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Re: No more mantra, Odeon. Back yourself.
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2016, 10:35:39 AM »
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Re: No more mantra, Odeon. Back yourself.
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2016, 10:41:44 AM »
For fuck's sake, Al, get a life.

I missed this. Just back from a 50th. Danced like a madman. Both impressed my daughter and the friends of the birthday girl. Drank like a fish. Joined the girls for shots. Went to an after party. Kicked arse in pool. Had a blast. Missed the replies in this thread.

"Get a life"? Okay.

Is that your retort, Odeon? Really?

I am not online a lot of my "life":

* When I am on Twitter I read tweets in my timeline and on hashtags I am interested in and tweet when I feel like it.
* When I am reading select blogs I read and appreciate whatever the spin they put out there.
* I do the same with news sites.
* When I am on I2, I scan the replies and respond to when I find interesting and in whichever way I feel like.

Now what has this got to do with anything? Well, it says that ,my "life" is NOT IntensitySquared and only an absolute moron would try to draw that correlation. I would imagine that MOST of us have far more in life than I2. That the importance of I2 is marginal to negligible to our life. You think Work is less important? What about Family?. Hell, even Zegh has more than I2. You think dope is going to smoke itself or dinosaurs are going to draw themselves? You are not a complete moron so I will question your advice to get a life.

My life is fine. My life is not impacted by my posts or lack of posts or style or context of posts on IntensitySquared. So what DO you mean by "Get a life"? Is it stop arguing with me?

Is it code for, "I cannot back myself against you", like I implicitly agree to each time I log on. (Hey you are owner and webmaster. you can skirt the Back yourself obligation if you want to I suppose).
Same as you could choose not to read me. Hell I stopped reading Zegh.  I DO understand. (Of course I did not stop backing myself and nor did I call anyone intellectually dishonest for not reading me. I can be annoying and so can Zegh)

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that isn't getting a life Al :D

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Re: No more mantra, Odeon. Back yourself.
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2016, 10:54:23 AM »
"The back yourself obligation"? What obligation is that, Al? Please pick the one you meant:

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obligation
ɒblɪˈɡeɪʃ(ə)n/
noun
noun: obligation; plural noun: obligations

    an act or course of action to which a person is morally or legally bound; a duty or commitment.
    "I have an obligation to look after her"
    synonyms:   duty, commitment, responsibility, moral imperative; More
    function, task, job, chore, assignment, commission, business, burden, charge, onus, liability, accountability, requirement, debt, engagement;
    datedoffice;
    archaicdevoir;
    literarytrust
    "I have an obligation to look after her"
    duty, compulsion, indebtedness, duress, necessity, pressure, constraint
    "she took him in solely out of a sense of obligation"
        the condition of being morally or legally bound to do something.
        "they are under no obligation to stick to the scheme"
        a debt of gratitude for a service or favour.
        "she didn't want to be under an obligation to him"
        synonyms:   contract, agreement, deed, covenant, bond, treaty, deal, pact, compact, understanding, transaction More
        "the company's export obligations"
        owing someone a favour, obliged, beholden, in someone's debt, indebted, obligated, owing someone a debt of gratitude, duty-bound, honour-bound, grateful, owing someone thanks
        "she didn't want to be under an obligation to him"
        Law
        a binding agreement committing a person to a payment or other action.

Origin
Middle English (in the sense ‘formal promise’): via Old French from Latin obligatio(n- ), from the verb obligare (see oblige).

I'm done with the callout, in case you missed it. I have responded, and I have explained what I meant, but you don't like the explanations. You think they are "weak" and so you keep on posting and baiting, hoping I will be drawn back, somehow. It really looks like an obsession to me (are you going to call me out on that, too?), a fixation you are unable to let go of. And for what? Because I had the audacity to challenge your behaviour? Because--OMG, the horror!--I said what you did was intellectually dishonest?

I think you should try to accept that our opinions on this differ and will continue to differ. No amount of baiting (I like how you subtly reference the fact that I pay the bills here) will change this.

