Scrapheap calls out Lucifer.

[Calandale]

is it dead yet?

What does it matter? I'm as bored
as you about this, but it seems that
as long as people want to discuss and
debate the issue, there's nothing wrong
in that.

[Pyraxis]

he said that she had admin access to the portal, to ramoth, gestaldt and to mj's site.

but not to the neurolands or intensity.
also, he wondered if she could have gained access to intensity's admin panel due to the fact that she had admin access to the portal....this i cannot answer.

Thanks, McJagger.  When did you ask Neuroman about this?

He told me the same information approximately a week ago.

[Pyraxis]

  Dawg. Clear-minded.

There exists some undefined, yet special, relationship between Pyraxis and Neuroman.

We are lovers.

Neuroman's only effort to resolve this issue has been to get the old site up and in view and allow Pyraxis access to his private chat logs.

Untrue. Neuroman and McJagger have been talking behind the scenes, on and off, since it all went down, and I've been trying to mediate between them for almost as long. Neuroman has debated it endlessly. Here is my most recent public confrontation with Neuroman on the issue. There were also a number of other threads on the Neurolands here andhere (the rest are privately archived now, though I might be able to bring them out if you cared), The Drivel (I believe the thread archive was lost but you'd have to check with Dunc) Ramoth (you have to be registered; also mostly privately archived) where the whole community discussed it.

Pyraxis' main beef with Lucifer is that Lucifer has hurt Neuroman, possibly deeply.

No, she and I were rivals on WrongPlanet long before I got to know Neuroman. We disagreed about how strict moderation should be and whether political correctness (I'm sure she'd call it something else) should be enforced in the mature forum. She eventually left the mod team, a little while before I did. People here have gotten sidetracked by the Intensity conflict because that's where their emotional investment is, but there was bad blood before that.

There is no one single person who holds the majority of blame for what has happened.

What else have I missed?

... and where is this going, next?

This deserves a thought through reply. Working on it.

[Calandale]

We disagreed about how strict moderation should be and whether political correctness (I'm sure she'd call it something else) should be enforced in the mature forum.

May I ask who was on which side of these issues?
Not that it's particularly relevant to what is going on,
but I'm curious. Also, what effect Alex had on the
decision.

[odeon]

is it dead yet?

Once rigor mortis sets in, won't it all disintegrate quickly after that?

but it's started to smell already.

[Eclair]

is it dead yet?

Once rigor mortis sets in, won't it all disintegrate quickly after that?

but it's started to smell already.

And spreading like a disease apparently  ...this is supposed to be the Scrap vs Lucifer thread and the debate is over here?

[McGiver]

I would like to ask one question, to anyone who may know the answer:  Did Lucifer ever have admin access on Neurolands or the first Intensity? 

i asked this question to neuroman directly.

he said that she had admin access to the portal, to ramoth, gestaldt and to mj's site.

but not to the neurolands or intensity.
also, he wondered if she could have gained access to intensity's admin panel due to the fact that she had admin access to the portal....this i cannot answer.

Thanks, McJagger.  When did you ask Neuroman about this?

about a week and a half ago.

[McGiver]

There exists some undefined, yet special, relationship between Pyraxis and Neuroman.

We are lovers.

i knew this for a while and never mentioned it in this debate.
just thought i should point that out.

[DirtDawg]

is it dead yet?

Once rigor mortis sets in, won't it all disintegrate quickly after that?

but it's started to smell already.

And spreading like a disease apparently  ...this is supposed to be the Scrap vs Lucifer thread and the debate is over here?

Don't know about it being over or why it ever started, to be frank.

What I did was a faux pas, since I posted regarding a different thread. Maybe that's why no one should come into a call out thread, except the ones involved in teh "Event".

That rule makes more sense, now.

[Calandale]

There exists some undefined, yet special, relationship between Pyraxis and Neuroman.

We are lovers.

i knew this for a while and never mentioned it in this debate.
just thought i should point that out.

Why? Just to toot your own horn?

[McGiver]

There exists some undefined, yet special, relationship between Pyraxis and Neuroman.

We are lovers.

i knew this for a while and never mentioned it in this debate.
just thought i should point that out.

Why? Just to toot your own horn?

nope.
i just thought i should point that out.

[Calandale]

There exists some undefined, yet special, relationship between Pyraxis and Neuroman.

We are lovers.

i knew this for a while and never mentioned it in this debate.
just thought i should point that out.

Why? Just to toot your own horn?

nope.
i just thought i should point that out.

See, I can't think of any REASON otherwise.
And I was hoping that you understood your
motivation. I feel those urges now and then,
and think that I often suppress them.

'Tis as though you are trying to prove that you
are trustworthy, or something.

[McGiver]

There exists some undefined, yet special, relationship between Pyraxis and Neuroman.

We are lovers.

i knew this for a while and never mentioned it in this debate.
just thought i should point that out.

Why? Just to toot your own horn?

nope.
i just thought i should point that out.

See, I can't think of any REASON otherwise.
And I was hoping that you understood your
motivation. I feel those urges now and then,
and think that I often suppress them.

'Tis as though you are trying to prove that you
are trustworthy, or something.

i can keep a secret, if asked.

in the original neuroman debacle, my hand was forced.

that is all.  i have nothing to prove.  there are several members here who know that i can be trusted.  and since the people i care already know, what more is there?

[Calandale]

i can keep a secret, if asked.

in the original neuroman debacle, my hand was forced.

that is all.  i have nothing to prove.  there are several members here who know that i can be trusted.  and since the people i care already know, what more is there?

This is what I would have surmised,
but I wonder WHY you would feel inclined
to mention it, if you had nothing to prove.

It wasn't something funny, and I would expect that
there was some motivation behind the post.

[McGiver]

i can keep a secret, if asked.

in the original neuroman debacle, my hand was forced.

that is all.  i have nothing to prove.  there are several members here who know that i can be trusted.  and since the people i care already know, what more is there?

This is what I would have surmised,
but I wonder WHY you would feel inclined
to mention it, if you had nothing to prove.

It wasn't something funny, and I would expect that
there was some motivation behind the post.

it was  a setup for a sexual joke, but you ruined the moment.  happy?