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Re: Where did the US screw up?
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2007, 09:51:50 AM »
About the time they started chucking long estabilished peaceful indians off of their fertile land and allowing pig-ignorant fat gas-guzzling war-mongering childish celebrity obsessed morons like catkiller and calendale not only exist but allow them access to the internet when in any other less backwards society their weak genes would have been flushed out long before they even came into existence.

Well they started chucking "peaceful" native americans off their land LONG before cars and the internet were invented.   Those weak genes sure did quite a bit in 200 years of being a nation.   Where are you from?   I bet your nation is still England's bitch.

Really, i thought the lone ranger invented the internet in the early frontier days after deciding he was too ugly to be seen without a mask and decided to talk about how fabolous an individual he was over the net? I was born and bread in Scotland and yes we are still in a Union with England due to weak politicians. I'm second-generation Irish though and they stopped being Englands bitch in the early part of the last century.

So black and white some of you Scots are. England -- the root of all evils.

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Re: Where did the US screw up?
« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2007, 10:02:19 AM »
So black and white some of you Scots are. England -- the root of all evils.

"Don't hate the player, hate the game" lol

Might makes right?   England was the most powerful nation in the world due to its navy for quite some time.   They did their fair share of good and bad.
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Re: Where did the US screw up?
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2007, 10:09:25 AM »
So black and white some of you Scots are. England -- the root of all evils.

"Don't hate the player, hate the game" lol

Might makes right?   England was the most powerful nation in the world due to its navy for quite some time.   They did their fair share of good and bad.

Like all nations. I fail to see why the Scots have to view us as something unredeemably vile when we're not. Blame Braveheart and Mel Gibson's manboobs.

The Scottish people generate some of the most influential figures in the union, and yet they still winge that they receive bad treatment and are treated like second-class citizens.
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Re: Where did the US screw up?
« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2007, 10:14:14 AM »
About the time they started chucking long estabilished peaceful indians off of their fertile land and allowing pig-ignorant fat gas-guzzling war-mongering childish celebrity obsessed morons like catkiller and calendale not only exist but allow them access to the internet when in any other less backwards society their weak genes would have been flushed out long before they even came into existence.

Well they started chucking "peaceful" native americans off their land LONG before cars and the internet were invented.   Those weak genes sure did quite a bit in 200 years of being a nation.   Where are you from?   I bet your nation is still England's bitch.

Really, i thought the lone ranger invented the internet in the early frontier days after deciding he was too ugly to be seen without a mask and decided to talk about how fabolous an individual he was over the net? I was born and bread in Scotland and yes we are still in a Union with England due to weak politicians. I'm second-generation Irish though and they stopped being Englands bitch in the early part of the last century.

So black and white some of you Scots are. England -- the root of all evils.

Who said anything about England being evil apart from you? Try and keep up, little girl.

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Re: Where did the US screw up?
« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2007, 10:16:03 AM »
About the time they started chucking long estabilished peaceful indians off of their fertile land and allowing pig-ignorant fat gas-guzzling war-mongering childish celebrity obsessed morons like catkiller and calendale not only exist but allow them access to the internet when in any other less backwards society their weak genes would have been flushed out long before they even came into existence.

Well they started chucking "peaceful" native americans off their land LONG before cars and the internet were invented.   Those weak genes sure did quite a bit in 200 years of being a nation.   Where are you from?   I bet your nation is still England's bitch.

Really, i thought the lone ranger invented the internet in the early frontier days after deciding he was too ugly to be seen without a mask and decided to talk about how fabolous an individual he was over the net? I was born and bread in Scotland and yes we are still in a Union with England due to weak politicians. I'm second-generation Irish though and they stopped being Englands bitch in the early part of the last century.

So black and white some of you Scots are. England -- the root of all evils.

Who said anything about England being evil apart from you? Try and keep up, little girl.

All I did was I highlighted the ridiculousness of your pathetic zeal.

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Re: Where did the US screw up?
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2007, 10:16:15 AM »
So black and white some of you Scots are. England -- the root of all evils.

"Don't hate the player, hate the game" lol

Might makes right?   England was the most powerful nation in the world due to its navy for quite some time.   They did their fair share of good and bad.

Like all nations. I fail to see why the Scots have to view us as something unredeemably vile when we're not. Blame Braveheart and Mel Gibson's manboobs.

The Scottish people generate some of the most influential figures in the union, and yet they still winge that they receive bad treatment and are treated like second-class citizens.

I dont respect self-interested Scots who benefited out of this Union of the rich to shit on the poor anymore than i respect English people trying to take over the world and plundering other nations at the same time.