Oh, and "get a life" is an expression, which you very well know, a way of saying that you really, really, really should try to move on.
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Re: No more mantra, Odeon. Back yourself.
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2016, 08:11:36 PM »
"The back yourself obligation"? What obligation is that, Al? Please pick the one you meant:

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obligation
ɒblɪˈɡeɪʃ(ə)n/
noun
noun: obligation; plural noun: obligations

    an act or course of action to which a person is morally or legally bound; a duty or commitment.
    "I have an obligation to look after her"
    synonyms:   duty, commitment, responsibility, moral imperative; More
    function, task, job, chore, assignment, commission, business, burden, charge, onus, liability, accountability, requirement, debt, engagement;
    datedoffice;
    archaicdevoir;
    literarytrust
    "I have an obligation to look after her"
    duty, compulsion, indebtedness, duress, necessity, pressure, constraint
    "she took him in solely out of a sense of obligation"
        the condition of being morally or legally bound to do something.
        "they are under no obligation to stick to the scheme"
        a debt of gratitude for a service or favour.
        "she didn't want to be under an obligation to him"
        synonyms:   contract, agreement, deed, covenant, bond, treaty, deal, pact, compact, understanding, transaction More
        "the company's export obligations"
        owing someone a favour, obliged, beholden, in someone's debt, indebted, obligated, owing someone a debt of gratitude, duty-bound, honour-bound, grateful, owing someone thanks
        "she didn't want to be under an obligation to him"
        Law
        a binding agreement committing a person to a payment or other action.

Origin
Middle English (in the sense ‘formal promise’): via Old French from Latin obligatio(n- ), from the verb obligare (see oblige).

I'm done with the callout, in case you missed it. I have responded, and I have explained what I meant, but you don't like the explanations. You think they are "weak" and so you keep on posting and baiting, hoping I will be drawn back, somehow. It really looks like an obsession to me (are you going to call me out on that, too?), a fixation you are unable to let go of. And for what? Because I had the audacity to challenge your behaviour? Because--OMG, the horror!--I said what you did was intellectually dishonest?

I think you should try to accept that our opinions on this differ and will continue to differ. No amount of baiting (I like how you subtly reference the fact that I pay the bills here) will change this.

Oh, and "get a life" is an expression, which you very well know, a way of saying that you really, really, really should try to move on.

Oh....okay so the expression "Get a life" is merely an expression and not actually a deeper point about the person having no "life", so to speak. It is not a great point about any lack, it is merely saying stop doing X because it is pointless/stupid/not worth your effort/annoying? In fact trying to position such a comment in terms of a broader context of the person's life and lending the expression more than a surface level of derision or insult is "probably"intellectually dishonest?

Do you think what I just wrote is fair?

If so I will ask, and under EXACTLY the same standard, whether saying someone is "full of shit" is merely an expression or whether it likewise needs to be applied to everything someone says or writes at all time and that the person calling it has to be a party to all interactions at all time in order to "pass such judgment"?


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If you asked (without context) people at random, whether they thought
a) Obama
b) Hillary Clinton
c) Bernie Sanders
d) Donald Trump
e) Glenn Beck
f) Rush Limbaugh
g) Bill O'Reilly

were full of shit. Most people (presuming that they know who these people are) would agree with that assessment with at least a couple of those people. (I think I'd agree each of them to at least some degree). The expression does NOT and NEVER has conferred an expectation that you must know everything they have said or religiously follow them. Watch a handful of Glenn Beck interviews and if you are not convinced the guy is completely full of shit, you are seriously without any appreciable intellectual rigour. You do not HAVE to watch EVERYTHING he says to give you a moral hi five that you can hold the incontestable position that you are right about him, and NOT doing so does not make you intellectually dishonest when you proclaim he is full of shit.
I2 today is not i2 of yesteryear. It is a knitting circle. Those that participate be they nice or asshats know their place and the price to be there. Odeon is the overlord

.Benevolent if you toe the line.

Think it is I2 of old? Even Odeon is not so delusional as to think otherwise. He may on occasionally pretend otherwise but his base is that knitting circle.

Censoring/banning/restricting/moderating myself, Calanadale & Scrapheap were all not his finest moments.

