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OK, MNZ or Bearfart. BBQ time.
« on: August 17, 2010, 12:07:01 PM »
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Re: OK, MNZ or Bearfart. BBQ time.
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2010, 12:32:32 PM »
The only thing I would have to say to her , would be. Hey dumbass , some of us had a worse time than you did ,when we were growing up, get the fuck over it and get on with your life

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Re: OK, MNZ or Bearfart. BBQ time.
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2010, 01:53:00 PM »
who? what? when? where?

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Re: OK, MNZ or Bearfart. BBQ time.
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2010, 02:49:39 PM »
"Eat it up.  Wear it out.  Make it do or do without." 

'People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it.'
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Re: OK, MNZ or Bearfart. BBQ time.
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2010, 03:12:16 PM »
who? what? when? where?

Why :zoinks:

According to one of the autism guru's we had here a few years ago, lots of people on the spectrum can't process the why question, so she thought it better to avoid it.

(she also had parts in her book that she thought were not fit for people on the spectrum to read  :duh:)
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Re: OK, MNZ or Bearfart. BBQ time.
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2010, 03:37:37 PM »
who? what? when? where?

Why :zoinks:

According to one of the autism guru's we had here a few years ago, lots of people on the spectrum can't process the why question, so she thought it better to avoid it.

(she also had parts in her book that she thought were not fit for people on the spectrum to read  :duh:)

Why not :zoinks: :zoinks:
I always understand why when it's me explaining why I did something it's the other people who have a hard time :P
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Re: OK, MNZ or Bearfart. BBQ time.
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2010, 03:49:02 PM »
who? what? when? where?

Why :zoinks:

According to one of the autism guru's we had here a few years ago, lots of people on the spectrum can't process the why question, so she thought it better to avoid it.

(she also had parts in her book that she thought were not fit for people on the spectrum to read  :duh:)

Why not :zoinks: :zoinks:
I always understand why when it's me explaining why I did something it's the other people who have a hard time :P
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Re: OK, MNZ or Bearfart. BBQ time.
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2010, 04:09:54 PM »
According to one of the autism guru's we had here a few years ago, lots of people on the spectrum can't process the why question, so she thought it better to avoid it.
It's possible they avoid questions of why because someone seeking a guru is looking for someone with answers. However will admit the question of why has a certain 'I don't know what'.

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Re: OK, MNZ or Bearfart. BBQ time.
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2010, 04:30:41 PM »
According to one of the autism guru's we had here a few years ago, lots of people on the spectrum can't process the why question, so she thought it better to avoid it.
It's possible they avoid questions of why because someone seeking a guru is looking for someone with answers. However will admit the question of why has a certain 'I don't know what'.

Not a guru in the real sense of the word, but a person who became quite a hype with her book on how to deal with autistic kids. Some of it does make sense, but when I read the book I was mainly angry. She has been praised a lot. And partly for good reasons, but, her idea that autistic people need to be programmed in the right way, and that in that programming "why" is not a valid question, because it could derail everything, was something that pissed me off big time. Did not like the concept of having a chapter in the book that was not good for ASD people to read either. WTH.
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Re: OK, MNZ or Bearfart. BBQ time.
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2010, 04:33:42 PM »
Did you read the part off limits to autisitics? All interested now.

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Re: OK, MNZ or Bearfart. BBQ time.
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2010, 04:34:28 PM »
Did you read the part off limits to autisitics? All interested now.

And what was her name?!  :orly:
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« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2010, 04:35:53 PM »
Did you read the part off limits to autisitics? All interested now.

Of course I did. I will not let myself be censored by some words in a book.
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« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2010, 04:38:15 PM »
Figured you did. What was in it?

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« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2010, 04:50:03 PM »
Did you read the part off limits to autisitics? All interested now.

And what was her name?!  :orly:

Her name is Collette de Bruin

She uses who, what, where, when, and how, to explain the world. In itself really practical and all. It's the way she writes about it, that got me fuming. I could see the practical impact of her approach, and that it was a better approach to look at problems with someone on the spectrum as a problem that was there for a reason. The explanation and the assumptions about autistic people she did in the side information, like saying the "why" question can hardly ever be discussed with someone on the spectrum, and the whole programming attitude that comes with it, got me get a really dirty taste in my mouth reading her book.

And the examples she used. I remember one example of a little kid seeing his Mum in tears, and he asks her what is wrong. So, his Mum tells him she has a heartache. The little boy asks if it is because of the fries Mum had eaten, and if she had taken her heart tablets.

To Collette, it was clear that this little boy had no empathy, and was not appropriately reacting to his Mum, and had no emotional connection with her either. To me, it was a story about a sweet young kid, that does not know the meaning of the word "heartache" and who is worried, because his Mum is using hearttablets.

Been a few years since I read the book. Was not a book that made me happier, despite the fact that she did have some very practically sound ideas.
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Re: OK, MNZ or Bearfart. BBQ time.
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2010, 04:52:13 PM »
Figured you did. What was in it?

Don't recall that bit in itself that well anymore. Schematic drawings about the program she proposed I think.
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