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Re: The Truth Behind The Gates Of Auschwitz
« Reply #255 on: November 01, 2014, 02:31:45 PM »
Not exactly sure how the 'power of our current science' could be applied to this

They could all be dug up and forensic science used to count them.  :zoinks:
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Re: The Truth Behind The Gates Of Auschwitz
« Reply #256 on: November 02, 2014, 03:30:50 AM »
I can get how someone not living on the European continent can question the numbers. It is massive. Doesn't matter if it was somewhat less or somewhat more than 6 million, it is massive and horrid none the less.
On the European continent that means that in many cities and towns, there is no or hardly a Jewish community left, since WWII. Synagogues have been turned into exhibition rooms or things like that.

No way all those people migrated to Israel. They are gone, and they are gone for good.

It isn't the first, it won't be the last genocide happening. It is the first genocide that happened in such an industrialised way.

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The numbers actually do matter, and i'm sick of people saying they don't.

I used "somewhat" wasn't talking about a million less or more.


I know, but the truth is there is no set number. I think that's ridiculous to be honest.

FFS, read up on why this is the case first. :facepalm:

I have, and it isn't good enough. With the power of our current science, we should be able to find a much more solid truth.

Not exactly sure how the 'power of our current science' could be applied to this

I'd love to know.
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Re: The Truth Behind The Gates Of Auschwitz
« Reply #257 on: November 02, 2014, 05:13:05 AM »
I can get how someone not living on the European continent can question the numbers. It is massive. Doesn't matter if it was somewhat less or somewhat more than 6 million, it is massive and horrid none the less.
On the European continent that means that in many cities and towns, there is no or hardly a Jewish community left, since WWII. Synagogues have been turned into exhibition rooms or things like that.

No way all those people migrated to Israel. They are gone, and they are gone for good.

It isn't the first, it won't be the last genocide happening. It is the first genocide that happened in such an industrialised way.

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The numbers actually do matter, and i'm sick of people saying they don't.

I used "somewhat" wasn't talking about a million less or more.


I know, but the truth is there is no set number. I think that's ridiculous to be honest.

FFS, read up on why this is the case first. :facepalm:

I have, and it isn't good enough. With the power of our current science, we should be able to find a much more solid truth.

Not exactly sure how the 'power of our current science' could be applied to this

I'd love to know.

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Re: The Truth Behind The Gates Of Auschwitz
« Reply #258 on: November 02, 2014, 02:50:11 PM »
When I first started studying the numbers I found it fascinating that the kooks would question the six million figure and then downplay the holocaust based on their opinion that the figure was less. As if one or two or three million would somehow make it something less than an atrocity.

And then, of course, there's the type of kook that denies the holocaust altogether, like the OP of this thread. If you want to know what I think about those, read this thread and the others that Illusion started or posted in.

And there's the Benji type, eagerly parroting others but failing to produce an original thought of any kind. The type of kook that just knows that there is a conspiracy of some kind to be promoted but is too dim to put any of it into any sort of coherence.

Your ignorance is embarrassing  :facepalm2:  When did you first start, yesterday?  The 6 million number has been drilled into people's heads since the 1960's, ever since the US really tied the knot with Israel, aka the 1967, Six Day War.  Before that, only one real book was written on the Nazi Holocaust, by Raul Hilberg in 1961.  His figure in that was 5.1 million.  Maybe he was counting the 4 Million plaque at Auschwitz, which has since been changed to 1 million.  Now my maths isn't great, but not sure how the 6 million figure remains the same  :scratchhead:  Then there's the gas chambers, and there not being a shred of evidence to prove it.  As well as people lying about it, including the BBC, who decided to add "gas chambers" to the subtitles of what a German soldier said he saw in the camp.  Why lie?

It's all about Israel, which Finkelstein proves in the book.  Guilt tripping propaganda, so any criticism of Israel's murderous policies can be countered with The Holocaust and Anti Semite slurs.  An ex Israeli foreign minister even admitted this.

