the asscoffe debacle

[Callaway]

http://www.aclu.org/privacy/spying/areyoulivinginaconstitutionfreezone.html

Fact Sheet on U.S. "Constitution Free Zone"

Normally under the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the American people are not generally subject to random and arbitrary stops and searches.  

The border, however, has always been an exception.  There, the longstanding view is that the normal rules do not apply.  For example the authorities do not need a warrant or probable cause to conduct a “routine search.”  

But what is “the border”?  According to the government, it  is a 100-mile wide strip that wraps around the “external boundary” of the United States.  

As a result of this claimed authority, individuals who are far away from the border, American citizens traveling from one place in America to another, are being stopped and harassed in ways that our Constitution does not permit.

Border Patrol has been setting up checkpoints inland — on highways in states such as California, Texas and Arizona, and at ferry terminals in Washington State. Typically, the agents ask drivers and passengers about their citizenship.  Unfortunately, our courts so far have permitted these kinds of checkpoints – legally speaking, they are “administrative” stops that are permitted only for the specific purpose of protecting the nation’s borders.  They cannot become general drug-search or other law enforcement efforts.  

However, these stops by Border Patrol agents are not remaining confined to that border security purpose.  On the roads of California and elsewhere in the nation – places far removed from the actual border – agents are stopping, interrogating, and searching Americans on an everyday basis with absolutely no suspicion of wrongdoing.

The bottom line is that the extraordinary authorities that the government possesses at the border are spilling into regular American streets.  

Since Border Patrol agents are doing drug busts in Yuma in their traffic stops to check for illegal aliens, then they have far exceeded their mandate and need to be stopped.  The problem is who will stop them?  I'm sure Yuma is very pleased with the influx of $ from all those marijuana fines.  Maybe one of the people busted could take it to the Supreme Court, but that would cost them much more than the fine.
 

[matthe]

I'm sure Yuma is very pleased with the influx of $ from all those marijuana fines.  Maybe one of the people busted could take it to the Supreme Court, but that would cost them much more than the fine.
 

one checkpoint, on one highway, in one direction(spot rd exit eastbound I-8)

from the numbers ive gathered hither and yonder, i estimate that this one neogestapo stop generates roughly 1-2 million $ annually for yuma, just from petty pot poss.

[Blasted]

What made you come back?

[matthe]

What made you come back?

back to I2? i missed the ambiance and the lovely atmosphere

[Yuri Bezmenov]

Holy crap!! had no idea this had happened.

[Calandale]

I don't get why buttcoffee was banned. :/




He was pretty reasonable over on chaos.
Not trustworthy enough to remain a citizen,
but an amusing poster.


Barely remember mathe though.

[odeon]

He may have been reasonable on chaos, but not here.