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Offline Calandale

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Re: Torture in the US
« Reply #105 on: April 19, 2008, 09:32:01 PM »
Here's where having a degree in art fucks me over, because I never learned the official term for - looking for a ghost in the machine? - the error of seeing an active intelligence behind a system just because the pattern hasn't been figured out yet.

I don't think a country should be treated as a sentient entity. But that gets into the questions of what is an individual.

The closest I can come is some form of anthropomorphizing, but that doesn't
seem specific enough.

Active intelligence is irrelevant. The point is purpose. Groups have purpose.
And collective interests, which may not coincide well with the interests
of their membership. Ah, there are those with power, bred by the government,
who have their own interests, and are collectively driving the actions, but such
things are too difficult to predict. Having general models for group behaviours is
necessary, just as behavior of gases doesn't try and predict every molecule.

So, since national governments are not serving the best interests of the
majority of the members, what right do they have?

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Re: Torture in the US
« Reply #106 on: April 20, 2008, 02:55:25 AM »
seriously? i didnt mean to kill the thread. whered everybody go? i was just venting. geez. was my shit too good? whatever. pussies.

I got bored.
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Re: Torture in the US
« Reply #107 on: May 20, 2008, 07:01:06 AM »
seriously? i didnt mean to kill the thread. whered everybody go? i was just venting. geez. was my shit too good? whatever. pussies.

I got bored.

Yes. and yes.
Feeling neutral is very normal.

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Re: Torture in the US
« Reply #108 on: July 09, 2008, 08:35:46 AM »
There have been reports of torture and rape by US officials going back at least until WW2. Just because the mainstream media doesn't cover it, that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Those who still see the US government as the world's benign watchdog and liberator rather than an evil imperialist should seriously get their heads out of their ass and start smelling the shit that's all around them.