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Re: Where did the US screw up?
« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2007, 10:17:56 AM »
About the time they started chucking long estabilished peaceful indians off of their fertile land and allowing pig-ignorant fat gas-guzzling war-mongering childish celebrity obsessed morons like catkiller and calendale not only exist but allow them access to the internet when in any other less backwards society their weak genes would have been flushed out long before they even came into existence.

Well they started chucking "peaceful" native americans off their land LONG before cars and the internet were invented.   Those weak genes sure did quite a bit in 200 years of being a nation.   Where are you from?   I bet your nation is still England's bitch.

Really, i thought the lone ranger invented the internet in the early frontier days after deciding he was too ugly to be seen without a mask and decided to talk about how fabolous an individual he was over the net? I was born and bread in Scotland and yes we are still in a Union with England due to weak politicians. I'm second-generation Irish though and they stopped being Englands bitch in the early part of the last century.

So black and white some of you Scots are. England -- the root of all evils.

Who said anything about England being evil apart from you? Try and keep up, little girl.

All I did was I highlighted the ridiculousness of your pathetic zeal.

Tell me what was zealous in the posts you've highlighted? Someone seems to be pissed off that they wont be able to order us around any longer. Never mind, there's still the falklands.

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Re: Where did the US screw up?
« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2007, 03:15:30 PM »
About the time they started chucking long estabilished peaceful indians off of their fertile land and allowing pig-ignorant fat gas-guzzling war-mongering childish celebrity obsessed morons like catkiller and calendale not only exist but allow them access to the internet when in any other less backwards society their weak genes would have been flushed out long before they even came into existence.

Well they started chucking "peaceful" native americans off their land LONG before cars and the internet were invented.   Those weak genes sure did quite a bit in 200 years of being a nation.   Where are you from?   I bet your nation is still England's bitch.

Ahem, might I suggest that importing slaves also helped build your nation.

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Re: Where did the US screw up?
« Reply #38 on: July 12, 2007, 12:29:33 AM »
About the time they started chucking long estabilished peaceful indians off of their fertile land and allowing pig-ignorant fat gas-guzzling war-mongering childish celebrity obsessed morons like catkiller and calendale not only exist but allow them access to the internet when in any other less backwards society their weak genes would have been flushed out long before they even came into existence.

Well they started chucking "peaceful" native americans off their land LONG before cars and the internet were invented.   Those weak genes sure did quite a bit in 200 years of being a nation.   Where are you from?   I bet your nation is still England's bitch.

Ahem, might I suggest that importing slaves also helped build your nation.

Several countries did that actually.  The US was not the first, but hopefully the last.   The US was still an English colony when they started importing slaves here.   The other Euro colonies did the same thing, since they almost killed off all the natives they enslaved in Haiti and Jamaica for example.   Almost if not all of our significant inventors were not slaves.   We benefited initially before the Industrial Revolution from slavery, except the South still wanted it because they were still relying on agriculture.   America at its most powerful was after WW2, when there was no slavery.   Any slaves imported into Austrailia at all?   At least you seem to have treated the natives better there.
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Re: Where did the US screw up?
« Reply #39 on: July 12, 2007, 12:34:16 AM »
In 1807, Britain became the first European nation to ban slavery. However, since Spain and Portugal did not follow the same rule. African slaves continued to be sent to countries in South America until near the end of the 19th century. Britain attempted to stop slave trade by trying to intercept the ships with war ships (off the west coast of Africa). When successfully intercepted the Africans were shipped back to Africa in the areas of Liberia ("Liberty") and Sierra Leone (Freetown) in West Africa, which was established by US and Britain anti-slavers as haven for freed slaves.

But the end still was yet to come, because in spite of the efforts to end slave trade slavery continued to be practiced in the Americas. The British freed slaves in the Caribbean colonies in 1883. Then the French abolished slavery in the American colonies soon afterwards. Slavery was not abolished in the US until 1864. Cuba and Brazil were the last countries in the Americas to abolish the practice of slavery in the late 19th century.
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http://www.allfreeessays.com/student/Slavery_and_the_History.html

Seems correct date wise from what I remember.
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Re: Where did the US screw up?
« Reply #40 on: July 12, 2007, 03:24:34 AM »
About the time they started chucking long estabilished peaceful indians off of their fertile land and allowing pig-ignorant fat gas-guzzling war-mongering childish celebrity obsessed morons like catkiller and calendale not only exist but allow them access to the internet when in any other less backwards society their weak genes would have been flushed out long before they even came into existence.

Well they started chucking "peaceful" native americans off their land LONG before cars and the internet were invented.   Those weak genes sure did quite a bit in 200 years of being a nation.   Where are you from?   I bet your nation is still England's bitch.

Ahem, might I suggest that importing slaves also helped build your nation.

