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Re: Post what you are thinking right now, part two
« Reply #7365 on: November 05, 2014, 11:45:12 PM »
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Thinking about your low turnout rate.

Actually the turn out was respectable.  We had a hotly contested Senate seat which helped.  The rest of the ballot was a state utility board member, school board members, some local judges and constables, about 7 total local offices.  There were 14 amendments.  Without the Senate election we would probably been 30% turn out rather than the 50%.  Early voting (up to 1 week before election day) has cut down somewhat on voters on election day.

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Re: Post what you are thinking right now, part two
« Reply #7366 on: November 05, 2014, 11:48:53 PM »
Was it as high as 50%? I heard it was lower, somewhere.
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Re: Post what you are thinking right now, part two
« Reply #7367 on: November 06, 2014, 10:21:18 AM »
Was it as high as 50%? I heard it was lower, somewhere.

It will vary by state.  Even within a state it will vary by county/parish/borough. 
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Re: Post what you are thinking right now, part two
« Reply #7368 on: November 06, 2014, 10:29:05 AM »
:laugh:

Thinking about your low turnout rate.

Apathy, fuck yeah I guess. :orly:
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Re: Post what you are thinking right now, part two
« Reply #7369 on: November 07, 2014, 12:12:54 AM »
:laugh:

Thinking about your low turnout rate.

Apathy, fuck yeah I guess. :orly:

Worrying that so many might be apathetic.
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Re: Post what you are thinking right now, part two
« Reply #7370 on: November 07, 2014, 12:50:42 AM »
:laugh:

Thinking about your low turnout rate.

Apathy, fuck yeah I guess. :orly:

Worrying that so many might be apathetic.

There's a lot to be worried about.

The question then becomes, if turnouts increase, what happens in a system where a majority of voters care less about politics than the ones who currently vote. :zombiefuck:
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Re: Post what you are thinking right now, part two
« Reply #7371 on: November 07, 2014, 03:18:30 AM »
:laugh:

Thinking about your low turnout rate.

Apathy, fuck yeah I guess. :orly:

Worrying that so many might be apathetic.

There's a lot to be worried about.

The question then becomes, if turnouts increase, what happens in a system where a majority of voters care less about politics than the ones who currently vote. :zombiefuck:

Sometimes I think it is all the PR and spin-doctoring that is causing the apathy.

Voters are kept dumb. What if spin-doctoring was stopped, and the political trade of debating, finding common grounds, giving in to gain something else became visible. It would become exiting to watch. And people would understand what was happening more. Voting would matter again, if politics were about the well-being of the country, instead of being about the glamour of the politicians.
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Re: Post what you are thinking right now, part two
« Reply #7372 on: November 07, 2014, 10:09:22 AM »
A lot of it (for me) is that there is tons of negative politicking.  Just because your opponent lives in Washington (has a domicile here) in a fancy house doesn't mean he/she is out of touch.  Just because he/she voted one way on something might mean the vote was traded for something more important to this district. 

I prefer to hear solid answers that I can hold you accountable for.  Just because you call yourself a "*** doesn't tell me what you'd do to solve an issue.  I want to know how you'd vote to balance the budget (cut funding for libraries? give the army stick guns?, raise taxes?).   
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Re: Post what you are thinking right now, part two
« Reply #7373 on: November 07, 2014, 02:03:37 PM »
:laugh:

Thinking about your low turnout rate.

Apathy, fuck yeah I guess. :orly:

Worrying that so many might be apathetic.

There's a lot to be worried about.

The question then becomes, if turnouts increase, what happens in a system where a majority of voters care less about politics than the ones who currently vote. :zombiefuck:

Sometimes I think it is all the PR and spin-doctoring that is causing the apathy.

Voters are kept dumb. What if spin-doctoring was stopped, and the political trade of debating, finding common grounds, giving in to gain something else became visible. It would become exiting to watch. And people would understand what was happening more. Voting would matter again, if politics were about the well-being of the country, instead of being about the glamour of the politicians.

In America? Americans don't vote because, in many (if not most) national and statewide races, voting doesn't matter. Look at the Electoral College, and how a few swing states decide both the primaries and the national elections. Link Also, if you're interested, look at the spin doctoring that occurred during the early years of the United States of America, such as the Adams-Jefferson elections of 1796 and 1800 Link, or Watergate for a more modern example. If anything, the campaigns have gotten less ruthless since the early days of the country.

To me, most of the voter apathy is caused by the entrenchment of political systems that don't serve modern America. Most of the systems for federal elections were developed back when "United States" was plural instead of singular. Individual states functioned more as sovereign nations than they do today, and state politics was correspondingly more important. Then we fought a civil war over states' rights, and the states began to subsume more power to the federal government. The "United States" became singular. Over time, the parties and the system have become so set that the people in power have little motivation to change it. In this system, so much is stacked against the average voter that there's little reason for many to turn out at the polls.
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Re: Post what you are thinking right now, part two
« Reply #7374 on: November 07, 2014, 09:29:34 PM »
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Re: Post what you are thinking right now, part two
« Reply #7375 on: November 08, 2014, 02:49:28 AM »
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Re: Post what you are thinking right now, part two
« Reply #7376 on: November 08, 2014, 12:10:27 PM »
It seems Benji has left. We need a new kook.

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Re: Post what you are thinking right now, part two
« Reply #7377 on: November 09, 2014, 02:23:40 AM »
It seems Benji has left. We need a new kook.

Spazztards are more entertaining.    :green:

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Re: Post what you are thinking right now, part two
« Reply #7378 on: November 09, 2014, 06:25:17 AM »
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Re: Post what you are thinking right now, part two
« Reply #7379 on: December 16, 2014, 08:26:16 AM »
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