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Re: odeon's ask away-thread
« Reply #2325 on: January 17, 2018, 06:20:27 PM »
Political Correctness was either conceived by very intelligent people who are just putting us on, or by imbeciles who genuinely believe it.

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Re: odeon's ask away-thread
« Reply #2326 on: January 18, 2018, 02:08:19 AM »
Did you have a question?
To me it looks like you're saying that banning bombs didn't stop bombs going off therefore there is no point to gun control because it's a mental health issue. 

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Re: odeon's ask away-thread
« Reply #2327 on: January 18, 2018, 04:38:34 PM »
Yes. If you'd watch the video, I'd be interested on your opinion of it.
Political Correctness was either conceived by very intelligent people who are just putting us on, or by imbeciles who genuinely believe it.

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Re: odeon's ask away-thread
« Reply #2328 on: January 19, 2018, 01:52:43 AM »
Sorry, not watching videos here.
To me it looks like you're saying that banning bombs didn't stop bombs going off therefore there is no point to gun control because it's a mental health issue. 

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Re: odeon's ask away-thread
« Reply #2329 on: January 19, 2018, 09:34:35 AM »
You could just listen to it.


I had my disagreements, because good conversation is simultaneous, and the things
the dude started out with were simplified too much to address anything like reality.
When you abstract away too much, you get something pure - but incorrect.

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Re: odeon's ask away-thread
« Reply #2330 on: January 20, 2018, 03:33:35 AM »
I rarely watch videos here. This is a message board.
To me it looks like you're saying that banning bombs didn't stop bombs going off therefore there is no point to gun control because it's a mental health issue. 

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Re: odeon's ask away-thread
« Reply #2331 on: January 21, 2018, 12:07:28 AM »

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Re: odeon's ask away-thread
« Reply #2332 on: January 21, 2018, 03:20:59 AM »
You could just listen to it.


I could but I won't.

Look, this is a message board, not YouTube. We write things and we post them, and the time it should take for me to walk through a post is the time it takes to read it, and it's possible to glance through a post to see if it's actually worth reading in its entirety. Not so with a 10-minute video.

To me it looks like you're saying that banning bombs didn't stop bombs going off therefore there is no point to gun control because it's a mental health issue. 

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Re: odeon's ask away-thread
« Reply #2333 on: January 21, 2018, 04:35:25 AM »
Yes. If you'd watch the video, I'd be interested on your opinion of it.

I watched it. Did you?

To summarise:
* most people think they are good at listening but they aren't.
* the speaker recommends an experiment where, when you are having an argument or disagreement with someone, each person needs to restate the other party's previous statement. Both parties must agree that it is an accurate restating.

[troll]Or you could, you know, rely on sweeping and inaccurate statements and just insult anyone who disagrees with you. That works as well. [/troll]
« Last Edit: January 21, 2018, 04:41:55 AM by Minister of silly walks »

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Re: odeon's ask away-thread
« Reply #2334 on: January 21, 2018, 10:04:08 AM »
You could just listen to it.


I could but I won't.



Thank you for not just saying you don't want to watch it. :D

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Re: odeon's ask away-thread
« Reply #2335 on: January 21, 2018, 10:05:45 AM »
... each person needs to restate the other party's previous statement.


Does repeating the same text that you wrote, again and again, count? How about if you do it enough?

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Re: odeon's ask away-thread
« Reply #2336 on: January 22, 2018, 12:59:05 AM »
... each person needs to restate the other party's previous statement.


Does repeating the same text that you wrote, again and again, count? How about if you do it enough?

No, you need to restate it in your own words and demonstrate a clear understanding of what the other was saying.

I don't believe that the experiment was intended for typed conversations.

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Re: odeon's ask away-thread
« Reply #2337 on: January 22, 2018, 02:15:40 AM »
I don't believe that the experiment was intended for typed conversations.

Was any of it?
To me it looks like you're saying that banning bombs didn't stop bombs going off therefore there is no point to gun control because it's a mental health issue. 

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Re: odeon's ask away-thread
« Reply #2338 on: January 22, 2018, 12:34:31 PM »
... each person needs to restate the other party's previous statement.


Does repeating the same text that you wrote, again and again, count? How about if you do it enough?

No, you need to restate it in your own words and demonstrate a clear understanding of what the other was saying.

I don't believe that the experiment was intended for typed conversations.


If I wrote it in the first place, isn't it my own words?


Why do I care what the other is saying? I'm trying to hear myself think.