How to apologise to Scrap

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Re: No more mantra, Odeon. Back yourself.
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2016, 08:21:03 PM »
"The back yourself obligation"? What obligation is that, Al? Please pick the one you meant:

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obligation
ɒblɪˈɡeɪʃ(ə)n/
noun
noun: obligation; plural noun: obligations

    an act or course of action to which a person is morally or legally bound; a duty or commitment.
    "I have an obligation to look after her"
    synonyms:   duty, commitment, responsibility, moral imperative; More
    function, task, job, chore, assignment, commission, business, burden, charge, onus, liability, accountability, requirement, debt, engagement;
    datedoffice;
    archaicdevoir;
    literarytrust
    "I have an obligation to look after her"
    duty, compulsion, indebtedness, duress, necessity, pressure, constraint
    "she took him in solely out of a sense of obligation"
        the condition of being morally or legally bound to do something.
        "they are under no obligation to stick to the scheme"
        a debt of gratitude for a service or favour.
        "she didn't want to be under an obligation to him"
        synonyms:   contract, agreement, deed, covenant, bond, treaty, deal, pact, compact, understanding, transaction More
        "the company's export obligations"
        owing someone a favour, obliged, beholden, in someone's debt, indebted, obligated, owing someone a debt of gratitude, duty-bound, honour-bound, grateful, owing someone thanks
        "she didn't want to be under an obligation to him"
        Law
        a binding agreement committing a person to a payment or other action.

Origin
Middle English (in the sense ‘formal promise’): via Old French from Latin obligatio(n- ), from the verb obligare (see oblige).

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You have found INTENSITY², the autistic spectrum site everyone loves to hate.

We stand for freedom of expression, combative debate, and the generation of ideas. There are no boundaries here over what may be said, save for one rule - be prepared to back up your words. Or face the wrath of the community.

As such this site is not suitable for children. If you are under 18 please come back when you aren't any more.

If you are over 18 and have the bottle for it

Every time you log in. That is what EVERY member of this community logs in with the obligation. Is it "legally enforceable"? No. But make no mistake it is an obligation that if you post on I2 you do so under the condition that you may be challenged and if so it is a necessity that you back yourself.

So thanks again for your definitions but again they rather make the point for me.
I2 today is not i2 of yesteryear. It is a knitting circle. Those that participate be they nice or asshats know their place and the price to be there. Odeon is the overlord

.Benevolent if you toe the line.

Think it is I2 of old? Even Odeon is not so delusional as to think otherwise. He may on occasionally pretend otherwise but his base is that knitting circle.

Censoring/banning/restricting/moderating myself, Calanadale & Scrapheap were all not his finest moments.

How to apologise to Scrap

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Re: No more mantra, Odeon. Back yourself.
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2016, 08:28:56 PM »
It is an obligation!
"make no mistake!"

Or face the wrath of the community!

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Re: No more mantra, Odeon. Back yourself.
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2016, 01:48:33 AM »
::sigh::

This is an obsession for you now, Al, hence the expression "get a life". You, on the other hand, spend months going after Zegh while proudly stating that you've stopped reading him, the action equivalent of the phrase "full of shit". In other words, both actions and words, for months.

If I had spent anything near that time insisting you should get a life while blindly ignoring anything you might say in your defence, then you might have a point.

Might.

Oh, and I have backed up my words. You refuse to acknowledge that, but the community seems to be fine with it cos there's no wrath anywhere in sight. If anything, they avoid these threads like the plague.
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Re: No more mantra, Odeon. Back yourself.
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2016, 02:25:32 AM »
::sigh::

This is an obsession for you now, Al, hence the expression "get a life". You, on the other hand, spend months going after Zegh while proudly stating that you've stopped reading him, the action equivalent of the phrase "full of shit". In other words, both actions and words, for months.

If I had spent anything near that time insisting you should get a life while blindly ignoring anything you might say in your defence, then you might have a point.

Might.

Oh, and I have backed up my words. You refuse to acknowledge that, but the community seems to be fine with it cos there's no wrath anywhere in sight. If anything, they avoid these threads like the plague.

No, I absolutely have a point and you ought to know this.

The expression "Get a life" is not a literal definition and nor does it require a deeper examination. People when they use it, use it to denounce the object of their derision and are signalling their displeasure at that person's actions.

The expression "Full of shit" is not a literal definition and nor does it require the person requiring a deeper insight into everything someone says. It could be based off one conversation or an impression or a series of actions. It DOES NOT require you have hears or read everything someone says NOR that you are studying them. (ie If you watch a couple of interviews with Glenn Beck, you would certainly be in good company saying he is full of shit. There would not be an expectation to watch and read everything he says for the next six months. Nor would you be intellectually dishonest if you proclaimed this after not having watched or read him for 6 month. Only an absolute idiot would argue that point.) People use that when they use it, use it to denounce the value of the object of their derision and they are signalling their displeasure at that person.

