Educational

Author Topic: Me...  (Read 5672 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Lucifer

  • Seraphic Elite
  • Elder
  • Almighty Postwhore
  • *****
  • Posts: 25050
  • Karma: 1544
  • Gender: Female
Re: Me...
« Reply #105 on: July 15, 2007, 11:10:36 AM »
i don't think shock tactics like that work, very much of the time.  you have to go where people are, not where you think they ought to be.  trust me on this - that's why i'm able to get things done, cos i use this principle all the time, when the shouty people fail.
Shock tactics work with the right people, and the right scenarios. Obviously you wouldnt use them in a speech something like that, it would promote the wrong image, but if you did it one on one with someone they can be quite effective. Also if you show it one and one, your conversation is deniable, so if it backfires it is a matter of "what conversation..."

sigh.  hadron, no offence, but you're talking to someone who's been doing for almomst twice as long as you've been alive.  please credit me with a little intelligence, experience, and discernment.  and integrity, when it comes to the last point you mentioned.
I am just suggesting strategy as a cunning bastard myself (i did survive state school for 11 years more or less intact as an aspie). I dont doubt your intelligence and experience at all, but integrity can be a fickle thing. As for most of the people who ended up ranking above you in our wonderful social stucture (and the ones you have to persuade), do you think they got there on merit, or largely via backstabbing. All I am suggesting is you beat them at their own game?

it's really sad to see your view is so jaundiced, already, hadron.  the world isn't always like that - there really are people out there who believe in what they do, and who care about other people.  not the most common species, admittedly, but your attitude of "fuck them before they fuck me" won't get you that far, in the long run.

i think i'll finish my input there.

Offline Christopher McCandless

  • Wild Wanderer of the Aspie Elite
  • Elder
  • Insane Postwhore
  • *****
  • Posts: 10626
  • Karma: 132
  • Gender: Male
  • "I HAVE HAD A HAPPY LIFE AND THANK THE LORD. GOODB
    • Into the Wild
Re: Me...
« Reply #106 on: July 15, 2007, 11:16:13 AM »
i don't think shock tactics like that work, very much of the time.  you have to go where people are, not where you think they ought to be.  trust me on this - that's why i'm able to get things done, cos i use this principle all the time, when the shouty people fail.
Shock tactics work with the right people, and the right scenarios. Obviously you wouldnt use them in a speech something like that, it would promote the wrong image, but if you did it one on one with someone they can be quite effective. Also if you show it one and one, your conversation is deniable, so if it backfires it is a matter of "what conversation..."

sigh.  hadron, no offence, but you're talking to someone who's been doing for almomst twice as long as you've been alive.  please credit me with a little intelligence, experience, and discernment.  and integrity, when it comes to the last point you mentioned.
I am just suggesting strategy as a cunning bastard myself (i did survive state school for 11 years more or less intact as an aspie). I dont doubt your intelligence and experience at all, but integrity can be a fickle thing. As for most of the people who ended up ranking above you in our wonderful social stucture (and the ones you have to persuade), do you think they got there on merit, or largely via backstabbing. All I am suggesting is you beat them at their own game?

it's really sad to see your view is so jaundiced, already, hadron.  the world isn't always like that - there really are people out there who believe in what they do, and who care about other people.  not the most common species, admittedly, but your attitude of "fuck them before they fuck me" won't get you that far, in the long run.

i think i'll finish my input there.
I wouldnt say my view is so "jaundiced". True their are people who believe in what they are doing, but they dont tend to end up high up positions very frequently. People in those sort of positions are often there because they want power and get a kick out of being in control of other people. As for the "fuck them before the fuck me", do you think i fuck them to their face? As for you finishing your input, for a forum that thrives on combative debate you seem to be running way prematurely!

Offline Lucifer

  • Seraphic Elite
  • Elder
  • Almighty Postwhore
  • *****
  • Posts: 25050
  • Karma: 1544
  • Gender: Female
Re: Me...
« Reply #107 on: July 15, 2007, 11:17:02 AM »
it's not a debate.  it's you sticking your fingers in your ears and not listening.  pointless.

Offline Christopher McCandless

  • Wild Wanderer of the Aspie Elite
  • Elder
  • Insane Postwhore
  • *****
  • Posts: 10626
  • Karma: 132
  • Gender: Male
  • "I HAVE HAD A HAPPY LIFE AND THANK THE LORD. GOODB
    • Into the Wild
Re: Me...
« Reply #108 on: July 15, 2007, 11:20:01 AM »
it's not a debate.  it's you sticking your fingers in your ears and not listening.  pointless.
I wouldnt say that, I listened or read what you said and responded to it. I assume you have run out of arguement and that is why you are giving up.

Offline Lucifer

  • Seraphic Elite
  • Elder
  • Almighty Postwhore
  • *****
  • Posts: 25050
  • Karma: 1544
  • Gender: Female
Re: Me...
« Reply #109 on: July 15, 2007, 11:21:53 AM »
we'll have to agree to differ, then.

assume what you want - if you need that point so badly, have it.  i don't.