If it was only a million does that make it okay?

1 person is 1 too many.  But the Holocaust Industry have made it a crime in some countries to say it's less than 6 million, which is actually true.  They have added millions of phantom deaths to create more guilt, so that people don't criticize Israel when they go on a murderous rampage.  It's repulsive.

I'm pretty sure Israel has used, and still uses, the Holocaust to further their own agenda, but that doesn't mean they added "millions of phantom deaths".

You do know that if you add other groups to the head count, the numbers are significantly higher, right?

I feel a bit sorry for you, actually. It is as if the real world isn't enough for you.

They have, it's common knowledge.  Actually yeah, that was probably the wrong way to put it.  Though it's pretty certain they've lied about the way they were killed. 

What, like the kind of groups that ancient aliens didn't want mentioned in Holocaust museums? 

You think the real world is what you see on FOX news, that's the real tragedy.
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Re: The Truth Behind The Gates Of Auschwitz
« Reply #259 on: November 02, 2014, 02:51:08 PM »
And hang on.  If you'd known about the book and lawsuit, you wouldn't have accused me of tinfoilism.  You're a fucking liar.

Oh, I see. You mean that anyone who knows about the book and the lawsuit is bound to agree with your conspiracy theories? You're fun.

I know about Area 51, too. I just don't buy it.

What "conspiracy theories"?  When I said that the Holocaust Industry had lied and made distortions about the Nazi Holocaust, you accused me of tinfoilism, then I proved my point, so then you said you knew about it anyway.  Fucking man up and just admit you were wrong and you're outrageously ignorant.

You proved your point how? By equalling the fact that there is a book and a lawsuit, both of which I knew about, with proof of your tinfoilism? Sorry, it takes more than that. A lot more.

You remain a kook and of little importance beyond the entertainment value.

You knew nothing about either, which you proved by denying there had been lies and distortions.  You're a fact denier.

Another fail. Where did I deny there haven't been lies and distortions? There have been plenty of them but we don't agree on who is lying.

Who's lying?  Gimme some names.
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Re: The Truth Behind The Gates Of Auschwitz
« Reply #260 on: November 02, 2014, 03:04:29 PM »
When I first started studying the numbers I found it fascinating that the kooks would question the six million figure and then downplay the holocaust based on their opinion that the figure was less. As if one or two or three million would somehow make it something less than an atrocity.

And then, of course, there's the type of kook that denies the holocaust altogether, like the OP of this thread. If you want to know what I think about those, read this thread and the others that Illusion started or posted in.

And there's the Benji type, eagerly parroting others but failing to produce an original thought of any kind. The type of kook that just knows that there is a conspiracy of some kind to be promoted but is too dim to put any of it into any sort of coherence.

Your ignorance is embarrassing  :facepalm2:  When did you first start, yesterday?  The 6 million number has been drilled into people's heads since the 1960's, ever since the US really tied the knot with Israel, aka the 1967, Six Day War.  Before that, only one real book was written on the Nazi Holocaust, by Raul Hilberg in 1961.  His figure in that was 5.1 million.  Maybe he was counting the 4 Million plaque at Auschwitz, which has since been changed to 1 million.  Now my maths isn't great, but not sure how the 6 million figure remains the same  :scratchhead:  Then there's the gas chambers, and there not being a shred of evidence to prove it.  As well as people lying about it, including the BBC, who decided to add "gas chambers" to the subtitles of what a German soldier said he saw in the camp.  Why lie?

It's all about Israel, which Finkelstein proves in the book.  Guilt tripping propaganda, so any criticism of Israel's murderous policies can be countered with The Holocaust and Anti Semite slurs.  An ex Israeli foreign minister even admitted this.

I suspect I'm about twice your age, so I suppose I started long before you were born.

But let's reiterate some of the basics. The six million Jews figure is usually attributed to Eichmann. He was quoted at the Nuremberg trials by an SS officer. About half of that number is *documented* by the Holocaust centre in Jerusalem but IIRC, they do not offer an exact number of the total Jews killed.