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"hypocrisy" in British English
 See all translations
hypocrisy
noun UK    /hɪˈpɒk.rɪ.si/  US    /hɪˈpɑː.krə.si/ disapproving
       
C2 a situation in which someone pretends to believe something that they do not really believe, or that is the opposite of what they do or say at another time:
There's one rule for her and another rule for everyone else and it's sheer hypocrisy.
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Her strongest criticism was reserved for the prime minister whom she accused of 'nauseating hypocrisy'.
I'm amazed at the hypocrisy of the man - buying a foreign car after urging everyone else to buy British products.
In constantly criticizing others for being intolerant while refusing to hear anyone else's view, they are guilty of supreme hypocrisy.
His behaviour in this whole affair does rather savour of hypocrisy - he's certainly not without blame himself.
Why can't politicians just be honest with themselves and stop all this hypocrisy?
(Definition of hypocrisy from the Cambridge Advanced Learner’s Dictionary & Thesaurus © Cambridge University Press)

I2 today is not i2 of yesteryear. It is a knitting circle. Those that participate be they nice or asshats know their place and the price to be there. Odeon is the overlord

.Benevolent if you toe the line.

Think it is I2 of old? Even Odeon is not so delusional as to think otherwise. He may on occasionally pretend otherwise but his base is that knitting circle.

Censoring/banning/restricting/moderating myself, Calanadale & Scrapheap were all not his finest moments.

How to apologise to Scrap

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Re: No more mantra, Odeon. Back yourself.
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2016, 01:41:13 PM »
So where is the wrath of the community? This is deep waters for you, mate.
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Re: No more mantra, Odeon. Back yourself.
« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2016, 11:59:59 PM »
So where is the wrath of the community? This is deep waters for you, mate.

Not at all.
  • If you abuse an animal, you MAY get a large fine. Therefore THAT is the main reason not to abuse animals?
  • If you park in a disabled zone, you MAY get a fine. That is your punishment. Therefore that is the main reason not to do it, right?
  • If you steal someone's wallet or purse you MAY get caught. If you do you may get caught and MAY end up in jail. (though probably will not if first offence). Therefore that is the main reason  court or jail risk?
  • If you do not back your words on IntensitySquared, you may incur the wrath of the community, Therefore the only reason you should not is the wrath you MAY invoke?

Except, you are not really that silly, Odeon and the only reason you are making the argument about the wrath of the community (and no, let's not go with the "You bought it up" as it was not what I underlined), is that it is a distraction away from my premise of the similar explanations between "Get a life" and "Full of shit" as mere expressions.

So this argument like your claim of me tiptoeing, being dishonest, me pretending and so forth, is dead in the water. The reason it is ought not need to be explained. Quite simply the spirit of the board is and always has been to foster a culture whereby people in this "on the spectrum" community can discuss things in a combative way without risking banning or censoring. Conversely with only one rule, enforcing this rule is more than difficult without said risk of censorship. So what is the only counter to this if the member does not adhere? The punishment is the wrath of the community. You do NOT think this is the sole reason that people ought to back themselves on I2. You are an idiot if you truly believe this and I do not think you are.

No, this is a mere distraction from the very similarly compared claims of me needing to "get a life" and my saying Zegh is "full of shit". Neither, as expressions, need a deeper reading, and in doing so would show an ignorance that neither you nor I  have, and looks disingenuous.

The expression "Get a life" is not a literal definition and nor does it require a deeper examination. People when they use it, use it to denounce the object of their derision and are signalling their displeasure at that person's actions.

The expression "Full of shit" is not a literal definition and nor does it require the person requiring a deeper insight into everything someone says. It could be based off one conversation or an impression or a series of actions. It DOES NOT require you have heard or read everything someone says NOR that you are studying them (ie If you watch a couple of interviews with Glenn Beck, you would certainly be in good company saying he is full of shit. There would not be an expectation to watch and read everything he says for the next six months. Nor would you be intellectually dishonest if you proclaimed this after not having watched or read him for 6 month. Only an absolute idiot would argue that point). People use that when they use it, use it to denounce the value of the object of their derision and they are signalling their displeasure at that person.

This all comes back to where I was a few months ago with you. I have a nose for bullshit, Odeon.
There is something bigger here. It never smelled right. This is why I have pursued it as I have. It is not personal, nor upsetting per se. It all seems terribly beneath you intellectually and so I think the reason for you doubling down and denying is something else.

