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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #390 on: September 23, 2013, 11:44:00 AM »
lol I don't need a definition of the word 'burden'

What about someone suffering from depression who isn't working?

What about someone who is unemployed but has been searching for a job?

What about someone with severe mental illness?

Exactly who qualifies as a burden?
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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #391 on: September 23, 2013, 11:46:45 AM »
Puto Adamum non fortem esse! Non Romanus est!  :arrr: :arrr: :arrr: :arrr: :arrr: :arrr: :arrr: :arrr: :arrr: :arrr: :arrr: :arrr:
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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #392 on: September 23, 2013, 11:47:11 AM »
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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #393 on: September 23, 2013, 11:49:15 AM »
Hopefully he will get what he deserves for his crimes.
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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #394 on: September 23, 2013, 12:30:11 PM »
what does he deserve?
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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #395 on: September 23, 2013, 12:39:18 PM »
Quote from: Adam on September 23, 2013, 11:47:11 AM
btw

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/23/obama-navy-yard-gun-laws-inevitable

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I like what this guy said:

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Dear President Obama: If you do not like the Bill of Rights, a part of the Constitution, began an effort to repeal whatever part with which you have a problem. There is a procedure for doing just that. Do not advocate for an unconstitutional 'end run' by layering on more regulations.
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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #396 on: September 23, 2013, 12:46:03 PM »
Quote from: Adam on September 23, 2013, 11:44:00 AM
lol I don't need a definition of the word 'burden'

What about someone suffering from depression who isn't working?

What about someone who is unemployed but has been searching for a job?

What about someone with severe mental illness?

Exactly who qualifies as a burden?

Its like you are allergic to common sense. If someone is able to contribute to society and chooses not to, then they do not deserve to enjoy the benefits of said society. Its simple, man.

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What about someone suffering from depression who isn't working?
If it is so debilitating that they are an invalid, then should be actively seeking help so that they can properly cope and resume being a productive member of their community.

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What about someone who is unemployed but has been searching for a job?
If they are really looking for a job I don't see the problem.

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What about someone with severe mental illness?

Depends on the illness. Some can be managed, and some cannot. Loaded question btw, and that's why we already have a disability system in place. I am against adding a nationwide disability safety net that caters to everyone regardless of whether or not they are actually disabled though. I'm not willing to pay for wimps, hypochondriacs, and cons to sit on their asses jacking off all day.
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"I’m fearless in my heart.
They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
always constant, accurate, and intense."

  - Steve Vai, "The Audience is Listening"

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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #397 on: September 23, 2013, 12:49:01 PM »
It's simple, is it? lol you clearly have no idea how these things work then.

EXACTLY HOW do you determine whether someone is choosing not to work?

All you're offering me here is "if someone chooses not to contribute to societiy... if someone's a wimp... if someone sits on their ass all day..." etc etc

It's really not that clear cut at all. Try writing that into law.
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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #398 on: September 23, 2013, 12:56:45 PM »
Quote from: Adam on September 23, 2013, 12:49:01 PM
It's simple, is it? lol you clearly have no idea how these things work then.

EXACTLY HOW do you determine whether someone is choosing not to work?

All you're offering me here is "if someone chooses not to contribute to societiy... if someone's a wimp... if someone sits on their ass all day..." etc etc

It's really not that clear cut at all. Try writing that into law.

If someone is not actively seeking employment and has no documented illness or disability hindering that(and somehow cons society out of money, food, medical care, etc), then they should be arrested in my opinion.

Its called being a thief and a cheat. Taking things that don't belong to you is wrong, and when you don't earn your keep that's exactly what you are doing.
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I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
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  - Steve Vai, "The Audience is Listening"

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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #399 on: September 23, 2013, 12:59:25 PM »
Quote from: Adam on September 23, 2013, 11:47:11 AM
btw

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/23/obama-navy-yard-gun-laws-inevitable

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Also, let me ask you a very important question. What do you know about this guy, other than the fact that he committed murder with a gun?
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I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
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  - Steve Vai, "The Audience is Listening"

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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #400 on: September 23, 2013, 01:04:40 PM »
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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #401 on: September 23, 2013, 01:09:32 PM »
What



She thought the appearance of a second asshole was menstration.
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"I’m fearless in my heart.
They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
always constant, accurate, and intense."

  - Steve Vai, "The Audience is Listening"

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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #402 on: September 23, 2013, 01:22:50 PM »
Quote from: RageBeoulve on September 23, 2013, 12:59:25 PM
Quote from: Adam on September 23, 2013, 11:47:11 AM
btw

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/23/obama-navy-yard-gun-laws-inevitable

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Also, let me ask you a very important question. What do you know about this guy, other than the fact that he committed murder with a gun?

LOL. You're looking, aren't you? Pretty ass backwards way of looking at things, wouldn't you say? You seem to be starting out on "hypothesis is true", and looking for supporting evidence as you encounter bumps in the road.



Also, spoiler: Theres not much info on this guy, anyway, Adam. I looked.

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"I’m fearless in my heart.
They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
always constant, accurate, and intense."

  - Steve Vai, "The Audience is Listening"

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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #403 on: September 23, 2013, 01:48:40 PM »
BTW: On that story, a lot of particularly credible news teams are either falsifying stories in order to push an agenda, or are not fact checking their content.

Its widley said right now that Aaron used an "ASSAULT WEAPON" to kill those people. Not so. He did not use and AR15 like so many are reporting, and did not even attempt to buy one. (lots are reporting that he failed background checks on it lmao) Also, there are thousands of gun control laws in effect in Virginia.

The weapon used was a Remington 870 shotgun(I have one of those, btw. Its a turkey hunting gun. No joke.), and 30 shotgun shells. The only AR15s on the scene were in the hands of law enforcement, and those were used to kill Aaron. Facts. I'd personally still like to know more about the guy, and why he did such a thing.

And if at least one or two of those twelve innocent people had a concealed carry, this might have been a heroic story instead of a tragedy.


Sauce:


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/17/miller-new-york-times-gets-it-wrong-about-navy-yar/
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"I’m fearless in my heart.
They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
always constant, accurate, and intense."

  - Steve Vai, "The Audience is Listening"

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Re: Iowa FTW
« Reply #404 on: September 23, 2013, 01:56:16 PM »
Also how the hell did he get in there with a twelve gauge and 30 shells?! That's a lot to carry i'd think. Has anyone found anything?
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"I’m fearless in my heart.
They will always see that in my eyes.
I am the passion; I am the warfare.
I will never stop...
always constant, accurate, and intense."

  - Steve Vai, "The Audience is Listening"
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