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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #120 on: July 16, 2007, 08:12:29 PM »
Quote from: Alex179 on July 16, 2007, 03:03:29 PM
That would be hilarious.   Anything bad happening to Michael Jackson is funny.

no it's not.

it's never funny when something bad happens to someone. and i don't mean South Park, i mean real life. people are as real as you. they feel pain just like you do.
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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #121 on: July 16, 2007, 08:13:50 PM »
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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #122 on: July 16, 2007, 08:14:32 PM »
Quote from: Hadron on July 16, 2007, 08:03:15 PM
Your language is getting as slick and contorted as Lucifers

i'll take that as a compliment. 8)
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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #123 on: July 17, 2007, 04:20:56 AM »
Quote from: calandale on July 16, 2007, 08:07:51 PM
Quote from: Hadron on July 16, 2007, 08:03:15 PM

And calandale, a 50 year old man discussing his penis in clear access to kids is a little inappropraite dont you think. Its a lot different when it is done on a forum rather than on some silly website.

I certainly don't think that.
I wouldn't do it (though I'm
not QUITE that old), if I did.

I see no problem with that post
OTHER than the hypocrisy. This
is someone who bans teens for
being potty mouthed, after all.
Look, if a 50 year old man in real life held a conversation like that in front of kids they could be easily nicked for it. The hypocrisy is more dire though.
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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #124 on: July 17, 2007, 04:33:28 AM »
Quote from: Hadron on July 17, 2007, 04:20:56 AM

Look, if a 50 year old man in real life held a conversation like that in front of kids they could be easily nicked for it. The hypocrisy is more dire though.

Bullshit. It would entirely depend upon
circumstances. Like, if he was clearly trying
to hit on them.

Unless the UK has very different laws regarding
what could be said freely. But, WP IS primarily
a US site. It doesn't have to take into account
the laws of all countries in which it is available.
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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #125 on: July 17, 2007, 04:47:14 AM »
Quote from: Björk on July 16, 2007, 08:14:32 PM
Quote from: Hadron on July 16, 2007, 08:03:15 PM
Your language is getting as slick and contorted as Lucifers

i'll take that as a compliment. 8)

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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #126 on: July 17, 2007, 04:48:37 AM »
Quote from: calandale on July 17, 2007, 04:33:28 AM
Quote from: Hadron on July 17, 2007, 04:20:56 AM

Look, if a 50 year old man in real life held a conversation like that in front of kids they could be easily nicked for it. The hypocrisy is more dire though.

Bullshit. It would entirely depend upon
circumstances. Like, if he was clearly trying
to hit on them.

Unless the UK has very different laws regarding
what could be said freely. But, WP IS primarily
a US site. It doesn't have to take into account
the laws of all countries in which it is available.
I guess the actions would be worse in the US, they have alot more strict legal system.
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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #127 on: July 17, 2007, 04:50:37 AM »
Quote from: Lucifer on July 17, 2007, 04:47:14 AM
Quote from: Björk on July 16, 2007, 08:14:32 PM
Quote from: Hadron on July 16, 2007, 08:03:15 PM
Your language is getting as slick and contorted as Lucifers

i'll take that as a compliment. 8)

 :-*
Take it as you like, i was simply musing. Personally I like a bit of eloquence in language, but i care more for the ideas behind it, ie what is actually being said.
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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #128 on: July 17, 2007, 04:52:48 AM »
Quote from: Hadron on July 17, 2007, 04:48:37 AM
Quote from: calandale on July 17, 2007, 04:33:28 AM
Quote from: Hadron on July 17, 2007, 04:20:56 AM

Look, if a 50 year old man in real life held a conversation like that in front of kids they could be easily nicked for it. The hypocrisy is more dire though.

Bullshit. It would entirely depend upon
circumstances. Like, if he was clearly trying
to hit on them.

Unless the UK has very different laws regarding
what could be said freely. But, WP IS primarily
a US site. It doesn't have to take into account
the laws of all countries in which it is available.
I guess the actions would be worse in the US, they have alot more strict legal system.