Offline Christopher McCandless

  • Wild Wanderer of the Aspie Elite
  • Elder
  • Insane Postwhore
  • *****
  • Posts: 10626
  • Karma: 132
  • Gender: Male
  • "I HAVE HAD A HAPPY LIFE AND THANK THE LORD. GOODB
    • Into the Wild
Re: Me...
« Reply #110 on: July 15, 2007, 11:30:12 AM »
we'll have to agree to differ, then.

assume what you want - if you need that point so badly, have it.  i don't.
Fine if that is the way you want it, but if you are going to make an arguement against a position I stand for, then i would prefer it if you backed it up. I dont object to you disagreeing with me however, as long as you can follow it through.

Offline Calandale

  • Official sheep shagger of the aspie underclass
  • Elder
  • Postwhore Beyond The Pale
  • *****
  • Posts: 41238
  • Karma: -57
  • Gender: Male
  • peep
    • The Game Box: Live!
Re: Me...
« Reply #111 on: July 15, 2007, 09:12:27 PM »
As far as I know they're still there, but moved to a forum not viewable by members.
So if someone were a mod there then they could nab them. Is there an intensity member that is a mod on WP?

Yes, and such posts are not available to us.
You'd have to ask Alex, I believe.

Offline Calandale

  • Official sheep shagger of the aspie underclass
  • Elder
  • Postwhore Beyond The Pale
  • *****
  • Posts: 41238
  • Karma: -57
  • Gender: Male
  • peep
    • The Game Box: Live!
Re: Me...
« Reply #112 on: July 15, 2007, 09:13:23 PM »
What did i do to deserve a red flag?

The particular nature of your line
of questioning is highly suspicious.

Offline Calandale

  • Official sheep shagger of the aspie underclass
  • Elder
  • Postwhore Beyond The Pale
  • *****
  • Posts: 41238
  • Karma: -57
  • Gender: Male
  • peep
    • The Game Box: Live!
Re: Me...
« Reply #113 on: July 15, 2007, 09:15:43 PM »
As for the "fuck them before the fuck me", do you think i fuck them to their face?

Nice. Sneaky little shit.

Quote
As for you finishing your input, for a forum that thrives on combative debate you seem to be running way prematurely!

It's not running, when it's before something
so blatantly worthless.

Offline Calandale

  • Official sheep shagger of the aspie underclass
  • Elder
  • Postwhore Beyond The Pale
  • *****
  • Posts: 41238
  • Karma: -57
  • Gender: Male
  • peep
    • The Game Box: Live!
Re: Me...
« Reply #114 on: July 15, 2007, 11:00:04 PM »
 :plus: (at least one)

Dunc - I've been wanting to ask
for bits of your WP story, but I
got the feeling that you didn't want
to go over it all.

Offline Christopher McCandless

  • Wild Wanderer of the Aspie Elite
  • Elder
  • Insane Postwhore
  • *****
  • Posts: 10626
  • Karma: 132
  • Gender: Male
  • "I HAVE HAD A HAPPY LIFE AND THANK THE LORD. GOODB
    • Into the Wild
Re: Me...
« Reply #115 on: July 16, 2007, 03:05:19 AM »
As far as I know they're still there, but moved to a forum not viewable by members.
So if someone were a mod there then they could nab them. Is there an intensity member that is a mod on WP?

Yes, and such posts are not available to us.
You'd have to ask Alex, I believe.
If you told him you were a movie producer would he give it to you?

Offline Christopher McCandless

  • Wild Wanderer of the Aspie Elite
  • Elder
  • Insane Postwhore
  • *****
  • Posts: 10626
  • Karma: 132
  • Gender: Male
  • "I HAVE HAD A HAPPY LIFE AND THANK THE LORD. GOODB
    • Into the Wild
Re: Me...
« Reply #116 on: July 16, 2007, 03:07:10 AM »
What did i do to deserve a red flag?

The particular nature of your line
of questioning is highly suspicious.
It depends on your perspective.

Offline Calandale

  • Official sheep shagger of the aspie underclass
  • Elder
  • Postwhore Beyond The Pale
  • *****
  • Posts: 41238
  • Karma: -57
  • Gender: Male
  • peep
    • The Game Box: Live!
Re: Me...
« Reply #117 on: July 17, 2007, 03:16:03 AM »
If you told him you were a movie producer would he give it to you?

I can only speculate, but I suspect
he'd think that I was lying, in such a
case, and up to no good.

What did i do to deserve a red flag?

The particular nature of your line
of questioning is highly suspicious.
It depends on your perspective.

Fair enough. Suspicious to me.

Offline Christopher McCandless

  • Wild Wanderer of the Aspie Elite
  • Elder
  • Insane Postwhore
  • *****
  • Posts: 10626
  • Karma: 132
  • Gender: Male
  • "I HAVE HAD A HAPPY LIFE AND THANK THE LORD. GOODB
    • Into the Wild
Re: Me...
« Reply #118 on: July 17, 2007, 04:15:52 PM »
If you told him you were a movie producer would he give it to you?

I can only speculate, but I suspect
he'd think that I was lying, in such a
case, and up to no good.

What did i do to deserve a red flag?

The particular nature of your line
of questioning is highly suspicious.
It depends on your perspective.

Fair enough. Suspicious to me.
Is alex paranoid do you reckon?

Offline z.twelve

  • sockpuppet alert!
  • Fresh Meat
  • *
  • Posts: 27
  • Karma: -10
Re: Me...
« Reply #119 on: July 19, 2007, 04:25:45 AM »
Hi  8)