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Offline Adam

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I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« on: July 31, 2013, 02:52:31 PM »
and this american guy (member of the public) stood up to speak, saying how terrible healthcare was in the US and how we should fight for our NHS

made me think of this site and some of you guys haha :laugh:

Now start your political arguments...

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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2013, 02:53:39 PM »
Faggot.




















































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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2013, 03:16:41 PM »
Americans by default already have healthcare. They have to wait until it is so bad, and then go to the Emergency Room.
Where there will be no charge.

When I worked our employer offered healthcare, but as a lot of taxes were already taken out of their paychecks, most people opted out of not having yet more money taken out for healthcare.

And then even if you do have healthcare you have to pay a premium. for each doctor visit, because your health plan doesn't cover 100% of the total cost
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2013, 04:05:05 PM »
The American already lives in the UK, doesn't he? Your sample is biased.

What is your argument?
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2013, 04:15:44 PM »
Although I hate the state, I like almost free healthcare  :angel:
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2013, 04:51:44 PM »
Free healthcare is only worth it if it's good.

People really need to keep hold of the NHS and fight for it, alright. I'll definitely need it whenever I move out of here.
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2013, 07:04:40 PM »
Quote from: Adam on July 31, 2013, 02:52:31 PM
and this american guy (member of the public) stood up to speak, saying how terrible healthcare was in the US and how we should fight for our NHS

made me think of this site and some of you guys haha :laugh:

Now start your political arguments...

/ Enter Rage in 3... 2... 1...

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That's what NHS meetings need, more septic input. :zoinks:
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2013, 07:24:18 PM »
I will admit that my health insurance is great.  As a retired state employee who is not eligible for Medicare (yet - I will get it when I'm 65 since PA gets it), the state pays about 5 times what I pay for my premium.  The state recently privatized management of our insurance program and from what I understand BlueCross/BlueShield cannot raise premiums or cut coverage for the term of the contract, 5 years. 

I have a reasonable payment when I see a doctor ($20 for my primary care physician and $30 for a specialist).  My eye visits are covered because of my diabetes and the lens implants from cataract surgeries (regular, ordinary visits would not be).  Most lab tests and shots are free as are my mammograms and gynecological wellness visits. 

Most of my prescriptions are either free (diabetes related) or very inexpensive (less than $10 each).

The only reason I can think of for the State offering such good coverage is that they'd have to pay for it one way (employer premiums) or the other (no insurance and lots of health problems, ER visits, etc.)
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2013, 08:22:28 PM »
Quote from: Lit on July 31, 2013, 04:15:44 PM
Although I hate the state, I like almost free healthcare  :angel:

Isn't it supported through taxes?
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2013, 08:30:24 PM »
Quote from: Semicolon on July 31, 2013, 08:22:28 PM
Quote from: Lit on July 31, 2013, 04:15:44 PM
Although I hate the state, I like almost free healthcare  :angel:

Isn't it supported through taxes?

It's free. Free to the people and free for their use. Exactly like public schools in the United States. Do Americans have the viewpoint of paying for their education, or do they think it's free and their basic human right?
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2013, 08:35:37 PM »
Quote from: Piper on July 31, 2013, 08:30:24 PM
Quote from: Semicolon on July 31, 2013, 08:22:28 PM
Quote from: Lit on July 31, 2013, 04:15:44 PM
Although I hate the state, I like almost free healthcare  :angel:

Isn't it supported through taxes?

It's free. Free to the people and free for their use. Exactly like public schools in the United States. Do Americans have the viewpoint of paying for their education, or do they think it's free and their basic human right?

It's funny you should mention that. In my experience, many Americans will fight tooth and nail to prevent their property taxes from going up. We know that we pay for it, every April 15. :thumbup: That doesn't mean that I think that we should deny education to any child.
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2013, 08:38:20 PM »
Quote from: Semicolon on July 31, 2013, 08:35:37 PM
Quote from: Piper on July 31, 2013, 08:30:24 PM
Quote from: Semicolon on July 31, 2013, 08:22:28 PM
Quote from: Lit on July 31, 2013, 04:15:44 PM
Although I hate the state, I like almost free healthcare  :angel:

Isn't it supported through taxes?

It's free. Free to the people and free for their use. Exactly like public schools in the United States. Do Americans have the viewpoint of paying for their education, or do they think it's free and their basic human right?

It's funny you should mention that. In my experience, many Americans will fight tooth and nail to prevent their property taxes from going up. We know that we pay for it, every April 15. :thumbup: That doesn't mean that I think that we should deny education to any child.
Yeah, everyone knows they pay for it. That was a good, frank response.  :thumbup:
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2013, 08:41:10 PM »
Quote from: Piper on July 31, 2013, 08:38:20 PM
Quote from: Semicolon on July 31, 2013, 08:35:37 PM
Quote from: Piper on July 31, 2013, 08:30:24 PM
Quote from: Semicolon on July 31, 2013, 08:22:28 PM
Quote from: Lit on July 31, 2013, 04:15:44 PM
Although I hate the state, I like almost free healthcare  :angel:

Isn't it supported through taxes?

It's free. Free to the people and free for their use. Exactly like public schools in the United States. Do Americans have the viewpoint of paying for their education, or do they think it's free and their basic human right?

It's funny you should mention that. In my experience, many Americans will fight tooth and nail to prevent their property taxes from going up. We know that we pay for it, every April 15. :thumbup: That doesn't mean that I think that we should deny education to any child.
Yeah, everyone knows they pay for it. That was a good, frank response.  :thumbup:

Thank you. :)
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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2013, 09:28:55 PM »
Quote from: Piper on July 31, 2013, 08:30:24 PM
Exactly like public schools in the United States. Do Americans have the viewpoint of paying for their education, or do they think it's free and their basic human right?
I guess this is a pretty good analogy. I think most people think healthcare to some extent is free, they can just end up in the emergency room for treatment. The problem is preventative care is more cost effective than say when you let a disease get out of control requiring a visit to the ER. Most people, (especially Conservatives) have a viewpoint of "pick yourself up by the bootstraps" kind of mentality which would be fine, but what if you don't have any boots to pick yourself up from?

 since most of these people are of the flock of going to church. Have you ever attended a church service? most of it is nothing more than a bunch of bullshit that has nothing to with jesus at all. Preachers actually preach its the persons responsibility to get themselves the help they need even if they don't have it. and if they don't have it, the vicious cycle continues. both of their mindset and the people who need the help ending up in the ER

I still haven't seen Obama care at all. So, even if I have to pay for it I will because I haven't been to a Doctor since I was a teenager. I'm 33 now and I'd like to know if this hotrod is running on empty, half full or full

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Re: I was at a meeting about the NHS tonight and
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2013, 09:49:24 PM »
A lot of people don't wait until they have an emergency, and they shouldn't. Though that's a problem too; emergency rooms overwhelmed with non-emergencies because people can't afford to see a doctor.
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