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Re: Genetic Screening for Aspergers
« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2009, 05:05:13 AM »
A hundred aspie men, sneaking their sperm into a sperm bank, with the purpose of spreading ASD, could very well be the big reason to screen for ASD in early pregnancies as soon as a test like that is available.

Who would want to parent a kid that could be grow up to something that moronic? And should they be excused for that behaviour, because of the condition they try to spread?

I could not blame people promoting an early testing after something like that happened.

A thing like this will very likely backfire.


 
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Re: Genetic Screening for Aspergers
« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2009, 06:41:10 AM »
A hundred aspie men, sneaking their sperm into a sperm bank, with the purpose of spreading ASD, could very well be the big reason to screen for ASD in early pregnancies as soon as a test like that is available.

Who would want to parent a kid that could be grow up to something that moronic? And should they be excused for that behaviour, because of the condition they try to spread?

I could not blame people promoting an early testing after something like that happened.

A thing like this will very likely backfire.
Assuming they can find doctors to perform those abortions. In fact if they spin around and attempt to do that as a retaliation, it would be fantastic. We would wake up to a solid cause and an organised movement - basically everything we need and want over a small period of time.

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Re: Genetic Screening for Aspergers
« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2009, 07:50:00 AM »
Guess everyone will have to do it the old fashioned way :missionary:
Its inefficient though - the cuckoo knows best.

Inefficient?

In what way? Apart from people having trouble conceiving that is.

Or are you thinking about sperming the world?
If say 100 or so Aspie males were to walk into UK sperm banks and each make a donation, not only does it take them just an afternoon, but when they get caught, the media coverage could be quite explosive.

I looked into sperm donation a while back, and sperm banks in the UK are very picky about who they accept.  You can't just walk in off the street and ejaculate in a cup, and you have to commit to making multiple donations over a 6 month period, if I remember correctly.
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Re: Genetic Screening for Aspergers
« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2009, 08:05:27 AM »
Guess everyone will have to do it the old fashioned way :missionary:
Its inefficient though - the cuckoo knows best.

Inefficient?

In what way? Apart from people having trouble conceiving that is.

Or are you thinking about sperming the world?
If say 100 or so Aspie males were to walk into UK sperm banks and each make a donation, not only does it take them just an afternoon, but when they get caught, the media coverage could be quite explosive.

I looked into sperm donation a while back, and sperm banks in the UK are very picky about who they accept.  You can't just walk in off the street and ejaculate in a cup, and you have to commit to making multiple donations over a 6 month period, if I remember correctly.
You can avoid telling them about having AS - yes it might involve a few trips, but I doubt their safeguards would be difficult to get past if such an attempt were to be organised.

Of course we could be more clever and just encourage people we know who might have AS to donate. For example by sending leaflets carefully to the right people or leaving them in the right places, we could solicit enough donations to make an impact.

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Re: Genetic Screening for Aspergers
« Reply #19 on: December 25, 2009, 08:44:24 AM »
Guess everyone will have to do it the old fashioned way :missionary:
Its inefficient though - the cuckoo knows best.

Inefficient?

In what way? Apart from people having trouble conceiving that is.

Or are you thinking about sperming the world?
If say 100 or so Aspie males were to walk into UK sperm banks and each make a donation, not only does it take them just an afternoon, but when they get caught, the media coverage could be quite explosive.

I looked into sperm donation a while back, and sperm banks in the UK are very picky about who they accept.  You can't just walk in off the street and ejaculate in a cup, and you have to commit to making multiple donations over a 6 month period, if I remember correctly.
You can avoid telling them about having AS - yes it might involve a few trips, but I doubt their safeguards would be difficult to get past if such an attempt were to be organised.

Of course we could be more clever and just encourage people we know who might have AS to donate. For example by sending leaflets carefully to the right people or leaving them in the right places, we could solicit enough donations to make an impact.

So when are you going to get busy jerking off into a cup and show us all how it's done?

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Re: Genetic Screening for Aspergers
« Reply #20 on: December 25, 2009, 09:27:21 AM »
Guess everyone will have to do it the old fashioned way :missionary:
Its inefficient though - the cuckoo knows best.

Inefficient?

In what way? Apart from people having trouble conceiving that is.

Or are you thinking about sperming the world?
If say 100 or so Aspie males were to walk into UK sperm banks and each make a donation, not only does it take them just an afternoon, but when they get caught, the media coverage could be quite explosive.

