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The other trump card in the gun debate.

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Calandale:

--- Quote from: Minister of silly walks on January 08, 2018, 10:08:30 PM ---
--- Quote from: Calandale on January 08, 2018, 09:55:16 PM ---GPUAR has a point with the easy production though - and it's just going to get easier.


It's also not likely to stop with the kinds of guns which are easily available. Digital contraband
shan't be easy to fully prevent. If something isn't resolved about the base human nature,
shit's gonna hit the fan pretty hard.

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Exactly the same problems that every other country with sensible gun control will face.

In Australia we already have a situation where a determined person who wants to get their hands on a gun usually can. Most criminal gangs, for example, already have decent stockpiles of illegally obtained and unregistered firearms. This doesn't negate the benefits of gun control.

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Will is different from has however. We have no idea what's going to happen when high quality homemades start becoming easy to put together.


Gun control's benefits have not been tested in that environment yet.

odeon:

--- Quote from: Minister of silly walks on January 08, 2018, 09:51:27 PM ---In other words, if the United States were to implement sensible gun control, they would face the exact same problems that every other country with gun control faces.

F*ck! I never thought of that!!!

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You know, the US is speshul.

Yuri Bezmenov:
^ but still not as bad as Malmö.  :LOL:

Jack:

--- Quote from: Go Piss Up A Rope on January 08, 2018, 10:27:33 PM ---you're like, you know, on a fucking island and shit.
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:laugh:

Minister Of Silly Walks:
Plenty of countries with land borders have sensible gun control.

In Australia you can already buy guns illegally. Criminal gangs have guns, but they tend to use them to settle scores rather than against the non-gang population. You can also make all sorts of offensive weapons already, but this is not a widespread practice because it's illegal and shit and you can get into a lot of trouble for making or having bombs and other homemade weapons.

The argument that new technologies will result in an explosion in the number of unregistered guns being made is similar to fears a few years back that the availability of high quality colour printers would result in uncontrollable widespread counterfeiting operations. How did that turn out? People who print fake money are traceable and are punished. People who illegally make guns at home... ditto.

Gun culture and a large (and influential) gun manufacturing industry... certainly unique to the United States, at least among first world countries. You guys want to keep your guns and keep shooting each other, that's fine by me. Just don't expect me to agree that it's a great idea.

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