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...so are we officially 'at war'?
« on: March 19, 2011, 02:44:17 PM »
Reports from the Pentagon and also UK PM confirm that both US and UK Navy have fired 112 tomahawk missiles at military Libyan targets.   French air forces have been patrolling the skies over Libya and been firing at military targets also!

When 'action' like this is taken under a UN resolution is it still considered 'war'??
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Re: ...so are we officially 'at war'?
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2011, 02:54:15 PM »
Kind of. I hope that piece of shit in Libya gets what he deserves.  :viking:
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Re: ...so are we officially 'at war'?
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2011, 03:00:39 PM »
He should have left before now when he could have made some deal before it came to this. He will not win and will likely be killed in the fighting by an errant missile sent to take out a missile battery,. 
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Re: ...so are we officially 'at war'?
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2011, 03:01:42 PM »
Quote from: parts on March 19, 2011, 03:00:39 PM
He should have left before now when he could have made some deal before it came to this. He will not win and will likely be killed in the fighting by an errant missile sent to take out a missile battery,. 

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Re: ...so are we officially 'at war'?
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2011, 03:05:58 PM »
ge Daffyduck??  he is slightly deranged methinks

he said today 'it was unnecessary to ground his air force' and also  'the Libyan people were all with him'

*someone tell the nutter that they aren't...they have taken to the streets and you are in fact firing on them*
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I hope that piece of shit in Libya gets what he deserves.  
 I dunno if i got it right, but apparently this action is just to prevent genocide.  It is not seeking to overthrow ge Daffyduck and he will be given a chance to resume his dictatorship once UN is convinced the threat to the civillians in Libya has gone away!!!   ??  
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2011, 03:09:48 PM »
Officially, yes, but I hope the US, the UK or the French will have the guts to kill him "accidentally".  :angel:
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Re: ...so are we officially 'at war'?
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2011, 03:15:02 PM »
Quote from: TheoK on March 19, 2011, 03:09:48 PM
Officially, yes, but I hope the US, the UK or the French will have the guts to kill him "accidentally".  :angel:
:agreed:  i hope so too.  Doubtful he will ever change.  Seems a bit 'wishy washy' really to take this action,  but then give him another chance?


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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2011, 03:17:25 PM »
He had too many chances already. I remember when the US bombed Libya already in 1986, after Libyan agents blew up a disco in Berlin killing lots of civilan Germans and some American soldiers. Too bad they missed him then.
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Re: ...so are we officially 'at war'?
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2011, 03:27:14 PM »
Not sure.. but I think that UN/NAVO are reluctant/sceptical to make it a 'ground' war..

Well, who knows what the detailed outcome of this conflict will be?
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Re: ...so are we officially 'at war'?
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2011, 03:32:49 PM »
Quote from: bodaccea on March 19, 2011, 02:44:17 PM
Reports from the Pentagon and also UK PM confirm that both US and UK Navy have fired 112 tomahawk missiles at military Libyan targets.   French air forces have been patrolling the skies over Libya and been firing at military targets also!

When 'action' like this is taken under a UN resolution is it still considered 'war'??
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For legal reasons, formal declarations of war have been rare since the end of WWII, and this will probably be considered a police action.
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Re: ...so are we officially 'at war'?
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2011, 03:36:16 PM »
Quote from: Lutra on March 19, 2011, 03:27:14 PM
Not sure.. but I think that UN/NAVO are reluctant/sceptical to make it a 'ground' war..

Well, who knows what the detailed outcome of this conflict will be?
  As much as they say they will not send ground forces I am sure several countries already have special forces there Probably US UK and France at least
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Re: ...so are we officially 'at war'?
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2011, 03:51:31 PM »
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Yeah, most likely.

Plus I hope the Libyan 'resistance' will get stronger again and folks there get the fucker, the sooner the better..
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Re: ...so are we officially 'at war'?
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2011, 06:47:54 PM »
"war" is very ill-defined

afaik, the only _formal_ declaration of war, since ww2, was Chad vs Sudan some years ago. and if im not totally mistaken, morocco declared war on spain in the 90s, over some islet, but it was instantly annulled.

like peter said
its probably not "WAR" "per se", but rather... any handy synonym you can think of :D armed conflict, military intervention, etc
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Re: ...so are we officially 'at war'?
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2011, 06:48:50 PM »
Quote from: TheoK on March 19, 2011, 03:17:25 PM
He had too many chances already. I remember when the US bombed Libya already in 1986, after Libyan agents blew up a disco in Berlin killing lots of civilan Germans and some American soldiers. Too bad they missed him then.

wasnt libya/qadaffi also behind that bombed airplane over scotland was it?
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Re: ...so are we officially 'at war'?
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2011, 06:54:53 PM »
Quote from: ZEGH8578 on March 19, 2011, 06:48:50 PM
Quote from: TheoK on March 19, 2011, 03:17:25 PM
He had too many chances already. I remember when the US bombed Libya already in 1986, after Libyan agents blew up a disco in Berlin killing lots of civilan Germans and some American soldiers. Too bad they missed him then.

wasnt libya/qadaffi also behind that bombed airplane over scotland was it?

Lockerbie -  yeah it was.  also, the man convicted of this was freed by a scottish court a while back on humanitarian grounds he was dying of cancer with only weeks to live - but AFAIK he still alive!
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