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Re: Alexandria Occasional-Cortex and the "Green New Deal".
« Reply #75 on: February 27, 2019, 01:45:50 PM »
Deny it all you want. Your posts tell a different story.

You are really talking to yourself at this point

Then who are you talking to?

No one in particular. Mainly just reacting and amusing myself.

Kind of like writing some graffiti. You are kind of sharing it but ultimately not invested in it. Nor is it really to yourself

So I'm right. You are talking to yourself.

Figures.
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Re: Alexandria Occasional-Cortex and the "Green New Deal".
« Reply #76 on: February 27, 2019, 05:03:02 PM »


I not very smart. But I sometimes get memes. They are very useful for those of us who are bereft of decent arguments or original insults.
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Re: Alexandria Occasional-Cortex and the "Green New Deal".
« Reply #77 on: February 27, 2019, 08:06:15 PM »
In Europe you can get around quite well by train, often very high speed trains. Building a high speed rail network between major population centres would mean that air traffic could be massively reduced. It's a good idea, worth exploring.

Uum, no it isn't. California couldn't even build a high speed rail from L.A. to San Fran. They've encountered huge cost overruns and now only plan to link a few central valley cities to the big cities.

Now think about how much more of a boondoggle this would be on a national level. The US is a pretty big country with hundreds of large cities to connect needing hundreds of thousands of miles of rail to be built.

Where is the money and construction workers going to come from for this? Even AOC can't answer that.

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Re: Alexandria Occasional-Cortex and the "Green New Deal".
« Reply #78 on: February 28, 2019, 12:10:01 AM »
In Europe you can get around quite well by train, often very high speed trains. Building a high speed rail network between major population centres would mean that air traffic could be massively reduced. It's a good idea, worth exploring.

Uum, no it isn't. California couldn't even build a high speed rail from L.A. to San Fran. They've encountered huge cost overruns and now only plan to link a few central valley cities to the big cities.

Now think about how much more of a boondoggle this would be on a national level. The US is a pretty big country with hundreds of large cities to connect needing hundreds of thousands of miles of rail to be built.

Where is the money and construction workers going to come from for this? Even AOC can't answer that.

You don't actually need to build it all at once.

Connect some major population centres by train. Do it properly with competent engineers and planners. It sounds like you have the same sort of people running your rail infrastructure projects as we do.

I have travelled by high speed rail in the past, as an alternative to air travel between major cities, and it's a pleasant experience. You do need to get people used to the idea, though, that fares will be closer to airfares than to traditional train fares, but point-to-point travel times will also be closer to air travel.
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Re: Alexandria Occasional-Cortex and the "Green New Deal".
« Reply #79 on: February 28, 2019, 01:04:14 AM »
It is a good idea, and it's perfectly doable.
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Re: Alexandria Occasional-Cortex and the "Green New Deal".
« Reply #80 on: February 28, 2019, 03:58:26 AM »
Deny it all you want. Your posts tell a different story.

You are really talking to yourself at this point

Then who are you talking to?

No one in particular. Mainly just reacting and amusing myself.

Kind of like writing some graffiti. You are kind of sharing it but ultimately not invested in it. Nor is it really to yourself

So I'm right. You are talking to yourself.

Figures.



No one in particular. Mainly just reacting and amusing myself.

Kind of like writing some graffiti. You are kind of sharing it but ultimately not invested in it. Nor is it really to yourself

You do not have the ability to reason. You should stop presuming you are right about anything
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Re: Alexandria Occasional-Cortex and the "Green New Deal".
« Reply #81 on: February 28, 2019, 03:59:16 AM »


I not very smart. But I sometimes get memes. They are very useful for those of us who are bereft of decent arguments or original insults.

You do not get them either though....do you?
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Re: Alexandria Occasional-Cortex and the "Green New Deal".
« Reply #82 on: February 28, 2019, 03:59:43 AM »
It is a good idea, and it's perfectly doable.

No.
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Re: Alexandria Occasional-Cortex and the "Green New Deal".
« Reply #83 on: February 28, 2019, 06:45:44 AM »
Al the Engineer has spoken. I guess those hacks in the rest of the world should know better.
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Re: Alexandria Occasional-Cortex and the "Green New Deal".
« Reply #84 on: February 28, 2019, 08:15:09 PM »
Connect some major population centres by train.

Do you lack reading comprehension?? California was unable to connect L.A. to San Fran and this was after several cost overruns, almost 20 years ago!

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It sounds like you have the same sort of people running your rail infrastructure projects as we do.


Ours are probably worse. California is especially Byzantine with it's red tape in getting any major project done. Most of the time and money gets wasted on redundant environmental impact studies and things like that.

In order to cut through red tape like that, you'll need a dictatorship, which is AOC's agenda all along.

The Green New deal has Federal power garb written all over it.

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Re: Alexandria Occasional-Cortex and the "Green New Deal".
« Reply #85 on: February 28, 2019, 08:20:18 PM »
It is a good idea, and it's perfectly doable.

You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you??

I mean like Dunning-Kreuger kind of stupid.

Here you are at the top of Mt. Stupid. vvv    :hahaha:


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Re: Alexandria Occasional-Cortex and the "Green New Deal".
« Reply #86 on: February 28, 2019, 08:23:23 PM »
Connect some major population centres by train.

Do you lack reading comprehension?? California was unable to connect L.A. to San Fran and this was after several cost overruns, almost 20 years ago!

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It sounds like you have the same sort of people running your rail infrastructure projects as we do.


Ours are probably worse. California is especially Byzantine with it's red tape in getting any major project done. Most of the time and money gets wasted on redundant environmental impact studies and things like that.

In order to cut through red tape like that, you'll need a dictatorship, which is AOC's agenda all along.

The Green New deal has Federal power garb written all over it.

Note that I said "do it properly with competent engineers and planners". Not "do it the same way you did it last time and hope that the outcome is different. Because that's the definition of crazy, right? To keep doing the same thing and expecting different outcomes.

What tends to happen is that deals are done, favours are returned, political decisions are made, and you end up with a complete mess. Doesn't matter whether you've got a progressive government or a regressive government in charge.

Around the world there are big infrastructure projects that are delivered properly, on time and on budget. And there are big infrastructure projects that end up like your LA <=> San Francisco link. There are reasons for that. If you (not you specifically Pappy) keep making the same fuck-ups in the planning stages, don't be surprised when you keep getting fucked up outcomes.

In Sydney our government recently went out and bought $2 Billion worth of new trains. And forgot to measure them. They don't fit through our tunnels. If you guys can beat that level of incompetence then I'm impressed.
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Re: Alexandria Occasional-Cortex and the "Green New Deal".
« Reply #87 on: March 01, 2019, 01:04:26 AM »
It is a good idea, and it's perfectly doable.

You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you??

I mean like Dunning-Kreuger kind of stupid.

Here you are at the top of Mt. Stupid. vvv    :hahaha:



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Re: Alexandria Occasional-Cortex and the "Green New Deal".
« Reply #88 on: March 01, 2019, 02:20:18 AM »
Al the Engineer has spoken. I guess those hacks in the rest of the world should know better.

OMG he thinks AOC is an engineer.  :hahaha:
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Re: Alexandria Occasional-Cortex and the "Green New Deal".
« Reply #89 on: March 01, 2019, 08:09:36 AM »
OMG Al has reading comprehension issues AGAIN.
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