I believe there were early Russian numbers that went beyond the six million figure but were countered by an early British study and book that claimed a bit more than 4 million. There's the Hilberg book that you mentioned, and a German scholarly work that I believe confirms the Eichmann numbers. There's the Holocaust Encyclopaedia that I think also cites a six million figure. There's a later work by Dawidowicz that I believe disregarded Hilberg's work and caused a controversy, but quoted similar numbers. And there are many more modern additions, of course.

Additionally, there are quite a few films made on the subject, including some very well received documentaries--there is a French documentary made in the 80s that I came across at a festival, for example, that is very interesting. Can't remember the name, though. There are several Shoah foundations, including Spielberg's Holocaust documentation project, and there are several active scholarly studies going on.

My point is that there is a *lot* of information out there. Most of it easily accessible, these days, rather unlike the situation in the 50s, 60s and 70s (when I first started reading up on the subject). And yet, what you seem to focus on are the nutjobs (hint: an Israeli minister is most likely not an authority to be trusted, one way or another; Israel as a political entity does have an agenda beyond scholarly studies, as do most other political entities).

But you could have looked up all this, easily. I suspect these are simply the links you ignored.

See that's better, you made some kind of effort.  Wasn't so hard was it mate? 

You seem very naive for an OAP.

So that's what you base it on, hearsay?!  Yeah, Eichmann was meant to have told some guy who was most likely tortured into a "confession".  I guess that's good enough.  "The Holocaust center" and propaganda disgraces like that cannot be taken seriously.  Holocaust centers in the US tried to stop Gypsies and the disabled being mentioned, and wanted it to just be about Jews. 

So no one knows the number, which is clear.   Yet the 6 million number is continuously drilled into minds across the world.  Anything involving The Holocaust is going to be well received, and it's funny you mention Speilberg's debacle, which I showed you an extract of before, where it's shown that he has made someone lie for his Hollywood production.  Zisblatt lies and lies in the documentary, and she's not the only one.  It speaks volumes that you take hoax's like that seriously.  As they say "there's no business like Shoa business".  Speilberg should be locked up.

And we musn't forget the 6 million Jews between 1915-38.  They seem to like that number   :zoinks:



I'm not "focusing on the nutjobs", i'm focusing on the facts, which is difficult, cause there isn't many.  "The Holocaust" wasn't mentioned until the 1960's, when the US formed their strong alliance with Israel.

 " (hint: an Israeli minister is most likely not an authority to be trusted, one way or another; Israel as a political entity does have an agenda beyond scholarly studies, as do most other political entities)." 


Right, they can only be trusted when they tell us about The Holocaust.  She can be trusted, because she's speaking the truth, which has been proven by scholars like Finkelstein anyway.  Lol, no course not, no agenda!  That's why people like Shimon Peres denied the Armenian genocide.  He didn't want other victims being spoken of.  And Ariel Sharon saying that Israel controls the US.

So your "proof" seems to be mostly to...

* Rely on authorities (in your case Finkelstein)
* Distrust anything having to do with Israel (an Israeli scholar can be ignored because they have rotten politicians)
* Assume the SS officer must have been tortured (I notice how you don't actually try to prove anything)
* Question Spielberg's whole project based on one testimony
* Use catchy phrases like "no business like shoa business", no doubt parroted, name calling, etc
* Muddy the waters by questioning the ethnic group by producing irrelevant statements

Did I forget something? :zoinks:

Fail.

You couldn't counter a single thing I put in that last post, but in you're world, that's success?   :lol1:

Well at least your tried, a bit...

