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Re: Torture in the US
« Reply #45 on: April 06, 2008, 01:55:04 PM »
Quote from: Pyraxis on April 06, 2008, 01:53:36 PM
Quote from: parts on April 06, 2008, 01:30:54 PM
Hay they got casinos out of it

Er. Not a tradeoff I'd want to take.

Well it wasn't like anybody in there immediate families had to deal with the shit
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Re: Torture in the US
« Reply #46 on: April 06, 2008, 01:55:14 PM »
I was mentally tortured by the British education system for 5 years
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Re: Torture in the US
« Reply #47 on: April 06, 2008, 01:57:26 PM »
The Polish education system is a much worse torture.
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Re: Torture in the US
« Reply #48 on: April 06, 2008, 01:58:40 PM »
Depends on the person
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Re: Torture in the US
« Reply #49 on: April 06, 2008, 01:58:52 PM »
Quote from: parts on April 06, 2008, 01:55:04 PM
Quote from: Pyraxis on April 06, 2008, 01:53:36 PM
Quote from: parts on April 06, 2008, 01:30:54 PM
Hay they got casinos out of it

Er. Not a tradeoff I'd want to take.

Well it wasn't like anybody in there immediate families had to deal with the shit

What do you mean? I thought Calandale was referring to the fact that the natives were double-crossed, killed, and systematically driven out of their lands.
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Re: Torture in the US
« Reply #50 on: April 06, 2008, 02:01:28 PM »
Quote from: Pyraxis on April 06, 2008, 01:58:52 PM
Quote from: parts on April 06, 2008, 01:55:04 PM
Quote from: Pyraxis on April 06, 2008, 01:53:36 PM
Quote from: parts on April 06, 2008, 01:30:54 PM
Hay they got casinos out of it

Er. Not a tradeoff I'd want to take.

Well it wasn't like anybody in there immediate families had to deal with the shit

What do you mean? I thought Calandale was referring to the fact that the natives were double-crossed, killed, and systematically driven out of their lands.
They were a long time ago about when my ancestors had the same thing happen to them when they were driven out of Ireland
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Re: Torture in the US
« Reply #51 on: April 06, 2008, 02:01:33 PM »
Quote from: parts on April 06, 2008, 01:53:54 PM
The mass produced torture as you call it gets little if any usable results.

I dunno. One hears contradictory evidence.

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Then again I am not so much against the bizarre stuff they did at abu ghraib with the nude pyramids and that lady laughing and pointing at their dicks

Though, those suffering it likely would have preferred
being waterboarded. Is keeping our 'consciences' clean
more important than not being crueler?
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Re: Torture in the US
« Reply #52 on: April 06, 2008, 02:02:32 PM »
Polski education system can make someone go insane.

Although the teachers are fun to fuck around with.
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Re: Torture in the US
« Reply #53 on: April 06, 2008, 02:03:13 PM »
Quote from: parts on April 06, 2008, 02:01:28 PM
They were a long time ago about when my ancestors had the same thing happen to them when they were driven out of Ireland

Ah - didn't realize you were defending your own ancestors.
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Re: Torture in the US
« Reply #54 on: April 06, 2008, 02:04:18 PM »
Quote from: parts on April 06, 2008, 02:01:28 PM

They were a long time ago about when my ancestors had the same thing happen to them when they were driven out of Ireland

Not exactly the same. The Irish were persecuted largely for religious reasons.
Not just whom they were, IIRC. Moreover, they didn't have a sovereign government,
who made solemn treaties which were then broken. Still, there are similarities. Ethnic
cleansing and all. And, it just wasn't considered a big deal then.
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Re: Torture in the US
« Reply #55 on: April 06, 2008, 02:06:09 PM »
Back then if you where not of the right background you where not considered human anyway
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Re: Torture in the US
« Reply #56 on: April 06, 2008, 02:07:39 PM »
Polish people were always persecuted in history.

They always had their land taken from them.
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Re: Torture in the US
« Reply #57 on: April 06, 2008, 02:08:56 PM »
Quote from: Turkey Vulture on April 06, 2008, 02:01:33 PM
Quote from: parts on April 06, 2008, 01:53:54 PM
The mass produced torture as you call it gets little if any usable results.

I dunno. One hears contradictory evidence.

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Then again I am not so much against the bizarre stuff they did at abu ghraib with the nude pyramids and that lady laughing and pointing at their dicks

Though, those suffering it likely would have preferred
being waterboarded. Is keeping our 'consciences' clean
more important than not being crueler?


Cruel is a matter of prospective
I'd import ham and beer for all their meals :zoinks:
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Re: Torture in the US
« Reply #58 on: April 06, 2008, 02:10:47 PM »
Quote from: parts on April 06, 2008, 02:06:09 PM
Back then if you where not of the right background you where not considered human anyway

I don't know how different it is now.
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Re: Torture in the US
« Reply #59 on: April 06, 2008, 02:12:23 PM »
Quote from: Gus on April 06, 2008, 02:07:39 PM
Polish people were always persecuted in history.

They always had their land taken from them.

Bullshit. If they hadn't seized so damned MUCH of it,
they wouldn't have turned into such a political mess.
Poland was dismembered for its political instability, not
because of any persecution (I'm not talking about the
brief WWII interlude here, which wasn't really about
persecution either).
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