Confederate Flag appreciation thread.

[benjimanbreeg]

We have awards and such for non whites who celebrate their heritages, yet if white people dare to do it, they are Nazis.  People are so brainwashed that it's comical.

You don't have any national holidays celebrating your heritage? 

Only private ones orgainised by the BNP.

Oh, those Nazis.  Seriously though, I guess that just seems weird to me because the UK has a lot of history so I figured they would have some national holidays related to that. In the US Nationalism isn't necessarily considered synonymous with racism, and we have a few national heritage based holidays. Sure some people definitely disguise racism with nationalism US, but overall I think Americans are definitely programmed from youth to be highly nationalistic so it's not really considered a negative thing here. USA!! USA!! USA!!  American Fuck Yeah!

Which is even weirder as it shouldn't even be their country.  These things are done to simply wind up anyone who's conservative minded.  All the things in the past do not matter here anymore anyway, as this country has been destroyed beyond repair.  People actually cheer and do cartwheels celebrating their destruction as more Africans and Arabs pour into Europe. 

[Bastet]

Just how is it a symbol of oppression??   

I dunno... maybe the fact that it was flown by the fucking Confederates? The guys who wanted to keep slavery!?

I didn't realize slavery wasn't oppression. My mistake. 

That's not true. That's the "official" story we've been spoon fed too goddamn lazy to elaborate maybe Rage can if he gets his hairy ass back.

No it isn't. Idiot.

This name calling was unwarranted unprovoked and childish and done based on your offended sensibilities. You could have asked me to elaborate like an actual adult but chose to name call like a child hence the picture of the baby crying I posted that seemed to fly over your head. You then went on a narcissistic tangent about America and emotions during wartime to try and "prove" how you weren't offended.

[Bastet]

Accidentally posted send I had more to say FYI

[ZEGH8578]

And I care.. why?

[Bastet]

The whole flag brouhaha was a distraction, a sideshow to use social engineering to control the public keeping them ignorant from the TPP Agreement

https://ustr.gov/tpp/

But true to the self absorption you tend to show you had to showboat. Americans rights are being snatched away from them but you are Norwegian what do you know? You are too busy being narcissistic and picking on someone who has never even attacked before you started in on them. An apology is in order. That's what an adult would do...

[Bastet]

And I care.. why?

You cared enough to insult me, son. I obviously upset you.

[ZEGH8578]

Where to begin...

1) I'm not gonna apologize for your new-found interest and noobish approach to world politics. Grow the fuck up.

2) Oh, so there are distractions, white flags and conspiracies now? Are they whenever you say they are? Also, this makes a difference how? The flag-brouhaha wasn't a distraction to take your rights away - it WAS an effort TO take your rights away. The "conspiracy" is right in front of your eyes, but you delude yourself into believing it was hidden, and you were so special to spot it.

3) You're right, I'm not gonna come running to fight for Americans, I'm more interested in Norway, you know, cus I live here. You may think that's unpatriotic of me, but you don't understand that in Spain - a patriot cares about Spain, in Peru - about Peru, and so on. America is not more important than other countries - to those countries.

4) We're not discussing the TPP so don't even try, you little straw-grasper you.

Anyway, you are excrutiatingly boring..

[Bastet]

The whole flag brouhaha was a distraction, a sideshow to use social engineering to control the public keeping them ignorant from the TPP Agreement

https://ustr.gov/tpp/

But true to the self absorption you tend to show you had to showboat. Americans rights are being snatched away from them but you are Norwegian what do you know? You are too busy being narcissistic and picking on someone who has never even attacked before you started in on them. An apology is in order. That's what an adult would do...

You are the one straw grasping and projecting it is sad. You do this with everyone you argue with. You love arguing online it is your comfort zone. You can't discuss anything like an adult. You must act like a petulant child. You destroyed yourself any and all future prospects for yourself and you choose to take it out on me. Might I remind you the op is about the confederate flag which is in the US also I will point out you have missed out where I was making fun of you and being sarcastic and taking my posts literally but I suppose you can blame your autism for that.

['andersom']

The word slave stems from the Slavs. Otto the Great captured and sold so many Slavic citizens that the word slave started to change meaning.

The original meaning did not get lost though.

You don't see many Hollywood productions about white slaves.

Otto the first did not trade cross-Atlantic. Neither did the Romans. 

There are of course other reasons than that.

The white slaves that have been there for millennia in Europe did mingle in with the rest of the people. And over time traces of names were gone too. So it is not visible who stems from slavery and who not.

Slavery from the seventeenth century was, in the white part of the world, race based, very visible, and it was a cross-ocean thing. The whole world was part of it. From people selling people in Africa, to sailors and merchants bringing them across the ocean, to people buying them.
Mixing over time happened too, but visual traces are not gone. Who knows how that will be after a few more centuries.
Also, it is not that long ago, and lots and lots of nations were involved. Way bigger impact on historic memory.

That's not true in the slightest.  Irish slaves were white, obviously.  And if you're implying that it was also just white people taking black slaves, you're missing that millions of Europeans were taken as slaves by the Arabs. 

