bad influence.

[QuirkyCarla]

Yes, but morality can sometimes be a tough concept to learn...especially since so many people have different morals.

[Nomaken]

A childs sense of morality is supposed to change gradually over time, but they do have a sort of understanding of morality as early as age 3(or younger, i dont remember exactly).  They might not understand the morality explicitly, but they will learn to associate certain behaviors as part of what certain parties consider good and right.  They can even learn different codes of morality at a very young age that are different with other children than their parents.

[McGiver]

parents, peers, school, work , and the media and politicians.

[QuirkyCarla]

True, but I remember when I was six years old most of the children didn't understand the particular concept that you shouldn't leave people out, hurt people's feelings, etc.

[Nomaken]

they may have not learned that from their parents, or they may have not been able to explicitly tell you they believed in those things.

[McGiver]

the youngest are the most vicious, probably theory of mind.  they do not understand the hurt they are causing, because they are not the ones who feel the hurt of exclusion.
my posistion is simple:
i do not want my child to become bitter with other people at such a young age because of the hurt.

i see growth in her and would hope that once she reaches an age where she is completely accountable for her actions then she would have learned how to deal with other people.  i do not want my daughters to resent each other.  they will always be family, but friends come and go.  my youngest may have resentful feelings now (she doesn't show it), but as she ages she will have seen enough of life to have learned compassion for what our position is on this matter, and i suspect, shwe will understand.  
so basically i am making a decision based upon long term psychological effects and weighing them between both of my children.  and, i believe, choosing the lesser of two evils.

[QuirkyCarla]

I could tell from their actions that they didn't understand. Hell, I didn't understand it either. I didn't invite my two best friends to my 7th birthday party because the rest of the class thought they were weird and didn't want to come if they went. ( ) Now I embrace having weird friends.

[QuirkyCarla]

the youngest are the most vicious, probably theory of mind.  they do not understand the hurt they are causing, because they are not the ones who feel the hurt of exclusion.
my posistion is simple:
i do not want my child to become bitter with other people at such a young age because of the hurt.

i see growth in her and would hope that once she reaches an age where she is completely accountable for her actions then she would have learned how to deal with other people.  i do not want my daughters to resent each other.  they will always be family, but friends come and go.  my youngest may have resentful feelings now (she doesn't show it), but as she ages she will have seen enough of life to have learned compassion for what our position is on this matter, and i suspect, shwe will understand. 
so basically i am making a decision based upon long term psychological effects and weighing them between both of my children.  and, i believe, choosing the lesser of two evils.

Quoted for truth. My sentiments exactly.

[odeon]

Sure, now you have control.  Today one 8 year old, but what are you going to do when she's up against the world?

You're going to have a hard time convincing your NT daughter she has to give up any friend that will exclude an aspie.  If your daughters are naturally bonded it might work.  Otherwise you may create a rift.

This particular neighbour girl wasn't particularly nice about what she did, as I understand it, so IMO, there's a difference. Also, when they're older, this kind of thing will probably not happen anyway. There will be far bigger problems.

[Peter]

They can even learn different codes of morality at a very young age that are different with other children than their parents.

Yeah, but my parents were quite insistent that setting fire to the other kids was wrong.

[Lucifer]

Yeah, but my parents were quite insistent that setting fire to the other kids was wrong.

bastards.  i hate that sort of repression.   

[le travesti angelique]

I hope that one day I'll gain superhuman powers so that I'll get my revenge against the fuckers from school.

And still do!

[Nomaken]

Screw super human powers.  All you need is total legal and diplomatic immunity.  And a shit load of sadism and creativity.  I'm partial to skin related tortures.