step on the motorway/highway from the original poster would be a step in the right direction. Same goes for nasty danlo and mcfagger.

"a step" would only put you on the shoulder genius!! Why don't you take a long walk off a short pier.

If it's a short pier i'd be sure to survive the fall, smart guy. Why dont you unload a colt in your mouth.
And THIS is the guy that claims McJ's and my intelligence is way beneath his?  ::) Short means length, not height. Also, a pier leads into the water so for the fall to kill you it'd have to be waaaay high. It's the drowning that's supposed to kill you, genius.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Eamonn on March 12, 2007, 03:56:31 PM
A step on the motorway/highway from the original poster would be a step in the right direction. Same goes for nasty danlo and mcfagger.

"a step" would only put you on the shoulder genius!! Why don't you take a long walk off a short pier.

If it's a short pier i'd be sure to survive the fall, smart guy. Why dont you unload a colt in your mouth.
And THIS is the guy that claims McJ's and my intelligence is way beneath his?  ::) Short means length, not height. Also, a pier leads into the water so for the fall to kill you it'd have to be waaaay high. It's the drowning that's supposed to kill you, genius.

Hah, havent you seen "Butch Cassiday and the Sundance kid", They jump off of  pie from high up into a riverr and survive despite the kid's inability to swim. That means that my death from similar circumstances is most unlikely, wise ass. LOL, pwned again.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: duncvis on March 12, 2007, 04:02:30 PM
Either you really are a wee Buckfast-addled mong or you're unfamiliar with the idea that to pwn someone you have to either a) be funny, or b) have a genuine point. Quick, look behind you smurfboy! Its Gargomel and that fucking cat come to pwn your little blue arse.  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Eamonn on March 12, 2007, 07:42:32 PM
Either you really are a wee Buckfast-addled mong or you're unfamiliar with the idea that to pwn someone you have to either a) be funny, or b) have a genuine point. Quick, look behind you smurfboy! Its Gargomel and that fucking cat come to pwn your little blue arse.  :evillaugh:

You are quite possibly the most clueless fat lazy thick piece of yorkshire underclass shite that i have ever had the misfortune to come across. I like fat ego-inflated men like you. They make more noise when i pwnerize them, and sometimes they dont get up again from being taken down a peg or two.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: duncvis on March 12, 2007, 08:06:26 PM
You don't stand a chance, Smurfette. You couldn't pwnerize a brain-damaged Wet Wet Wet fan chained to a park bench. Overambitious little haggis fucker. :eyebrows:
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: duncvis on March 12, 2007, 08:16:28 PM
Quote from: Eamoron
Did i give you permission to delete our last two posts just because i was showing you up for the slabbering idiot you clearly are? Dont do it again, fat man. Anyway, dull as you lot are i give you ten out of ten for spasticated belligerence and lack of a life factor for constantly giving backchat without cessation. In your little mind i suppose you feel you've won by such non-stop shit-spouting mumbo jumbo. Well ok little boy, you can have the last word if it means that much to you.

Nice try. Deleted my arse - I'll be happy to screenshot the mod log if you like. You never could take back what you attempt to dish out could you smurfboy? just increasing tired attempts at cutting insults and hollow bragging. Don't forget your lollipop Eamoron. Toodles! :penis:
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Eamonn on March 12, 2007, 08:19:33 PM
You don't stand a chance, Smurfette. You couldn't pwnerize a brain-damaged Wet Wet Wet fan chained to a park bench. Overambitious little haggis fucker. :eyebrows:

 I never alleged that i could. Pwnerizing a short fat sweaty pig unwashed emo wee joy division fan should be easy, though. Especially when their from the most godforsaken chav-filled armpit of the universe cider swigging backwards dueelling banjo area that your from.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: duncvis on March 12, 2007, 08:22:41 PM
You'd think so, wouldn't you? Gis a shout when you have some decent material and see if you can manage it 'big' man. *cough*
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Eamonn on March 12, 2007, 08:37:50 PM
You'd think so, wouldn't you? Gis a shout when you have some decent material and see if you can manage it 'big' man. *cough*