Oh, no. I am pretty sure what it would take to arrest someone in
the US. I was presuming that it might be trickier in the UK, thus
explaining your post - given that you claim to be from thence.
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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #129 on: July 17, 2007, 05:01:39 AM »
Quote from: calandale on July 17, 2007, 04:52:48 AM
Quote from: Hadron on July 17, 2007, 04:48:37 AM
Quote from: calandale on July 17, 2007, 04:33:28 AM
Quote from: Hadron on July 17, 2007, 04:20:56 AM

Look, if a 50 year old man in real life held a conversation like that in front of kids they could be easily nicked for it. The hypocrisy is more dire though.

Bullshit. It would entirely depend upon
circumstances. Like, if he was clearly trying
to hit on them.

Unless the UK has very different laws regarding
what could be said freely. But, WP IS primarily
a US site. It doesn't have to take into account
the laws of all countries in which it is available.
I guess the actions would be worse in the US, they have alot more strict legal system.

Oh, no. I am pretty sure what it would take to arrest someone in
the US. I was presuming that it might be trickier in the UK, thus
explaining your post - given that you claim to be from thence.
In the UK we have the human rights act, and the EU to mess around with who we can lock up. It doesnt stop people getting indefinately sectioned under the Mental Health Act, they do it to "terrorists" on occasion.
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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #130 on: July 17, 2007, 05:04:10 AM »
I've said things in front of children much worse than this,
and gotten in no trouble. I wouldn't expect to be discussing
my penis, if I was a schoolteacher, IN THAT CAPACITY, but
otherwise, unless it was clearly an attempt to molest, I doubt
there would be a problem.
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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #131 on: July 17, 2007, 05:06:25 AM »
Quote from: calandale on July 17, 2007, 05:04:10 AM
I've said things in front of children much worse than this,
and gotten in no trouble. I wouldn't expect to be discussing
my penis, if I was a schoolteacher, IN THAT CAPACITY, but
otherwise, unless it was clearly an attempt to molest, I doubt
there would be a problem.
Well still, discussing your penis in front of kids is plain wrong, schoolteacher or not.
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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #132 on: July 17, 2007, 05:09:29 AM »
Quote from: Hadron on July 17, 2007, 05:06:25 AM
Well still, discussing your penis in front of kids is plain wrong, schoolteacher or not.

I don't quite see why.
It's simply a part of my body.
Plus, such comments are not
directed at the children, they
just happen to be present. No,
I don't see the big deal.

'Course, at the gaming site I'm
on, members are often threatening to
ass rape one another. Most of them are
what would legally be considered children.
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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #133 on: July 17, 2007, 05:11:32 AM »
Quote from: calandale on July 17, 2007, 05:09:29 AM
Quote from: Hadron on July 17, 2007, 05:06:25 AM
Well still, discussing your penis in front of kids is plain wrong, schoolteacher or not.

I don't quite see why.
It's simply a part of my body.
Plus, such comments are not
directed at the children, they
just happen to be present. No,
I don't see the big deal.

'Course, at the gaming site I'm
on, members are often threatening to
ass rape one another. Most of them are
what would legally be considered children.
Yeah its fine until you have ten year olds getting bullyed on the basis of dick size. As for that gaming site, how old do you mean by legally considered children? Are the 16? 13? 10?
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Re: Limits of free speech
« Reply #134 on: July 17, 2007, 05:13:07 AM »
Quote from: Hadron on July 17, 2007, 05:11:32 AM

Yeah its fine until you have ten year olds getting bullyed on the basis of dick size. As for that gaming site, how old do you mean by legally considered children? Are the 16? 13? 10?

Ranges. The youngest in the section that gets
REALLY nasty is 12. But as young as 8 in sections
where some of this gets mentioned. And no, I
don't think anyone is getting bullied for that. Just
teased about this that and the other.
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