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Re: An opinion piece from Bermuda about double jeopardy
« Reply #60 on: May 04, 2014, 08:03:06 PM »
Just so you know, have long thought the exact same thing about Americans. The average American who consumes American trash media does it for the very same reason, because that's how they feel good about their own lives. It's pathetic and frankly insulting to to my own sense of being that would behave so insecurely.
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Re: An opinion piece from Bermuda about double jeopardy
« Reply #61 on: May 05, 2014, 07:16:28 AM »
Only the Canadians. :M
No, Americans, too.  He was Wait Wait Don't Tell Me's favorite topic for like a month straight.  I think in part it's just kinda nice to have political news that's ridiculous but not actually horrifying on a broad scale.
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Re: An opinion piece from Bermuda about double jeopardy
« Reply #62 on: May 05, 2014, 10:41:51 AM »
Only the Canadians. :M
No, Americans, too.  He was Wait Wait Don't Tell Me's favorite topic for like a month straight.  I think in part it's just kinda nice to have political news that's ridiculous but not actually horrifying on a broad scale.

It's scary if you live in Toronto, and you can't impeach your crack-smoking mayor.
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Re: An opinion piece from Bermuda about double jeopardy
« Reply #63 on: May 05, 2014, 02:21:30 PM »
 :-\


Sometimes genuinely feel like an alien.

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Re: An opinion piece from Bermuda about double jeopardy
« Reply #64 on: May 05, 2014, 03:22:17 PM »
Only the Canadians. :M
No, Americans, too.  He was Wait Wait Don't Tell Me's favorite topic for like a month straight.  I think in part it's just kinda nice to have political news that's ridiculous but not actually horrifying on a broad scale.

It's scary if you live in Toronto, and you can't impeach your crack-smoking mayor.

At least in DC they make you step down before letting you come back as a councilman
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Re: An opinion piece from Bermuda about double jeopardy
« Reply #65 on: May 05, 2014, 08:04:38 PM »
:-\


Sometimes genuinely feel like an alien.

Because of the diversity, it's impossible to be weird if you live in America. :P
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Re: An opinion piece from Bermuda about double jeopardy
« Reply #66 on: May 05, 2014, 08:59:19 PM »
:-\


Sometimes genuinely feel like an alien.

Because of the diversity, it's impossible to be weird if you live in America. :P

Actually thought people were just proving my point, perhaps to make a point. :laugh:

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Re: An opinion piece from Bermuda about double jeopardy
« Reply #67 on: May 08, 2014, 11:26:10 PM »
Not so, IMHO. The US tends to be in focus because it a) likes to be there,
:laugh: The media feeds the people what they want to see. Have heard people question why the news is always negative; that's because people wouldn't otherwise watch the news. It's the same reason people read trashy tabloids. It brings to mind the bible with thorns and eyes. It's a business and foreign media bombards their public with American culture because that what sells.

I notice that you're not addressing my other points. :P
Thought addressing the first point also addressed the second one. Just because someone likes attention doesn't have much to do with if they get it. The news and people in Hollywood don't get my attention because I don't want to see it. Didn't really think the other points have anything to do with foreigners sitting around watching springer and cops, watching every scandal in our own news, eating our burgers and reading the latest on J-lo and beiber, and spending so much time talking about those things. It's because of an obsession, not anything to do with politics. Better now?

Point b actually really annoyed me. Can't imagine why anyone would think Americans actually want to be presented to the world in the most negative light possible. There's no denying the world happily consumes anything and everything negative barfed up by the American media, consuming every aspect of our culture. Can't help but to envision people watching our garbage, eating and drinking our garbage, chatting about what stupid pieces of shit we all are, and all the while convinced it's being somehow shoved down their throats by the American people, and not fed to them by their own media because that's what they want. It probably makes it easier for people to ignore the negative aspects of their own culture, because after all, what's happening in American tabloids is so much more important.

Point b, as in the US being the self-appointed guardian of democracy? I suspect it's about justifying actions that are about something else entirely. It's a double-edged thing, partially fed by the rest of the world.

As for your culture being fed to the rest of the world, pretty much the entire western world prefers American TV to their own, which, for better or worse, colours their views. You, in practical terms, are what your TV shows make you to be. Not every aspect of your culture is included, only what your TV shows expose.

As for the celebrities, including the Canadians, it's a question of sheer volume. Until the petitions to deport Bieber made the news, quite a few people (in the rest of the world) didn't know he was a Canadian in the first place. America is synonymous with the US, for lots of people.
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Re: An opinion piece from Bermuda about double jeopardy
« Reply #68 on: May 09, 2014, 07:24:08 AM »

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Re: An opinion piece from Bermuda about double jeopardy
« Reply #69 on: May 09, 2014, 02:17:42 PM »
Point b, as in the US being the self-appointed guardian of democracy?
No, b as in wanting to be seen. You said the world is fixated on the US because b. they want to be seen.


As for your culture being fed to the rest of the world, pretty much the entire western world prefers American TV to their own, which, for better or worse, colours their views.
The world prefers most everything about our culture, movies, tv, fashion, pop culture, food, go-cart tracks everywhere, whatever. My cousin is married to a Turkish immigrant who works as a consultant to aiding people from her home country gain US citizenship. She told me they all talk about the US and americans like it's the ultimate worst shit place in the world, but they all want to come here and when they get here they never try to leave. Some of it strikes as sour grapes mentality, while the rest is typical behavior of people minimalizing their own problems by comparing it to something worse. Not saying it's not a natural thing to do; just can't understand it, like when people say their life is good, not by their own personal standards of good, but by comparison to the worst of the worst in other people's lives. Americans do it too, but it doesn't strike as quite as weird when americans comfort themselves with the negativity of the lives of other americans; at least it's looking at the negativity of our own culture. Maybe because am more used to it, or maybe it's harder to understand why anyone else would be interested at all. Either way, it all seems self-soothing.

As for the celebrities, including the Canadians, it's a question of sheer volume. Until the petitions to deport Bieber made the news, quite a few people (in the rest of the world) didn't know he was a Canadian in the first place. America is synonymous with the US, for lots of people.
Already said no one would give a crap about beiber if he were famous in canada, and that's true.

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Re: An opinion piece from Bermuda about double jeopardy
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Re: An opinion piece from Bermuda about double jeopardy
« Reply #71 on: May 09, 2014, 03:14:57 PM »
No, b as in wanting to be seen. You said the world is fixated on the US because b. they want to be seen.
My mistake. Just went back and read your post again. that was point a, not b. Though on the point of democracy, still cant see what democracy has to do with a world fixation on any tidbit of US negativity. Sometimes have love/hate relationships with things and like to ask myself, do I love to hate it, hate to love it, or do I hate myself for loving it. :)
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Re: An opinion piece from Bermuda about double jeopardy
« Reply #72 on: May 10, 2014, 01:48:00 AM »
You need to work on your image. :trollface:
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Re: An opinion piece from Bermuda about double jeopardy
« Reply #73 on: May 10, 2014, 03:12:23 AM »
Then people wouldn't have a reason to like their own country.  :-\

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Re: An opinion piece from Bermuda about double jeopardy
« Reply #74 on: May 11, 2014, 01:32:27 AM »
Then people wouldn't have a reason to like their own country.  :-\

Why not? :-\
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