I looked into sperm donation a while back, and sperm banks in the UK are very picky about who they accept.  You can't just walk in off the street and ejaculate in a cup, and you have to commit to making multiple donations over a 6 month period, if I remember correctly.
You can avoid telling them about having AS - yes it might involve a few trips, but I doubt their safeguards would be difficult to get past if such an attempt were to be organised.

Of course we could be more clever and just encourage people we know who might have AS to donate. For example by sending leaflets carefully to the right people or leaving them in the right places, we could solicit enough donations to make an impact.

So when are you going to get busy jerking off into a cup and show us all how it's done?
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Why would I need to show you all that way - look here instead:
http://www.donorsiblingregistry.com/startribune.php
Just as an example, there have been other cases I hear...

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Re: Genetic Screening for Aspergers
« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2009, 09:32:59 AM »
Guess everyone will have to do it the old fashioned way :missionary:
Its inefficient though - the cuckoo knows best.

Inefficient?

In what way? Apart from people having trouble conceiving that is.

Or are you thinking about sperming the world?
If say 100 or so Aspie males were to walk into UK sperm banks and each make a donation, not only does it take them just an afternoon, but when they get caught, the media coverage could be quite explosive.

I looked into sperm donation a while back, and sperm banks in the UK are very picky about who they accept.  You can't just walk in off the street and ejaculate in a cup, and you have to commit to making multiple donations over a 6 month period, if I remember correctly.
You can avoid telling them about having AS - yes it might involve a few trips, but I doubt their safeguards would be difficult to get past if such an attempt were to be organised.

Of course we could be more clever and just encourage people we know who might have AS to donate. For example by sending leaflets carefully to the right people or leaving them in the right places, we could solicit enough donations to make an impact.

So when are you going to get busy jerking off into a cup and show us all how it's done?
:laugh:
Why would I need to show you all that way - look here instead:
http://www.donorsiblingregistry.com/startribune.php
Just as an example, there have been other cases I hear...

What I'm trying to say is, you are all talk, no action there. At least I'm getting results.

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Re: Genetic Screening for Aspergers
« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2009, 09:35:28 AM »
Guess everyone will have to do it the old fashioned way :missionary:
Its inefficient though - the cuckoo knows best.

Inefficient?

In what way? Apart from people having trouble conceiving that is.

Or are you thinking about sperming the world?
If say 100 or so Aspie males were to walk into UK sperm banks and each make a donation, not only does it take them just an afternoon, but when they get caught, the media coverage could be quite explosive.

I looked into sperm donation a while back, and sperm banks in the UK are very picky about who they accept.  You can't just walk in off the street and ejaculate in a cup, and you have to commit to making multiple donations over a 6 month period, if I remember correctly.
You can avoid telling them about having AS - yes it might involve a few trips, but I doubt their safeguards would be difficult to get past if such an attempt were to be organised.

Of course we could be more clever and just encourage people we know who might have AS to donate. For example by sending leaflets carefully to the right people or leaving them in the right places, we could solicit enough donations to make an impact.

So when are you going to get busy jerking off into a cup and show us all how it's done?
:laugh:
Why would I need to show you all that way - look here instead:
http://www.donorsiblingregistry.com/startribune.php
Just as an example, there have been other cases I hear...

What I'm trying to say is, you are all talk, no action there. At least I'm getting results.
Indeed your approach is getting some very good results on the reproduction front. But I assure you I am busy trying to get the right people in the right places for such a plan to happen. Even if my contributions are discrete at present.

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Re: Genetic Screening for Aspergers
« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2009, 10:30:09 AM »
The funny thing is that this approach has already been road tested and none of your objections emerged. You do realise the consequences of winning the debate would mean at least adequate support for everyone with AS and reasonable access to opportunities.

And yes, even if those 1000 children lived awful lives, another few hundred thousand or so in this country wont be. I am of course saying that most of those 1000 people will have happy lives, like most people who are born.
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Re: Genetic Screening for Aspergers
« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2009, 12:52:26 PM »
The funny thing is that this approach has already been road tested and none of your objections emerged. You do realise the consequences of winning the debate would mean at least adequate support for everyone with AS and reasonable access to opportunities.

And yes, even if those 1000 children lived awful lives, another few hundred thousand or so in this country wont be. I am of course saying that most of those 1000 people will have happy lives, like most people who are born.
:duh:  Where the fuck did you get that idea into your head?
Most people are at least content, otherwise there would be a lot more revolutions and the sorts in this society. It is very difficult to sustainably run a society in which the majority are miserable, they nearly always quickly fall down.