*I don't rely on "Finkelstein", I rely on the official sources he provides. 
* Not at all, I trust Israeli scholars like Illan Pappe, Miko Peled and Avi Shlaim.
* Are you denying the torturing during the trials?
* Not "one testimony".  As I said, she wasn't the only one.  And it is clear to see that Speilberg has paid her to lie.  There's endless bullshit.  African Americans claiming they liberated a camp they weren't even near.
* You're above all that.
* What?
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Re: The Truth Behind The Gates Of Auschwitz
« Reply #261 on: November 02, 2014, 03:15:21 PM »
I can get how someone not living on the European continent can question the numbers. It is massive. Doesn't matter if it was somewhat less or somewhat more than 6 million, it is massive and horrid none the less.
On the European continent that means that in many cities and towns, there is no or hardly a Jewish community left, since WWII. Synagogues have been turned into exhibition rooms or things like that.

No way all those people migrated to Israel. They are gone, and they are gone for good.

It isn't the first, it won't be the last genocide happening. It is the first genocide that happened in such an industrialised way.

If you say it wasn't 6 million, you are a Holocaust denier and could be locked up in some countries. 

True, they migrated to Palestine.  Many German Jews migrated to Palestine in a deal between ancient aliens and Nazi Germany.  And that's just the legal ones.  They were deported all over the place, and would end up in Palestine/Israel after 1948.  It'd be interesting to know if some of the "dead", were migrants who changed their names to more Hebrew sounding ones, once they'd migrated to Palestine.  The plan to get Jews out of Europe had started decades before WWII, with the Jewish question.  Part of that was down to the anti Jewishness in places like Russia, where they were blamed for the Tsar's death, and the other part was about Jews not wanting to lose "their identity" among us Europeans.  Ben-Gurion talked about being able to get away with things you wouldn't normally be able to in the "times of war".  Lol, and some of that is down to so many "Jews" rejecting Judaism, and seeing Orthodox Jews as dinosaurs. 

Bollocks.  It's just the only one that is talked about every single day.
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Re: The Truth Behind The Gates Of Auschwitz
« Reply #262 on: November 02, 2014, 03:20:36 PM »
I can get how someone not living on the European continent can question the numbers. It is massive. Doesn't matter if it was somewhat less or somewhat more than 6 million, it is massive and horrid none the less.
On the European continent that means that in many cities and towns, there is no or hardly a Jewish community left, since WWII. Synagogues have been turned into exhibition rooms or things like that.

No way all those people migrated to Israel. They are gone, and they are gone for good.

It isn't the first, it won't be the last genocide happening. It is the first genocide that happened in such an industrialised way.

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The numbers actually do matter, and i'm sick of people saying they don't.

I used "somewhat" wasn't talking about a million less or more.


I know, but the truth is there is no set number. I think that's ridiculous to be honest.

FFS, read up on why this is the case first. :facepalm:

I have, and it isn't good enough. With the power of our current science, we should be able to find a much more solid truth.

It's not allowed to be investigated, for good reasons.
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Fatality waits in the wings
Surrounded by fools behind walls that are breached
Beware of the jester that sings"


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Re: The Truth Behind The Gates Of Auschwitz
« Reply #263 on: November 02, 2014, 03:35:28 PM »
It's not allowed to be investigated, for good reasons.

Perhaps not in some European countries but it can be investigated in the US and other places.

FFS, both you and Rage need to buy Michael Shermer's book and see why this is a bunch of nonsense.

He addresses all the "points" you bring up that none of us here have the patience with you to do.

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Re: The Truth Behind The Gates Of Auschwitz
« Reply #264 on: November 02, 2014, 03:39:18 PM »
It's not allowed to be investigated, for good reasons.

Perhaps not in some European countries but it can be investigated in the US and other places.

FFS, both you and Rage need to buy Michael Shermer's book and see why this is a bunch of nonsense.

He addresses all the "points" you bring up that none of us here have the patience with you to do.

By who?  They will be deported or arrested, or both. 

