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Greetings to Mugwump
« on: August 06, 2012, 09:49:07 PM »
May I extend a warm and hearty welcome to our modest board?  Although you may seem to be reluctant to reveal much about yourself, I present sources/explanations of the term mugwump.  You will have to tell us which of these is yours. 

This archetypal American word derives from the Algonquian dialect of Native Americans in Massachusetts. In their language, it meant “war leader”. The Puritan missionary John Eliot used it in his translation of the Bible into their language in 1663 to convey the English words duke, officer and captain.
 
Mugwump was brought into English in the early nineteenth century as a humorous term for a boss, bigwig, grand panjandrum, or other person in authority, although often one of a minor and inconsequential sort. This example comes from a story in an 1867 issue of Atlantic Monthly: “I’ve got one of your gang in irons — the Great Mugwump himself, I reckon — strongly guarded by men armed to the teeth; so you just ride up here and surrender”.
 
It hit the big time in 1884, during the presidential election that set Grover Cleveland against the Republican James G Blaine. Some Republicans refused to support Blaine, changed sides, and the New York Sun labelled them little mugwumps. Almost overnight, the sense of the word changed to turncoat. Later, it came to mean a politician who either could not or would not make up his mind on some important issue, or who refused to take a stand when he was expected to do so. Hence the old joke that a mugwump is a person sitting on the fence, with his mug on one side and his wump on the other.
 
There is also a slangy sense — less known these days, I believe — of a person who has been persuaded by his possession of a minor official position into a sense of self-importance, often becoming obnoxious as a result.
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Re: Greetings to Mugwump
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2012, 09:51:21 PM »
Hello. :)
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Re: Greetings to Mugwump
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2012, 11:04:53 PM »
Cool.

I am somewhat aware of the word's origins, though I had first seen it used in William S. Burroughs' Naked Lunch, from Hassan's Rumpus Room sequence.

However this definition is also applicable:

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2 : a person who is independent (as in politics) or who remains undecided or neutral.

Thanks for the welcome party!  I hope I can offer a bit of good humour to this place.  :D
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Re: Greetings to Mugwump
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2012, 03:01:30 AM »
Hi Mugwump.

:welcome:

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Re: Greetings to Mugwump
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2012, 04:31:50 AM »
Hi Mugwump

I was about to just say "hi" and be done with that....then i actually read your reply.

Any reference to William S Burroughs deserves some recognition. :plus: i rarely flash karma gifts as i prefer the sneaky approach but Burroughs makes me feel like being open 8)

Some quotes from Burroughs for those that are not familiar:

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After one look at this planet any visitor from outer space would say "I WANT TO SEE THE MANAGER."


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Victimless crimes are the lifeline of the RIGHT virus. And there is a growing recognition, even in official quarters, that victimless crimes should be removed from the books or subject to minimal penalties. Those individuals who cannot or will not mind their business cling to the victimless-crime concept, equating drug use and private sexual behavior with robbery and murder. If the right to mind one's own business is recognized, the whole shit disposition is untenable and Hell hath no vociferous fury than an endangered parasite.

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If you're doin' business with a religious son of a bitch, get it in writing. His word isn't worth shit, not with the Good Lord tellin' him how to fuck you on the deal.

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Perhaps all pleasure is only relief.

my favourite:
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The only possible ETHIC is to do what one wants to do.


oh and welcome :santa:
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