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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2012, 02:48:50 PM »
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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2012, 03:01:45 PM »
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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2012, 03:04:44 PM »
Don't feel any safer with cameras around. Do feel watched, and, I just don't like it. I am entitled to some privacy outside too.

In shops they do make sense.

How are you entitled to privacy in public?

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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2012, 03:09:16 PM »
 Just because it's caught on camera does not mean they are going to catch and put away the person committing the crime.  I looked at  Crimewatch where they are asking for help, some of the stuff was caught on cams and they still don't have the people in custody.  I might also add some of the photos were kinda shitty for the amount they spent I would have figured they had better cams.


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This is another article I read and I think this would be a better way to go.  With the amount of money they spent on the cams think if they had put it toward this,  sure it's not flashy new high tech stuff but it works. 
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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2012, 03:09:58 PM »
Don't feel any safer with cameras around. Do feel watched, and, I just don't like it. I am entitled to some privacy outside too.

In shops they do make sense.

How are you entitled to privacy in public?

OK, lets state it different, in public, I can be seen, by people who I should be able to see too. So, if I want a moment, just for me, I can know where to go, and sit on my own on a bench, or at the stairs of a building or so. A camera is not a mutual thing.
Maybe I would find it less hard if there was a display next to every camera, showing the people watching the images.
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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2012, 03:10:26 PM »
Don't feel any safer with cameras around. Do feel watched, and, I just don't like it. I am entitled to some privacy outside too.

In shops they do make sense.

How are you entitled to privacy in public?

How are you not? Who has decided that?

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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2012, 03:12:15 PM »
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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2012, 03:13:24 PM »
Just because it's caught on camera does not mean they are going to catch and put away the person committing the crime.  I looked at  Crimewatch where they are asking for help, some of the stuff was caught on cams and they still don't have the people in custody.  I might also add some of the photos were kinda shitty for the amount they spent I would have figured they had better cams.


Again, what do you expect? They're not gonna catch everybody. The point is that they catch A LOT

Hyke - People seem to think there's someone on the other end of the camera zooming in on them and them only. It really isn;t like that. You can go and have your quiet time alone on a bench. They're not gonna be zooming in watching you intently. That's not how it works.

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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2012, 03:14:05 PM »
Don't feel any safer with cameras around. Do feel watched, and, I just don't like it. I am entitled to some privacy outside too.

In shops they do make sense.

How are you entitled to privacy in public?

How are you not? Who has decided that?

Are you being deliberately stupid?

Privacy - in - public ?

How can you have privacy in public ffs?

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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2012, 03:14:50 PM »
Adam needs to be more  :viking:

How, by being a pussy about CCTV cameras seeing me walking down the street?

Funny how so many of you are more scared of cameras than of guns.

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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2012, 03:14:50 PM »
Don't feel any safer with cameras around. Do feel watched, and, I just don't like it. I am entitled to some privacy outside too.

In shops they do make sense.

How are you entitled to privacy in public?

How are you not? Who has decided that?

Are you being deliberately stupid?

Privacy - in - public ?

How can you have privacy in public ffs?

But who has decided that it should be recorded? I can't remember voting about that.

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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2012, 03:16:20 PM »

But who has decided that it should be recorded? I can't remember voting about that.

I dunno about Sweden, but in the UK we don't hold a referendum for everything the government does.

What's the big deal? I went into town. I'm sure some CCTV cameras spotted me getting off the bus, walking down the street, going into a store, coming back out, walkign down another street... etc etc. Do I care? No.

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Re: Surveillance cameras
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2012, 03:18:48 PM »

But who has decided that it should be recorded? I can't remember voting about that.

I dunno about Sweden, but in the UK we don't hold a referendum for everything the government does.

What's the big deal? I went into town. I'm sure some CCTV cameras spotted me getting off the bus, walking down the street, going into a store, coming back out, walkign down another street... etc etc. Do I care? No.

We don't in Sweden either. That's only one of the ten thousand things that are wrong with the concept of a state.

If some private citizen follows you and catches you on video, will that also be OK?