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Re: U.S. Air Strikes in Syria
« Reply #120 on: October 02, 2014, 11:40:42 PM »
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Re: U.S. Air Strikes in Syria
« Reply #121 on: October 03, 2014, 08:33:35 AM »
Does facebook have an "I am complicated" choice?

It should, to be used by every teenager on the interwebs. :M
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Re: U.S. Air Strikes in Syria
« Reply #122 on: October 03, 2014, 03:33:57 PM »
That's because I'm complicated.

I like that song of his 'give war a chance'
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Re: U.S. Air Strikes in Syria
« Reply #123 on: October 04, 2014, 02:46:08 AM »
That's because I'm complicated.

I like that song of his 'give war a chance'

Ooh, I almost missed the sarcasm there.

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Re: U.S. Air Strikes in Syria
« Reply #124 on: October 04, 2014, 02:51:57 AM »
So, what's your solution, Benji? There's this growing group of religious fanatics who plan to reintroduce the middle ages throughout the Middle East. They're well funded and I'm guessing that that a couple of dreamy-eyed idealists singing Kumbaya won't really make a huge difference. Or, for that matter, idealists yelling "globalisation is evil!".

What's your plan?
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Re: U.S. Air Strikes in Syria
« Reply #125 on: October 04, 2014, 07:03:27 AM »
So, what's your solution, Benji? There's this growing group of religious fanatics who plan to reintroduce the middle ages throughout the Middle East. They're well funded and I'm guessing that that a couple of dreamy-eyed idealists singing Kumbaya won't really make a huge difference. Or, for that matter, idealists yelling "globalisation is evil!".

What's your plan?



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Re: U.S. Air Strikes in Syria
« Reply #126 on: October 04, 2014, 08:13:24 AM »
That's because I'm complicated.

I like that song of his 'give war a chance'

Ooh, I almost missed the sarcasm there.

I was going for subtle  ;)
"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"

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Re: U.S. Air Strikes in Syria
« Reply #127 on: October 04, 2014, 08:26:13 AM »
So, what's your solution, Benji? There's this growing group of religious fanatics who plan to reintroduce the middle ages throughout the Middle East. They're well funded and I'm guessing that that a couple of dreamy-eyed idealists singing Kumbaya won't really make a huge difference. Or, for that matter, idealists yelling "globalisation is evil!".

What's your plan?

"They're well funded"  Yeah, by Qatar and Saudi, 2 US puppet states.  The US and Israel were foaming at the mouth about getting into Syria last year and were funding these lunatics.  They want these maniacs to go on a rampage so the countries fall apart and they too become USrael puppet states.  Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon and Egypt.  These things weren't just some coincidence.  The lunatics that took Gaddafi down were funded and made out to be democracy loving freedom fighters.  They are being funded to do the dirty work, then Team America-World Police comes in to finish the job.  They know that them just going in like they did in Iraq, won't be accepted, like it wasn't in Syria last year to take down Assad, they need to create a reason. 

The plan would obviously be to stop Israel and the US.  International Law doesn't apply to them. 
"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"

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Re: U.S. Air Strikes in Syria
« Reply #128 on: October 04, 2014, 02:03:00 PM »
So, what's your solution, Benji? There's this growing group of religious fanatics who plan to reintroduce the middle ages throughout the Middle East. They're well funded and I'm guessing that that a couple of dreamy-eyed idealists singing Kumbaya won't really make a huge difference. Or, for that matter, idealists yelling "globalisation is evil!".

What's your plan?

"They're well funded"  Yeah, by Qatar and Saudi, 2 US puppet states.  The US and Israel were foaming at the mouth about getting into Syria last year and were funding these lunatics.  They want these maniacs to go on a rampage so the countries fall apart and they too become USrael puppet states.  Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon and Egypt.  These things weren't just some coincidence.  The lunatics that took Gaddafi down were funded and made out to be democracy loving freedom fighters.  They are being funded to do the dirty work, then Team America-World Police comes in to finish the job.  They know that them just going in like they did in Iraq, won't be accepted, like it wasn't in Syria last year to take down Assad, they need to create a reason. 

The plan would obviously be to stop Israel and the US.  International Law doesn't apply to them.

That would be more of a goal than a plan.  What would you do about the problem at hand and how would that fit in with your goals?




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Re: U.S. Air Strikes in Syria
« Reply #129 on: October 04, 2014, 04:48:22 PM »
Stop funding ISIS and Al Qaeda etc.  Support the Syrian government and co who are fighting against the butchers. 
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Re: U.S. Air Strikes in Syria
« Reply #130 on: October 05, 2014, 02:16:34 AM »
So I take it you're OK with a leader using chemical weapons against his people?
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Re: U.S. Air Strikes in Syria
« Reply #131 on: October 05, 2014, 02:31:02 AM »
As for the funding of the Islamic State, there is still little or no evidence to support that the Saudis or Qatar are doing it. However, there are links between it and the Syrian government. You might want to reconsider your position.
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Re: U.S. Air Strikes in Syria
« Reply #132 on: October 05, 2014, 09:18:53 AM »
As for the funding of the Islamic State, there is still little or no evidence to support that the Saudis or Qatar are doing it. However, there are links between it and the Syrian government. You might want to reconsider your position.

There are links between it and NATO/U.S. in both funding and weaponry.

All of the sudden a bunch of religious thugs poof out of nowhere one day, and they all have top of the line western weaponry.  :apondering:
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Re: U.S. Air Strikes in Syria
« Reply #133 on: October 05, 2014, 09:43:33 AM »
Odeon, you cannot take the "grown up who don't believe in fairy-tales"-stance with everything that is not "by the book". ISIS is most likely created and funded by western powers, as an extension of the ancient alien agenda. This is where you sigh and eye-roll, and go "ancient aliens don't exist! They're like ghouls, ghosts and Israel, they are fairy-tales!"

But no, Israel DOES exist, it's not just a spooky story told over camp-fires at night. Corruption DOES exist, and the creation of terrorist organizations DOES happen.
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That said, Ben is offering quite naive solutions. Stop the USA? Doing what exactly? It's not like they have open bank accounts, visible transfers. This is about what you can prove - and even when it's proven, it typically means nothing, the invasion of Iraq was agreed upon - globally - to be illegal.
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If I create a dooms-day robot, and unleash it among the people, and then demand a ransom to deactivate it - something only I can do, what would be the best course of action?
Punish me, by allowing my robot to annihilate mankind?
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Just pay me the damn ransom. Think of the innocent civilians.

The US, UK and Israel have taken the entire Middle East hostage, and they are now kindly asking for some support in taking out the hostagetaker. The least we can do is squint our eyes, sigh heavily, think of the civilians, and provide them with some jetfighter support.

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Re: U.S. Air Strikes in Syria
« Reply #134 on: October 05, 2014, 01:35:43 PM »
Stop funding ISIS and Al Qaeda etc.  Support the Syrian government and co who are fighting against the butchers.

So send one butcher after another that will work out well.
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