  • Your original claims were NOT JUST about me being intellectually dishonest but of being dishonest as well and of pretending, assuming things, and so on. You since dropped this claims or merged them into your greater claim
  • You raised some point about something I said about Butterflies ("ganging up")and when I addressed it, you tried the crazy argument technique of questioning ME raising it (points for originality)
  • You posted the definition of Intellectual Dishonesty as though I needed that explanation to know what the term meant. In fact I answered every aspect of the term, to show it wanting (something that unto itself, would run against the grain of "transparency" for intellectual dishonesty)
  • You then kept repeating variations of the Mantra "You did not read Zegh, so you can't know for sure, he is full of shit, therefore you are intellectually dishonest". Then admonishing me when I had the temerity to question why this alone makes a case for intellectual dishonesty
  • You tried a new tact and said that I was tiptoeing around DFG. This was an even weaker claim and you soon dropped it
  • Changing tact you suggested I was not Intellectually dishonest afterall and it was a blindspot I had. That premise went nowhere and you gravitated back to the Intellectually dishonest premise again.
  • I then showed a few instances of YOU using the term. Once with Calandale - to whom you could NOT have read everything he said for 6 months either (and so could not have been absolutely sure he was "full of shit" .... as if that was ever an argument worth making) and secondly I showed you casting such sentiments to Dr Bitch to something she said in one of her 18 posts, after having joined the day before. You did not (chose not to?) see the similarity of what you were doing and what you accused me of doing
  • You then tried to reference Zegh as a reference point to support your claims (I just can't tell you how bizarre this is). Not only have I stopped reading him (because he is full of shit) but referencing him after suggesting that I was wrong about my suggestions you were "sticking up for him", you now try to use him as a reference point to your arguments of my feuding with him. No bias?
  • Now I find you telling me to "get a life" and point out the examination of such a generalised insult is stupid and disingenuous AND more importantly, very similar in nature to saying someone is "full of shit". You agreed that get a life was a "mere expression". You have yet to see the hypocrisy.

What all the above tells me is that this line of premise is crap and always was. You likely were not expecting to get challenged, or in the way that I have. You were not expecting or wanting to give ground. You doubled down on what you knew was really weak. You did this for a reason that had NOTHING to do with me being Intellectually Dishonest and I don't think you actually even believed it.

I could be wrong. It does happen. But now trying to sell me on the fact that Zegh now says this or that to support you, is like me trying to evidence you being wrong by referencing something Sol says against you. Yes it is THAT stupid and disingenuous AND that not like you.

You have to have a good reason to act the way you have, and to have done so from the outset. I think it was simply that you were starting to get sick and tired of Zegh and I feuding, me not reading Zegh, spamming Ninja Cats and you were wanting it to stop. You possibly thought that to shame my methods of posting and accuse me of being dishonest, assuming things, being intellectually dishonest, pretending, being intellectually lazy, tiptoeing and use dramatic phrases no matter the consequences. Maybe you thought I would get too distracted or maybe embarrassed or maybe that once pointed out, the rest of the board would join in and I would feel obliged to self-censor. The problem is that it did not work and you have distanced yourself now from everything but the "intellectually dishonest"claim. That claim is looking from where I sit, pretty petty and hypocritical, considering how you use not only other similar general insults and derision BUT also how you use the term itself. I think you wanted to side with Zegh without appearing partisan. Too late for that now.

I honestly believe that this is the case and after having doubled down and given some ground you do not wish to admit what seems transparent to me. I would not have had much of an issue if you had not have just said, "You know, you weren't being intellectually dishonest BUT you were pissing me off and others in I2 were not liking it either. I do blame your part in things more than Zegh and I was just wanting you to stop and hoped by saying something, anything, that you would just drop it." That would seem quite fair. Hell, I may have even considered dropping things with Zegh. No you doubled down again and again after being called on it. So I too will double down with you and with Zegh.

Terrible shame, Odeon. I expected better.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2016, 12:37:38 AM by Al Swearengen »
I2 today is not i2 of yesteryear. It is a knitting circle. Those that participate be they nice or asshats know their place and the price to be there. Odeon is the overlord

.Benevolent if you toe the line.

Think it is I2 of old? Even Odeon is not so delusional as to think otherwise. He may on occasionally pretend otherwise but his base is that knitting circle.

Censoring/banning/restricting/moderating myself, Calanadale & Scrapheap were all not his finest moments.

How to apologise to Scrap

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Re: No more mantra, Odeon. Back yourself.
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2016, 07:34:16 AM »
It's kind of funny how you have no idea how insane you are, Al.
Kind of.

