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Re: Drug war losing momentum?
« Reply #135 on: November 22, 2010, 09:40:00 AM »
I take dexamphetamine daily, on prescription (I'd be taking speed daily if I bought it from a guy on a street corner rather than picked it up from the local pharmacy), and my mum would be the first person to tell you how much better I am when I'm on it.  It loses it's effectiveness over time and I take a break from it every 1-2 months to reduce my tolerance, which is a somewhat unpleasant experience due to the neurochemical kickback, and I get mild cravings for it during breaks from it, but it's a price worth paying for the benefits I get from it.

I understand prescription drugs can be more harmful than so called 'recreational' drugs. I've never denied some people need medication. What I am against is constant self medication without dealing with the real problem that lies beneath it, that is the dangerous part.

Peter, I've seen people very close to me completely fuck their lives up and break the hearts of their families with both prescribed and recreational drugs. I'm particularly conscious of having watched someone progress through the stages of having an occasional joint, through the whole gamut of rehab. Not just that person, but a large majority of the people who started out with 'harmless' drug use and alcohol use for that matter.

I've had this debate elsewhere on the site before, I just feel very strongly about drugs as a crutch for some people, particularly the recreational type when used on a consistent basis. I will always feel that way, and that is one opinion I will never stray on, I am sure. I'd like to think I am open minded on some things, but not this issue.



How about alcohol and caffeine they are self administered is that wrong then?
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Re: Drug war losing momentum?
« Reply #136 on: November 23, 2010, 01:18:42 AM »
I take dexamphetamine daily, on prescription (I'd be taking speed daily if I bought it from a guy on a street corner rather than picked it up from the local pharmacy), and my mum would be the first person to tell you how much better I am when I'm on it.  It loses it's effectiveness over time and I take a break from it every 1-2 months to reduce my tolerance, which is a somewhat unpleasant experience due to the neurochemical kickback, and I get mild cravings for it during breaks from it, but it's a price worth paying for the benefits I get from it.

I understand prescription drugs can be more harmful than so called 'recreational' drugs. I've never denied some people need medication. What I am against is constant self medication without dealing with the real problem that lies beneath it, that is the dangerous part.

Peter, I've seen people very close to me completely fuck their lives up and break the hearts of their families with both prescribed and recreational drugs. I'm particularly conscious of having watched someone progress through the stages of having an occasional joint, through the whole gamut of rehab. Not just that person, but a large majority of the people who started out with 'harmless' drug use and alcohol use for that matter.

I've had this debate elsewhere on the site before, I just feel very strongly about drugs as a crutch for some people, particularly the recreational type when used on a consistent basis. I will always feel that way, and that is one opinion I will never stray on, I am sure. I'd like to think I am open minded on some things, but not this issue.



How about alcohol and caffeine they are self administered is that wrong then?

I mentioned alcohol.

I don't recall caffeine addiction as having affects of violence, fucking up people's lives and forcing them into rehab.

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Re: Drug war losing momentum?
« Reply #137 on: November 23, 2010, 06:23:00 AM »
I take dexamphetamine daily, on prescription (I'd be taking speed daily if I bought it from a guy on a street corner rather than picked it up from the local pharmacy), and my mum would be the first person to tell you how much better I am when I'm on it.  It loses it's effectiveness over time and I take a break from it every 1-2 months to reduce my tolerance, which is a somewhat unpleasant experience due to the neurochemical kickback, and I get mild cravings for it during breaks from it, but it's a price worth paying for the benefits I get from it.

I understand prescription drugs can be more harmful than so called 'recreational' drugs. I've never denied some people need medication. What I am against is constant self medication without dealing with the real problem that lies beneath it, that is the dangerous part.

Peter, I've seen people very close to me completely fuck their lives up and break the hearts of their families with both prescribed and recreational drugs. I'm particularly conscious of having watched someone progress through the stages of having an occasional joint, through the whole gamut of rehab. Not just that person, but a large majority of the people who started out with 'harmless' drug use and alcohol use for that matter.

I've had this debate elsewhere on the site before, I just feel very strongly about drugs as a crutch for some people, particularly the recreational type when used on a consistent basis. I will always feel that way, and that is one opinion I will never stray on, I am sure. I'd like to think I am open minded on some things, but not this issue.



How about alcohol and caffeine they are self administered is that wrong then?

I mentioned alcohol.

I don't recall caffeine addiction as having affects of violence, fucking up people's lives and forcing them into rehab.

Should we have harsh penalties for alcohol use also then? 
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Re: Drug war losing momentum?
« Reply #138 on: November 25, 2010, 08:06:37 AM »
war on drugs is as lame as any war on a concept, rather than an enemy

such as war on terror

where is the "war on crime" btw? is crime not a priority?
declare war on crime, fight the war, win it, and presto:
no more crime! ever :O

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Re: Drug war losing momentum?
« Reply #139 on: November 25, 2010, 09:42:03 AM »
The laws are not enforced evenly and are widely ignored this can only lead to bad things
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Re: Drug war losing momentum?
« Reply #140 on: November 25, 2010, 11:01:33 AM »
It's too bad we didn't legalize pot here in California, it would make dank so much cheaper. :stoned:

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Re: Drug war losing momentum?
« Reply #141 on: November 25, 2010, 11:09:35 AM »
We're getting some grass over Christmas.

Woohoo. Time to dust down the bong :party: :party: :party:


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Re: Drug war losing momentum?
« Reply #142 on: November 27, 2010, 12:23:27 PM »
We're getting some grass over Christmas.

Woohoo. Time to dust down the bong :party: :party: :party:



thats so ghetto, your getting it ON xmas eve? thats the best. thats hardcore

you know what i did? apart from getting out at night after presents, food, and mommys bedtime to score weed  :angel:
i managed to end up smoking opium
on xmas eve

*badass*  :zoinks:  :green: 8)

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Re: Drug war losing momentum?
« Reply #143 on: November 27, 2010, 02:43:48 PM »
We're getting some grass over Christmas.

Woohoo. Time to dust down the bong :party: :party: :party:



thats so ghetto, your getting it ON xmas eve? thats the best. thats hardcore

you know what i did? apart from getting out at night after presents, food, and mommys bedtime to score weed  :angel:
i managed to end up smoking opium
on xmas eve

*badass*  :zoinks:  :green: 8)

The funny thing is that it's my aunt and uncle who are getting it. The whole family are gonna be stoned :laugh:

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Re: Drug war losing momentum?
« Reply #144 on: November 27, 2010, 02:54:47 PM »
Has been a while since I touched the stuff. Could do with a bit of it myself.