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TheoK

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England - even MORE cowardly than Ireland and Sweden!
« on: August 15, 2009, 01:08:50 PM »
Potassium chlorate was banned in English fireworks already in 1875(!) WTF?  :thumbdn:

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Re: England - even MORE cowardly than Ireland and Sweden!
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2009, 01:39:44 PM »
Sure on the date?  Not much in the way of things and chemicals were banned back then you could still get white phosphorous matches in the US
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Re: England - even MORE cowardly than Ireland and Sweden!
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2009, 01:47:21 PM »
I'm not 100% sure, but I know that guns were licensed already in 1903 in England, several decades before most of the rest of Europe, so yes, it's quite possible.  :grrr:

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Re: England - even MORE cowardly than Ireland and Sweden!
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2009, 03:01:49 PM »
But in England we're so brave that we don't give a shit about potassium chlorate in our fireworks  :shamone:

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Re: England - even MORE cowardly than Ireland and Sweden!
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2009, 12:56:14 AM »
If you knew anything about fireworks you'd know that chlorates are kind of the "staples" in pyrotechnics.

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Re: England - even MORE cowardly than Ireland and Sweden!
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2009, 01:02:50 AM »
That's why America has fireworks on the 4th of July.

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Re: England - even MORE cowardly than Ireland and Sweden!
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2009, 04:08:26 AM »
America is BRAVE! :arrr:

I'm reading a 1825 book from an American officer Cutbush. I see that potassium chlorate was called "hyperoxymuriate salt of potassa" back then. "Muriate" was the old name of chloride, so one extra oxygen atom would make it "oxymuriate" or subchlorate  (if that exists) with modern therminology and two "hyperoxymuriate". I don't know what these old guys would have called perchlorate. "Hyperdeutoxymuriate"?  :scratchhead:

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Re: England - even MORE cowardly than Ireland and Sweden!
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2009, 04:14:45 AM »
Oh, they had discovered it but they called it perchlorate like today and didn't see its potentials.  :-\

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Re: England - even MORE cowardly than Ireland and Sweden!
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2009, 04:42:12 AM »
dexter, good to see you
feix ma spellan. ai nide halp. coz i caent duet.

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Re: England - even MORE cowardly than Ireland and Sweden!
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2009, 07:44:48 AM »
If you knew anything about fireworks you'd know that chlorates are kind of the "staples" in pyrotechnics.

but I don't think I care

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Re: England - even MORE cowardly than Ireland and Sweden!
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2009, 08:05:54 AM »
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Re: England - even MORE cowardly than Ireland and Sweden!
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2009, 08:31:58 AM »
Talk to the Chinese about fireworks; afterall, they were the ones who invented them. As with gunpowder back in the 12th or 13th century.

Now THAT'S BRAVE

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Re: England - even MORE cowardly than Ireland and Sweden!
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2009, 08:44:10 AM »
KClO3 was invented by the French in 1788.

The cowardly firework law is English, however.

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Re: England - even MORE cowardly than Ireland and Sweden!
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2009, 09:00:59 AM »
KClO3 was invented by the French in 1788.

The cowardly firework law is English, however.

They must've invented it for the Revolution they had planned for the next year, considering the storming of the Bastille happened in 1789 and Marie Antoinette was beheaded not long after.

We in Australia used to celebrate Guy Fawkes Day on Nov 5 up until the 70s, when governments banned crackers and other fireworks for public sale. The only people allowed to operate fireworks are those professionals with permits at events.


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Re: England - even MORE cowardly than Ireland and Sweden!
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2009, 09:02:44 AM »
we had fireworks in the back garden last year