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Re: Genetic Screening for Aspergers
« Reply #25 on: December 25, 2009, 03:42:22 PM »
Let them. I can't stand most aspies, so the thought of more self-important dickheads like Soiledarse and Bgkfgkdld being born would wreck my head.

I don't want children for this reason. It'll probably be like amanda baggs, but with hairy tits. :aff:

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Re: Genetic Screening for Aspergers
« Reply #26 on: December 25, 2009, 05:31:46 PM »
Guess everyone will have to do it the old fashioned way :missionary:
Its inefficient though - the cuckoo knows best.

Inefficient?

In what way? Apart from people having trouble conceiving that is.

Or are you thinking about sperming the world?
If say 100 or so Aspie males were to walk into UK sperm banks and each make a donation, not only does it take them just an afternoon, but when they get caught, the media coverage could be quite explosive.

I looked into sperm donation a while back, and sperm banks in the UK are very picky about who they accept.  You can't just walk in off the street and ejaculate in a cup, and you have to commit to making multiple donations over a 6 month period, if I remember correctly.
You can avoid telling them about having AS - yes it might involve a few trips, but I doubt their safeguards would be difficult to get past if such an attempt were to be organised.

Of course we could be more clever and just encourage people we know who might have AS to donate. For example by sending leaflets carefully to the right people or leaving them in the right places, we could solicit enough donations to make an impact.

So when are you going to get busy jerking off into a cup and show us all how it's done?
:laugh:
Why would I need to show you all that way - look here instead:
http://www.donorsiblingregistry.com/startribune.php
Just as an example, there have been other cases I hear...

It is not more than expected that there have been aspie donors. But that is something different than becoming donor with the main purpose to spread ASD over the population.

I hate it when someone tries to frame me into something. Were I a mum with the idea that I had been conned into carrying a child with a condition, because of that condition, I would hate the donor. Not because of his condition, but because of the way he used me. And I think I would not be the only one.

Having it spelled out before me, from the beginning, would have been a completely different thing.
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Re: Genetic Screening for Aspergers
« Reply #27 on: December 25, 2009, 05:36:39 PM »
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Re: Genetic Screening for Aspergers
« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2009, 06:52:17 PM »
Guess everyone will have to do it the old fashioned way :missionary:
Its inefficient though - the cuckoo knows best.

Inefficient?

In what way? Apart from people having trouble conceiving that is.

Or are you thinking about sperming the world?
If say 100 or so Aspie males were to walk into UK sperm banks and each make a donation, not only does it take them just an afternoon, but when they get caught, the media coverage could be quite explosive.

I looked into sperm donation a while back, and sperm banks in the UK are very picky about who they accept.  You can't just walk in off the street and ejaculate in a cup, and you have to commit to making multiple donations over a 6 month period, if I remember correctly.
You can avoid telling them about having AS - yes it might involve a few trips, but I doubt their safeguards would be difficult to get past if such an attempt were to be organised.

Of course we could be more clever and just encourage people we know who might have AS to donate. For example by sending leaflets carefully to the right people or leaving them in the right places, we could solicit enough donations to make an impact.

So when are you going to get busy jerking off into a cup and show us all how it's done?
:laugh:
Why would I need to show you all that way - look here instead:
http://www.donorsiblingregistry.com/startribune.php
Just as an example, there have been other cases I hear...

It is not more than expected that there have been aspie donors. But that is something different than becoming donor with the main purpose to spread ASD over the population.

I hate it when someone tries to frame me into something.
Where do you think that behaviour comes from? It is learned, is it not? The real question is from whom and why - and the answer to that question is from society, from the impositions of the collective.
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Were I a mum with the idea that I had been conned into carrying a child with a condition, because of that condition, I would hate the donor. Not because of his condition, but because of the way he used me. And I think I would not be the only one.

Having it spelled out before me, from the beginning, would have been a completely different thing.
Those people frame us all into situations and a society ill suited to us without batting an eyelid. You need to start showing some compassion to those who deserve it, rather than trying to prop up an ever more feeble argument. You just balk at the cause because, god forbid, it might actually involve some change. Of course, you miss the small detail that its most likely going to be good change for ourselves.

Just another point I missed, we are people, not a condition or epidemic to be spread. Its no different to a black man "infecting" a white woman with a child who might happen to have darker skin, god forbid...

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Re: Genetic Screening for Aspergers
« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2009, 06:52:50 PM »
Here's a video of my cat and my dog opening their christmas presents:


Are they suffering? Should they not have been born?