Done it already without even trying. You dont even need my help much. You are self-pwned all the way you lazy fat cunt that likes to get touched by scrapheap's noodly appendage.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: duncvis on March 12, 2007, 08:40:46 PM
Can't say I'm feeling it. You must need to reload yer spud gun, o puny wannabe pwnerizer. :zzz:
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Eamonn on March 12, 2007, 08:47:47 PM
Can't say I'm feeling it. You must need to reload yer spud gun, o puny wannabe pwnerizer. :zzz:

They say that retardedness dulls the senses and ability to percept the reality of situations.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Scrapheap on March 12, 2007, 08:54:52 PM
A step on the motorway/highway from the original poster would be a step in the right direction. Same goes for nasty danlo and mcfagger.

"a step" would only put you on the shoulder genius!! Why don't you take a long walk off a short pier.

If it's a short pier i'd be sure to survive the fall, smart guy. Why dont you unload a colt in your mouth.

Yes, but the pier would be off the coast of California where you would fall into the PACIFIC ocean where a great white shark will be waiting for you. Of course you WOULD likely survive this since the shark would likely mistake you for a piece of whale shit.  :poop:
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Scrapheap on March 12, 2007, 08:56:27 PM
What do you think guys ?? Has eamoron been fully pwned ??
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: duncvis on March 12, 2007, 08:58:01 PM
What do you think guys ?? Has eamoron been fully pwned ??

I think its pretty obvious he's all out of ammo, but he won't see it:

They say that retardedness dulls the senses and ability to percept the reality of situations.

:smarty:
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Eamonn on March 12, 2007, 09:02:30 PM
What do you think guys ?? Has eamoron been fully pwned ??

The day i get fully pwned off of a knuckle-scraping cocklicking empty-headed pondscu,m dirty son of a bitch like you will be the day when i would jump off a pier. If i asked any of you to do the same you'd all probably ask mcjagger how high.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Scrapheap on March 12, 2007, 09:05:55 PM
What do you think guys ?? Has eamoron been fully pwned ??

The day i get fully pwned off of a knuckle-scraping cocklicking empty-headed pondscu,m dirty son of a bitch like you will be the day when i would jump off a pier.

How far are you from water right now ??
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Scrapheap on May 19, 2007, 01:48:28 PM
danlo
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: McGiver on May 19, 2007, 04:30:53 PM
danlo
you know that he searches for his name and they are the only posts that he visits.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Scrapheap on May 19, 2007, 04:45:38 PM
danlo
you know that he searches for his name and they are the only posts that he visits.

Shhhhhh!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Danlo on May 29, 2007, 09:20:05 AM
Yes, that's right. I only visit the posts with my name or it's popular variants. Danlo, dhanlo, dahnlow etc. Btw Scrapheap, my beady eyes don't need the name in bold for me to find it. It's the only important word on these forums, and the search function finds it every time.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: The_P on May 29, 2007, 09:23:52 AM
Yes, that's right. I only visit the posts with my name or it's popular variants. Danlo, dhanlo, dahnlow etc. Btw Scrapheap, my beady eyes don't need the name in bold for me to find it. It's the only important word on these forums, and the search function finds it every time.

Would've been more momentous if you saved this for Christmas this year.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: McGiver on May 29, 2007, 02:05:53 PM
danlo, we are truly blessed whenever you stop by.
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Scrapheap on May 31, 2007, 10:54:40 PM
Yes, that's right. I only visit the posts with my name or it's popular variants. Danlo, dhanlo, dahnlow etc. Btw Scrapheap, my beady eyes don't need the name in bold for me to find it. It's the only important word on these forums, and the search function finds it every time.

danlo
Title: Re: Step in the right direction.
Post by: Leto729 on June 01, 2007, 05:36:58 AM
Yes, that's right. I only visit the posts with my name or it's popular variants. Danlo, dhanlo, dahnlow etc. Btw Scrapheap, my beady eyes don't need the name in bold for me to find it. It's the only important word on these forums, and the search function finds it every time.

danlo
Now I can see this even without My bifocals.