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Are courts being fair if they use 'hate crime enhancements'?

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Re: Are hate crime enhancements fair?
« Reply #165 on: November 29, 2012, 04:18:25 PM »
The point is actually that this kind of stuff shouldn't have to be enforced. Everyone knows right from wrong.

  I'm not sure everyone *does* know right from wrong.  The greater problem is with the many people who
  don't care.   :(
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Re: Are hate crime enhancements fair?
« Reply #166 on: November 29, 2012, 07:58:39 PM »
The point is actually that this kind of stuff shouldn't have to be enforced. Everyone knows right from wrong.

Everyone has their own interpretation of what is right or wrong.
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Re: Are hate crime enhancements fair?
« Reply #167 on: November 29, 2012, 09:11:52 PM »
I'm sick of seeing minorities compete for victim status, and non-minorities scouring their souls for any sign of differences so that they can come up with a new minority label and get their share of the cake. Because sometimes it is cake and not legitimate socioeconomic disadvantage. Besides if there are enough of you to get together in a group and advocate for your group's interest, you're not falling all the way through the cracks and somebody else still is. So hate crime enhancements give the appearance of punishing discrimination without actually solving the problem.

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Re: Are hate crime enhancements fair?
« Reply #168 on: November 30, 2012, 10:00:20 AM »
I'm sick of seeing minorities compete for victim status, and non-minorities scouring their souls for any sign of differences so that they can come up with a new minority label and get their share of the cake. Because sometimes it is cake and not legitimate socioeconomic disadvantage. Besides if there are enough of you to get together in a group and advocate for your group's interest, you're not falling all the way through the cracks and somebody else still is. So hate crime enhancements give the appearance of punishing discrimination without actually solving the problem.

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Re: Are hate crime enhancements fair?
« Reply #169 on: November 30, 2012, 02:24:37 PM »
The point is actually that this kind of stuff shouldn't have to be enforced. Everyone knows right from wrong.

  I'm not sure everyone *does* know right from wrong.  The greater problem is with the many people who
  don't care.   :(

That is the problem. Everyone knows its wrong to savagely beat a child for making a bunch of noise in a library or something. Some of the human race seems to just not give a shit though.

I said that the honor system SHOULD work. Didn't say it would. Even the most evil person has that little nagging in tthe back of their mind when they do something funementally wrong. But everyone does something wrong sometimes. Thats why we need some laws I guess.

It just really annoys me that some folks seem to be able to make a very good living coming up with laws all fucking day, every day. I don't see that as necessary.
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Re: Are hate crime enhancements fair?
« Reply #170 on: November 30, 2012, 08:47:58 PM »
I am racist against the human race.
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Re: Are hate crime enhancements fair?
« Reply #171 on: November 30, 2012, 09:11:53 PM »
It's clothes.  People have only been wearing them 170'000 years.  Before this shoplifting was virtually unheard of :zoinks:

nekkid shopping will bring down the crime rate  whooo hooo
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Re: Are hate crime enhancements fair?
« Reply #172 on: December 01, 2012, 03:09:16 PM »
I am racist against the human race.

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Re: Are hate crime enhancements fair?
« Reply #173 on: December 01, 2012, 03:29:28 PM »
I am racist against the human race.

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Re: Are hate crime enhancements fair?
« Reply #174 on: April 13, 2013, 09:27:11 AM »
It might act o deter race based crimes.
America has a rich history o white people doing whatever the fuckery want to, as long as what they do is to a person of color.  It's white entitlement.
Begin to attach harsher sentences to these crimes and whitey might think twice.
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