We only have it pumped into us about African slaves, not because of the impact or because of it being more recent (which is wrong anyway), but because it can show white people doing something awful to blacks and feed the race baiting agenda, and basically make sure white people stay guilty and dare not complain about immigration etc.

Hun, I claimed nowhere that only white people took/take slaves.
I'm not that optimistic about humanity to single a group out of the human race as a people so elevated that they do not take slaves.

I only tried to answer why the Hollywood films on slavery are not as diverse as the history on slavery is.

Slaves have always been taken, from way before the word slave was coined, till this very day. Slaves in all kinds of colours, taken by people of all kinds of colours.

Systematic shipping slaves by one of the earliest multinationals all over the world did not start before the 17th century by my knowledge. The WIC happened to trade in African slaves.

And family memories on slavery are fresher from people who were slave in the USA than in the families of people enslaved by Otto 1.
Also, Hollywood happens to be in the USA. Makes a difference. They do make more movies on stories connected to American history than on stories connected to non American history.

['andersom']

We only have it pumped into us about African slaves, not because of the impact or because of it being more recent (which is wrong anyway), but because it can show white people doing something awful to blacks and feed the race baiting agenda, and basically make sure white people stay guilty and dare not complain about immigration etc.

Oh, I forgot to address this. There has been enough complaining about white immigrants to make your claim invalid.
And I don't know about the UK, but in the Netherlands, it is not only white people voting for Geert Wilders and complaining about immigration.

[rock hound]

Gotta say this:  I appreciate the Confederate flag in flames or at least tatters!     

[benjimanbreeg]

The word slave stems from the Slavs. Otto the Great captured and sold so many Slavic citizens that the word slave started to change meaning.

The original meaning did not get lost though.

You don't see many Hollywood productions about white slaves.

Otto the first did not trade cross-Atlantic. Neither did the Romans. 

There are of course other reasons than that.

The white slaves that have been there for millennia in Europe did mingle in with the rest of the people. And over time traces of names were gone too. So it is not visible who stems from slavery and who not.

Slavery from the seventeenth century was, in the white part of the world, race based, very visible, and it was a cross-ocean thing. The whole world was part of it. From people selling people in Africa, to sailors and merchants bringing them across the ocean, to people buying them.
Mixing over time happened too, but visual traces are not gone. Who knows how that will be after a few more centuries.
Also, it is not that long ago, and lots and lots of nations were involved. Way bigger impact on historic memory.

That's not true in the slightest.  Irish slaves were white, obviously.  And if you're implying that it was also just white people taking black slaves, you're missing that millions of Europeans were taken as slaves by the Arabs. 

We only have it pumped into us about African slaves, not because of the impact or because of it being more recent (which is wrong anyway), but because it can show white people doing something awful to blacks and feed the race baiting agenda, and basically make sure white people stay guilty and dare not complain about immigration etc.

Hun, I claimed nowhere that only white people took/take slaves.
I'm not that optimistic about humanity to single a group out of the human race as a people so elevated that they do not take slaves.

I only tried to answer why the Hollywood films on slavery are not as diverse as the history on slavery is.

Slaves have always been taken, from way before the word slave was coined, till this very day. Slaves in all kinds of colours, taken by people of all kinds of colours.

Systematic shipping slaves by one of the earliest multinationals all over the world did not start before the 17th century by my knowledge. The WIC happened to trade in African slaves.

And family memories on slavery are fresher from people who were slave in the USA than in the families of people enslaved by Otto 1.
Also, Hollywood happens to be in the USA. Makes a difference. They do make more movies on stories connected to American history than on stories connected to non American history.

Hence why I said "if".  Good.

Yeah, and you incorrect as to why.  It doesn't sell and fit the agenda they are pushing. 

I didn't say otherwise about it not happening before the seventeenth century. 

But just as fresh with the Irish slaves, but again, it doesn't sell and who cares if white people enslave other whites.  Yet they don't seem to make many about the genocide of the Native Americans.  It isn't all just a coincidence as to what they make movies about, you do realise that?

[benjimanbreeg]

We only have it pumped into us about African slaves, not because of the impact or because of it being more recent (which is wrong anyway), but because it can show white people doing something awful to blacks and feed the race baiting agenda, and basically make sure white people stay guilty and dare not complain about immigration etc.

Oh, I forgot to address this. There has been enough complaining about white immigrants to make your claim invalid.
And I don't know about the UK, but in the Netherlands, it is not only white people voting for Geert Wilders and complaining about immigration.

I didn't mention the color of immigrants. 
Yeah, people of all colors group together with those EDL type groups and all hate Muslims as one, which is the intention.  It happens in the UK too.  And they all love Israel, which is hilarious, considering who's behind mass immigration and multiculturalism and how Israel was founded upon terrorism against the British. 

['andersom']

Maybe that belongs to another thread. Bringing in Israel in this one about the confederate flag could be just a derailment, but there are so many threads about Israel already.

[benjimanbreeg]

Maybe that belongs to another thread. Bringing in Israel in this one about the confederate flag could be just a derailment, but there are so many threads about Israel already.

Well, I just mentioned it because of people like Wilders.  It's very much related.  People like him, Pat Condell and Douglas Murray especially are dangerous, because people believe their tripe.