wondering if people could be diagnosed wrong as aspergers

[matthe]

this is the free for all board, not as advocacy,

nothing wrong with posting about wanting spam and porn here imo

[SleepyDragon]

I guess it's the double edged sword of wanting more media attention for our cause. We get the good with the bad. I really don't like the mentioning of the criminals alleged ASD DX if it has nothing to do with the crime. There are good and bad people on the spectrum like there are that aren't on the spectrum.

Basically it comes down to the good old 'The Devil made me do it' defence. Except none of us want the Devil to be names Aspergers etc.

I think that Asperger's is underdiagnosed, if anything.

The "Apologising Sportsman" school of public-awareness campaigning brings us fresh insights into such things as bipolar disorder (Andrew Johns), ADHD (Willie Mason), alcoholism and womanising (far too many to list). I often wonder when some footy player is going to out himself as an Aspie and blame his misdeeds on that. One suspects, however, that there is not a great deal of overlap between the rugby-playing population and the Asperger's population.

Hey, maybe that's part of our problem! If you're good at sport, you can be forgiven for nearly any damn thing.

Now, back to our regularly-scheduled porn & spam....

[Phlexor]

What annoys me is these assholes that commit some crime, get caught, then get an aspergers dx before the trial or what have you.

[ProfessorFarnsworth]

What annoys me is these assholes that commit some crime, get caught, then get an aspergers dx before the trial or what have you.

But you will find also that, if the person's condition is leaked out to the press, even if it's not mention at all in a court case as being the cause to anything; the media will still spin it whatever way it sells. People love to believe that only abnormal people with something wrong with them do bad things, which is, of course, bullshit.

['andersom']

What annoys me is these assholes that commit some crime, get caught, then get an aspergers dx before the trial or what have you.

But you will find also that, if the person's condition is leaked out to the press, even if it's not mention at all in a court case as being the cause to anything; the media will still spin it whatever way it sells. People love to believe that only abnormal people with something wrong with them do bad things, which is, of course, bullshit.

Yes, as if they need the comfort of knowing that danger only comes from weirdoes (and foreigners).

That most crimes are done by 'normal' people is too scary a concept.

[TheoK]

In Sweden the media usually say that someone is "insane" when killing or trying to kill a cop, a politician or other official, even if he goes to prison. They can't admit that a "normal" person would do such a thing. 

[ProfessorFarnsworth]

Yes, as if they need the comfort of knowing that danger only comes from weirdoes (and foreigners).

That most crimes are done by 'normal' people is too scary a concept.

That's what I find so amusing. I've long known that humanity at it's core is still as savage as it was tens of thousands of years ago, and it only takes one motivation of sorts to reveal that truth.

People are only compelled to be civilized by laws, authority, forced ideology and/or religion, subtract all these factors, give people choice and ask yourself, would humanity as a whole be civilized without these elements forced on them? Could it behave civilized without needing law enforcement, moral rulebooks or some divine guidance looking down upon them?

The answer is simply, no.

Even if a small minority decide to be civilized, those people would not survive long from those who are uncivilized, unless, they themselves, resort to the same savage methods to protect their way of life.

[Phlexor]

It's as crazy as the media mentioning someones race or religion when that has nothing to do with the crime.

['andersom']

It's as crazy as the media mentioning someones race or religion when that has nothing to do with the crime.

Yeah, that would only make sense if they did it with every crime. So that we'd all know that there is no safe type of people.
But now they mention it 'randomly' and thus stigmatise.

I'm just trying to imagine an addition with facts added to every crimestory. With racial background to the fourth degree, religious background to the fourth degree, sexual interests, financial history from childhood on. And of course grades in school, and achievements at work.

Papers would become unreadable.

[matthe]

schizo is a way better defense than AS.

[Adam]

well to be fair a hell of a lot of criminals do have some fucked up heads

['andersom']

well to be fair a hell of a lot of criminals do have some fucked up heads

True, but that can be found within any neurotype, race, religion etc.

[punkdrew]

False positives are possible with any test. That's why second opinions are so important.

[El]

while i agree with you on the quoting out of context thing, this is a free speech forum, and people do far worse than going out of context, like editing others quotes, etc.

get used to people doing stuff that you think they shouldnt.

the good side of that is you can say anything we think you shouldnt.

Yeah, like this:

I'm extremely confused about what my diagnosis means about myself and the world around me, but I'd like someone to validate my erroneous notion that it somehow makes me a superior being to those who do not hold my diagnosis.

fixed.


 

[ProfessorFarnsworth]

Yeah, like this:

I'm extremely confused about what my diagnosis means about myself and the world around me, but I'd like someone to validate my erroneous notion that it somehow makes me a superior being to those who do not hold my diagnosis.

fixed.


 

Wait a minute, isn't that just highlighting the underlying truth of his post?