You don't sound like you've read it yourself. 
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"When men lead by words that are false as they preach
Fatality waits in the wings
Surrounded by fools behind walls that are breached
Beware of the jester that sings"


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Re: The Truth Behind The Gates Of Auschwitz
« Reply #265 on: November 02, 2014, 03:42:44 PM »
It's not allowed to be investigated, for good reasons.

Perhaps not in some European countries but it can be investigated in the US and other places.

FFS, both you and Rage need to buy Michael Shermer's book and see why this is a bunch of nonsense.

He addresses all the "points" you bring up that none of us here have the patience with you to do.

By who?  They will be deported or arrested, or both.

:tinfoil:

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You don't sound like you've read it yourself.

I've read is a few times.  He has a whole chapter devoted to Holocause denial BS.

http://www.amazon.com/People-Believe-Weird-Things-Pseudoscience/dp/0805070893

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Re: The Truth Behind The Gates Of Auschwitz
« Reply #266 on: November 02, 2014, 04:40:58 PM »
Not sure what the tinfoil thing is for?  Are you in complete denial?  If you accused Muslims of trying to suppress something, would you just be doing it out of tinfoilism?  I guess if Muslims controlled your country, things would be the opposite. 

Well if you've read it a few times, counter some of the points, using what you've learned from the book.  I'm not like you, i'm not petrified of being wrong. 
"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"

"When men lead by words that are false as they preach
Fatality waits in the wings
Surrounded by fools behind walls that are breached
Beware of the jester that sings"


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Re: The Truth Behind The Gates Of Auschwitz
« Reply #267 on: November 03, 2014, 12:21:01 AM »
You think the real world is what you see on FOX news, that's the real tragedy.

The real tragedy is you. I don't watch FOX news.
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Re: The Truth Behind The Gates Of Auschwitz
« Reply #268 on: November 03, 2014, 12:24:37 AM »
When I first started studying the numbers I found it fascinating that the kooks would question the six million figure and then downplay the holocaust based on their opinion that the figure was less. As if one or two or three million would somehow make it something less than an atrocity.

And then, of course, there's the type of kook that denies the holocaust altogether, like the OP of this thread. If you want to know what I think about those, read this thread and the others that Illusion started or posted in.

And there's the Benji type, eagerly parroting others but failing to produce an original thought of any kind. The type of kook that just knows that there is a conspiracy of some kind to be promoted but is too dim to put any of it into any sort of coherence.

Your ignorance is embarrassing  :facepalm2:  When did you first start, yesterday?  The 6 million number has been drilled into people's heads since the 1960's, ever since the US really tied the knot with Israel, aka the 1967, Six Day War.  Before that, only one real book was written on the Nazi Holocaust, by Raul Hilberg in 1961.  His figure in that was 5.1 million.  Maybe he was counting the 4 Million plaque at Auschwitz, which has since been changed to 1 million.  Now my maths isn't great, but not sure how the 6 million figure remains the same  :scratchhead:  Then there's the gas chambers, and there not being a shred of evidence to prove it.  As well as people lying about it, including the BBC, who decided to add "gas chambers" to the subtitles of what a German soldier said he saw in the camp.  Why lie?

It's all about Israel, which Finkelstein proves in the book.  Guilt tripping propaganda, so any criticism of Israel's murderous policies can be countered with The Holocaust and Anti Semite slurs.  An ex Israeli foreign minister even admitted this.

I suspect I'm about twice your age, so I suppose I started long before you were born.

But let's reiterate some of the basics. The six million Jews figure is usually attributed to Eichmann. He was quoted at the Nuremberg trials by an SS officer. About half of that number is *documented* by the Holocaust centre in Jerusalem but IIRC, they do not offer an exact number of the total Jews killed.

I believe there were early Russian numbers that went beyond the six million figure but were countered by an early British study and book that claimed a bit more than 4 million. There's the Hilberg book that you mentioned, and a German scholarly work that I believe confirms the Eichmann numbers. There's the Holocaust Encyclopaedia that I think also cites a six million figure. There's a later work by Dawidowicz that I believe disregarded Hilberg's work and caused a controversy, but quoted similar numbers. And there are many more modern additions, of course.