If you weren't such a harmless lump, it could have been worrying, but it isn't really :D

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Re: No more mantra, Odeon. Back yourself.
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2016, 08:26:53 AM »
It's kind of funny how you have no idea how insane you are, Al.
Kind of.

If you weren't such a harmless lump, it could have been worrying, but it isn't really :D

Hey Zegh! Great you could chime in. How did you go with all of that? Let me guess? You said:

Something snarky and condescending about the length of my post?
Something snarky and condescending about how old and or senile I am?
Something snarky and condescending about me being fat?
Something snarky and condescending about the fact I am divorced?
Something snarky and condescending about how I am still going?
Something snarky and condescending about how crazy I am?
Something snarky and condescending about what I think or don't about you?
Something snarky and condescending about how awesome Odeon is and in turn, how bad I am?

It was pretty short whatever it was. Hallmarks of a throwaway insult.

You know Odeon makes a song and dance about how if I don't read you I can not know you are full of shit....but I will need convincing that you are not here in this call out posting some snarky condescending little throwaway insult. You are full of shit and will be tomorrow as you were yesterday.

Go draw some dinosaurs LOL.
I2 today is not i2 of yesteryear. It is a knitting circle. Those that participate be they nice or asshats know their place and the price to be there. Odeon is the overlord

.Benevolent if you toe the line.

Think it is I2 of old? Even Odeon is not so delusional as to think otherwise. He may on occasionally pretend otherwise but his base is that knitting circle.

Censoring/banning/restricting/moderating myself, Calanadale & Scrapheap were all not his finest moments.

How to apologise to Scrap

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Re: No more mantra, Odeon. Back yourself.
« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2016, 12:35:35 AM »
Bloody hell, mate.

I decided to trust you on not tiptoeing around DFG since you made a good argument. Are you saying I shouldn't have?

The "full of shit" expression is just that, an expression, just like "get a life" is. Yet you seem to treat both as if they somehow were instrumental to my claiming you were intellectually dishonest.

This literal-mindedness then leads you to searching the board for instances of me using "full of shit", and spotting a couple of them where I said Cal was full of shit. He was, frequently, and admitted as much. But I moved on, and he moved on. You, however, seem unable to.

And then there is this obligation/wrath of the community thing. Here is the thing: I'm betting that if the community really thought I hadn't backed up my stuff, we would have heard about it. We haven't.

And finally, the bullshit you say you're smelling, I don't think the smell is from this direction. You might want to check your own trail first.
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Re: No more mantra, Odeon. Back yourself.
« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2016, 03:12:41 AM »
Bloody hell, mate.

I decided to trust you on not tiptoeing around DFG since you made a good argument. Are you saying I shouldn't have?

The "full of shit" expression is just that, an expression, just like "get a life" is. Yet you seem to treat both as if they somehow were instrumental to my claiming you were intellectually dishonest.

This literal-mindedness then leads you to searching the board for instances of me using "full of shit", and spotting a couple of them where I said Cal was full of shit. He was, frequently, and admitted as much. But I moved on, and he moved on. You, however, seem unable to.

And then there is this obligation/wrath of the community thing. Here is the thing: I'm betting that if the community really thought I hadn't backed up my stuff, we would have heard about it. We haven't.

And finally, the bullshit you say you're smelling, I don't think the smell is from this direction. You might want to check your own trail first.

Indeed the reason you have given for my apparent intellectual dishonest is to say that Zegh is full of shit without reading him (thus knowing for sure) therefore ..... intellectually dishonest"

I am happy to reference it with quotes you made to that effect.

I actually agree that they are just expressions. I also agree that I am not intellectually dishonest for making such proclamations about Zegh without reading him any more. 

In fact all the above is my point. I am not intellectually dishonest for not reading Zegh.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2016, 04:37:19 PM by Al Swearengen »
I2 today is not i2 of yesteryear. It is a knitting circle. Those that participate be they nice or asshats know their place and the price to be there. Odeon is the overlord

.Benevolent if you toe the line.

Think it is I2 of old? Even Odeon is not so delusional as to think otherwise. He may on occasionally pretend otherwise but his base is that knitting circle.

Censoring/banning/restricting/moderating myself, Calanadale & Scrapheap were all not his finest moments.

How to apologise to Scrap

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Re: No more mantra, Odeon. Back yourself.
« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2016, 08:27:09 AM »
If we make a search of my name, 80% of the results will lead to Al's posts