Several countries did that actually.  The US was not the first, but hopefully the last.   The US was still an English colony when they started importing slaves here.   The other Euro colonies did the same thing, since they almost killed off all the natives they enslaved in Haiti and Jamaica for example.   Almost if not all of our significant inventors were not slaves.   We benefited initially before the Industrial Revolution from slavery, except the South still wanted it because they were still relying on agriculture.   America at its most powerful was after WW2, when there was no slavery.   Any slaves imported into Austrailia at all?   At least you seem to have treated the natives better there.

I'll take that as a dig at the way Australia has treated their Indigenous people.  My point was that your country was built on the efforts of many races, not one, as mine has been.  And a significant part of that growth was taking advantage of others, not due to natural selection of the fittest necessarily.


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Re: Where did the US screw up?
« Reply #41 on: July 12, 2007, 06:28:56 AM »
In 1807, Britain became the first European nation to ban slavery. However, since Spain and Portugal did not follow the same rule. African slaves continued to be sent to countries in South America until near the end of the 19th century. Britain attempted to stop slave trade by trying to intercept the ships with war ships (off the west coast of Africa). When successfully intercepted the Africans were shipped back to Africa in the areas of Liberia ("Liberty") and Sierra Leone (Freetown) in West Africa, which was established by US and Britain anti-slavers as haven for freed slaves.

i wonder why britain went through all this trouble.   i mean: countries are not just altruistic in their endeavers.  there must have been a bootom line that is not being discussed....debeers?
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Re: Where did the US screw up?
« Reply #42 on: July 12, 2007, 08:29:53 AM »
i wonder why britain went through all this trouble.   i mean: countries are not just altruistic in their endeavers.  there must have been a bootom line that is not being discussed....debeers?

Yeah the African diamond mines are fucking terrible.  It is true that both of the people who formed De Beers were English and so is the company itself (named the company after the two Dutch brothers who discovered the mines).    Britian had quite a few problems with its many colonies and probably thought the whole ordeal wasn't worth the effort.   The industrial revolution made it easier to do tasks that required more workers in the past, this made slavery less attractive to most.   De Beers had to be a factor though.

To Eclair:  I agree that America has benefitted greatly from immigrants, they come into our country and work extremely hard to make their way from the bottom.   I wouldn't be too proud if it only took one race to make my country great (maybe if I was 100% something I guess I would).   It is harder to integrate people from different cultures and have them work together towards common goals.   I was arguing that slaves (which were the topic not immigrants) were not that huge of a factor in making America great.   Their biggest contribution was Jazz music in my opinion, which is significant.

It wasn't really an intentional dig on how the Aussies treat their indigenous people, just saying indigenous people always seem to get treated like shit.   I could have referred to any European colony really.   I actually thought you treated the Aborigines better than we did with our own indians (our version of making up for it is letting them open casinos lol). 
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Re: Where did the US screw up?
« Reply #43 on: July 12, 2007, 09:36:43 AM »
So black and white some of you Scots are. England -- the root of all evils.

"Don't hate the player, hate the game" lol

Might makes right?   England was the most powerful nation in the world due to its navy for quite some time.   They did their fair share of good and bad.

Like all nations. I fail to see why the Scots have to view us as something unredeemably vile when we're not. Blame Braveheart and Mel Gibson's manboobs.

The Scottish people generate some of the most influential figures in the union, and yet they still winge that they receive bad treatment and are treated like second-class citizens.
Are you being sarcastic?  Who wouldn't complain about being treated poorly and as a second class citizen?

As far as the US screwing up?  It's religion... it's all religion fucking this place up.
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Re: Where did the US screw up?
« Reply #44 on: July 12, 2007, 09:42:01 AM »
"Glasgow is the largest and most dynamic economy in Scotland and is at the hub of the metropolitan area of West Central Scotland. The city itself sustains more than 410,000 jobs in over 12,000 companies. Over 153,000 jobs have been created in the city since 2000 - a growth rate of 32%.[43] Glasgow's annual economic growth rate of 4.4% is now second only to that of London. In 2005 alone over 17,000 new jobs were created, and 2006 saw private-sector investment in the city reaching £4.2 billion pounds, an increase of 22% in a single year.[44] The city has outstripped many of its European rivals in terms of economic growth. 55% of the residents in the Greater Glasgow area commute to the city every day. Once dominant Manufacturing industries such as shipbuilding and heavy engineering have been gradually replaced in importance by a modern mixed economy, supported by public and private investment and a skilled workforce.[45]"

So much for the Union then, eh?

And please, if they hate England so much, and that it's justifiable, why speak the language? Why not Gaelic? Talk about pot kettle black.
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