Additionally, there are quite a few films made on the subject, including some very well received documentaries--there is a French documentary made in the 80s that I came across at a festival, for example, that is very interesting. Can't remember the name, though. There are several Shoah foundations, including Spielberg's Holocaust documentation project, and there are several active scholarly studies going on.

My point is that there is a *lot* of information out there. Most of it easily accessible, these days, rather unlike the situation in the 50s, 60s and 70s (when I first started reading up on the subject). And yet, what you seem to focus on are the nutjobs (hint: an Israeli minister is most likely not an authority to be trusted, one way or another; Israel as a political entity does have an agenda beyond scholarly studies, as do most other political entities).

But you could have looked up all this, easily. I suspect these are simply the links you ignored.

See that's better, you made some kind of effort.  Wasn't so hard was it mate? 

You seem very naive for an OAP.

So that's what you base it on, hearsay?!  Yeah, Eichmann was meant to have told some guy who was most likely tortured into a "confession".  I guess that's good enough.  "The Holocaust center" and propaganda disgraces like that cannot be taken seriously.  Holocaust centers in the US tried to stop Gypsies and the disabled being mentioned, and wanted it to just be about Jews. 

So no one knows the number, which is clear.   Yet the 6 million number is continuously drilled into minds across the world.  Anything involving The Holocaust is going to be well received, and it's funny you mention Speilberg's debacle, which I showed you an extract of before, where it's shown that he has made someone lie for his Hollywood production.  Zisblatt lies and lies in the documentary, and she's not the only one.  It speaks volumes that you take hoax's like that seriously.  As they say "there's no business like Shoa business".  Speilberg should be locked up.

And we musn't forget the 6 million Jews between 1915-38.  They seem to like that number   :zoinks:



I'm not "focusing on the nutjobs", i'm focusing on the facts, which is difficult, cause there isn't many.  "The Holocaust" wasn't mentioned until the 1960's, when the US formed their strong alliance with Israel.

 " (hint: an Israeli minister is most likely not an authority to be trusted, one way or another; Israel as a political entity does have an agenda beyond scholarly studies, as do most other political entities)." 


Right, they can only be trusted when they tell us about The Holocaust.  She can be trusted, because she's speaking the truth, which has been proven by scholars like Finkelstein anyway.  Lol, no course not, no agenda!  That's why people like Shimon Peres denied the Armenian genocide.  He didn't want other victims being spoken of.  And Ariel Sharon saying that Israel controls the US.

So your "proof" seems to be mostly to...

* Rely on authorities (in your case Finkelstein)
* Distrust anything having to do with Israel (an Israeli scholar can be ignored because they have rotten politicians)
* Assume the SS officer must have been tortured (I notice how you don't actually try to prove anything)
* Question Spielberg's whole project based on one testimony
* Use catchy phrases like "no business like shoa business", no doubt parroted, name calling, etc
* Muddy the waters by questioning the ethnic group by producing irrelevant statements

Did I forget something? :zoinks:

Fail.

You couldn't counter a single thing I put in that last post, but in you're world, that's success?   :lol1:

Well at least your tried, a bit...

*I don't rely on "Finkelstein", I rely on the official sources he provides. 
* Not at all, I trust Israeli scholars like Illan Pappe, Miko Peled and Avi Shlaim.
* Are you denying the torturing during the trials?
* Not "one testimony".  As I said, she wasn't the only one.  And it is clear to see that Speilberg has paid her to lie.  There's endless bullshit.  African Americans claiming they liberated a camp they weren't even near.
* You're above all that.
* What?

I love it how you still don't prove anything. Poor kook.
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Re: The Truth Behind The Gates Of Auschwitz
« Reply #269 on: November 03, 2014, 12:32:32 AM »
If you say it wasn't 6 million, you are a Holocaust denier and could be locked up in some countries. 

Priceless.
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